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nrgetic
09-07-2007, 11:58 AM
I am big fan of Kessler but I think Calzaghe has the right to be a strong favourite

Kessler by Points


Calzaghe is not big enough to hold and hit Kessler as he has done with other opponents
Calzaghe will be more cautious against Kessler because Kessler has the power to damage Calzaghe and the jab to punish Calzaghe on the way in so the frequency of opportunities Calzaghe has to get in will be significantly reduced.
Kessler is bigger and has the stature to keep Calzaghe at distance which is very much not the style that Calzaghe prefers
Calzaghe has a good chin – he can Kessler’s best punch and his elusiveness probably means he will not get hit too frequently but possibly enough to lose rounds
Calzaghe will need to move a lot against Kessler and the judges might favour Kessler for this reason
Kessler has very good footwork and this will make life hard for Calzaghe

Kessler by Stoppage


Calzaghe makes a lot of mistakes and he could get caught
Calzaghe is very square when he throws his combinations and could get caught and Kessler will easily hit him to the chest or shoulders, throat or head down the middle every time and very hard, Calzaghe will think twice about spending anytime in close with Kessler even though Kessler is not a good inside fighter, against Calzaghe does not need to be
Calzaghe often jumps in but Kessler jab will send him backwards if Kessler times him
If Calzaghe stops moving or is stunned he is getting KOed


Calzaghe by Points


Kessler like to be set and Calzaghe working the angles could seriously disrupt Kessler rhythm
Calzaghe is faster and has a higher punch output than Kessler and this could impress judges
Kessler is an orthodox fighter 6’1” tall and has a wide leg stance which he uses to generate his power and throws the jab his main weapon every 3 or 4 seconds when a target is stationary in front of him like Lucas and Siaca were. doubles up on the jab well but Kessler does not paw with it, he leans into it and really ramrods the jab home with very good effect, often rocking his opponents head and so not letting his opponent to get into a rhythm.
Also Kessler circles exclusively to his left, making it much easier for the southpaw to get outside and around him.
Kessler is an orthodox fighter 6’1” tall and has a wide leg stance which he uses to generate his power and throws the jab his main weapon every 3 or 4 seconds when a target is stationary in front of him like Lucas and Siaca were – Calzaghe will not be in front of Kessler and Calzaghes movement will significantly disrupt Kessler pattern.
Kessler doesn’t move his head much so he could be a relatively easy target and Calzaghe could accumulate points/rounds because combinations impress the judges even though they may not have much impact on Kessler
Calzaghe will use lateral movement stepping to his right and outside of Kessler’s front foot, which Kessler with a wide foot stance will have a lot of trouble adapting to.
Calzaghe has a high work rate which means that Kessler will be constantly resetting and hence not achieving enough effective aggression to win rounds consistently.
The fight is in Cardiff with a very parochial crowd – this may have some influence on the judges.
Calzaghe by Stoppage


Calzaghe could exploit his speed advantage and accumulated damage on Kessler could result in a late stoppage or if Calzaghe exploits his speed advantage in a flurry
Dodgy hometown stoppage?Any comments - viewpoints?

teke
09-07-2007, 12:35 PM
I can see how both can win - all i can do is flip a coin.

Kegsy
09-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Should be a great matchup thats for sure.
Its that close to call, that i agree with Teke time for me to flip a coin.
One day i think Kessler might win & on another day i think Calzaghe.

ashley
09-07-2007, 08:50 PM
Yep I am the same....Joe with speed and combos VS kess with power and jabs.

Hometown advantage will play a big part for Joe but Kess has overcome that type of thing in the past.

Kess will have loads of power and that will keep Joe at a distance but Joe can move and has great speed and this could upset Kess.

I think Kess will win...no Joe...no Kess....f... I dont know.

China_hand_Joe
09-07-2007, 11:23 PM
I am big fan of Kessler but I think Calzaghe has the right to be a strong favourite

Kessler by Points


Calzaghe is not big enough to hold and hit Kessler as he has done with other opponents
Calzaghe will be more cautious against Kessler because Kessler has the power to damage Calzaghe and the jab to punish Calzaghe on the way in so the frequency of opportunities Calzaghe has to get in will be significantly reduced.
Kessler is bigger and has the stature to keep Calzaghe at distance which is very much not the style that Calzaghe prefers
Calzaghe has a good chin – he can Kessler’s best punch and his elusiveness probably means he will not get hit too frequently but possibly enough to lose rounds
Kessler has very good footwork and this will make life hard for Calzaghe


This is more of a "why Calzaghe will find it more difficult than usual to win on points" thing, than an actual, how Kessler will win a decision analysis.

WhataRock
09-08-2007, 01:05 AM
Good post nrgetic.

I say Joe wins cause he is just better.

Peterp
09-08-2007, 01:14 AM
Kessler !

waynesmale
09-08-2007, 10:45 AM
Joe will start off good but by round 5-6 he will fall into the Southpaw trap of that powerful straight right hand by Kessler.

KESSLER KO (TKO) ROUND 9

THN
09-08-2007, 10:53 AM
China hand joe I serusly fear for you, what will your life be when Joe loose?
will you pick up a new quest for your life or just drink?:verysad

nrgetic
09-08-2007, 11:19 AM
I watched Kessler vs Mundine again today. Kessler is very structured in his offence in the sense of start an offensive pattern as opposed to going with the flow and improvising. Calzaghe will be in constant motion and Kessler will need to counterpunch a lot which is not generally how Kessler beat an opponent. Kessler generally throws a combination which creates opportunities. He is often too busy getting out of the way to organise his counterpunching when pressured - like he is trying to reset.

I will change my mind a 100 times before the fight and I suppose that reflects this is a tight fight and a few different scenarios are equally likely

Amsterdam
09-08-2007, 11:53 AM
Good post nrgetic.

I say Joe wins cause he is just better.

Calzaghe is not better than Kessler at this point, that's not true. He just has the better style for Kessler than Kessler does Calzaghe and this will decide the fight.

Kessler is likely the next SMW-LHW king, he's really fantastic and will continue to improve.

heidegger
09-08-2007, 12:49 PM
Kessler brutal KO round 5.

ashley
09-08-2007, 07:59 PM
I dont know who will win but its going to be a massive build up and one hell of a fight

WhataRock
09-10-2007, 03:56 AM
Calzaghe is not better than Kessler at this point, that's not true. He just has the better style for Kessler than Kessler does Calzaghe and this will decide the fight.

Kessler is likely the next SMW-LHW king, he's really fantastic and will continue to improve.

:huh

Styles make fights sure but to say its just the style that will win it for him is silly and basically reasserts my point. Its his talent, methods, physical attributes and experience that make his style and I think he able to combine these things because he is the better fighter.

When Joe has his hand raised at the end of this fight its because he was the better fighter no other reason.

henrik
09-10-2007, 07:15 AM
i think kessler wins after a very hard fight...but i think that late in the fight kessler will catch J.C with KO...but it can go to both sides IMO.

ThePlugInBabies
09-10-2007, 08:50 AM
fuck me, another thread where people talk about kessler as if he has jeff lacy type punching power :patsch