Will you guys consider Mayweather top 3 ever, if he beats up Hatton and retires ?

[jaycuban]

what else would he have to prove >?

[sues2nd]

Top 3 what?

Not boxer....I dont even think bigtime9 would say some crazy stuff like that.

[ripcity]

I think history will be kind to Mayweather. I don't thinl we apricite how good he is. However he would have to do a lot more to break in to my top 3 of
Pernell Whitaker, Benny Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson. I think Mayweather is somewhere in the top 25 allready. If he were to beat Hatton I think we can talk about him being in the top 10 but I'm not sure he's in the top 10. There are a lot of good fights out there for him from 140 (if he can still make that weight)-154. If he were to win a tittle at 160 I would be realy impressed.
The short answer to your question is no.

[Toopretty]

If he puts on a dominate performance and stops hatton....................no......B/c I expect him to win... But if he gets ONE more after Hatton then I am putting him shoulder to shoulder with the best. Say he takes the Cotto/Shane winner and win...Years from now RJJ and Mayweather will be looked at as phenoms..

[Toopretty]

I mean 40 and 0 in 5 weight classes with 20 plus of those wins in CHAMPIONSHIP fights..thats remarkable...

[jaycuban]

i honestly think if he beats hatton he dosent really have to fight the winner of mosley and cotto to retire as the best in the game right now, and top 10 all time

[jaycuban]

I mean 40 and 0 in 5 weight classes with 20 plus of those wins in CHAMPIONSHIP fights..thats remarkable...


i think he has to get into a time machine and go back and fight leonard, duran and robinson in order for these people to give him the recognition and props that he deserves,

[MSTR]

If he puts on a dominate performance and stops hatton....................no......B/c I expect him to win... But if he gets ONE more after Hatton then I am putting him shoulder to shoulder with the best. Say he takes the Cotto/Shane winner and win...Years from now RJJ and Mayweather will be looked at as phenoms..
Roy was a more talented fighter then Mayweather IMO, however if your talking talent wise, then maybe (definitely not IMO) you could consider him up with the best. . Resume wise, Mayweather won't even come close to the top ATG's. I don't really understand how you have come to this conclusion however since it appears you are looking solely at his resume...

[Toopretty]

i think he has to get into a time machine and go back and fight leonard, duran and robinson in order for these people to give him the recognition and props that he deserves,

:good:rofl:rofl:rofl I know. It seems that they forget..that though he did not fight the quote biggest names and best comp..but every fighter he faced since his 18th pro fight beating hernandez excluding the extreme tune up of Burton/augustus. He fought championship level fighters that were ranked contenders..Its not like he was fighting tomato cans ..he fought decent guys in between the good fighters...he has been a champion since 1998 and never lost none of his straps in the ring.........Whats even funnier he started his career in 1996..lol most guys would of gased out and been done by 2003:yep

[Toopretty]

Roy was a more talented fighter then Mayweather IMO, however if your talking talent wise, then maybe (definitely not IMO) you could consider him up with the best. . Resume wise, Mayweather won't even come close to the top ATG's. I don't really understand how you have come to this conclusion however since it appears you are looking solely at his resume...

Why wont he....that sounds kind of half retarded to me...anybody doesnt move up 5 weight classes and stays undefeated in doing so..its not just the competition its the BIG picture the skill ...MAKING history..having a stellar amateur career..though he was robbed at the olympics... ATG status rubbing shoulders with the Haglers and the Leonards...Durans etc...

[Thread Stealer]

No.

[Toopretty]

I can never rank floyd top 3 ......that is insane...SRR, SRL, Duran...ALI....those great fighters of the 20s..... I mean I put him over a lot of the top guys but he cannot break top 10 unless he goes on fighting 3 more years

[bigtime9]

Not boxer....I dont even think bigtime9 would say some crazy stuff like that.

of course he is top 3..right now he is soldifying his status as #1 all time.

[KhanB]

i honestly think if he beats hatton he dosent really have to fight the winner of mosley and cotto to retire as the best in the game right now, and top 10 all time

You really think he's that good or are you just trying to provoke shit? Before we can even speculate that he's better than SRR, SRL, Pep, Duran has he really proven that P4P he's better than more current champs like Whitaker, Chavez, Barrera, and Hop?

[kg0208]

Why wont he....that sounds kind of half retarded to me...anybody doesnt move up 5 weight classes and stays undefeated in doing so..its not just the competition its the BIG picture the skill ...MAKING history..having a stellar amateur career..though he was robbed at the olympics... ATG status rubbing shoulders with the Haglers and the Leonards...Durans etc...

You prove your skill against great competition. Otherwise it remains unproven. His competition has not sufficed to prove his skill can carry him to the top 10 all time.

[sues2nd]

i honestly think if he beats hatton he dosent really have to fight the winner of mosley and cotto to retire as the best in the game right now, and top 10 all time

In no particular order and off the top of my head...

Whitaker
Leonard
Pep
Hopkins
Jones Jr
Ali
SRR
Hearns
JCC
Duran
Holyfield
Gans
B Leonard
Armstrong
Tunney
Greb
Marciano
Lewis
Louis
Dempsey
Johnson
Tyson
Hagler
Ross
Charles


Im getting bored...anyone else wanna add some names?

(I admit, if Floyd wins...which I think he will quite easily, you can argue him against quite a few of those...but seriously dude....top ten??? Your delusional...)

[thesandman]

Im getting bored...anyone else wanna add some names?

(I admit, if Floyd wins...which I think he will quite easily, you can argue him against quite a few of those...but seriously dude....top ten??? Your delusional...)

Bob Fitzsimmons.

Floyd should try defending belts. That would be a nice start.

[MSTR]

In no particular order and off the top of my head...

Whitaker
Leonard
Pep
Hopkins
Jones Jr
Ali
SRR
Hearns
JCC
Duran
Holyfield
Gans
B Leonard
Armstrong
Tunney
Greb
Marciano
Lewis
Louis
Dempsey
Johnson
Tyson
Hagler
Ross
Charles


Im getting bored...anyone else wanna add some names?

(I admit, if Floyd wins...which I think he will quite easily, you can argue him against quite a few of those...but seriously dude....top ten??? Your delusional...)
Agreed. Floyd was in a great position to forge an awesome legacy, but instead chose to take the path of least resistance. Gatti, Mitchell, Brusseles, Corley, Baldomir and Sosa all did NOTHING for his resume. For those who mention the titles, to the TRUE boxing fan the titles don't mean anything. Its the opponents that count. His best wins are against Corrales (who isn't elite), Castillo (a debatable victory over a guy who certainly isn't an ATG), Judah (who is good but inconsistent and coming off a loss) and Oscar (who was past prime and coming out of retirement). Not much to REALLY get excited about there. Perhaps if he beats Hatton then Cotto and then another top fighter, he might stake a claim as being a top 20 ATG, but a lot would depend on how good Hatton and more importantly Cotto (as he is still young) can go on to be.

[Toopretty]

In no particular order and off the top of my head...

Whitaker
Leonard
Pep
Hopkins
Jones Jr
Ali
SRR
Hearns
JCC
Duran
Holyfield
Gans
B Leonard
Armstrong
Tunney
Greb
Marciano
Lewis
Louis
Dempsey
Johnson
Tyson
Hagler
Ross
Charles


Im getting bored...anyone else wanna add some names?

(I admit, if Floyd wins...which I think he will quite easily, you can argue him against quite a few of those...but seriously dude....top ten??? Your delusional...)

Well. I will put Floyd over Hagler and Marciano if he wins...Ross..dont know much...I put floyd over Dempsey and from what I saw and my research he is one of the overrated guys from the past..I would put Floyd over Lennox Lewis..as well.. I put him over Tunney..Dont know much about Gans...I will Put him over B hop with a great win..over Hatton and if Bhop retires now...I would put him over Hearns..though Hearns is one of my favorite fighters of all time but he came up short too much.

[KhanB]

Well. I will put Floyd over Hagler and Marciano if he wins...Ross..dont know much...I put floyd over Dempsey and from what I saw and my research he is one of the overrated guys from the past..I would put Floyd over Lennox Lewis..as well.. I put him over Tunney..Dont know much about Gans...I will Put him over B hop with a great win..over Hatton and if Bhop retires now...I would put him over Hearns..though Hearns is one of my favorite fighters of all time but he came up short too much.

Id put Hopkins resume against Floyd Boys anyday and Hearns mightve lost a few times to mostly Hall of Famers but he also won titles in many weight classes.

[Toopretty]

Agreed. Floyd was in a great position to forge an awesome legacy, but instead chose to take the path of least resistance. Gatti, Mitchell, Brusseles, Corley, Baldomir and Sosa all did NOTHING for his resume. For those who mention the titles, to the TRUE boxing fan the titles don't mean anything. Its the opponents that count. His best wins are against Corrales (who isn't elite), Castillo (a debatable victory over a guy who certainly isn't an ATG), Judah (who is good but inconsistent and coming off a loss) and Oscar (who was past prime and coming out of retirement). Not much to REALLY get excited about there. Perhaps if he beats Hatton then Cotto and then another top fighter, he might stake a claim as being a top 20 ATG, but a lot would depend on how good Hatton and more imporatantly Cotto (as he is still young) can go on to be.

Corrales was elite at 130-135..or did you forget he was the reigning champ for years....him and Castillo ...before and after Floyd....ODH was not retired....he beat Mayorga and was the champion at 154. You are underminding his resume... If thats the Case then Tsyu doe not break top 50 all time b/c his resume is half that of floyds.....You are forgetting good solid fighters that went on to be champion like Jesus Chaves..Genaro Hernandez..you just completely left out all of his wins at 130 and the fact he defended his title 8-9 times....:patsch:rofl:rofl

[MSTR]

Why wont he....that sounds kind of half retarded to me...anybody doesnt move up 5 weight classes and stays undefeated in doing so..its not just the competition its the BIG picture the skill ...MAKING history..having a stellar amateur career..though he was robbed at the olympics... ATG status rubbing shoulders with the Haglers and the Leonards...Durans etc...
So De la Hoya won world titles in 7 weight divisions... DOes that make him the greatest ever then? Your point of view stinks of someone who is extremely naive. Titles and weight divisions is the LEAST important thing when considering ATG status.

[Toopretty]

Id put Hopkins resume against Floyd Boys anyday and Hearns mightve lost a few times to mostly Hall of Famers but he also won titles in many weight classes.

Yes, from 147-168..in a winning and losing effort during..Most losses were to other great fighters..but still were losses..Hearns we all loved so its hard to make a unbiased decision with him..NOBODY disliked Hearns.

[kg0208]

Corrales was elite at 130-135..or did you forget he was the reigning champ for years....him and Castillo ...before and after Floyd....ODH was not retired....he beat Mayorga and was the champion at 154. You are underminding his resume... If thats the Case then Tsyu doe not break top 50 all time b/c his resume is half that of floyds.....You are forgetting good solid fighters that went on to be champion like Jesus Chaves..Genaro Hernandez..you just completely left out all of his wins at 130 and the fact he defended his title 8-9 times....:patsch:rofl:rofl

KT isn't top 50 all time. No one really thinks he is.

DLH wasn't retired, but he was A champion at 154, not THE champion, and not even the highest rated champion. That was Spinks for beating Karmarzin.

PBF has some great wins at 130....but that resume is weak compared to other champions from other weight classes who were dominant. Trinidad for example only lost to ATG and defended his WW title 16 times or so. And his resume there DWARFS PBF's 130 resume. So where does he rank if PBF is top 10?

[sues2nd]

Well. I will put Floyd over Hagler and Marciano if he wins...Ross..dont know much...I put floyd over Dempsey and from what I saw and my research he is one of the overrated guys from the past..I would put Floyd over Lennox Lewis..as well.. I put him over Tunney..Dont know much about Gans...I will Put him over B hop with a great win..over Hatton and if Bhop retires now...I would put him over Hearns..though Hearns is one of my favorite fighters of all time but he came up short too much.

And those names were just off the top of my head!!!

Trust me....he is nowhere NEAR the top ten. And a win vs Hatton, tho will get him closer, will still land him NO WHERE NEAR the top ten.

And I am sorry, he is no where close to Holyfield, Hopkins or Jones either (for best of this era).

[Toopretty]

So De la Hoya won world titles in 7 weight divisions... DOes that make him the greatest ever then? Your point of view stinks of someone who is extremely naive. Titles and weight divisions is the LEAST important thing when considering ATG status.

ODH will go down as an ATG..but ODH lost the big fight....LOST..key word..lost...as I decapitated you earlier you left out floyds whole 130 reign and he is arguably one of the best at 130 EVER.....I dont expect much from you..your ridiculous views are redundant.

[kg0208]

Yes, from 147-168..in a winning and losing effort during..Most losses were to other great fighters..but still were losses..Hearns we all loved so its hard to make a unbiased decision with him..NOBODY disliked Hearns.

But losing to ATG fighters is higher in most regards than beating average to good ones. At least he fought them.

[unclepaulie]

only chance floyd has of being a consensus top 10 all time is if he beats the winner of mosley/cotto. and thats still a maybe.

[Toopretty]

And those names were just off the top of my head!!!

Trust me....he is nowhere NEAR the top ten. And a win vs Hatton, tho will get him closer, will still land him NO WHERE NEAR the top ten.

And I am sorry, he is no where close to Holyfield, Hopkins or Jones either (for best of this era).

Jones no..Hopkins..yes...Bhop best wins were over inflated welterweights..and thats for damned sure...he was the bigger man...and they moved up to fight him..same with Hagler.....they are fighting with an advantage.

[KhanB]

Yes, from 147-168..in a winning and losing effort during..Most losses were to other great fighters..but still were losses..Hearns we all loved so its hard to make a unbiased decision with him..NOBODY disliked Hearns.

True. Honestly, Floyd may be better Hearns in a P4P sense but he is well liked and he was a part of the Fab Four in the 80's when it was a good time to make a name for yourself.

[Jose FM]

i think he has to get into a time machine and go back and fight leonard, duran and robinson in order for these people to give him the recognition and props that he deserves,
Damn bro, get off his cock while its still limp. Those fighters that you mention up there actually beat ATG's while Mayweather in past two years has fought 2 journeymen (Mitchell, Baldomir) a wash up never has been (Judah) and barely got a split decision against a well past prime DLH. You put him up against guys like Leonard or Hearns and Gayrunner gets his shit pushed in.:good

[sues2nd]

ODH will go down as an ATG..but ODH lost the big fight....LOST..key word..lost...as I decapitated you earlier you left out floyds whole 130 reign and he is arguably one of the best at 130 EVER.....I dont expect much from you..your ridiculous views are redundant.

NO HE ISNT!!!!

:nut

Whitaker and Duran are so far ahead of him on the list that he can hardly read the names on thier trunks.

And again...thats two...just off the top of my head.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

One of the best ever at 130. Your funny...I like you....:rofl

[MSTR]

Corrales was elite at 130-135..or did you forget he was the reigning champ for years....him and Castillo ...before and after Floyd....ODH was not retired....he beat Mayorga and was the champion at 154. You are underminding his resume... If thats the Case then Tsyu doe not break top 50 all time b/c his resume is half that of floyds.....You are forgetting good solid fighters that went on to be champion like Jesus Chaves..Genaro Hernandez..you just completely left out all of his wins at 130 and the fact he defended his title 8-9 times....:patsch:rofl:rofl
Kostya Tszyus resume isn't very good. WHen did I ever say it was? Genaro Hernandez was old and whilst good, had already been stopped in 6 rounds by Oscar. Corrales was elite for the DVISION, but not overall on the p4p scale. Chazez is a good opponent, but nothing worthy of helping floyd achieve ATG status. He needs ATG opponents, or at least solid HOF's. He just hasn't done enough to come close at this point, or even after beating Hatton.

[Beebs]

Actually, in terms of potential and skillset shown for fantasy head to head matchups, there is possibly an argument, its a hard one and a losing one for top 3, but somewhere in the upper tier isn't unreasonable, especially if you single out a weightclass rather than pfp, but pfp also isn't that far of a stretch.

In terms of truely getting in there and accomplishing incredible feats, he just isn't there yet and while Hatton helps the argument, he isn't going to push PBF into that very limited top tier of guys.

Of course I think this is a moot point, as Hatton will take the fight.:good :bbb

[MSTR]

NO HE ISNT!!!!

:nut

JCC, Whitaker and Duran are so far ahead of him on the list that he can hardly read the names on thier trunks.

And again...thats three...just off the top of my head.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

One of the best ever at 130. Your funny...I like you....:rofl
I know. This guy has NO IDEA!

[Toopretty]

But losing to ATG fighters is higher in most regards than beating average to good ones. At least he fought them.

Like I said its Hearns..Our minds will never allow such..But Hearns lost to a lesser fighter in Barkley..twice...he was not prime the second time out.. but Barkley. He was beat by Hagler and Leonar.

[Jose FM]

Yes, from 147-168..in a winning and losing effort during..Most losses were to other great fighters..but still were losses..Hearns we all loved so its hard to make a unbiased decision with him..NOBODY disliked Hearns.
Yeah well he did get robbed against Leonard in their second fight and beat Duran, those right there are better wins than Gayrunners wins.

[MSTR]

You prove your skill against great competition. Otherwise it remains unproven. His competition has not sufficed to prove his skill can carry him to the top 10 all time.
Exactly.

[sues2nd]

I know. This guy has NO IDEA!

Im kinda actually getting a kick out of it....:good

[bigtime9]

Floyd should try defending belts. That would be a nice start.

did duran defend a title succesfully outside 135:rofl

[kg0208]

Like I said its Hearns..Our minds will never allow such..But Hearns lost to a lesser fighter in Barkley..twice...he was not prime the second time out.. but Barkley. He was beat by Hagler and Leonar.

But Hearns FOUGHT Hagler and Leonard. PBF has never fought anyone on that level.

Hearns also beat Duran and Benitez and a PRIME Virgil Hill who is very underrated and was unbeaten at the time at LHW, far above his natural weight. There is also the draw with Leonard. PBF can only match the Virgil Hill win and that's debatable.

[Toopretty]

NO HE ISNT!!!!

:nut

Whitaker and Duran are so far ahead of him on the list that he can hardly read the names on thier trunks.

And again...thats two...just off the top of my head.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

One of the best ever at 130. Your funny...I like you....:rofl


aaahhahahaha:nut:nut:nut you dumb ass...WHO THE HELL ON ESB SAYS OTHERWISE..where the fuck have you been......FLOYD DOMINATED 130 with no losses what the fuck are you bringing up whitaker who didnt even fight at that fucking weight..lol...JCC at 130 you got a point......but you are one dumb motherfucker.....

[bigtime9]

One of the best ever at 130. Your funny...I like you

who would rank ahead of floyd at 130.

don't worry I'll wait.:deal

[MSTR]

Well. I will put Floyd over Hagler and Marciano if he wins...Ross..dont know much...I put floyd over Dempsey and from what I saw and my research he is one of the overrated guys from the past..I would put Floyd over Lennox Lewis..as well.. I put him over Tunney..Dont know much about Gans...I will Put him over B hop with a great win..over Hatton and if Bhop retires now...I would put him over Hearns..though Hearns is one of my favorite fighters of all time but he came up short too much.
You would put Floyd over Hagler? Over Tunney? Over Hearns? Are you for real?

[MSTR]

But Hearns FOUGHT Hagler and Leonard. PBF has never fought anyone on that level.

Hearns also beat Duran and Benitez and a PRIME Virgil Hill who is very underrated and was unbeaten at the time at LHW, far above his natural weight. There is also the draw with Leonard. PBF can only match the Virgil Hill win and that's debatable.
Your wasting your time. This guy is a tool. Plain and simple.

[Toopretty]

That sues 2nd motherfucker talkiing shit...DEAD fucking wrong dont even got the right weight class and shit...I never said Floyd over Pea...Floyd over Duran..Leonard..But hearns is debatable and you guys are talking some fucking virgil hill who was a good but no a great fighter.. A good fighter...not great..repeat..floyd has fought many good fighters..with this criteria..no fighters of right now are shit...lol.............none ........

[nickthegreek]

of course he is top 3..right now he is soldifying his status as #1 all time.

:rofl

[Toopretty]

You would put Floyd over Hagler? Over Tunney? Over Hearns? Are you for real?

Yes the fuck I would put him over Hagler......39-0 over 5 weight classes..Haglers best wins are over a blown up Duran and Hearns..and some other solid but not great middleweight contenders..if you are going by resume..your shit aint holding no water....with that..And if you check the post you dumb motherfucker..I said with a win or knockout win over hatton then the winner of Shane..I said right now he is an ATG but to rub shoulders with these folk the The 2 fights have to occur with WINS..especially if cotto wins and he beats him....:nut:nut:patsch

[ripcity]

Beating Hatton just is not enough for Mayweather to make my top 3. I'm not saying that he's not an all time great but he is not top 3.

[kg0208]

That sues 2nd motherfucker talkiing shit...DEAD fucking wrong dont even got the right weight class and shit...I never said Floyd over Pea...Floyd over Duran..Leonard..But hearns is debatable and you guys are talking some fucking virgil hill who was a good but no a great fighter.. A good fighter...not great..repeat..floyd has fought many good fighters..with this criteria..no fighters of right now are shit...lol.............none ........
You're damn right I said Virgil Hill. You mention guys like Corrales and Castillo for PBF and I can't mention a PRIME Virgil Hill?

Hill is a 2 weight class champion who defended his LHW title 10 consecutive times before losing it to Hearns. He then got it back and defended it 9 times in a row before losing to DM and then Jones.

In his prime weight class Hill only lost 3 fights. 2 of them to ATG (Hearns and Jones) and one to a HoF caliber fighter (DM) who holds the record for title defenses at LHW!

You compare Castillo and Corrales to that. Something tells me you don't know much about Virgil Hill.

[Toopretty]

Dumb Floyd hating bitches... fuck out of here..you dont get as highly regarded by ALL OF BOXING by being a quote trendy fighter..here today gone tomorrow type of motherfucker...

[kg0208]

Dumb Floyd hating bitches... fuck out of here..you dont get as highly regarded by ALL OF BOXING by being a quote trendy fighter..here today gone tomorrow type of motherfucker...

All the fighers we named ahead of PBF were highly regarded. So that isn't really a counterargument now is it?

[Beebs]

did duran defend a title succesfully outside 135:rofl

It brings up an interesting point though, does Floyds weight jumping ultimately help or hurt his pfp ratings?

On one hand it obviously proves he can carry his skills up significantly higher than what most would consider his ideal weight classes, but on the other the guys he has been, while clearly bigger than him, have often been fighting a weightclass above what most would consider their ideal class, Oscar being the obvious example. Also Floyds next fight, while at 147, is against a fighter who seems to be much better at 140, so the question then becomes is Floyd still able to make those lower weights? I think he can, but it does raise the question.

So would Floyd actually be better off in a pfp sense to stay in a weightclass closer to, but still above, his ideal weight and dominate fighters that are bigger, but fighting in their ideal weight class?

[Toopretty]

You're damn right I said Virgil Hill. You mention guys like Corrales and Castillo for PBF and I can't mention a PRIME Virgil Hill?

Hill is a 2 weight class champion who defended his LHW title 10 consecutive times before losing it to Hearns. He then got it back and defended it 9 times in a row before losing to DM and then Jones.

In his prime weight class Hill only lost 3 fights. 2 of them to ATG (Hearns and Jones) and one to a HoF caliber fighter (DM) who holds the record for title defenses at LHW!

You compare Castillo and Corrales to that. Something tells me you don't know much about Virgil Hill.

Name the guys he beat.....Ok I will wait...and I will name the guys Corrales beat..and he only lost to HIGH level fighters like floyd, castillo and Casamayor...

[sues2nd]

aaahhahahaha:nut:nut:nut you dumb ass...WHO THE HELL ON ESB SAYS OTHERWISE..where the fuck have you been......FLOYD DOMINATED 130 with no losses what the fuck are you bringing up whitaker who didnt even fight at that fucking weight..lol...JCC at 130 you got a point......but you are one dumb motherfucker.....

Im dumb and you have Floyd in your top ten (I jumped too quick at it....any day bro, we can go boxing knowledge and I will embarrass you...AND NOONE ON THIS SITE WILL TELL YOU DIFFERENT!!!).

Quick question....for all of those championships you named....how many defenses did you have?

12 for 5 titles (and I even counted the IBO, whatever the fuck that is....:lol: ).

Now, as for the 130 arguement....What about Pep? Or Benny Leonard? Or Duran (as I mentioned)?

I could really keep going....

[sues2nd]

did duran defend a title succesfully outside 135:rofl

We are not talking about outside of 135....jackass.

hurhurhurhurhurhurhur

[Toopretty]

You're damn right I said Virgil Hill. You mention guys like Corrales and Castillo for PBF and I can't mention a PRIME Virgil Hill?

Hill is a 2 weight class champion who defended his LHW title 10 consecutive times before losing it to Hearns. He then got it back and defended it 9 times in a row before losing to DM and then Jones.

In his prime weight class Hill only lost 3 fights. 2 of them to ATG (Hearns and Jones) and one to a HoF caliber fighter (DM) who holds the record for title defenses at LHW!

You compare Castillo and Corrales to that. Something tells me you don't know much about Virgil Hill.

WBA light heavy championship....:D WOW No disrespect..but again..good fighter..solid...

[Maxmomer]

All time? Of any weight class?

[kg0208]

Name the guys he beat.....Ok I will wait...and I will name the guys Corrales beat..and he only lost to HIGH level fighters like floyd, castillo and Casamayor...

Are you going to compare losses to PBF, Castillo, and Casamayor to losses to Hearns, Roy Jones Jr, and DM?

Why name the guys he beat? You won't know who they are:deal

Do you know who Henry Maske is? What about Leslie Stewart? What about Fabrice Tiozzo? If you do, then you will know how highly regarded they were, especially Stewart.

[kg0208]

WBA light heavy championship....:D WOW No disrespect..but again..good fighter..solid...
The WBA title is the first title so I don't get where you are going with this. He also won the Lineal Title. And yes, he was a great fighter, just not an atg....neither are Castillo, Corrales and Hernandez. He was better than Corrales was and Castillo, who are good solid fighters as well.

[sues2nd]

And seriously....look at Floyd's resume. I can name 30+ fighters EASILY who beat better competition (and beat).

Floyd is a once in a lifetime talent....I will NEVER take that away from him. But to put him in THE TOP FRIGGIN TEN ALL TIME is an just plain fuckin stupid.

(and shiftygrits....or shall we call you bigtime10....again, I have forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know...please dont embarass yourself any further)

[Toopretty]

Im dumb and you have Floyd in your top ten (I jumped too quick at it....any day bro, we can go boxing knowledge and I will embarrass you...AND NOONE ON THIS SITE WILL TELL YOU DIFFERENT!!!).

Quick question....for all of those championships you named....how many defenses did you have?

12 for 5 titles (and I even counted the IBO, whatever the fuck that is....:lol: ).

Now, as for the 130 arguement....What about Pep? Or Benny Leonard? Or Duran (as I mentioned)?

I could really keep going....

Mother fucker are you slow...........Duran fought at 135 not 130....the fuck are you talking about..... I didnt put Floyd over benny leonard..and bitch I did not say floyd was top 10 right NOW.. I said with a win over hatton then a win over Mosley/Cotto winner..Dumb ass:nut:nut:patsch

[Beebs]

While belts are still important, don't you think that in the current state of alphabet soups and absurd mandatories and striping of belts, that they are not nearly as important as before?

[MSTR]

That sues 2nd motherfucker talkiing shit...DEAD fucking wrong dont even got the right weight class and shit...I never said Floyd over Pea...Floyd over Duran..Leonard..But hearns is debatable and you guys are talking some fucking virgil hill who was a good but no a great fighter.. A good fighter...not great..repeat..floyd has fought many good fighters..with this criteria..no fighters of right now are shit...lol.............none ........
Speak English please. And then tell me how he is better than Duran and Leonard...

[bigtime9]

Dumb Floyd hating bitches... fuck out of here..you dont get as highly regarded by ALL OF BOXING by being a quote trendy fighter..here today gone tomorrow type of motherfucker...


man they are too lame they can't find a fighter who has done what floyd has accomplidhed by the age of 30. they will make excuses and say he didn't fight the top guys but he did. as proved in the other thread about this same issue.

[kg0208]

man they are too lame they can't find a fighter who has done what floyd has accomplidhed by the age of 30. they will make excuses and say he didn't fight the top guys but he did. as proved in the other thread about this same issue.

Lets all laugh at the idiot :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[sues2nd]

Mother fucker are you slow...........Duran fought at 135 not 130....the fuck are you talking about..... I didnt put Floyd over benny leonard..and bitch I did not say floyd was top 10 right NOW.. I said with a win over hatton then a win over Mosley/Cotto winner..Dumb ass:nut:nut:patsch

And started his career at a LIGHTER WEIGHT (get off of boxrec buddy)!!! What is your point.

Floyd accomplished ALOT again at 130....but as I have said, HE ISNT THE BEST TO EVER FIGHT AT THAT WEIGHT!!!

[sues2nd]

Lets all laugh at the idiot :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

hurhurhurhurhurhur!!

Hey who wants to bet that shittygrits and fagtime9 are the same guy?

:lol:

Same dumb arguements...same dismissing of points from other people....same stupid insults....same smileys in every answer....same ol' bullshit....

:think

[Toopretty]

Speak English please. And then tell me how he is better Duran and Leonard...

YOU are some dumb HIGH motherfuckers..for real...You motherfuckers need scroll the fuck back and see what I originally said..This is assuming wins in the future bitch....If he cant become an ATG..lol by your standards by beating the best fighters out now..you need to realized you are a fucking hater...and that fighters like virgil hill beat lesser fighters that were probably OK but NOTHING special at fucking all..You mentioning his comp like they were great or something..lol

[kg0208]

YOU are some dumb HIGH motherfuckers..for real...You motherfuckers need scroll the fuck back and see what I originally said..This is assuming wins in the future bitch....If he cant become an ATG..lol by your standards by beating the best fighters out now..you need to realized you are a fucking hater...and that fighters like virgil hill beat lesser fighters that were probably OK but NOTHING special at fucking all..You mentioning his comp like they were great or something..lol

You need to calm your childish ass down.

I never said he can't be an ATG. He can be, but not top 10 on those 2 fights. He has never beaten a prime ATG and only ONE P4P rated fighter.

And you don't know shit about Virgil Hill who in the 80's was a far more dominant champion than either Castillo or Corrales. You just said he beat lesser comp that were probably ok, meaning you don't know who they are so you can't judge them. I am not comparing him to PBF, I am comparing him to Corrales and Castillo. A win over a Prime Hill at 175 for a past it Hearns is better than a prime PBF over Corrales at 130.

[bigtime9]

Speak English please. And then tell me how he is better Duran and Leonard...


better then leonard yes, but debatable based on comp, and better then duran yes definitiely.


duran's titles outside of 135

147 ray leoanrd--lost rematch so no succesful defenses of a title at 147

154 davey moore-- beat a 12-0 fighter to win an alphabet title:lol: lost unification fight against hearns

160 barkley--barely beat barkely and never defended the 160 title he won


so duran was never the lineal or ring champ outside of 147 and he never made a succesful defense of any title outside of 135. so if duran is some super top 5 atg then why did he never dominate a division outside of 135:deal why did it take duran 5 years to get a title shot at middleweight. and after he lost the title at 160 he fought on another 9 years at 160 to never win the title again.:deal

duran's career breaks down pre 1980 domianted 135 12 title defenses and post 1980 won three titles over 20 years:deal

in contrast floyd has domianted 130-154, he would be favored over any fighter at those weights during his era. can anyone say the same about duran:deal

[Toopretty]

And started his career at a LIGHTER WEIGHT (get off of boxrec buddy)!!! What is your point.

Floyd accomplished ALOT again at 130....but as I have said, HE ISNT THE BEST TO EVER FIGHT AT THAT WEIGHT!!!

Bitch yeah you forgot more boxing then i ever knew..but your dumb ass dont even know what everybody fucking knows you dumb bitch that Duran was not a champion at 130 but he got his championsip at 135 at fucking lightweight which everybody knows about Duran being a fucking beast at lightweight bitch I got a tv..I watch espn classic motherfucker... :rofl:rofl:rofl You this clown got proven wrong on all kinds of shit..first saying whitaker was fighting at 130 then duran..lol SHUT THE FUCK UP >>>>>

[kg0208]

better then leonard yes, but debatable based on comp, and better then duran yes definitiely.


duran's titles outside of 135

147 ray leoanrd--lost rematch so no succesful defenses of a title at 147

154 davey moore-- beat a 12-0 fighter to win an alphabet title:lol: lost unification fight against hearns

160 barkley--barely beat barkely and never defended the 160 title he won


so duran was never the lineal or ring champ outside of 147 and he never made a succesful defense of any title outside of 135. so if duran is some super top 5 atg then why did he never dominate a division outside of 135:deal why did it take duran 5 years to get a title shot at middleweight. and after he lost the title at 160 he fought on another 9 years at 160 to never win the title again.:deal

duran's career breaks down pre 1980 domianted 135 12 title defenses and post 1980 won three titles over 20 years:deal

in contrast floyd has domianted 130-154, he would be favored over any fighter at those weights during his era. can anyone say the same about duran:deal

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[sues2nd]

YOU are some dumb HIGH motherfuckers..for real...You motherfuckers need scroll the fuck back and see what I originally said..This is assuming wins in the future bitch....If he cant become an ATG..lol by your standards by beating the best fighters out now..you need to realized you are a fucking hater...and that fighters like virgil hill beat lesser fighters that were probably OK but NOTHING special at fucking all..You mentioning his comp like they were great or something..lol

Did you just recently get into boxing or something? You sound like it.

And BTW, it was said that after he beats HATTON, not all of the top comp out there, will he be top 10. And the answer to that is EMPHATICALLY NO!

Again, Holyfield, Hopkins and Jones are all FAR ahead of him. Meaning he aint even top 3 of ACTIVE FIGHTERS!!!

Oh and let me clear something up...if we are talking a pure talent (accomplishments and resume be damned....) you could out Floyd top ten and I doubt many people would put up THAT much of an arguement.....but that is NOT what the thread, nor your post stated.

(I do believe ONE person said that....the guy with the MMA avatar...and if you noticed...noone said shit to him about it...because its valid or at least arguable)

[bigtime9]

He has never beaten a prime ATG and only ONE P4P rated fighter.


no fighter in their prime would be considered an ATG that is only conferred after their career has ended. in terms of p4p that is wholly subjective. beating the champ is what counts.

[kg0208]

Did you just recently get into boxing or something? You sound like it.

And BTW, it was said that after he beats HATTON, not all of the top comp out there, will he be top 10. And the answer to that is EMPHATICALLY NO!

Again, Holyfield, Hopkins and Jones are all FAR ahead of him. Meaning he aint even top 3 of ACTIVE FIGHTERS!!!

Oh and let me clear something up...if we are talking a pure talent (accomplishments and resume be damned....) you could out Floyd top ten and I doubt many people would put up THAT much of an arguement.....but that is NOT what the thread, nor your post stated.

(I do believe ONE person said that....the guy with the MMA avatar...and if you noticed...noone said shit to him about it...because its valid or at least arguable)

Talent wise he could be top 10 all time. He would still be behind Jones and Hearns in the modern era at the very least.

[sues2nd]

Top three ever? :lol:

Hell no! He's not even top of the current fighters! Not with a Gatti/Bruseles/ Baldomir kind of resume! :lol:

Dominga....after the other day...I never thought Id say something as crazy as this....but here goes.....

Good post bro!!!

:good

[kg0208]

no fighter in their prime would be considered an ATG that is only conferred after their career has ended. in terms of p4p that is wholly subjective. beating the champ is what counts.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[sues2nd]

Talent wise he could be top 10 all time. He would still be behind Jones and Hearns in the modern era at the very least.

And Whitaker and Ray Leonard. But Id probably put him at 5.

[bigtime9]

Again, Holyfield, Hopkins and Jones are all FAR ahead of him. Meaning he aint even top 3 of ACTIVE FIGHTERS!!!


based on what objective criteria, because your opinion isn't good enough for me.:deal

[kg0208]

And Whitaker and Ray Leonard. But Id probably put him at 5.

Well even then....on sheer talent? Donald Curry has to be in there as well.

[nickthegreek]

better then leonard yes, but debatable based on comp, and better then duran yes definitiely.


duran's titles outside of 135

147 ray leoanrd--lost rematch so no succesful defenses of a title at 147

154 davey moore-- beat a 12-0 fighter to win an alphabet title:lol: lost unification fight against hearns

160 barkley--barely beat barkely and never defended the 160 title he won


so duran was never the lineal or ring champ outside of 147 and he never made a succesful defense of any title outside of 135. so if duran is some super top 5 atg then why did he never dominate a division outside of 135:deal why did it take duran 5 years to get a title shot at middleweight. and after he lost the title at 160 he fought on another 9 years at 160 to never win the title again.:deal

duran's career breaks down pre 1980 domianted 135 12 title defenses and post 1980 won three titles over 20 years:deal

in contrast floyd has domianted 130-154, he would be favored over any fighter at those weights during his era. can anyone say the same about duran:deal

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[bigtime9]

Pac has beaten more than ten champs. :rasta

I don't count the nabf and the IBO:rofl

[MSTR]

Did you just recently get into boxing or something? You sound like it.

And BTW, it was said that after he beats HATTON, not all of the top comp out there, will he be top 10. And the answer to that is EMPHATICALLY NO!

Again, Holyfield, Hopkins and Jones are all FAR ahead of him. Meaning he aint even top 3 of ACTIVE FIGHTERS!!!

Oh and let me clear something up...if we are talking a pure talent (accomplishments and resume be damned....) you could out Floyd top ten and I doubt many people would put up THAT much of an arguement.....but that is NOT what the thread, nor your post stated.

(I do believe ONE person said that....the guy with the MMA avatar...and if you noticed...noone said shit to him about it...because its valid or at least arguable)
Good post. He never said after he beats Cotto or Mosley. he is just making stuff up now to try and sound intelligent.

[Toopretty]

This fucking fake ass lynch mob....I handled better then this shit..The same old fucking morons ..day in day out..WRONG AS shit..

[kg0208]

No he is no. 1. The most talented runner in the history of boxing. :good

You are just as bad never admitting you are wrong though. You still won't admit PBF beat a top 10 p4p ranked Corrales when the link has been provided for you 2 times now.

If you can' t do that, you are just as bad as them.

[IrnBruMan]

no fighter in their prime would be considered an ATG that is only conferred after their career has ended. in terms of p4p that is wholly subjective. beating the champ is what counts.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Floyd didn't beat the champ at 140 or 154

Come back to the other thread dummy, it's gone all quiet without you

Your face still red after being PWNED for 20 pages? :rofl

[sues2nd]

Well even then....on sheer talent? Donald Curry has to be in there as well.

Talent is a hard thing to judge tho. I truely believe that on talent alone....Zab Judah is a menace. He has it all...skills, power, speed, etc. But he doesnt have the mental makeup to ever put it together. But again...talent....the guy is a freak.

[Toopretty]

Hey yall whores.. you monkey dumb lying fucks and to that pee wee herman looking mother fucker..you want to str8 up lie on me..MY FIRST POST ON THIS FUCKING THREAD

If he puts on a dominate performance and stops hatton....................no......B/c I expect him to win... But if he gets ONE more after Hatton then I am putting him shoulder to shoulder with the best. Say he takes the Cotto/Shane winner and win...Years from now RJJ and Mayweather will be looked at as phenoms..

:rofl :rofl :rofl :nut :nut :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :desk :desk :desk :desk

[kg0208]

This fucking fake ass lynch mob....I handled better then this shit..The same old fucking morons ..day in day out..WRONG AS shit..

Prove me wrong. Tell me all you know about Virgil Hills career and resume and the guys on it. Tell me about Leslie Stewart and Henry Maske. Tell me about how Hill was a top 10 ranked P4P fighter when Ring started ranking them in 1989. You don't know anything about him so how can you dispute it?

[IrnBruMan]

This fucking fake ass lynch mob....I handled better then this shit..The same old fucking morons ..day in day out..WRONG AS shit..

:lol:

Why'd you take your pic down from the other thread TooPurty? :yep

[kg0208]

Talent is a hard thing to judge tho. I truely believe that on talent alone....Zab Judah is a menace. He has it all...skills, power, speed, etc. But he doesnt have the mental makeup to ever put it together. But again...talent....the guy is a freak.


You're right. Good point. He was never as skilled a boxer as Curry though. Curry just got ruined after starting off strong. Kinda like Meldrick Taylor.

[Amsterdam]

Talent is a hard thing to judge tho. I truely believe that on talent alone....Zab Judah is a menace. He has it all...skills, power, speed, etc. But he doesnt have the mental makeup to ever put it together. But again...talent....the guy is a freak.

It's really a waste, perfect combination of speed and power with a very good set of fundamental skills.

[kg0208]

Where is the link? :roll:
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[sues2nd]

better then leonard yes, but debatable based on comp, and better then duran yes definitiely.


duran's titles outside of 135

147 ray leoanrd--lost rematch so no succesful defenses of a title at 147

154 davey moore-- beat a 12-0 fighter to win an alphabet title:lol: lost unification fight against hearns

160 barkley--barely beat barkely and never defended the 160 title he won


so duran was never the lineal or ring champ outside of 147 and he never made a succesful defense of any title outside of 135. so if duran is some super top 5 atg then why did he never dominate a division outside of 135:deal why did it take duran 5 years to get a title shot at middleweight. and after he lost the title at 160 he fought on another 9 years at 160 to never win the title again.:deal

duran's career breaks down pre 1980 domianted 135 12 title defenses and post 1980 won three titles over 20 years:deal

in contrast floyd has domianted 130-154, he would be favored over any fighter at those weights during his era. can anyone say the same about duran:deal

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

He dominated 154.....in one fight....vs an past his prime Oscar....in a close fight (but a clear win for Floyd....).

OH YEAH!!!! DOMINATION AT ITS FINEST!!!

:patsch

You really are the worst poster on here.

:lol:

hurhurhurhurhurhurhur!

[Toopretty]

Did you just recently get into boxing or something? You sound like it.

And BTW, it was said that after he beats HATTON, not all of the top comp out there, will he be top 10. And the answer to that is EMPHATICALLY NO!

Again, Holyfield, Hopkins and Jones are all FAR ahead of him. Meaning he aint even top 3 of ACTIVE FIGHTERS!!!

Oh and let me clear something up...if we are talking a pure talent (accomplishments and resume be damned....) you could out Floyd top ten and I doubt many people would put up THAT much of an arguement.....but that is NOT what the thread, nor your post stated.

(I do believe ONE person said that....the guy with the MMA avatar...and if you noticed...noone said shit to him about it...because its valid or at least arguable)

I dont give a shit what you say..you eat your damn words all the time..I know who the fuck you are..you never..ever beat me..you talk out of your ass dead fucking wrong.you must of just got in to boxing....fucking retard.

[MSTR]

YOU are some dumb HIGH motherfuckers..for real...You motherfuckers need scroll the fuck back and see what I originally said..This is assuming wins in the future bitch....If he cant become an ATG..lol by your standards by beating the best fighters out now..you need to realized you are a fucking hater...and that fighters like virgil hill beat lesser fighters that were probably OK but NOTHING special at fucking all..You mentioning his comp like they were great or something..lol
HAHAHA... your childish insults are quite funny. Moving on though, you said if floyd beats hatton. Thats what we all based our response on. Don't lie now. I am glad the whole board has now experienced first hand your stupidity. Its been fun. Floyd is a very good fighter, and I enjoy watching him fight. I respect his resume, I just don't think he has a chance at becoming a top ten ATG by a long shot, even after beating Hatton. I am not a hater, just a realistic fan. You are what we call a "Nuthugger".

[Amsterdam]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

He dominated 154.....in one fight....vs an past his prime Oscar....in a close fight (but a clear win for Floyd....).

OH YEAH!!!! DOMINATION AT ITS FINEST!!!

:patsch

You really are the worst poster on here.

:lol:

hurhurhurhurhurhurhur!

Oscar is technically not even a top 5 at 154 at the moment.

You have Simms, Alcine, Spinks, Dzinziruk and Karmazin, they'd all defeat him with relative ease at this point too, especially movers like Spinks and Simms.

Floyd would never fight any of those guys, thats the sad part, even though I'd personally give him the utmost credit for defeating just 1 of them.

[sues2nd]

You're right. Good point. He was never as skilled a boxer as Curry though. Curry just got ruined after starting off strong. Kinda like Meldrick Taylor.

Another one of a kind talent. Forrest was also quite skilled (pre-Mayorga). And Mosely. Talent is just too hard to judge, unless its a truely special case...like Whitaker or Floyd or Jones, etc.

[Toopretty]

:lol:

Why'd you take your pic down from the other thread TooPurty? :yep

ahaha were your pic at...lol oh I forget you are a whore...I put a pic on this bitch...I want to prove that fake ass fat shit you said wrong..just b/c I dont look like fucking mutated sonic the hedgehog..like that other motherfucker..:rofl:rofl

[kg0208]

Another one of a kind talent. Forrest was also quite skilled (pre-Mayorga). And Mosely. Talent is just too hard to judge, unless its a truely special case...like Whitaker or Floyd or Jones, etc.
I think Curry was special.

Hell, Calzaghe was a special talent I think, but he may have waited too long to show it.

[Amsterdam]

Another one of a kind talent. Forrest was also quite skilled (pre-Mayorga). And Mosely. Talent is just too hard to judge, unless its a truely special case...like Whitaker or Floyd or Jones, etc.

If Forrest were matched with DLH and Quartey also, people would think differently of him. Who was the other top WW at the time.

But he stands now as an underrated talent, very skilled.

[Toopretty]

HAHAHA... your childish insults are quite funny. Moving on though, you said if floyd beats hatton. Thats what we all based our response on. Don't lie now. I am glad the whole board has now experienced first hand your stupidity. Its been fun. Floyd is a very good fighter, and I enjoy watching him fight. I respect his resume, I just don't think he has a chance at becoming a top ten ATG by a long shot, even after beating Hatton. I am not a hater, just a realistic fan. You are what we call a "Nuthugger".

Hey Pee wee you just mad...Like I said bitch here goes my first post for your special ass...........you can go back and look...if you bothered...but you have an agenda like this other monkey fucking clowns..and my insults is to your stupidity.

If he puts on a dominate performance and stops hatton....................no......B/c I expect him to win... But if he gets ONE more after Hatton then I am putting him shoulder to shoulder with the best. Say he takes the Cotto/Shane winner and win...Years from now RJJ and Mayweather will be looked at as phenoms.

[DanePugilist]

"Will you guys consider Mayweather top 3 ever, if he beats up Hatton and retires ? "

Nope, he wouldn't even be Top 50.

[bigtime9]

Floyd didn't beat the champ at 140 or 154


floyd beat the wbc champ at 140 and 154..for me that is enough:deal

Come back to the other thread dummy, it's gone all quiet without you

Your face still red after being PWNED for 20 pages?

coming from the resident sheep fucker..:lol:

[sues2nd]

Oscar is technically not even a top 5 at 154 at the moment.

You have Simms, Alcine, Spinks, Dzinziruk and Karmazin, they'd all defeat him with relative ease at this point too, especially movers like Spinks and Simms.

Floyd would never fight any of those guys, thats the sad part, even though I'd personally give him the utmost credit for defeating just 1 of them.

ooooooooo, I was front seat driving the Travis Simms express when we veered off and hit a tree. Fucked up the fender. The airbags didnt deploy....none of us were wearing seatbelts and noone survived.

Too bad his performance vs Alcine wasnt as exciting as the crash tho....:lol:

(I still cant figure out for the life of me how a guy with THAT MUCH TALENT, put out a stinker like he did....I think he is done for now....sad, he REALLY couldve made some noise)

[Toopretty]

I just took a huge shit on this clowns jumping in halfway on a thread ass betting and talking out the side of there neck ....I SAID NO...........anyone on the thread earlier knows this..lol..Fucking sues 2nd....lol yeah you forgot a lot boxing alright or is it that you never knew it...

[sues2nd]

I think Curry was special.

Hell, Calzaghe was a special talent I think, but he may have waited too long to show it.

Joe will show it against Kessler. EASY UD!!!








































Then he will lose to Hopkins........:good (<---thats for Amsterdam :lol: )

[Fullcontact5238]

id like to see floyd unify the welterweight Div. even tho he as ready has the ring belt, after hatton. fight the winner of cotto, mosley. Then maybe add another belt, maybe paul williams' or what not make a couple of defenses like a true champ, then he can be something really great, he should clean out the div like all the other great champs have

[Toopretty]

id like to see floyd unify the welterweight Div. even tho he as ready has the ring belt, after hatton. fight the winner of cotto, mosley. Then maybe add another belt, maybe paul williams' or what not make a couple of defenses like a true champ, then he can be something really great, he should clean out the div like all the other great champs have

Oh..like he did 130

[sues2nd]

I just took a huge shit on this clowns jumping in halfway on a thread ass betting and talking out the side of there neck ....I SAID NO...........anyone on the thread earlier knows this..lol..Fucking sues 2nd....lol yeah you forgot a lot boxing alright or is it that you never knew it...

Yes your excessive use of periods and insults really showed us!!!

:good

(does this guy REALLY think he knows anything about boxing...other than what boxrec shows??)

[Amsterdam]

ooooooooo, I was front seat driving the Travis Simms express when we veered off and hit a tree. Fucked up the fender. The airbags didnt deploy....none of us were wearing seatbelts and noone survived.

Too bad his performance vs Alcine wasnt as exciting as the crash tho....:lol:

(I still cant figure out for the life of me how a guy with THAT MUCH TALENT, put out a stinker like he did....I think he is done for now....sad, he REALLY couldve made some noise)

It was a bad night, but he was in no position for one. He'd beat Oscar or Shane as it stands, or Forrest for that matter. That would get him recognition, but he won't recieve it.

He could have pasted Alcine in 2 rounds, he'd have gotten little oppurtunity, I hate this type of stuff.

Meanwhile if Oscar pasted crap Margarito, the world would shake.

[sues2nd]

Oh..like he did 130

HE NEVER UNIFIED 130!!!!

:patsch

[Amsterdam]

Joe will show it against Kessler. EASY UD!!!








































Then he will lose to Hopkins........:good (<---thats for Amsterdam :lol: )

Hopkins loses to any skilled, quick SMW-LHW at this point. Even some good pressure guys.

Wright doesn't mean anything at 170. But, he could probably finish off that cuntbag Jermain Taylor at 175 if he pressed hard enough, even though that's not impressive.

[Toopretty]

Yes your excessive use of periods and insults really showed us!!!

:good

(does this guy REALLY think he knows anything about boxing...other than what boxrec shows??)

Nah you proved you dont know shit about fighters..Whitaker 130 Duran 130......CLASSIC.... bitch..I been posting on this bitch for years..boxrec..maybe for some 1920s fighter..bitch you claim to know shit but are fucking dEAADDDDDDDDD wrong most of the time..Like I said.I know you..I done stomped mudholes in your shit...

[MSTR]

Yes your excessive use of periods and insults really showed us!!!

:good

(does this guy REALLY think he knows anything about boxing...other than what boxrec shows??)
He is a total dick. He ACTUALLY thinks that he has a better resume then Tunney, Hearns, Duran and Leonard.

[sues2nd]

Hopkins loses to any skilled, quick SMW-LHW at this point. Even some good pressure guys.

Wright doesn't mean anything at 170.

Another arguement for another thread my brotha!!!
















































(Hopkins UD :D )

[Toopretty]

HE NEVER UNIFIED 130!!!!

:patsch

You got one breed of faggot saying that oh...all these alphabet titles..lol the same breed talk shit about not unifying...classic..Oh yeah I forgot..he didnt unify but defended his WBC strap that he got from the real 130 champ...But I guess that he didnt UNIFY....those ABC belts...it aint worse then your whitaker at 130:patsch:patsch:patsch smack your damned self

[kg0208]

Nah you proved you dont know shit about fighters..Whitaker 130 Duran 130......CLASSIC.... bitch..I been posting on this bitch for years..boxrec..maybe for some 1920s fighter..bitch you claim to know shit but are fucking dEAADDDDDDDDD wrong most of the time..Like I said.I know you..I done stomped mudholes in your shit...

You are toopretty aren't you? Why the alias?

[Toopretty]

He is a total dick. He ACTUALLY thinks that he has a better resume then Tunney, Hearns, Duran and Leonard.

Fuck you and your personal attacks..you aint got shit to say but try to jump on some kind of weak ass bandwagon against me..lol with WEAK posters like Sues sloppy 2nds...wow..You need to cut that gay ass shit out.

[kg0208]

Fuck you and your personal attacks..you aint got shit to say but try to jump on some kind of weak ass bandwagon against me..lol with WEAK posters like Sues sloppy 2nds...wow..You need to cut that gay ass shit out.

You started personal attacks. Do don't bitch about them now.

Still waiting for my answer on Virgil Hill and the details of his career.

[sues2nd]

Nah you proved you dont know shit about fighters..Whitaker 130 Duran 130......CLASSIC.... bitch..I been posting on this bitch for years..boxrec..maybe for some 1920s fighter..bitch you claim to know shit but are fucking dEAADDDDDDDDD wrong most of the time..Like I said.I know you..I done stomped mudholes in your shit...

And you just said Floyd unified 130.....CLASSIC (you do realize that some boxrec weights are not what they weighed for the fight, RIGHT??? Again, get off of boxrec...AND that sometimes, you leave a quick post and dont think through what you type...i.e. Whitaker at 130 :patsch and Floyd unifying 130 :patsch )!!!

I dont think there is a soul outside of yourself and fagtime (same person) that thinks you know HALF of what I know about boxing. Sorry....

[Toopretty]

You are toopretty aren't you? Why the alias?

IT aint an alias..toopretty was banned on my way again..that would make like the 4th..seems ignorance is bliss on here. you got self proclaimed boxing poster experts that run there mouth and half the shit they say is lies..cant even back shit up...throw out old names of fighters THEY look up on BOXREC..motherfuckers are like 35...lol talking about fighters they never seen...

[bigtime9]

id like to see floyd unify the welterweight Div. even tho he as ready has the ring belt, after hatton. fight the winner of cotto, mosley. Then maybe add another belt, maybe paul williams' or what not make a couple of defenses like a true champ, then he can be something really great, he should clean out the div like all the other great champs have


name these other great champions who have cleaned out divisions outside of their prime weight.

don't worry I'll wait.:deal

[Beebs]

Well at least one person recognized something I said.:lol:

[bigtime9]

And you just said Floyd unified 130.....CLASSIC

he never said that you lying fuck..he said why would dloyd need to unify 130 when he was the lineal ring champ. what a lying piece of shit:deal

[kg0208]

IT aint an alias..toopretty was banned on my way again..that would make like the 4th..seems ignorance is bliss on here. you got self proclaimed boxing poster experts that run there mouth and half the shit they say is lies..cant even back shit up...throw out old names of fighters THEY look up on BOXREC..motherfuckers are like 35...lol talking about fighters they never seen...

But you aren't backing what you say up. You don't know things about plenty of fighters and rank PBF over them.

[sues2nd]

Fuck you and your personal attacks..you aint got shit to say but try to jump on some kind of weak ass bandwagon against me..lol with WEAK posters like Sues sloppy 2nds...wow..You need to cut that gay ass shit out.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

sues sloppy 2nds....thats actually a good one. I like how I can make a quick post and have a brain fart....BUT NOT YOU OH GREAT AND WISE MASTER!!!!

And, if you are toopurty....then I have actually DEFENDED your ass in posts.....and you are KNOWN for opening your mouth and placing your foot in it.

AND GOING ON THAT POINT!!!

There is not a person ALIVE that think toopurty knows half of what I know about boxing.....not even Mamapurty....:lol:

[Toopretty]

And you just said Floyd unified 130.....CLASSIC (you do realize that some boxrec weights are not what they weighed for the fight, RIGHT??? Again, get off of boxrec...AND that sometimes, you leave a quick post and dont think through what you type...i.e. Whitaker at 130 :patsch and Floyd unifying 130 :patsch )!!!

I dont think there is a soul outside of yourself and fagtime (same person) that thinks you know HALF of what I know about boxing. Sorry....
:patsch:patsch Fuck that..I can do that too..:patsch:patsch you dont know shit..what do you..know....like I said I know boxing from every standpoint..never was proved wrong ever...arguing about this shit..is all you got...lol..it dont take know boxing knowledge to say..that this fighter will never be better then this one..comparing boxing rec...notes.LIKE YOU....and who can fuck up DURAN at 130 .....................................:patsch:patsch more of that for you weak ass

[bigtime9]

You started personal attacks. Do don't bitch about them now.

I know your moneky boy loving ass is not complaining about personal attacks..I mean that is your fig leaf:admin

[IrnBruMan]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

He dominated 154.....in one fight....vs an past his prime Oscar....in a close fight (but a clear win for Floyd....).

OH YEAH!!!! DOMINATION AT ITS FINEST!!!

:patsch

You really are the worst poster on here.

:lol:

hurhurhurhurhurhurhur!

:lol:

IMO, he never 'dominated' 135, 140 or 147 either.

4 fights @135, 3 @ 140 and 3 @ 147 doesn't = 'domination' in my book.

[IrnBruMan]

ahaha were your pic at...lol oh I forget you are a whore...I put a pic on this bitch...I want to prove that fake ass fat shit you said wrong..just b/c I dont look like fucking mutated sonic the hedgehog..like that other motherfucker..:rofl:rofl

why'd you take it down TooPurty?

Couldn't stand the heat :yep

[kg0208]

I know your moneky boy loving ass is not complaining about personal attacks..I mean that is your fig leaf:admin

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Toopretty]

Like I said.. I only get in to this bullshit on the same damned topic of a bunch of idiots whose opinion dont mean anything..lol...who are you..what are you....If floyd was top 50 by ESPN before ODH..lol..I think he will get the benefit of the doubt with 2 more wins Like I SAID IN MY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD to get up in the high ranks.

[sues2nd]

he never said that you lying fuck..he said why would dloyd need to unify 130 when he was the lineal ring champ. what a lying piece of shit:deal

Really he didnt....?

id like to see floyd unify the welterweight Div. even tho he as ready has the ring belt, after hatton. fight the winner of cotto, mosley. Then maybe add another belt, maybe paul williams' or what not make a couple of defenses like a true champ, then he can be something really great, he should clean out the div like all the other great champs have

Then he said quoted and said this....

Oh..like he did 130

Then I pointed it out and he said this....

Oh yeah I forgot..he didnt unify but defended his WBC strap that he got from the real 130 champ...But I guess that he didnt UNIFY....those ABC belts...:patsch:patsch:patsch smack your damned self

Call me crazy...but he said it.

And I love how both of your arguements are based on his title accomplishments.....yet, once the fact that he has never come close to unifying....you say that is no need for abc belts!!!

God your dumb....:patsch

[IrnBruMan]

floyd beat the wbc champ at 140 and 154..for me that is enough:deal



coming from the resident sheep fucker..:lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Backpedalling again huh?

The WBC champ at 140 and 154 does not = THE TOP GUY at 140 and 154

Stay on topic big guy :deal

[bigtime9]

IMO, he never 'dominated' 135, 140 or 147 either.

4 fights @135, 3 @ 140 and 3 @ 147 doesn't = 'domination' in my book.

did duran dominate outside of 135.

don't worry I'll wait:deal

[kg0208]

Like I said.. I only get in to this bullshit on the same damned topic of a bunch of idiots whose opinion dont mean anything..lol...who are you..what are you....If floyd was top 50 by ESPN before ODH..lol..I think he will get the benefit of the doubt with 2 more wins Like I SAID IN MY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD to get up in the high ranks.

ESPN doesn't cover boxing like Ring does. And he wasn't even top 80 on their list a few years back. Beating Gatti, Judah, Baldomir and DLH won't have put him in the top 50.

Besides, that list was all fucked up. Even other ESPN analysts bagged on it:deal

[Toopretty]

why'd you take it down TooPurty?

Couldn't stand the heat :yep

Man..I aint got it in me..I find it funny one guy that is mad at me cause I called him Peewee herman on roids..one guy actually had me post a pic on here to prove I was not some skinny white boy .or whatever..One guy claims to know more boxing then pretty much anyone...lol....And I am actually entertaining this shit... That was a one time only thing ...spur of the moment...I dont make a habit of posting pics on the web..as you could plainly see..

[sues2nd]

:patsch:patsch Fuck that..I can do that too..:patsch:patsch you dont know shit..what do you..know....like I said I know boxing from every standpoint..never was proved wrong ever...arguing about this shit..is all you got...lol..it dont take know boxing knowledge to say..that this fighter will never be better then this one..comparing boxing rec...notes.LIKE YOU....and who can fuck up DURAN at 130 .....................................:patsch:patsch more of that for you weak ass

Is that even english? Use punctuation correctly....(<---the correct usage) when people can understand you, your point comes across better.

I did get one thing out of this.

like I said I know boxing from every standpoint..never was proved wrong ever

Oh yeah I forgot..he didnt unify but defended his WBC strap that he got from the real 130 champ...But I guess that he didnt UNIFY....those ABC belts...:patsch:patsch:patsch smack your damned self

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigtime9]

And I love how both of your arguements are based on his title accomplishments.....yet, once the fact that he has never come close to unifying....you say that is no need for abc belts!!!


why would the lineal recognized champ need to unify..get real your argument was what again. answer this question who would be favored over floyd from 154-130.

[sues2nd]

why would the lineal recognized champ need to unify..get real your argument was what again. answer this question who would be favored over floyd from 154-130.

Right now? And how do you mean favored? By the media and media pubs? Or by actual boxing fans?

[IrnBruMan]

did duran dominate outside of 135.

don't worry I'll wait:deal

Wrong thread dummy :deal :hat

[bigtime9]

ESPN doesn't cover boxing like Ring does. And he wasn't even top 80 on their list a few years back. Beating Gatti, Judah, Baldomir and DLH won't have put him in the top 50.


of course not his career wasn't over yet. no way ring would have ranked him top 80 with 5 years experience:nut

[Toopretty]

Really he didnt....?



Then he said quoted and said this....



Then I pointed it out and he said this....



Call me crazy...but he said it.

And I love how both of your arguements are based on his title accomplishments.....yet, once the fact that he has never come close to unifying....you say that is no need for abc belts!!!


God your dumb....:patsch

No cunt you are dumb...post the WHOLE post to get the content..I was getting on your pathetic ass for always crying about those ABC titles but are knocking the fact that Floyd was the best at 130 which is what I was fucking saying no need to unify...I dont give a shit about unifying never did...dont mean shit...I go by lineage HISTORY..lol

You got one breed of faggot saying that oh...all these alphabet titles..lol the same breed talk shit about not unifying...classic..Oh yeah I forgot..he didnt unify but defended his WBC strap that he got from the real 130 champ...But I guess that he didnt UNIFY....those ABC belts...

[IrnBruMan]

Man..I aint got it in me..I find it funny one guy that is mad at me cause I called him Peewee herman on roids..one guy actually had me post a pic on here to prove I was not some skinny white boy .or whatever..One guy claims to know more boxing then pretty much anyone...lol....And I am actually entertaining this shit... That was a one time only thing ...spur of the moment...I dont make a habit of posting pics on the web..as you could plainly see..

So you gutted out :lol:

Fag :hi:

[nickthegreek]

did duran dominate outside of 135.

don't worry I'll wait:deal

Nobody is saying he did :huh

You have claimed that Mayweather has dominated every division he has passed through.

130 Yes
135 Maybe
140 Hell no!
147 No
154 Again, hell no!

You have to be a wind up. Nobody is this stupid.

[bigtime9]

Right now? And how do you mean favored? By the media and media pubs? Or by actual boxing fans?

by the bookies in las vegas shit for brains:nut

[C Money]

name these other great champions who have cleaned out divisions outside of their prime weight.

don't worry I'll wait.:deal

SRR, Sam Langford, Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong, there's many old timers:yep


Yet? FLOYD HASNT UNIFIED ANY DIVISION EVER!!! He's insisting on fighting Hatton at 47 when if he'd agreed to 40?? He could have finally unfied!!

Since Floyd's drawn the line in the sand at 47?? The call is for him TO UNIFY/ FACE THE BEST!!


Jesus, Bitchtime, I'm lumping you so hard this evening, its UNFAIR.

:lol:

[MSTR]

Fuck you and your personal attacks..you aint got shit to say but try to jump on some kind of weak ass bandwagon against me..lol with WEAK posters like Sues sloppy 2nds...wow..You need to cut that gay ass shit out.
But you have totally avoided all the points thrown at you about his competition. And you started with the personal attacks. You wouldn't have everyone against you if you didn't start with your childish insults. But thats all you have I guess, no substance. BTW, some people (not you obviously) actually watch footage of older fighers, which puts victories into perspective. I actually think modern fighters are more talented (my opinon) but on resume floyd can't compete with many guys. You based a lot of your post on nothing.

[sues2nd]

of course not his career wasn't over yet. no way ring would have ranked him top 80 with 5 years experience:nut

ESPNs list was a joke. Lets just leave it at that.

[kg0208]

of course not his career wasn't over yet. no way ring would have ranked him top 80 with 5 years experience:nut

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[MSTR]

So you gutted out :lol:

Fag :hi:
Exactly.

[bigtime9]

You have claimed that Mayweather has dominated every division he has passed through.

130 Yes
135 Maybe
140 Hell no!
147 No
154 Again, hell no!

You have to be a wind up. Nobody is this stupid.

once again who would have been favored to beat floyd at 140, what about 147, and 154. and stay on topic hamburger don't go picking guys who fought 30 years ago:lol:

[MSTR]

As a final note, If Mayweather even beats hatton and then Cotto, whilst both solid wins, it still won't compare to beating other TOP ATG's like others have done, which is needed to make the top 10. Thats what we are pointing out.

[sues2nd]

by the bookies in las vegas shit for brains:nut

:lol: :lol:

So the bookies in Vegas had Tito a 3-1 (by fighttime...it was actually much higher) favorite over Hopkins....how'd that turn out?

Who the fuck goes by the Vegas odds for a measure of how great a fighter someone is.

God your dumb.

:patsch

[bigtime9]

ESPNs list was a joke. Lets just leave it at that.

I agree duran top 5 fucking bull shit. beating moore, and barkely and quitting against ray don't make you top 5 all time not by a long shot.:lol:

[Toopretty]

Exactly.

:rofl:rofl:nut

Ok..so if I post a pic..EVERYBODY GOT TO POST A PIC..lol...what the hell is this shit:rofl:rofl I aint got shit to prove to you...I dont like that retarded ass fat comment b/c I aint fat..that is ridiculous... I aint chopped up anymore but I am in the off season.

[sues2nd]

:lol: :lol:

So the bookies in Vegas had Tito a 3-1 (by fighttime...it was actually much higher) favorite over Hopkins....how'd that turn out?

Who the fuck goes by the Vegas odds for a measure of how great a fighter someone is.

God your dumb.

:patsch

HELL, Evander was a 14-1 underdog for the first Tyson fight. What point is your warped mind trying to make here?

[C Money]

Nobody is saying he did :huh

You have claimed that Mayweather has dominated every division he has passed through.

130 Yes
135 Maybe
140 Hell no!
147 No
154 Again, hell no!

You have to be a wind up. Nobody is this stupid.

BTW, Floyd didnt DOMINATE 130 either!!

during the 99/00 period PBF, Corrales, Casamayor, And Freitas had the big four belts.

Floyd left Casa and Freitas on the table and made absolutel NO MENTION OR INTENTION towards either.

ALso?? When did Floyd CHOOSE TO FIGHT Corrales??

Right after word was out Chico wasnt right and was FACING INCARCERATION. No excuses, Floyd won, but he has a disgusting habit of trying to manipulate the circumstances in his favor.

He's insisted on hatton at 47 instead of 40!!! yet at least he's no going to jail or having sobriety issues

[Beebs]

why would the lineal recognized champ need to unify..get real your argument was what again. answer this question who would be favored over floyd from 154-130.

Lineal champ is nice, but it is not always the more impressive or equal accomplishment compared to unification, especially with weights with guys jumping around alot. It was at least as impressive for Floyd to win an, admitedly joke of, a unification fight with Zab than his lineal win over Baldo, especially with the recent performances of both fighters.

This obviously is the exception, but lineal champ is not always harder than unification or even partial unification.

[nickthegreek]

once again who would have been favored to beat floyd at 140, what about 147, and 154. and stay on topic hamburger don't go picking guys who fought 30 years ago:lol:

I haven't claimed that anybody could beat him at any of the weights above. We simply don't know because he skipped the best fighters at 140, 147 and DLH is definitly not the best fighter at 154.

[Toopretty]

MSTR and Muttley are out for my blood...lol..these guys want to do me with no vaseline...lol...Especially Muttley...lol

[IrnBruMan]

:rofl:rofl:nut

Ok..so if I post a pic..EVERYBODY GOT TO POST A PIC..lol...what the hell is this shit:rofl:rofl I aint got shit to prove to you...I dont like that retarded ass fat comment b/c I aint fat..that is ridiculous... I aint chopped up anymore but I am in the off season.

9 month long 'off-season' :lol:

You got bitch tits ghetto boy

[Toopretty]

I told somebody today that I was called fat...and they broke down laughing..I have never been fat in all my life but when I was 2..lol I am referred to as skinny if anything..must be an american thing..

[thesandman]

floyd beat the wbc champ at 140 and 154..for me that is enough:deal

You are an asshat.

You are aware of how Gatti got the 140 belt right?
And Oscar, only having to fight Mayorga for the 154?

But earlier on, another Floydboy said something like

"Oh, Virgil Hill was WBA LHW champ, wow".

Virgil Hill is a far and away better fighter than Gatti was when Gatti was given, sorry, won the WBC 140 belt.

[Toopretty]

9 month long 'off-season' :lol:

You got bitch tits ghetto boy


Oh you did it...lol..............you asshole..starting rumors and shit..I want to take a poll on this shit..NO HOMO..but for real..that is ridiculous..you fucking liar....

[IrnBruMan]

MSTR and Muttley are out for my blood...lol..these guys want to do me with no vaseline...lol...Especially Muttley...lol

Wishful thinking buddy :lol:

Why'd you take your pic down? Was it because you copped so much shit for it?

MSTR never took his pic down after you sprayed him.

Gutless cunt you are, OG muthafucka, a'iight :yep

[sues2nd]

Lineal champ is nice, but it is not always the more impressive or equal accomplishment compared to unification, especially with weights with guys jumping around alot. It was at least as impressive for Floyd to win an, admitedly joke of, a unification fight with Zab than his lineal win over Baldo, especially with the recent performances of both fighters.

This obviously is the exception, but lineal champ is not always harder than unification or even partial unification.

Thank you. :good

(be ready for the whole "who needs the abc trinkets...now how about the 5 titles in 5 weight classes" thing :lol: . Can these guys even be consistant.)

And I love how, because we think its insane to put their fighter in the top ten all time (and gave some compelling arguements why we wouldnt....) that we are cunts and jackasses. FANTASTIC DEBATING SKILLS!!!

[IrnBruMan]

I told somebody today that I was called fat...and they broke down laughing..I have never been fat in all my life but when I was 2..lol I am referred to as skinny if anything..must be an american thing..

Yeah, or a ghetto thang :lol:

[kg0208]

You are an asshat.

You are aware of how Gatti got the 140 belt right?
And Oscar, only having to fight Mayorga for the 154?

But earlier on, another Floydboy said something like

"Oh, Virgil Hill was WBA LHW champ, wow".

Virgil Hill is a far and away better fighter than Gatti was when Gatti was given, sorry, won the WBC 140 belt.

Look, we agreed on something. :deal

Can you please explain to some of these folks that Hill while not an ATG was the man at LHW for a long time and that a win over him for Hearns at LHW is impressive?

[IrnBruMan]

Oh you did it...lol..............you asshole..starting rumors and shit..I want to take a poll on this shit..NO HOMO..but for real..that is ridiculous..you fucking liar....

Go on then, repost your pic and start a poll :hat

[Toopretty]

Wishful thinking buddy :lol:

Why'd you take your pic down? Was it because you copped so much shit for it?

MSTR never took his pic down after you sprayed him.

Gutless cunt you are, OG muthafucka, a'iight :yepNah..I dont post my pic on the fucking web...as does many...that is not cool......but since you say I got man tittys I got to thrash you..with proof...Toopretty aka ...prettyboy..aka....Shiftygrits...will be back.

[kg0208]

Nah..I dont post my pic on the fucking web...as does many...that is not cool......but since you say I got man tittys I got to thrash you..with proof...Toopretty aka ...prettyboy..aka....Shiftygrits...will be back.

Wha:yikes

[IrnBruMan]

Nah..I dont post my pic on the fucking web...as does many...that is not cool......but since you say I got man tittys I got to thrash you..with proof...Toopretty aka ...prettyboy..aka....Shiftygrits...will be back.

:admin

I'm shaking in my hightop airforce uptowns :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Toopretty]

Go on then, repost your pic and start a poll :hat

You are an extreme antagonist..lol..

[Toopretty]

Wha:yikes

This clown called my pecs man boobs..that was hilarious ...sounds kind of homo but it was an invalid insult..they were just mad b/c I was getting on MSTR...

[bigtime9]

You are an asshat.

You are aware of how Gatti got the 140 belt right?
And Oscar, only having to fight Mayorga for the 154?



are you saying they didn't win their titles:deal because at the end of the day that is what matters. they won their belts they weren't given to them

But earlier on, another Floydboy said something like

"Oh, Virgil Hill was WBA LHW champ, wow".

Virgil Hill is a far and away better fighter than Gatti was when Gatti was given, sorry, won the WBC 140 belt.

gatti is one fighter on floyds ledger. if gatti was so sorry why did the ring rank him #1 at the time..you don't know shit buddy.:lol:

[Toopretty]

:admin

I'm shaking in my hightop airforce uptowns :rofl :rofl :rofl

You get kicks out of this shit...you hate ghettoness......I get it..but dont you got to admit..you are just a little bit....judgmental....:? If you dont understand my way of thinking OK..I dont understand yours....Ok..but you like to try to thrash and humiliate...seems like somebody got issues..

[sues2nd]

This clown called my pecs man boobs..that was hilarious ...sounds kind of homo but it was an invalid insult..they were just mad b/c I was getting on MSTR...

YOU GOT MAN BOOOOOBIES???

:admin

That sucks....you know they make implants for men now right?

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

:good

[Toopretty]

YOU GOT MAN BOOOOOBIES???

:admin

That sucks....you know they make implants for men now right?

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

:good

Oh no..not you...no.....Muttley has acheived his goal..spread rumors and now got the girls gossiping.....lol

[bigtime9]

I haven't claimed that anybody could beat him at any of the weights above

of course you didn't no one is that stupid...not even sues2nd would bet against floyd. I'm sure he learned his lesson in the corrales fight.:deal

[Toopretty]

new poll thread coming to the lounge....

[sues2nd]

of course you didn't no one is that stupid...not even sues2nd would bet against floyd. I'm sure he learned his lesson in the corrales fight.:deal

Actually I felt Floyd would win....and we all know I love Chico ( :| ). He was coming out of jail and was going through alot. But with that said, I dont see Chico ever beating Floyd (tho admittingly, the fight wouldnt have been as one sided.....but alas...).

Now if you want my honest opinion. The fighter with the best chance to beat Floyd is Williams. He is BIG (a HUGE reach advantage). He has a great jab (something that has troubled Floyd in the past). He is fast (not as fast as Floyd, but wouldnt be at a disadvantage either). He has pop (keeping Floyd honest and at bay on the outside). He is a RIDICULOUSLY HIGH VOLUME PUNCHER (could easily outwork Floyd....much like Oscar failed to do, but kept it close by doing).

I would bet A HELL OF ALOT on Williams if this fight came off. But Floyd is smart, he fights fights, he knows he can win. And this one, I just dont see it happening.

I do think he beats Cotto, Cintron, Margarito and Hatton tho. Mosely and Spinks would give him a tough night tho (I would slightly favor Floyd over Cory and the Shane fight would be a pickem.).

[bigtime9]

but you like to try to thrash and humiliate...seems like somebody got issues..

don't mind muttley like any wild beast he just needs something to eat to tame him:deal

[MSTR]

:rofl:rofl:nut

Ok..so if I post a pic..EVERYBODY GOT TO POST A PIC..lol...what the hell is this shit:rofl:rofl I aint got shit to prove to you...I dont like that retarded ass fat comment b/c I aint fat..that is ridiculous... I aint chopped up anymore but I am in the off season.
You talked yourself up like some hard arse thug, when in reality you have NOTHING. That was the point. You can't take what you give out bitch tits.

[IrnBruMan]

You get kicks out of this shit...you hate ghettoness......I get it..but dont you got to admit..you are just a little bit....judgmental....:? If you dont understand my way of thinking OK..I dont understand yours....Ok..but you like to try to thrash and humiliate...seems like somebody got issues..

Naw man, I just don't buy into internet bullshit artists like you

[IrnBruMan]

new poll thread coming to the lounge....

STFU attention whore

[IrnBruMan]

You talked yourself up like some hard arse thug, when in reality you have NOTHING. That was the point. You can't take what you give out bitch tits.

:lol: 100%

[kg0208]

I am top 3 P4P.....I have never lost a fight and therefore you can't say anyone can beat me cuz you can't prove they can.:deal

I am the best EVER!!!

[IrnBruMan]

don't mind muttley like any wild beast he just needs something to eat to tame him:deal

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Give it up clowntown, your replies are getting weaker and weaker

Roll your wheelchair away from the computer and go get some fresh air - downsyndrome people like yourself don't have a great life-expectancy, make the most of your time on earth instead of arguing in circles on an internet forum :hat

[sues2nd]

I am top 3 P4P.....I have never lost a fight and therefore you can't say anyone can beat me cuz you can't prove they can.:deal

I am the best EVER!!!

Me too....a few months back, I even fought this bigger dude and won after a club...does that count as moving up in weight?

IM A TWO DIVISION CHAMP BABY!!!!

:lol:

[bigtime9]

I am top 3 P4P.....I have never lost a fight and therefore you can't say anyone can beat me cuz you can't prove they can.:deal

I am the best EVER!!!


get a job you fucking bum and quit living off your parents. now you're getting delusions of grandeur, that's what a bigtime9 mindfuck will do to you:thumbsup just ask no-money about his golden gloves titles:lol:

[sues2nd]

get a job you fucking bum and quit living off your parents. now you're getting delusions of grandeur, that's what a bigtime9 mindfuck will do to you:thumbsup just ask no-money about his golden gloves titles:lol:

Ummm, still waiting for your retort on the Floyd - Williams thing.

[bigtime9]

Give it up clowntown, your replies are getting weaker and weaker


sure thing my little beastling, just as soon as I put your ass back in my cage:deal

[kg0208]

Me too....a few months back, I even fought this bigger dude and won after a club...does that count as moving up in weight?

IM A TWO DIVISION CHAMP BABY!!!!

:lol:

Damn....and I only got the one title! I would tell you what weight class I'm in and who I am but I don't want to give away my secret.

I can tell you I was a NCAA Boxing Champion....went to the same school as Bigtime did when he got his 5 masters degrees. They named a building after me:deal

[kg0208]

get a job you fucking bum and quit living off your parents. now you're getting delusions of grandeur, that's what a bigtime9 mindfuck will do to you:thumbsup just ask no-money about his golden gloves titles:lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

He is talking about himself in 3rd person on the internet.

KG pities the fool!

[Toopretty]

:lol: 100%

LOL bitch ...Now you gone over the top..what the fuck being a thug got to do with muscles......:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:patsch I can go in any hood anytime and do me....I aint no clown dude that works out all the time..looking all stressed out..I got nice crib..nice car....clothes..GIRLS...respect for days.....fuck is you talking about..b/c I aint no ugly ***** with busted chops and war scars( got a couple of those anyway)..... But you gays are funny...Internet thug..bitch..I am me..everything I said I do I do...If I talk about airs...or old school tennis from back in the day..that is what it is..If I live in bmore..IN THE HOOD..I do....the fuck out here. I post my pic and I am still talking shit.....and......you aint pull my card.... :hey

[sues2nd]

Damn....and I only got the one title! I would tell you what weight class I'm in and who I am but I don't want to give away my secret.

I can tell you I was a NCAA Boxing Champion....went to the same school as Bigtime did when he got his 5 masters degrees. They named a building after me:deal

Well, I beat the number 1 guy in both divisions. The first was ranked #4 by ring and the second was #2. YEP the top guy in both divisions.

Oh and what school, I think I may be teaching their next year?

:lol:

[Toopretty]

I guess I got to ice grill in the pic..lol like a fake thug...I had to put on my gold fronts and chain and fitted...lol...and take a picture of me throwing bones...like the original judah fight thread....

[kg0208]

Well, I beat the number 1 guy in both divisions. The first was ranked #4 by ring and the second was #2. YEP the top guy in both divisions.

Oh and what school, I think I may be teaching their next year?

:lol:

Then you know we can't talk about the school man.

But I'll meet you on the Hogwarts express and me and Harry Potter will explain the whole thing to ya:deal

[sues2nd]

Then you know we can't talk about the school man.

But I'll meet you on the Hogwarts express and me and Harry Potter will explain the whole thing to ya:deal

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[IrnBruMan]

sure thing my little beastling, just as soon as I put your ass back in my cage:deal

:lol:

You're a tripper - you've been sonned from pillar to post and you're still too dumb to cut your losses and give it up :rofl

Don't go changing clowntown :lol:

:hat

[IrnBruMan]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

He is talking about himself in 3rd person on the internet.

KG pities the fool!

:lol:

[sues2nd]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

He is talking about himself in 3rd person on the internet.

KG pities the fool!

OH GOD HOW DID SUES MISS THAT ONE!!!

SUES THINKS THAT IS CLASSIC!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

LOL bitch ...Now you gone over the top..what the fuck being a thug got to do with muscles......:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:patsch I can go in any hood anytime and do me....I aint no clown dude that works out all the time..looking all stressed out..I got nice crib..nice car....clothes..GIRLS...respect for days.....fuck is you talking about..b/c I aint no ugly ***** with busted chops and war scars( got a couple of those anyway)..... But you gays are funny...Internet thug..bitch..I am me..everything I said I do I do...If I talk about airs...or old school tennis from back in the day..that is what it is..If I live in bmore..IN THE HOOD..I do....the fuck out here. I post my pic and I am still talking shit.....and......you aint pull my card.... :hey

You bagged MSTR out and said you were bigger and more built than him, then you posted a pic of this toothpick looking greymeat motherfucker with a bathtowel around his waist :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Toopretty]

I am this.. I am a guy..that grew up in EAST Baltimore....down-the-hill as it is called..go outside the house it is night of the living dead..and went out and played in the middle of the shit like all the other so called little hoodlings. I went to bad schools got in fights regularly over bullshit neighberhood beefs even though it would be with another group 7 blocks away which is comical as you look back...you come out the house and take a few steps and its on...lol anyway...I was always smart..went on to a good high school POLY..if you live here you know the school...went to Morgan state a few sems. Never really got into selling drugs b/c I never really had too. I was not broke as shit raising myself as some...a lot...I am like the last of the mohicans out of my clan of friends..we were like borderline..we were not goodie dudes but we just didnt sell drugs..but we had no fear of dealers b/c we fucking knew all of them and grew up with them...and selling dont make you hard at all...you get attention from the hoodrats..but thats about it. You idiots act like you know what a THUG looks like..lol HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A THUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living in Australia....................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[TBooze]

what else would he have to prove >?

There is no redemption, there is no great moments in boxing history, there is no danger in his career and there have be no great rivalries.

Lil Floyd has a long way to go if he wants to be great, and mountain may be too steep already if he wants to be top three ever.

But Hatton is a step in the right direction, but just another step in a long journey IMO.

[IrnBruMan]

I guess I got to ice grill in the pic..lol like a fake thug...I had to put on my gold fronts and chain and fitted...lol...and take a picture of me throwing bones...like the original judah fight thread....

Or you could post a pic of yourself wearing an oversized white t-shirt, baseball cap, lot$ of bling, hands outstretched with fingers bent at weird angles, and platinum teef.

It'd have to be more effective than telling everyone on an internet forum how ghetto-tough you are? :lol:

[Toopretty]

You bagged MSTR out and said you were bigger and more built than him, then you posted a pic of this toothpick looking greymeat motherfucker with a bathtowel around his waist :rofl :rofl :rofl

I never said more built I said and I will back this up..and I am bigger then his little ass. he say he 6'0 but look like he 5'7 I am 6'2 190 pounds... Now how can I be a tooth pick and fat..lol funny

[IrnBruMan]

I am this.. I am a guy..that grew up in EAST Baltimore....down-the-hill as it is called..go outside the house it is night of the living dead..and went out and played in the middle of the shit like all the other so called little hoodlings. I went to bad schools got in fights regularly over bullshit neighberhood beefs even though it would be with another group 7 blocks away which is comical as you look back...you come out the house and take a few steps and its on...lol anyway...I was always smart..went on to a good high school POLY..if you live here you know the school...went to Morgan state a few sems. Never really got into selling drugs b/c I never really had too. I was not broke as shit raising myself as some...a lot...I am like the last of the mohicans out of my clan of friends..we were like borderline..we were not goodie dudes but we just didnt sell drugs..but we had no fear of dealers b/c we fucking knew all of them and grew up with them...and selling dont make you hard at all...you get attention from the hoodrats..but thats about it. You idiots act like you know what a THUG looks like..lol HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A THUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living in Australia....................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You 100% keeee-rect G...we don't gots thugs in Australia G :rofl

[IrnBruMan]

I never said more built I said and I will back this up..and I am bigger then his little ass. he say he 6'0 but look like he 5'7 I am 6'2 190 pounds... Now how can I be a tooth pick and fat..lol funny

toothpick arms

sunken chest

manboobs

:lol:

[kg0208]

I am this.. I am a guy..that grew up in EAST Baltimore....down-the-hill as it is called..go outside the house it is night of the living dead..and went out and played in the middle of the shit like all the other so called little hoodlings. I went to bad schools got in fights regularly over bullshit neighberhood beefs even though it would be with another group 7 blocks away which is comical as you look back...you come out the house and take a few steps and its on...lol anyway...I was always smart..went on to a good high school POLY..if you live here you know the school...went to Morgan state a few sems. Never really got into selling drugs b/c I never really had too. I was not broke as shit raising myself as some...a lot...I am like the last of the mohicans out of my clan of friends..we were like borderline..we were not goodie dudes but we just didnt sell drugs..but we had no fear of dealers b/c we fucking knew all of them and grew up with them...and selling dont make you hard at all...you get attention from the hoodrats..but thats about it. You idiots act like you know what a THUG looks like..lol HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A THUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living in Australia....................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


With the shit that lives in Australia, they don't need thugs.

And why would you be proud of being a thug?

[sues2nd]

I am this.. I am a guy..that grew up in EAST Baltimore....down-the-hill as it is called..go outside the house it is night of the living dead..and went out and played in the middle of the shit like all the other so called little hoodlings. I went to bad schools got in fights regularly over bullshit neighberhood beefs even though it would be with another group 7 blocks away which is comical as you look back...you come out the house and take a few steps and its on...lol anyway...I was always smart..went on to a good high school POLY..if you live here you know the school...went to Morgan state a few sems. Never really got into selling drugs b/c I never really had too. I was not broke as shit raising myself as some...a lot...I am like the last of the mohicans out of my clan of friends..we were like borderline..we were not goodie dudes but we just didnt sell drugs..but we had no fear of dealers b/c we fucking knew all of them and grew up with them...and selling dont make you hard at all...you get attention from the hoodrats..but thats about it. You idiots act like you know what a THUG looks like..lol HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A THUG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>living in Australia....................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I guess this explains the bad punctuation. The insulting tone. The bitch tits. And the fact that he doesnt realize that Australia was used as a penal colony for Britain (meaning the "thugs" were taken from jails and sent to the island to live)...many Aussies are direct decendants of THUGS!

And BTW, I grew up in "the hood". I went to subpar schools. I got into fights regularly. I have many friends/family that will never see the light of day....who are locked up for livin that "thug life". But I had a talent that got me out. And I left that shit behind where its supposed to be. Thug isnt a look, or a way of life....its a fuckin mistake. I know exactly what a thug is.....and looks like.

AND YES!!! SOME OF THEM PROBABLY HAVE BITCH TITS!!!!

;)

[Toopretty]

713

Ok ............................................is this a fat man..........do you see man titties...this is me moving into my house :rasta

[Toopretty]

Oh I never in one sentence in any post EVER say I was a thug..You are a clown if you call yourself a thug..I sunken chest..lol....I would whoop your ass probably.. man tits..pecs are tits not o

[IrnBruMan]

713

Ok ............................................is this a fat man..........do you see man titties...this is me moving into my house :rasta

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, from that angle, you look more like a pasty greymeat toothpick-armed motherfucker :rofl

You ain't scary at all :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

Oh I never in one sentence in any post EVER say I was a thug..You are a clown if you call yourself a thug..I sunken chest..lol....I would whoop your ass probably.. man tits..pecs are tits not o

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Toopretty]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, from that angle, you look more like a pasty greymeat toothpick-armed motherfucker :rofl

You ain't scary at all :lol:

Bitch who said scary..lol:nut:nut you said fat and man titties..I just proved your bullshit lies..the fuck am I supposed scare..the hell are you talking about:patsch

[Beebs]

Marco Antonio Barerra was upper middle class and almost a lawyer living a pretty sheltered life.

Being actually tough has little to do with genetics, very very little do with geography, and almost everything to do with the choices you make.

Unless anybody here is tougher or is familiar with people tougher than MAB, drop this stupid topic.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Oh I never in one sentence in any post EVER say I was a thug..You are a clown if you call yourself a thug..I sunken chest..lol....I would whoop your ass probably.. man tits..pecs are tits not o

:lol:

What a idiot....probably...:nut

[kg0208]

Oh I never in one sentence in any post EVER say I was a thug..You are a clown if you call yourself a thug..I sunken chest..lol....I would whoop your ass probably.. man tits..pecs are tits not o
You would whoop my ass?

People who can whoop your ass don't go around telling you. They are trying to convince themselves not you. Any one who has ever been to county will tell you its the quiet ones you look out for, not the loud mouth talking shit.

[Toopretty]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol::lol::lol: just b/c you are some big cactus jack..dont mean shit. Like I said. I train I spar....I can actually box...and fight..lol...I been there done that..who are you..

[IrnBruMan]

Bitch who said scary..lol:nut:nut you said fat and man titties..I just proved your bullshit lies..the fuck am I supposed scare..the hell are you talking about:patsch

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You care enough to be posting pix of yourself :rofl

[sues2nd]

Marco Antonio Barerra was upper middle class and almost a lawyer living a pretty sheltered life.

Being actually tough has little to do with genetics, very very little do with geography, and almost everything to do with the choices you make.

Unless anybody here is tougher or is familiar with people tougher than MAB, drop this stupid topic.

I would fuck MAB up....Im a two division champ....aint you been reading????

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Sorry, couldnt help myself. Good post bro.

:good

(now Im going to bed....I gotta work in the AM...:tired )

[IrnBruMan]

:lol::lol::lol: just b/c you are some big cactus jack..dont mean shit. Like I said. I train I spar....I can actually box...and fight..lol...I been there done that..who are you..

I'm muttley, you blind dumb motherfucker :lol:

[Toopretty]

You would whoop my ass?

People who can whoop your ass don't go around telling you. They are trying to convince themselves not you. Any one who has ever been to county will tell you its the quiet ones you look out for, not the loud mouth talking shit.

Thats why I said probably..only b/c this clown is insulting..pasty..I never heard a black person get referred to as this..I aint talking internet tough shit..lol they said I was fat...b/c I didnt look like MSTR whatever. but I am trim and normal looking. Like I am vicious boxer 77 or something..:patsch

[IrnBruMan]

Thats why I said probably..only b/c this clown is insulting..pasty..I never heard a black person get referred to as this..I aint talking internet tough shit..lol they said I was fat...b/c I didnt look like MSTR whatever. but I am trim and normal looking. Like I am vicious boxer 77 or something..:patsch

You're black? :admin

[Lance_Uppercut]

:lol::lol::lol: just b/c you are some big cactus jack..dont mean shit. Like I said. I train I spar....I can actually box...and fight..lol...I been there done that..who are you..

ANd you have a 11" dick, fucks only models, and makes 500K a year right? :lol::lol:

[Toopretty]

I'm muttley, you blind dumb motherfucker :lol:

You tricked me you manipulative asshole...Ok....whatever...Like I said you was in this shit to crack slick no matter what I looked like...Shit you aint going to have anything positive to say....fuck you.....I just wanted to disprove the man tittie and fat crazy rumor as I am the opposite..skinny if anything....:nut:nut wacko...

[IrnBruMan]

ANd you have a 11" dick, fucks only models, and makes 500K a year right? :lol::lol:

:lol:

[Toopretty]

You guys man...you treat me like I said I got 5 degrees.. or whatever. I am real I dont lie about shit........If thats what all this jucking and jiving is about then thats fucked up..You dont like me that much to try to make me out to be some fony or something..what am I fony about..nothing...I truly dont get it...I talk shit..so..many do..and .....thats just me..if you we were talking in person I probably wouldnt as brash and more friendly but you assholes......

[kg0208]

Thats why I said probably..only b/c this clown is insulting..pasty..I never heard a black person get referred to as this..I aint talking internet tough shit..lol they said I was fat...b/c I didnt look like MSTR whatever. but I am trim and normal looking. Like I am vicious boxer 77 or something..:patsch
I didn't say a damned thing about you.

I don't care if you can or can't whoop my ass.

I only fight if someone is after my wife, and if thats the case, you don't have to worry about a fight. I would just shoot you. I don't take chances.

[Toopretty]

I didn't say a damned thing about you.

I don't care if you can or can't whoop my ass.

I only fight if someone is after my wife, and if thats the case, you don't have to worry about a fight. I would just shoot you. I don't take chances.

:rofl:rofl

[kg0208]

:rofl:rofl

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[sues2nd]

You guys man...you treat me like I said I got 5 degrees.. or whatever. I am real I dont lie about shit........If thats what all this jucking and jiving is about then thats fucked up..You dont like me that much to try to make me out to be some fony or something..what am I fony about..nothing...I truly dont get it...I talk shit..so..many do..and .....thats just me..if you we were talking in person I probably wouldnt as brash and more friendly but you assholes......

Did you just say jucking and jiving???? Ok, I officially have to go to bed now....THAT IS MY CUE!!!!

:hi:

[Toopretty]

That damned muttley....his ass never like me from the jump..he is an antagonist and a damned good one..I got thick skin but he manipulates stuff to be something it is not...

[kg0208]

That damned muttley....his ass never like me from the jump..he is an antagonist and a damned good one..I got thick skin but he manipulates stuff to be something it is not...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Toopretty]

Did you just say jucking and jiving???? Ok, I officially have to go to bed now....THAT IS MY CUE!!!!

:hi:

It was meant to be funny......me too. Im out..that damned muttley...

[IrnBruMan]

That damned muttley....his ass never like me from the jump..he is an antagonist and a damned good one..I got thick skin but he manipulates stuff to be something it is not...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Toopretty]

Last question of the night...DO I HAVE MAN BOOBS..that shit blew my mind...not even close....you can crack on my thin arms that dont match my torso..but thats about it...:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Toopretty]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

yeah enjoy........:(

[sues2nd]

Last question of the night...DO I HAVE MAN BOOBS..that shit blew my mind...not even close....you can crack on my thin arms that dont match my torso..but thats about it...:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish I had man boobs...hell I wouldnt leave the house. I can see it now.

"Honey, you going to work" - The Wife

Me staring up from the mirror....

"Why, I have all I need here" - Me

As I slowly turn back to the mirror and cup them subtly.




















And now I officially know I am overtired!!!

GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY!!!!

:rofl :rofl :rofl

[kg0208]

I wish I had man boobs...hell I wouldnt leave the house. I can see it now.

"Honey, you going to work" - The Wife

Me staring up from the mirror....

"Why, I have all I need here" - Me

As I slowly turn back to the mirror and cup them subtly.




















And now I officially know I am overtired!!!

GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY!!!!

:rofl :rofl :rofl

AHHHHH, the horror!!!

[MSTR]

Last question of the night...DO I HAVE MAN BOOBS..that shit blew my mind...not even close....you can crack on my thin arms that dont match my torso..but thats about it...:lol: :lol: :lol:
The pic you posted was a newer one. You had saggy little boobs bitch. little piss weak c*nt you are. More time at the gym less on the internet bitch.

[Toopretty]

The pic you posted was a newer one. You had saggy little boobs bitch. little piss weak c*nt you are. More time at the gym less on the internet bitch.

You are :nut:nut:nut

[Toopretty]

The pic you posted was a newer one. You had saggy little boobs bitch. little piss weak c*nt you are. More time at the gym less on the internet bitch.

Yeah you got me..this was just a few months ago....:nut:nut:nut:nut and no stop fucking lying....damn.

[Toopretty]

The pic you posted was a newer one. You had saggy little boobs bitch. little piss weak c*nt you are. More time at the gym less on the internet bitch.

Man you really need to get over that shit....seems like you are trying to keep this shit with me going.....:-(

[IrnBruMan]

Man you really need to get over that shit....seems like you are trying to keep this shit with me going.....:-(

You're the one who posted 3 seperate replies to a single one of MSTR's posts :patsch

[PATSYS]

If he beats Hatton and retires, several years from now I might rank him within top 15, maybe even top 10.

A fighter's legacy has been proven to increase as years pass rom their retirement.

And when that time comes, I will not be surprised if anyone insist that he is top 3.