So how good is fedor

[borj]

i had only watched one fight of his. that's the fight at pride FC where he's the HW champion and he's fighting a guy rated in the top 10 (not #1). in that fight, his opponent got from an early start, landing a couple of blows that took fedor on queer street. Fedor then clinched and clinched until he recovers. Fedor ended up winning by a rear naked choke.

So how good he is let's say, can we compare him with Couture (not H2H but skills, i know he's big)?

PS: one thing more, i remember antonio rodrigo noguiera was his #1 contender back then. Did they fight?

thoughts guys, i'll appreciate it

[196osh]

He is basically the GOAT MMA fighter, he can do everything. KO you standing, sub you in many different ways, an has sick GnP. He is faster stronger, better GnP, better subs, better stand up and has better GnP than Couture, and would have beaten him up H2H.

He fought Nog 3 times, beat him twice and one was a NC due to an accidental head butt.

[Weber]

Fedor, for all intents and purposes, is the Muhammad Ali of MMA - only more dominant. He has fought and beaten almost everyone of note, including 5 former UFC champs, two of them twice.

I suggest you look for yourself, you won't be disappointed. There's some good footage of Fedor in action as well as commentary from top authorities on MMA in this video:

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[borj]

He is basically the GOAT MMA fighter, he can do everything. KO you standing, sub you in many different ways, an has sick GnP. He is faster stronger, better GnP, better subs, better stand up and has better GnP than Couture, and would have beaten him up H2H.

He fought Nog 3 times, beat him twice and one was a NC due to an accidental head butt.

:admin better ground and pound than couture. that has to be sick

[borj]

Fedor, for all intents and purposes, is the Muhammad Ali of MMA - only more dominant. He has fought and beaten almost everyone of note, including 5 former UFC chamos, two of them twice.

I suggest you look for yourself, you won't be disappointed. There's some good footage of Fedor in action as well as commentary from top authorities on MMA in this video:

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nice vid. (i only saw up to 1:50, my internet is sabotaging me). is he always that ruthless?? i saw the first highlight, he came right away singing punches. super fast and extremly strong. a young mike tyson came immediately to my mind.

i'll watch the whole vid later. dammit i'd like to learn more

[HeavyT]

If anyone is gonna beat Lesnar, it will be him. He is a fair bit smaller though, but watching that vid, the guy is ferocious!

[borj]

Fedor, for all intents and purposes, is the Muhammad Ali of MMA - only more dominant. He has fought and beaten almost everyone of note, including 5 former UFC champs, two of them twice.

I suggest you look for yourself, you won't be disappointed. There's some good footage of Fedor in action as well as commentary from top authorities on MMA in this video:

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wow. this guy may be fighting by instincts. that's why he's so fast. he storms his opponents then when his opponent reacts, he knows what to do right away. damnn

[Weber]

wow. this guy may be fighting by instincts. that's why he's so fast. he storms his opponents then when his opponent reacts, he knows what to do right away. damnn

That's probably true. He's an excellent strategist as well though, great at finding the weak points of his opponents and exploiting them.

And 196osh wasn't exaggerating when he said that Fedor's GnP was better than Couture's. That is not a dent in Couture's legacy, that's just how good Fedor is. His best display of GnP was probably in his first fight against Nogueira, where he beat one of MMA's best BJJ-pratitioners at his own game.

The fight is 30 mins, but one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen nonetheless:

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[superfly98]

Not really an MMA fan but have seen a few of Fedor's fights. Regarding the previous UFC champions he didnt beat them at there 'peak' What I mean is that he didnt beat them when there confidence was at hits highest and they were maintaining a run. The only to I can think of which he beat when they were near there best were Antonia and Pitbull (cant remember his name but I know he was trained by Roach).

When he beat pitbull....pitbull was crazy for trying the flying knee, he was going fine with his game plan even he stated that he had a rush of blood and he didnt know why he tried the flying knee.

One other thing why would Fedor beat Lesnar. That guy is scary huge I watched him against Mir and he manhandled him. Mir couldnt cope with his weight

[cippi]

he needs to fight Lesnar.

[socrates]

Fedor v lesnar..

He may aswell fight sapp for aLl the ability lesnar has.

Fedor=no.1

[radab]

love the understated tags



Fedor's the greatest MMA fighter in history

[Grievesy]

he needs to fight Lesnar.

No, Lesnar needs to fight Fedor.

[Blue145]

he needs to fight Lesnar.

:patsch

[TheChamp1000]

he needs to fight Lesnar.

lesnar needs to fight him.

The top man in MMA heavyweight division is fedor, lesnar needs to seek out fedor to prove himself not the other way around.

[sitiyzal]

Fedor, for all intents and purposes, is the Muhammad Ali of MMA - only more dominant. He has fought and beaten almost everyone of note, including 5 former UFC champs, two of them twice.

I suggest you look for yourself, you won't be disappointed. There's some good footage of Fedor in action as well as commentary from top authorities on MMA in this video:

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:lol: some of that footage is speeded up.

[scurlaruntings]

:admin better ground and pound than couture. that has to be sickCoutures GnP is garbage. Fedor would smash Coutre through the mat and into the Earths crust below thats real. You want to see a brutal Fedor GnP? Watch his bout with Big Nog. Every one of those punches made me wince..

[scurlaruntings]

Not really an MMA fan but have seen a few of Fedor's fights. Regarding the previous UFC champions he didnt beat them at there 'peak' What I mean is that he didnt beat them when there confidence was at hits highest and they were maintaining a run. The only to I can think of which he beat when they were near there best were Antonia and Pitbull (cant remember his name but I know he was trained by Roach).

When he beat pitbull....pitbull was crazy for trying the flying knee, he was going fine with his game plan even he stated that he had a rush of blood and he didnt know why he tried the flying knee.

One other thing why would Fedor beat Lesnar. That guy is scary huge I watched him against Mir and he manhandled him. Mir couldnt cope with his weightYour opening sentance sums up the entirity of your post. You dont know enough about MMA to even warrant an opinion on Fedor.

[superfly98]

Your opening sentance sums up the entirity of your post. You dont know enough about MMA to even warrant an opinion on Fedor.

Thats why im hear cause I want to know why he's so good from someone who actually knows about MMA and why he'd beat Lesnar???? :think

[scurlaruntings]

Thats why im hear cause I want to know why he's so good from someone who actually knows about MMA and why he'd beat Lesnar???? :thinkThats like asking would would prime Tyson beat any current heavy. Fedor is the GOAT. The greatest of all times. The equivalent of Ali in MMA. The man is NO JOKE. He fought in a golden era against some of the worlds best heavies in the worlds deepest organisation at the time. He has never lost a bout and has faced everyone who is somebody and everytime Fedor has won. As a Sambo practitioner he is unparalleled and surely the greatest of all Sambo fighters ever. He has faced massive heavies like Zulu and Choi one he beat into submission the other he submitted in under a round. So far he has beaten 5 UFC heavyweight champs. The majority of them never even lasted a round. His ledger is littered with ATG heavies along with some of the best fighters in this sport. Fedor has an exceptional record because he is an exceptional mixed martial artist. Brock isnt good enough to even carry his spit bucket.

[superfly98]

Thats like asking would would prime Tyson beat any current heavy. Fedor is the GOAT. The greatest of all times. The equivalent of Ali in MMA. The man is NO JOKE. He fought in a golden era against some of the worlds best heavies in the worlds deepest organisation at the time. He has never lost a bout and has faced everyone who is somebody and everytime Fedor has won. As a Sambo practitioner he is unparalleled and surely the greatest of all Sambo fighters ever. He has faced massive heavies like Zulu and Choi one he beat into submission the other he submitted in under a round. So far he has beaten 5 UFC heavyweight champs. The majority of them never even lasted a round. His ledger is littered with ATG heavies along with some of the best fighters in this sport. Fedor has an exceptional record because he is an exceptional mixed martial artist. Brock isnt good enough to even carry his spit bucket.

Not really with the Tyson. Its like me asking how would Tyson compared to Holmes before they actually faced off. As Lesnar is the undisputed champion and Fedor is by fans the best out there. I think its a relevant question.


I cant really speak on MMA so im not gonna try and act as if i'm master of the sport cause i've only recently started watching it and don't have any training in things MMA. My knowledge is grounded in boxing. So i'll take what you've said on board. When I have more knowledge on MMA i'll be sure to ask more specific questions. :thumbsup

[196osh]

Brock is the UFC HW champion. Thats not undsiputed.

[superfly98]

Brock is the UFC HW champion. Thats not undsiputed.

Ok....I was going with what the UFC announcer said after his victory against Mir :huh

[196osh]

Ok....I was going with what the UFC announcer said after his victory against Mir :huh

Yeah it was just because the UFC made Mir its interim champion, so Lesnar won the full title.

[superfly98]

Yeah it was just because the UFC made Mir its interim champion, so Lesnar won the full title.

Cool thanks for clearing that one up

[bad]

he will hurt lesner. fedors a very bad man.

[Swamp Creature]

:admin better ground and pound than couture. that has to be sick

Fedor is able to get distance when they are in guard and still pound them pretty good somehow ?

[TheChamp1000]

Cool thanks for clearing that one up

it's like a team winning the world series at baseball or winning an alphabet title in boxing. It does not mean they are the best or true world champions.

[boxingcar]

If you wanna have a good idea of how solid his g&p is.....

Watch Lesnar vs Herring.

Then watch Fedor vs Herring and compare.

[Sweet Pea]

This good. Don't worry, none of the vids are long.

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And as a treat, Fedor and Shinya Aoki grappling:

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[roscoe]

Fedor is a beast & he will destroy Lesnar when they fight. He has all the tools, Lesnar has size.

[Stoo]

Fedors greastest assest is his reaction/killer instinct. It still amazes me how quickly he landed the ko on Arlovski when Andre dropped his hands to throw that infamous flying knee attempt.

[zarman]

not as good as couture p4p, still would like to see that fight.

[Arka]

nice vid. (i only saw up to 1:50, my internet is sabotaging me). is he always that ruthless?? i saw the first highlight, he came right away singing punches. super fast and extremly strong. a young mike tyson came immediately to my mind.



More like a young Max Baer. :cool:


i'll watch the whole vid later. dammit i'd like to learn moreTry and get a version where the action isn't speeded up. :D

[BewareofDawg]

He is basically the GOAT MMA fighter, he can do everything. KO you standing, sub you in many different ways, an has sick GnP. He is faster stronger, better GnP, better subs, better stand up and has better GnP than Couture, and would have beaten him up H2H.

He fought Nog 3 times, beat him twice and one was a NC due to an accidental head butt.
"Dominated" is the word you are looking for in that sentence

[196osh]

"Dominated" is the word you are looking for in that sentence

The second time wasnt anywhere near as bad as the first.

[borj]

thanks for the replies. i haven't watched the videos yet, but i will when my internet gets fixed. thanks

[Bill Butcher]

i had only watched one fight of his. that's the fight at pride FC where he's the HW champion and he's fighting a guy rated in the top 10 (not #1). in that fight, his opponent got from an early start, landing a couple of blows that took fedor on queer street. Fedor then clinched and clinched until he recovers. Fedor ended up winning by a rear naked choke.

So how good he is let's say, can we compare him with Couture (not H2H but skills, i know he's big)?

PS: one thing more, i remember antonio rodrigo noguiera was his #1 contender back then. Did they fight?

thoughts guys, i'll appreciate it

Fedor has only been rocked once in his life & funnily enough, it was that fight you seen vs Fujhita (wrong spelling likely but you know who I mean)

He is the best MMA fighter that ever lived regardless of weight class, he is way more complete than Couture & would kill him in a H2H.... Fedor fought Nogueira 3 times, he won the 1st & 3rd fights on pts clearly & fought on even terms in the 2nd fight until Fedor got cut by an accidental head butt & the fight was ruled a no contest. Both Fedor & Nog are the top 2 HWT of all time, Nog looks finished now but Fedor is still going strong.

Simply put, Fedor is a machine & looks to be unbeatable, he will no doubt lose at one point but he`s 32 now & we dont know how much longer has has left.... I hope he keeps going long enough to beat Lesnar, Im sure he would beat him, its a fight I want to see.

:good

[socrates]

well think rob kaman kickboxing

joe lewis and karate

rickson and jiujitsu

dan gable and amateur wrestling

bas rutten and pancrase

etc etc

and you'l get the idea.

[Bill Butcher]

not as good as couture p4p, still would like to see that fight.

Nonsense, Fedor is a level above Couture, why are you trying to confuse the thread starter, the guy is asking about Fedor & you say this nonsense, behave yourself.

[liger05]

i had only watched one fight of his. that's the fight at pride FC where he's the HW champion and he's fighting a guy rated in the top 10 (not #1). in that fight, his opponent got from an early start, landing a couple of blows that took fedor on queer street. Fedor then clinched and clinched until he recovers. Fedor ended up winning by a rear naked choke.

So how good he is let's say, can we compare him with Couture (not H2H but skills, i know he's big)?

PS: one thing more, i remember antonio rodrigo noguiera was his #1 contender back then. Did they fight?

thoughts guys, i'll appreciate it

That was v Fujita. Fedor is a machine and no doubt the best there is.

[ryanty22]

Fedor v lesnar..

He may aswell fight sapp for aLl the ability lesnar has.

Fedor=no.1

i'll admit that fedor is the hands down number 1 in the world but comparing lesnar to sapp is just an absolutely retarded comparison. lesnar is a world above sapp and would destroy him without much trouble at all

[socrates]

i'll admit that fedor is the hands down number 1 in the world but comparing lesnar to sapp is just an absolutely retarded comparison. lesnar is a world above sapp and would destroy him without much trouble at alli was being facetious..

[TheChamp1000]

I remember seeing the fedor randleman match and being amazed that fedor won after nearly having his neck driven through the ground.

[borj]

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And as a treat, Fedor and Shinya Aoki grappling:

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awasome videos:smoke

i discovered many things.

fedor isn't that big, he got dwarfed by nogueira.

I can't believe he was still strong after receiving that nasty slam from randleman. also, i've never seen randleman (on his UFC HW champ days) gets reversed from a top position that quick.
and fedor's fighting style is dynamic. he did not look like he was looking for or setting up for a submission, yet when the opportunity comes he takes it. i think my claim that he fights by instinct is legit.

i believe fedor will submit brock. i know brock is big and has tremendous wrestling, but he still commits fundamental mistakes. Brock's loss against frank mir came from the dumbest move i've seen since UFC 1. that's when Mir got a hold on his leg, and brock tried to take his leg out right away. when your opponent got your leg, you don't go out, you go in further and bomb him with GnP, so he would've no choice but to release the lock. brock repeated that numerous times. brock is going to end up on top, but if he tries that quick "pitty-pat" hammer punches (which i've seen numerous times), he's gonna get caught

[radab]

^ hahahaha i love that Ogawa fight

thats what happens when you disrespect the man :)

[radab]

^ and that Goodridge fight i've never seen Emelianenko so explosive and frenzied. poor Garry got the complete shit beat out him in less than a minute

[borj]

^ and that Goodridge fight i've never seen Emelianenko so explosive and frenzied. poor Garry got the complete shit beat out him in less than a minute

yeah. i feel bad for gary too.

[ufoalf]

awasome videos:smoke

i discovered many things.

fedor isn't that big, he got dwarfed by nogueira.

I can't believe he was still strong after receiving that nasty slam from randleman. also, i've never seen randleman (on his UFC HW champ days) gets reversed from a top position that quick.
and fedor's fighting style is dynamic. he did not look like he was looking for or setting up for a submission, yet when the opportunity comes he takes it. i think my claim that he fights by instinct is legit.

He absolutely fights by instinct. That's what makes him so exceptional because he flows through style to style so freely. Watch him fight Nogueira or Herring. You can see him doing striking than he finds himself in position for a takedown and just does it, and it looks ever so smooth. Most people have to "set it up" he just goes with the flow.

[borj]

^ hahahaha i love that Ogawa fight

thats what happens when you disrespect the man :)

:lol: i love it too.

brock did it with mir also, but he won, very unfortunate. i would've been happy to see him tap after pulling that stunt

[borj]

He absolutely fights by instinct. That's what makes him so exceptional because he flows through style to style so freely. Watch him fight Nogueira or Herring. You can see him doing striking than he finds himself in position for a takedown and just does it, and it looks ever so smooth. Most people have to "set it up" he just goes with the flow.

yeah.. he doesn't look like he was looking for it, then one exposure of an arm, he takes it. nice

[thejokerswild]

heaps good explanations here of him. I reccomend his book if you're bored.

[Vitor Belfort]

i had only watched one fight of his. that's the fight at pride FC where he's the HW champion and he's fighting a guy rated in the top 10 (not #1). in that fight, his opponent got from an early start, landing a couple of blows that took fedor on queer street. Fedor then clinched and clinched until he recovers. Fedor ended up winning by a rear naked choke.

So how good he is let's say, can we compare him with Couture (not H2H but skills, i know he's big)?

PS: one thing more, i remember antonio rodrigo noguiera was his #1 contender back then. Did they fight?

thoughts guys, i'll appreciate it

yea i saw fedor and big nog last fight. He basically dominated noguiera in every way. Fedor destroys couture if they ever fight. Skills wise fedor is way above couture. Couture might be a better wrestler but fedor has fought the best wrestlers out there and dominated pretty much all of them.

[jimmie]

yea i saw fedor and big nog last fight. He basically dominated noguiera in every way. Fedor destroys couture if they ever fight. Skills wise fedor is way above couture. Couture might be a better wrestler but fedor has fought the best wrestlers out there and dominated pretty much all of them.

Well beating the Randlemans and Colemans are different then Couture. Couture will get the takedown in a clinch im sure of that and his submission defense has grown good enough to where he can buy the time he needs to land good short elbows and cut up Fedors razor thin skin. Thats Randys only chance but its very possible probablly one of the most likely people to beat Fedor on that reason alone. Pretty crazy Fedor is so good we look for people to cut him to get a win.

[radab]

Well beating the Randlemans and Colemans are different then Couture. Couture will get the takedown in a clinch im sure of that and his submission defense has grown good enough to where he can buy the time he needs to land good short elbows and cut up Fedors razor thin skin. Thats Randys only chance but its very possible probablly one of the most likely people to beat Fedor on that reason alone. Pretty crazy Fedor is so good we look for people to cut him to get a win.



then Ken-Flo is the man for the job!

[radab]

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[jimmie]

then Ken-Flo is the man for the job!

:lol: If Kenny weighed 220 he would be the perfect opponet hes a very well rounded fighter and has the one weapon Fedor has shown weakness agianst and thats the cut opener. Man I wish there was someone really out there to challenge Fedor 2 years ago I said 3 guys could give him trouble Barnett(he fucked that fight up forever),Arlovski(did ok but stopped cold),Couture(46 probablly wont see that fight). The guys left for him whoever comes clear in this UFC Heavyweight title picture of Brock,Velasquez and Carwin and whoever he gets in this little Affliction thing Belfort,Lashley and Rodgers. :-( Sad stuff the most accomplished fighter there is a Middleweight.

[Vitor Belfort]

Well beating the Randlemans and Colemans are different then Couture. Couture will get the takedown in a clinch im sure of that and his submission defense has grown good enough to where he can buy the time he needs to land good short elbows and cut up Fedors razor thin skin. Thats Randys only chance but its very possible probablly one of the most likely people to beat Fedor on that reason alone. Pretty crazy Fedor is so good we look for people to cut him to get a win.

true couture is a better wrestler than those two. Couture only chance is to take him down and ground and pound his azz but fedor is too good to be held down on the ground for that long. Sooner or later he'll get back on his feet or get on top of couture and finished him.

[liger05]

Randy would get destroyed by Fedor. Come on its not even a debate.

[Bill Butcher]

Randy would get destroyed by Fedor. Come on its not even a debate.

Exactly.

Cant believe some cunts think otherwise actually :good