10 reasons why the UFC is better than boxing?

[The Mighty One]

10 reasons why the UFC is better than boxing

Eric Sloan




Boxing Examiner ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


July 8, 4:53 PM



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Number 10. The fans. The UFC has perhaps the most rabid fan base this side of NASCAR ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). The loyal, Affliction ([Only registered and activated users can see links])-clad army religiously shells out precious dough to watch the UFC's pay-per-view (PPV) broadcasts numerous times per year. As to demographics, the UFC targets a younger audience than boxing (18-24), which means that even if boxing isn't a dying sport (which it isn't), its fans are closer to reaching life expectancy than the UFC's base.

Number 9. Oscar De La Hoya. With the Golden Boy's ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) retirement this year, so goes the biggest draw in boxing. Say what you will about him, but his PPV numbers alone eclipsed the UFC. To make matters worse, he has also teamed up with the aforementioned Affliction to help promote, you guessed it, mixed martial arts. Up next, The Ring ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) hires Tito Ortiz ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) as its MMA writer?

Number 8. Reality television. UFC's The Ultimate Fighter ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a much bigger television ratings darling than The Contender ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) series, which has been kicked around from network to network more often than Michael Buffer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has said "let's get ready to rumble."

Number 7. Senator John McCain. McCain ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), an avid boxing fan, once described the UFC as a "human cockfight ([Only registered and activated users can see links])." Back in the day, it may well have been an adequate description for a fighting sport without weight classes, judges, and sparse rules. The sport, however, has had to change its ways to comply with state athletic commissions, which is to say that the brutality is nowhere near what it used to be. The anticipation of violence is still a major factor in the UFC's appeal given that keys to victory include joint manipulation, "ground and pound," and choke holds.

Number 6. The events. It is rare today to find a boxing broadcast with more than a few televised undercard fights, which means that networks like HBO ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Showtime ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) tell boxing fans which fighters are important. UFC 100 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on Saturday will give home viewers bigger bang for the buck by televising at least 5 bouts. Additionally, to maintain its popularity under a PPV business plan, the UFC has to make the best fight possible. By comparison, boxing fans had to fork over a good chunk of change to watch Bob Arum's PPV joke last February that "co-featured" Kelly Pavlik ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Miguel Cotto ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

Number 5. The "minor league." If your state has an athletic commission, go check the website and the upcoming fight schedule. My guess is that mixed martial arts has at least a 5 to 1 advantage over local boxing events.

Number 4. The weight divisions. The UFC has 5 of them, boxing has 17.

Number 3. The champions. See No. 4 above. The UFC has 5 champions. Boxing has the potential to have 68 universally recognized title holders--4 per division (see also Mikkel Kessler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Lucian Bute ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Carl Froch ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and Karoly Balzsay ([Only registered and activated users can see links])).

Number 2. Royce Gracie. No matter how you try to slice it, Gracie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is the all time pound-for-pound champion of the UFC. His Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) style laid the foundation for what the sport has become today and, with the ongoing efforts of countless Gracie family members, will be tomorrow.

Number 1. Dana White. Love him or hate him, Dana White ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is passionate about and insanely protective of his brand. When it comes to the mixed martial arts, it is all about White and his UFC. He invites all comers to try to arm bar him out of his market share, but the competition has either submitted or is simply waiting to tap out. He hosts UFC 100 on Saturday night, which will likely break his pay-per-view buy record. Part businessman, part showman--White consistently gives his audience what they want. He's even man enough to apologize ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on those rare occasions when his broadcasts come up short.

[doubleplaidinum]

i see what you're saying, but fuck you. :good

[Jorodz]

umm...ok. well written post and all but just wait for the shitstorm.

[catasyou]

Fuck UFC.

[Jorodz]

i see what you're saying, but fuck you. :good

:lol:and so it begins

and i'm seconding the fuck you:deal

[catasyou]

Also fuck his mother.

[doubleplaidinum]

:lol:and so it begins

and i'm seconding the fuck you:deal

this is a boxing forum. i don't want to see the acronym UFC anywhere near this shit. i'm a fan of UFC to a very limited extent, but it ain't shit compared to boxing when you understand both.

[Jorodz]

haha, yeah dude this thread is just asking for shit. this is a boxing forum. we can appreciate and like ufc to but to post THAT list here is just looking for abuse

[doubleplaidinum]

haha, yeah dude this thread is just asking for shit. this is a boxing forum. we can appreciate and like ufc to but to post THAT list here is just looking for abuse

yup!

[catasyou]

Also fuck his sister.

[DemolitionDan]

UFC sucks....look at the bottom of the page at the comments this Jim guy pretty much responds to all of the points that UFC is better than Boxing. UFC can't touch Boxing and never will.

[Jai C]

Why are you here? Take the 10 reasons turn them sideways and shove them up your candy @#%.

[Ringnut]

10 reasons why the UFC is better than boxing

Eric Sloan




Boxing Examiner ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


July 8, 4:53 PM



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Number 10. The fans. The UFC has perhaps the most rabid fan base this side of NASCAR ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). The loyal, Affliction ([Only registered and activated users can see links])-clad army religiously shells out precious dough to watch the UFC's pay-per-view (PPV) broadcasts numerous times per year. As to demographics, the UFC targets a younger audience than boxing (18-24), which means that even if boxing isn't a dying sport (which it isn't), its fans are closer to reaching life expectancy than the UFC's base.

Number 9. Oscar De La Hoya. With the Golden Boy's ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) retirement this year, so goes the biggest draw in boxing. Say what you will about him, but his PPV numbers alone eclipsed the UFC. To make matters worse, he has also teamed up with the aforementioned Affliction to help promote, you guessed it, mixed martial arts. Up next, The Ring ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) hires Tito Ortiz ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) as its MMA writer?

Number 8. Reality television. UFC's The Ultimate Fighter ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a much bigger television ratings darling than The Contender ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) series, which has been kicked around from network to network more often than Michael Buffer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has said "let's get ready to rumble."

Number 7. Senator John McCain. McCain ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), an avid boxing fan, once described the UFC as a "human cockfight ([Only registered and activated users can see links])." Back in the day, it may well have been an adequate description for a fighting sport without weight classes, judges, and sparse rules. The sport, however, has had to change its ways to comply with state athletic commissions, which is to say that the brutality is nowhere near what it used to be. The anticipation of violence is still a major factor in the UFC's appeal given that keys to victory include joint manipulation, "ground and pound," and choke holds.

Number 6. The events. It is rare today to find a boxing broadcast with more than a few televised undercard fights, which means that networks like HBO ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Showtime ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) tell boxing fans which fighters are important. UFC 100 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on Saturday will give home viewers bigger bang for the buck by televising at least 5 bouts. Additionally, to maintain its popularity under a PPV business plan, the UFC has to make the best fight possible. By comparison, boxing fans had to fork over a good chunk of change to watch Bob Arum's PPV joke last February that "co-featured" Kelly Pavlik ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Miguel Cotto ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

Number 5. The "minor league." If your state has an athletic commission, go check the website and the upcoming fight schedule. My guess is that mixed martial arts has at least a 5 to 1 advantage over local boxing events.

Number 4. The weight divisions. The UFC has 5 of them, boxing has 17.

Number 3. The champions. See No. 4 above. The UFC has 5 champions. Boxing has the potential to have 68 universally recognized title holders--4 per division (see also Mikkel Kessler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Lucian Bute ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Carl Froch ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and Karoly Balzsay ([Only registered and activated users can see links])).

Number 2. Royce Gracie. No matter how you try to slice it, Gracie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is the all time pound-for-pound champion of the UFC. His Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) style laid the foundation for what the sport has become today and, with the ongoing efforts of countless Gracie family members, will be tomorrow.

Number 1. Dana White. Love him or hate him, Dana White ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is passionate about and insanely protective of his brand. When it comes to the mixed martial arts, it is all about White and his UFC. He invites all comers to try to arm bar him out of his market share, but the competition has either submitted or is simply waiting to tap out. He hosts UFC 100 on Saturday night, which will likely break his pay-per-view buy record. Part businessman, part showman--White consistently gives his audience what they want. He's even man enough to apologize ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on those rare occasions when his broadcasts come up short.

10. Sure, in the US. But what about other countries? IMO boxing still has a more global appeal

9. Seriously, name a UFC fighter who's a bigger draw than Pacquiao?

8. While true, this is mostly a testament to how tightly and well managed UFC is. No argument there.

7.Seriously? You mean the guy who lost the election and picked that idiot of a vice presidential candidate?

6. Again, UFC is very well managed and has a good model.

5. I'm not from the US so this doesn't really apply to me

6. Well at least boxing gives the small guys a chance to compete. UFC favors big, heavy guys only. I mean, isn't their lightweight @147 or something?

3. Yes, this is definitely the problem in boxing. But, politics and more than 100 years of history has a tendency to do that to a sport.

2. I don't get this. Ok, so Gracie had a big impact on UFC, why does that make UFC better than boxing? :huh

1. Again, yes, we get it, UFC is well managed.


In the end, the best thing UFC has going for it is a better business model. Other than that, this doesn't really make a convincing argument.

This whole argument of UFC vs Boxing is pretty silly anyway, they're two different things and it's all down to personal choice. I watch UFC every now and then, but I still prefer boxing.

[jimmie]

This is like saying Nascar is better then IRL Racing 2 racing sports but totally different. Boxing and MMA are combat sports but totally different you dont see wrestling,jiujitsu or kicks in boxing and you dont see the kind of skill and fluid striking in MMA that you see in a boxing ring. Both kick ass and stop with the UFC thing UFC doesnt own MMA theres alot of other orginazations that put on great fights Affliction,Strikeforce,Dream hell I think WEC is the most exicting show out there.

[zarman]

10 reasons tennis is better than UFC....... ill leave if for an MMA website just like you should.

[zarman]

ps. fuck your cousin

[chimba]

I stopped reading at no. 10. The fans:lol:

[catasyou]

fuck your cousin's sister.

[SouthpawSlayer]

only in america is it more poplar try mention mma in europe and its nothing compared to boxing

[The Mighty One]

fuck your cousin's sister.

Wouldn't that make her a cousin too?

[Vitor Belfort]

ok the ultimate fighter and the number of champions are better than boxing i would agree. I rather have one champion for the weight class than 4. That's about it.

UFC while famous around the world is only base in USA while boxing is all over the world. UFC ranking really suck when you have the same fighters getting title shots. I mean how many times have gsp-penn and others had a shot at the title while other fighters who have been winning 3-4-5 fights in a row still gotten no shot.

Brock freaking Lesnar got a title shot after one win in the ufc. 1 freaking win. Lesnar ufc record is 2-1.Anderson Silva also got a title shot after one win. While Thiago Alves have won 7 fights in a row before finally getting a title shot.

[iceman71]

by the way....i dont think this, but saw this and figured i would let you guys read it..i am obviously a big boxing fan since the 80s

Number 10. The fans. The UFC has perhaps the most rabid fan base this side of NASCAR ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). The loyal, Affliction ([Only registered and activated users can see links])-clad army religiously shells out precious dough to watch the UFC's pay-per-view (PPV) broadcasts numerous times per year. As to demographics, the UFC targets a younger audience than boxing (18-24), which means that even if boxing isn't a dying sport (which it isn't), its fans are closer to reaching life expectancy than the UFC's base.
Number 9. Oscar De La Hoya. With the Golden Boy's ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) retirement this year, so goes the biggest draw in boxing. Say what you will about him, but his PPV numbers alone eclipsed the UFC. To make matters worse, he has also teamed up with the aforementioned Affliction to help promote, you guessed it, mixed martial arts. Up next, The Ring ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) hires Tito Ortiz ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) as its MMA writer?
Number 8. Reality television. UFC's The Ultimate Fighter ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a much bigger television ratings darling than The Contender ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) series, which has been kicked around from network to network more often than Michael Buffer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has said "let's get ready to rumble."
Number 7. Senator John McCain. McCain ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), an avid boxing fan, once described the UFC as a "human cockfight ([Only registered and activated users can see links])." Back in the day, it may well have been an adequate description for a fighting sport without weight classes, judges, and sparse rules. The sport, however, has had to change its ways to comply with state athletic commissions, which is to say that the brutality is nowhere near what it used to be. The anticipation of violence is still a major factor in the UFC's appeal given that keys to victory include joint manipulation, "ground and pound," and choke holds.
Number 6. The events. It is rare today to find a boxing broadcast with more than a few televised undercard fights, which means that networks like HBO ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Showtime ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) tell boxing fans which fighters are important. UFC 100 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on Saturday will give home viewers bigger bang for the buck by televising at least 5 bouts. Additionally, to maintain its popularity under a PPV business plan, the UFC has to make the best fight possible. By comparison, boxing fans had to fork over a good chunk of change to watch Bob Arum's PPV joke last February that "co-featured" Kelly Pavlik ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Miguel Cotto ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).
Number 5. The "minor league." If your state has an athletic commission, go check the website and the upcoming fight schedule. My guess is that mixed martial arts has at least a 5 to 1 advantage over local boxing events.
Number 4. The weight divisions. The UFC has 5 of them, boxing has 17.
Number 3. The champions. See No. 4 above. The UFC has 5 champions. Boxing has the potential to have 68 universally recognized title holders--4 per division (see also Mikkel Kessler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Lucian Bute ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Carl Froch ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and Karoly Balzsay ([Only registered and activated users can see links])).
Number 2. Royce Gracie. No matter how you try to slice it, Gracie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is the all time pound-for-pound champion of the UFC. His Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) style laid the foundation for what the sport has become today and, with the ongoing efforts of countless Gracie family members, will be tomorrow.
Number 1. Dana White. Love him or hate him, Dana White ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is passionate about and insanely protective of his brand. When it comes to the mixed martial arts, it is all about White and his UFC. He invites all comers to try to arm bar him out of his market share, but the competition has either submitted or is simply waiting to tap out. He hosts UFC 100 on Saturday night, which will likely break his pay-per-view buy record. Part businessman, part showman--White consistently gives his audience what they want. He's even man enough to apologize ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on those rare occasions when his broadcasts come up short.


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[Losfer_Words]

Lol. I can't stand the UFC but they've got their promotion model spot on, IMO. Boxing fans don't have anything they can all relate to in the way that the UFC does for MMA.

[evalistinho]

Proof MMA fighters have glass jaws by Rico Spadafora :D

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[Blacc Jesus]

:lol:

[catasyou]

Mercer KO 9 seconds Sylvia.

That is all.

[Wilhelm]

It's clear who the champs are and the best fight the best way more frequently than in boxing.

The rest of that list is taste, nothing more.

[thewoo]

A lot of that shit is true. Those are all things about UFC that are better than boxing. Doesn't make it a better sport.

Can't be better when half the time is spent on the ground dry humping.

[H .]

ufc vs. boxing continues...

[ishy]

Dana White at no.1? GTFO with that shit!

[Dark Sider]

Dana White at no.1? GTFO with that shit!


Exactly...Dana is just a money grubbing whore...he was never a fighter and this is like having Bob Arum or Don King at #1 for why boxing is great.

[RafaelGonzal]

big white guys on steroids hugging and and kOing each other with weekend warrior skills.
There are a few premier fighters like Fedor and Mashita but then a bunch of wrestlers and tough guys. Seem to appeal to the idiot and brute in all of us. Dana White gets paid everyone else gets exploited and 1 or two guys make decent cash. For me boxing is superior and a sport of greater beauty. MMA seems to have that working class brute appeal. The dumming down of combat.

[evalistinho]

The same Dana White that pays his fighters chump change is what makes it better than boxing?

[nezy37]

A lot of that shit is true. Those are all things about UFC that are better than boxing. Doesn't make it a better sport.

Can't be better when half the time is spent on the ground dry humping.

Thats pretty much it.

too much of it is on the ground and only a few fighters really know what to do when the get there wich leads to alot of dry humping.

[preciseI247]

Fuck it I'm bored:

Number 10. The fans. The UFC has perhaps the most rabid fan base this side of NASCAR ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). The loyal, Affliction ([Only registered and activated users can see links])-clad army religiously shells out precious dough to watch the UFC's pay-per-view (PPV) broadcasts numerous times per year. As to demographics, the UFC targets a younger audience than boxing (18-24), which means that even if boxing isn't a dying sport (which it isn't), its fans are closer to reaching life expectancy than the UFC's base.


This totally discounts the Mexican and puerto rican boxing fans who are even more rabid than there young american counterparts and are raised with boxing at a young age. Boxing is also much bigger in the UK and probablly Europe as a whole.


Number 9. Oscar De La Hoya. With the Golden Boy's ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) retirement this year, so goes the biggest draw in boxing. Say what you will about him, but his PPV numbers alone eclipsed the UFC. To make matters worse, he has also teamed up with the aforementioned Affliction to help promote, you guessed it, mixed martial arts. Up next, The Ring ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) hires Tito Ortiz ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) as its MMA writer?

Okay sure De la Hoya's retirement is a decent point but I wouldn't call it a permanent stumbling block, he's not the only fighter in history to have great drawing power. if a Tyson like figure emerged today in the age of youtube and 24 hour sports TV it would be insane.

Number 8. Reality television. UFC's The Ultimate Fighter ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is a much bigger television ratings darling than The Contender ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) series, which has been kicked around from network to network more often than Michael Buffer ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has said "let's get ready to rumble."

The Ultimate fighter was huge for the UFC no doubt but it really propelled it to where it is now and hasn't really taken it THAT much farther, I feel like it's plateud(sp?). But this season's is supposed to have kimbo slice so that will help.


Number 7. Senator John McCain. McCain ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), an avid boxing fan, once described the UFC as a "human cockfight ([Only registered and activated users can see links])." Back in the day, it may well have been an adequate description for a fighting sport without weight classes, judges, and sparse rules. The sport, however, has had to change its ways to comply with state athletic commissions, which is to say that the brutality is nowhere near what it used to be. The anticipation of violence is still a major factor in the UFC's appeal given that keys to victory include joint manipulation, "ground and pound," and choke holds.

Again this is a weak point. All this says is that it went from a very niche sport to something comparable with boxing, there's no advantage here.

Number 6. The events. It is rare today to find a boxing broadcast with more than a few televised undercard fights, which means that networks like HBO ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Showtime ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) tell boxing fans which fighters are important. UFC 100 ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on Saturday will give home viewers bigger bang for the buck by televising at least 5 bouts. Additionally, to maintain its popularity under a PPV business plan, the UFC has to make the best fight possible. By comparison, boxing fans had to fork over a good chunk of change to watch Bob Arum's PPV joke last February that "co-featured" Kelly Pavlik ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Miguel Cotto ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

Great point and pretty undeniable. The UFC stacks there cards.


Number 5. The "minor league." If your state has an athletic commission, go check the website and the upcoming fight schedule. My guess is that mixed martial arts has at least a 5 to 1 advantage over local boxing events.

I don't know enough to comment.
Number 4. The weight divisions. The UFC has 5 of them, boxing has 17.

Yup another advantage-HOWEVER- what i have noticed as a fan of both sports is that with only 5 weight classes some UFC fighters find themselves in LIMBO like say wanderlei silva who is too small for 205 and will probablly have a hard time cutting down to 185. The 15-20 pounds between weightclasses leaves very little wiggle room.

Number 3. The champions. See No. 4 above. The UFC has 5 champions. Boxing has the potential to have 68 universally recognized title holders--4 per division (see also Mikkel Kessler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Lucian Bute ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Carl Froch ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and Karoly Balzsay ([Only registered and activated users can see links])).

This is tied to the previous point but it's a good one too many sanctioning bodies. One champ at 147 in boxing for instance would be HUGE. However a point the boxing guy can make is that it's very hard for their champs to hold on to their belts longer than 3 fights because of MMA's unpredictable nature.

Number 2. Royce Gracie. No matter how you try to slice it, Gracie ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is the all time pound-for-pound champion of the UFC. His Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) style laid the foundation for what the sport has become today and, with the ongoing efforts of countless Gracie family members, will be tomorrow.

This isn't even a point it's just a fighter's bio.

Number 1. Dana White. Love him or hate him, Dana White ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is passionate about and insanely protective of his brand. When it comes to the mixed martial arts, it is all about White and his UFC. He invites all comers to try to arm bar him out of his market share, but the competition has either submitted or is simply waiting to tap out. He hosts UFC 100 on Saturday night, which will likely break his pay-per-view buy record. Part businessman, part showman--White consistently gives his Eh. This is also kind of weak. But I will say that Zuffa-one orginization owning the entire UFC- is huge. If one orginization ran boxing there would be virtually no cherrypicking as the fan interest would drive matchmaking, the owners would scramble to put together whatever fights the fans would pay for. THAT is the UFC's biggest advantageaudience what they want. He's even man enough to apologize ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on those rare occasions when his broadcasts come up short.

Eh. This is also kind of weak. But I will say that Zuffa-one orginization owning the entire UFC- is huge. If one orginization ran boxing there would be virtually no cherrypicking as the fan interest would drive matchmaking, the owners would scramble to put together whatever fights the fans would pay for. THAT is the UFC's biggest advantage.

[bronx]

thats why a 50 yo boxer Ray Mercer just beat one of the best HW MMA fighters in the world Tim Sylva who is still young, right?:patsch

Boxing by KO all week and twice on Sunday:deal

[cdnboxing]

Oh boy, im not sure if this was a joke or a serious piece. But here we go.

10. The UFC actually has a terrible fanbase. Its nothing more than a mainstream, bandwagon jumping fanbase who wear tapout, affliction and sport mohawks and tribal tattoos. Its probably the worst part of the sport. These fans will find something better to do in a couple years because they arent real fans.

9. Oscar De La Hoya: Is retired, but Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley and many, many other fighters are popular NOT JUST IN THE STATES but across the globe. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT ABOUT THE UFC who's fighters appeal solely to a North American audience.

8. Reality Television: Is he really taking credit for having a reality television show? Reality television is arguably the worst part of our society and is solely responsible for manufacturing the dumbest people on the planet. The fact that boxing chooses not to go the TUF route and bring in crappy fighters who piss in food and destroy houses earns my respect. TUF is not about talent, its about ratings.

7. What?

6. You know what else is rare? Boxing PPV's. This year there has been one HBO PPV featuring the best P4P fighter on the planet fighting the best JWW in the world in Hatton. Pavlik-Cotto PPV was a joke, but nowhere near as much of a joke as the UFC having ridiculous PPV cards where the main event consists of fighters like Franklin/Hendo, Franklin/Wand, Bisping/Evans, Jardine/Rampage and those PPV's are $50. On an HBO or showtime card you're going to get 2-3 solid fights ie. HBO after dark. UFC is going to feature a main card featuring 5 fights, but maybe 3 of those are actually appealing. Not to mention, boxing simply has longer fights.

5. Who cares. And that is completely wrong.

4. Is UFC all of MMA? I think he forgot the numerous divisions below lightweight. You know, the divisions in which Brown and Torres fight in.

3. Is UFC all of MMA? Affliction have champions, Strikeforce have champions, Dream has champions. And the best fighter in the sport doesnt even fight in the UFC.

2. What? God, im sick of Gracie. Who cares.

1. Dana White has done a great job selling MMA to NORTH AMERICA. Hes failed to sell it outside of it. Because the bottom line is very few people care about the UFC outside of NA. Dana White is the primary reason why so many people think MMA is a joke. The fact that he has to apologize is embarassing. You know why? Because boxing doesnt have joke main events where one fighter refuses to fight. You can call some boxers boring, but at least they come to fight and arent afraid to get hit. Leites was afraid to get hit and Silva didnt want to fight. And even if it was boring, no promoter should apologize because they dont fight, the fighters do and the objective is to win which Silva did. This just proves MMA is not a SPORT but rather a spectacle.

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

Fuck the UFC, bunch of goons rolling around on the ground hugging each other, like queers, half those fights are fixed, id rather watch 70's porn..
Dana WHITE, a cheesy crook, it's only a matter of time before he cheats 1 of his roided goons and gets his pencil neck snapped...

[castle]

that was MMA fighters testing the difference get a decent boxer to strike with both gloves and there will be a big difference between the gloves
Proof MMA fighters have glass jaws by Rico Spadafora :D

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[preciseI247]

Mercer KO 9 seconds Sylvia.

That is all.



Okay let me help you cats understand this shit.

Boxing is a martial art. Just like jiu jitsu or fucking karate. It's a style of fighting. It's called Mixed Martial Arts because you can go in there and use whatever style or combination of styles you wanted. If Mayweather went in there using one Martial art(boxing) his opponent would try to manipulate the fight to take advantage of where the style is weak(taking it to the ground).


Tim sylvia's dumb ass tried to knock out with punches what is essentially a black belt in boxing- ray mercer. It would be as if I tried to choke out royce gracie or slam an olympic wresltler. It's not going to fucking happen. But to bash these dudes because they are not world class at ONE of Hundreds of Martial arts is fucking retarded. IF we were watching a jiu-jitsu tournament you wouldn't hear this crap but because they mix in striking suddenly they're shit.

Let me put you up on something.

These dudes can kill you in 30 seconds. Yes everyperson in this thread. A brown belt in jiu-jitsu is a fucking nightmare in the street because if you let him get a hold on you he could take your life extremely easily and you would have the same chance as a small child would of fighting him off.


We love our martial art and no none of them can do what world class boxers can but respect them for being A minuses and B pluses in a multitude of disciplines because it's just as impressive.

[vonBanditos]

The title is wrong, it should be "10 reasons why UFC is more successful than boxing today" because I might agree with that. We could learn a lot from their promotion and structure.

I'll never say that UFC/MMA is better. That's just my opinion, though.

[DemolitionDan]

UFC is a boring horrible unpopular sport. That's like saying Hockey is better than Soccer. Boxing is much much much more popular nobody watches that UFC crap besides a bunch of white trash and people that like two guys dry humping each other on the ground. Boxing is a much tougher sport just ask Ray Mercer. A Boxer could easily become champ in UFC while a UFC guy couldn't even crack the top 50 in Boxing.

[superchile]

the only thing i agreed its they do stack up their ppvs whit a lots of fights but on the down side a lot of them are boring too much huggin

[Bazooka]

Boxing is a more skilled sport than UFC which in my opinion Skills mean more to me. for example in a football game if your on the 20 yard line you dont get the ball and run backwards because that in zone is closest I mean what kind of sense does that make?

thats the way I see UFC, in Boxing you have a legal scoring area and two fist to score and defend with meaning conditioning and skill are a must to have success.
in UFC if you cant hold your own standing up, you can switch it up into a school yard brawl in which two men sweat on each other laying on the floor for nearly an entire 5 min round.

The only thing that makes UFC exciting is when you see a man get nailed with a clean shot flush and his reaction to being hit with a four ounce glove. other than that there isnt nothing to UFC.

I hate the idea that someone can call that shit skill, IMO its not a skill to take a man to the ground and beat him down, people have been doing that already in everyday life for years and years lots of times it happens at school while they are growing up.

The idea of some fights being waved off as soon as one man drops the other kind of kills it as well, what good is it to be called a fighter if your not given the opportunity to face adversity and over come it? A standing 8 count should be applied cus alot of those fights stop way too early.

Bottom line, UFC sucks balls, there are few fights I will watch, with Boxing I am on that 24/7 its simple, I like to see Skills, any fool can choke someone thats nothing to be proud of and shouldnt be anything we give credit for.

[preciseI247]

UFC is a boring horrible unpopular sport. That's like saying Hockey is better than Soccer. Boxing is much much much more popular nobody watches that UFC crap besides a bunch of white trash and people that like two guys dry humping each other on the ground. Boxing is a much tough sport just as Ray Mercer. A Boxer could easily become champ in UFC while a UFC guy couldn't even crack the top 50 in Boxing.

So you can't be a fucking intelligent person or your BIAS and ignorance is that fucking enormous.


Tell me how a boxer would become a UFC champ genious? With no wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or grappling backround WLadimir klitschko gets his arm torn off. Sure he'd catch an idiot who decided to stand more than 10 seconds of the fight but that'd be it.


None of you could have ever wrestled because if you had you'd know how fucking easy it is to take a person down who has no idea how to stop it. It'd literrally happen every minute. And what advantage would your champion boxer have then? He can't defend a choke, or an arm bar. He couldn't even stop the dude from just sitting on top of him and pounding his face in.


Take a second, think about it, and lose the fucking Bias.

Or explain to me in Detail how a boxing champ becomes a UFC belt holder and witness your own stupidity.

[preciseI247]

Boxing is a more skilled sport than UFC which in my opinion Skills mean more to me. for example in a football game if your on the 20 yard line you dont get the ball and run backwards because that in zone is closest I mean what kind of sense does that make?

thats the way I see UFC, in Boxing you have a legal scoring area and two fist to score and defend with meaning conditioning and skill are a must to have success.
in UFC if you cant hold your own standing up, you can switch it up into a school yard brawl in which two men sweat on each other laying on the floor for nearly an entire 5 min round.

The only thing that makes UFC exciting is when you see a man get nailed with a clean shot flush and his reaction to being hit with a four ounce glove. other than that there isnt nothing to UFC.

I hate the idea that someone can call that shit skill, IMO its not a skill to take a man to the ground and beat him down, people have been doing that already in everyday life for years and years lots of times it happens at school while they are growing up.

The idea of some fights being waved off as soon as one man drops the other kind of kills it as well, what good is it to be called a fighter if your not given the opportunity to face adversity and over come it? A standing 8 count should be applied cus alot of those fights stop way too early.

Bottom line, UFC sucks balls, there are few fights I will watch, with Boxing I am on that 24/7 its simple, I like to see Skills, any fool can choke someone thats nothing to be proud of and shouldnt be anything we give credit for.


Wow no idea why I'm responding to your dumb ass but I will only say this.

To simply say it takes no skill to just "choke somebody out" or that they just "sweat laying on top of each other" is like an MMA guy saying it takes no skill to just stand in front of each other and throw punches. You simplifying it like a 14 year old makes you look idiotic.

By you saying that its also like saying that Jiu-Jitsu black belts and Olympic wrestlers have no skill. Would you agree with that statement?

I have no problem with you preferring boxing. I also prefer boxing. But to say the other martial arts being displayed are nothing in comparison is pretty stupid.

[DemolitionDan]

So you can't be a fucking intelligent person or your BIAS and ignorance is that fucking enormous.


Tell me how a boxer would become a UFC champ genious? With no wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or grappling backround WLadimir klitschko gets his arm torn off. Sure he'd catch an idiot who decided to stand more than 10 seconds of the fight but that'd be it.


None of you could have ever wrestled because if you had you'd know how fucking easy it is to take a person down who has no idea how to stop it. It'd literrally happen every minute. And what advantage would your champion boxer have then? He can't defend a choke, or an arm bar. He couldn't even stop the dude from just sitting on top of him and pounding his face in.


Take a second, think about it, and lose the fucking Bias.

Or explain to me in Detail how a boxing champ becomes a UFC belt holder and witness your own stupidity.

A fat overweight, over the hill, Ray Mercer did it...why can't anybody else be able to do it?

Sure those people train in all kinds of different Martial Arts, but I've seen a couple of UFC cards (waste of my time) and it's very rare that somebody comes up with some jiu-jitsu and all that other nonsense. It's basically a bunch of fat dudes who hug each other (or as you say "grapple" or "wrestle") and have glass jaws and horrible boxing skills.

[preciseI247]

A fat overweight, over the hill, Ray Mercer did it...why can't anybody else be able to do it?

Sure those people train in all kinds of different Martial Arts, but I've seen a couple of UFC cards (waste of my time) and it's very rare that somebody comes up with some jiu-jitsu and all that other nonsense. It's basically a bunch of fat dudes who hug each other (or as you say "grapple" or "wrestle") and have glass jaws and horrible boxing skills.


You have no idea what you are talking about. That's why you think that this is even a respectable response because you are literally clueless.

Ray mercer and Tim sylvia agreed to stand and throw punches. It was originally a boxing match but couldn't be sanctioned so they switched it to MMA and agreed to only throw punches. Which makes it in effect a boxing match. SO yes Ray mercer is a better boxer, so much better in fact that he knocked him out in 10 seconds. I already explained why someone who is essentially a black belt in boxing should win a boxing match but maybe you couldn't understand that.


2. I'd at least a third of these fights end by submission. That's called jiu-jitsu but you don't seem to grasp that shit either.

3. The UFC's current undisputed champs are BJ penn, Georges st. pierre, Anderson Silva and Lyoto machida. Google them and show me one who is fat. In fact, show me a top 5 fighter who looks nearly as bad as former HW champ James Toney or Mr. Chris Arreola. See how fucking dangerous ignorance is?

4. The small gloves have an impact on the whole glass jaw thing. Dumb UFC fans clown boxing because they say they fight with pillows it's the same thing in reverse. It's easier to knock someone out with less padding, and yes their boxing is inferior I already explained that. But please take into account it's also modified to defend kicks, knees, and take downs. But of course you'll just respond with more dumb assnes so I don't expect you to absorb any of this.

[UFgators]

MMA fans are mostly roid taking idiots who have no appreciation for MMAs so called skills. Theres a few who actually know what they're talking about but the majority only care about big KOs. Go to a bar for the UFC on Saturday and see if theres intelligent discussion or if the fans actually care about the "amazing MMA skills".

Another thing about MMA is that every match I've seen(roommates watch it a lot) involves 20 submission attempts that the commentators and fans say "theres no way he gets out of this one its over" followed by the guy getting out in 2 seconds. I understand it takes skills but everyone acts like these moves are impossible to react to.

[The Guvnor]

I don't understand why the UFC is seen as the way Boxing should be run when they can't even get the world's best fighter (Fedor) on board. Would be like Golden Boy being recognised as the leading brand in boxing who's ranking sat best with most fans and therefore because Pacquiao would be fighting for a lesser brand (Top Rank), he wouldn't be able to sway the opinion of the hardcore fanbase of Goldenboy who didn't follow his progress. I could explain that better given time but the point is there.

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

UFC== White trash sport, just like nascar:deal bunch of goons dry humping on the ground, boring as fuck...
Boxing requires more skill endurance, and the best boxers would beat the shit out of a UFC GOON..

[cdnboxing]

Proof MMA fighters have glass jaws by Rico Spadafora :D

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HAHA good post. If I hear another "pillow reference" or MMA'ers get KO'd so much because of the lighter gloves im going to break something.

Ridiculously stupid that they think a difference of 4oz would be the difference between someone getting KO'd or not.

[cdnboxing]

So you can't be a fucking intelligent person or your BIAS and ignorance is that fucking enormous.


Tell me how a boxer would become a UFC champ genious? With no wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or grappling backround WLadimir klitschko gets his arm torn off. Sure he'd catch an idiot who decided to stand more than 10 seconds of the fight but that'd be it.


None of you could have ever wrestled because if you had you'd know how fucking easy it is to take a person down who has no idea how to stop it. It'd literrally happen every minute. And what advantage would your champion boxer have then? He can't defend a choke, or an arm bar. He couldn't even stop the dude from just sitting on top of him and pounding his face in.


Take a second, think about it, and lose the fucking Bias.

Or explain to me in Detail how a boxing champ becomes a UFC belt holder and witness your own stupidity.

Crocop, Overeem with no grappling background seemed to do just fine in MMA. In fact didnt Crocop beat Josh Barnett whos the #2 MMA HW in the world right now?

[cdnboxing]

You have no idea what you are talking about. That's why you think that this is even a respectable response because you are literally clueless.

Ray mercer and Tim sylvia agreed to stand and throw punches. It was originally a boxing match but couldn't be sanctioned so they switched it to MMA and agreed to only throw punches. Which makes it in effect a boxing match. SO yes Ray mercer is a better boxer, so much better in fact that he knocked him out in 10 seconds. I already explained why someone who is essentially a black belt in boxing should win a boxing match but maybe you couldn't understand that.


2. I'd at least a third of these fights end by submission. That's called jiu-jitsu but you don't seem to grasp that shit either.

3. The UFC's current undisputed champs are BJ penn, Georges st. pierre, Anderson Silva and Lyoto machida. Google them and show me one who is fat. In fact, show me a top 5 fighter who looks nearly as bad as former HW champ James Toney or Mr. Chris Arreola. See how fucking dangerous ignorance is?

4. The small gloves have an impact on the whole glass jaw thing. Dumb UFC fans clown boxing because they say they fight with pillows it's the same thing in reverse. It's easier to knock someone out with less padding, and yes their boxing is inferior I already explained that. But please take into account it's also modified to defend kicks, knees, and take downs. But of course you'll just respond with more dumb assnes so I don't expect you to absorb any of this.

You're a liar. Sylvia attempted a low kick which pissed off Mercer. Mercer also went for a double leg when he sent Sylvia falling like a tree.

It was an MMA match. Bottom line and Mercer whooped that ass.

No, GLOVE SIZE has nothing to do with the glass jaw thing. MMA'ers can progress to the highest point in MMA without ever getting punched. Look at Lesnar, that guy has had 4 fights and hasnt even had his chin tested yet.

In boxing, thats simply impossible. There are fighters who rarely get hit in boxing but they do get HIT. And if you have a bad chin, you simply wont last.

Fighters in the bareknuckle era would fight for hours and wouldnt get KO'd. Boxers simply have better chins.

[Babality]

And it all ends when the fight starts and you get stuff like Castillo vs Corrales...

Nah but seriously, I've grown to like MMA, even the ground fighting. But boxing fights are much more enjoyable.

[curmudgeon]

Now take Dana's dick out of your mouth and apologize for this drivel.

[theHawtness]

UFC fighters are underpaid.

boxers are richer.