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snakerattle79
07-15-2009, 09:01 AM
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The following is the latest Facebook blog from former WWE star and soon-to-be TNA Wrestling star Taz:

1st off, Congrats to Brock on a strong victory! I know that Brock is a driven athlete with an awesome work ethic...therefore I am not surprised at his success in UFC!

I don't agree with some of the "true hardcore UFC fans" maybe not respecting Brock or the way he may react to a victory.....or his promo after (which I personally loved!). In my opinion, I feel that the MMA world is not in Brock's corner in regards to his MMA career. Lesner MAY be looked at as a "fluke" from the Pro Wrestling genre therefore Brock may not be getting the respect he well deserves! I also feel that the MMA gurus in the world never thought Brock would be as successful as he is...just my opinion.

Well folks...if you haven't noticed the dude is the real deal! And us from the Pro Wrestling industry that know Brock Lesner... realize how legit & credible the man is! It pisses me off when athletes/performers from the industry I have been lucky enough to be in for over 20 years dont get the respect our guys and gals should be receiving! And there or MORE athletes coming from the Pro Wrestling business to dominate in MMA (on deck is Bobby Lashley!) so get use to it!!!

In closing...late last night I heard the true "MMA GENIUS" Joe Rogan say that Brock didn't make many friends last night after his dominate victory. So I would like to say to Mr Rogan-
HEY JOEY....I DON'T THINK LESNER IS LOOKING TO MAKE NICEY NICE WITH ANYONE....ITS THE FRIGGIN FIGHT BUSINESS CHAMP....NO REASON TO KISS ASS OR BE PC!!!!

Taz
FTW

Beebs
07-15-2009, 09:35 AM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes

196osh
07-15-2009, 09:49 AM
3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes

:rofl:rofl:rofl

:yep

scurlaruntings
07-15-2009, 03:07 PM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes:lol::lol::lol::lol: What a superbly written crock of shite. Rogan vs Taz for Wrestle Mania!! I find it truly mystifying how again and again guys shit on professional wrestlers as though all they do is act poorly and roll around in spandex. Seriously get a fucking clue already. :roll:

Beebs
07-15-2009, 04:19 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol: What a superbly written crock of shite. Rogan vs Taz for Wrestle Mania!! I find it truly mystifying how again and again guys shit on professional wrestlers as though all they do is act poorly and roll around in spandex. Seriously get a fucking clue already. :roll:

Your joking right? You think some wrestler who is just a pro wrestler, no real fighting background, is going to accomplish a quadrillionth of Lesnar?

Guys like Lashley, Angle in his day, the Steiners, hell even Taz has a little Judo (although Rogan would tear him in half) and Japanese shoot wrestlers are one thing.

If one wants to take it seriously for a few years and actually make a go of it (I believe the undertaker is a purple belt), a few are good athletes and could make headway compared to the average joe, but if you think some random wrestler is gonna walk straight into MMA, its gonna look like Johnnie Morton vs the comedian.

The HHH, John Cena's, Batista's of the world are bad bodybuilders working as bad actors.

Act poorly? Check
Roll around in spandex? Double check
Other accomplishments?

scurlaruntings
07-15-2009, 05:14 PM
Your joking right? You think some wrestler who is just a pro wrestler, no real fighting background, is going to accomplish a quadrillionth of Lesnar?

Guys like Lashley, Angle in his day, the Steiners, hell even Taz has a little Judo (although Rogan would tear him in half) and Japanese shoot wrestlers are one thing.

If one wants to take it seriously for a few years and actually make a go of it (I believe the undertaker is a purple belt), a few are good athletes and could make headway compared to the average joe, but if you think some random wrestler is gonna walk straight into MMA, its gonna look like Johnnie Morton vs the comedian.

The HHH, John Cena's, Batista's of the world are bad bodybuilders working as bad actors.

Act poorly? Check
Roll around in spandex? Double check
Other accomplishments?Ok its common knowledge here im a huge pro wrestling fan from back in the day. ( And just before you start Morton was a fucking idiot). Alot of the guys in the WWE come from professional backgrounds and disciplines. There shat on too many times with these weird analogies about its not real, greased up, on steroids, spandex etc etc. Fact is theres is truly a gruelling career where by they must be part time bodybuilders (thanks in part to Vince) stuntmen, actors, and good at wrestling. WWE is all about entertainment but lets not forget there credentials. Guys like Bret brothers Benjamin Jericho Benoit Angle were all traditional wrestlers with sound wrestling credentials and GREAT technical ability. Could they make the cross over in MMA in there heyday? Most certainly. Could they be as succesful as Brock? Plausible.

Remember guys like Brock and Shamrock only left the big money of the WWE because they fell out with the organisation otherwise they'd still be there now and this argument would be all moot with you repeating the same lines as to there "feeble" credentials.

As for HHH Cena and Batista puhlease. 15 years ago those guys would all have been jobbers. The stable is soo woefully thin now Vince hardly has much options hence why he pushes a guy like Orton who's mike skills are as bad as his one hour pauses. There all shit and cant wrestle worth a lick.

chimba
07-15-2009, 05:29 PM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes

:lol::rofl:lol: MMA fans watching live are the most unknowledgable fans in the world. They boo fighters for being on the ground..they boo 5 seconds of lull in a standup. The least they could do is cheer for Brock because he brings fuckin entertainment to this sport which they are so dumb enough to not understand.

Next time they boo when it goes to the ground think about that....They fuckin booo..booo all the time..do you watch ufc PPVs?

and FYI most prowrestler have amatuer wrestling backgrounds..I would dare say that if you check their resumes that theyve wrestled one way or another. If fuckin Leben and the Groves of the world whose got as much natural talent as my neighbor Joe can win some MMA fights..you telling me that guys like Orton or BAtista couldnt?

Beebs
07-15-2009, 05:34 PM
Ok its common knowledge here im a huge pro wrestling fan from back in the day. ( And just before you start Morton was a fucking idiot). Alot of the guys in the WWE come from professional backgrounds and disciplines. There shat on too many times with these weird analogies about its not real, greased up, on steroids, spandex etc etc. Fact is theres is truly a gruelling career where by they must be part time bodybuilders (thanks in part to Vince) stuntmen, actors, and good at wrestling. WWE is all about entertainment but lets not forget there credentials. Guys like Bret brothers Benjamin Jericho Benoit Angle were all traditional wrestlers with sound wrestling credentials and GREAT technical ability. Could they make the cross over in MMA in there heyday? Most certainly. Could they be as succesful as Brock? Plausible.

Remember guys like Brock and Shamrock only left the big money of the WWE because they fell out with the organisation otherwise they'd still be there now and this argument would be all moot with you repeating the same lines as to there "feeble" credentials.

As for HHH Cena and Batista puhlease. 15 years ago those guys would all have been jobbers. The stable is soo woefully thin now Vince hardly has much options hence why he pushes a guy like Orton who's mike skills are as bad as his one hour pauses. There all shit and cant wrestle worth a lick.

Right; fighters who happen to do pro wrestling to get paid could do well.

Pro wrestlers who are just pro wrestlers would do worse than golfers.

Beebs
07-15-2009, 05:41 PM
:lol::rofl:lol: MMA fans watching live are the most unknowledgable fans in the world. They boo fighters for being on the ground..they boo 5 seconds of lull in a standup. The least they could do is cheer for Brock because he brings fuckin entertainment to this sport which they are so dumb enough to not understand.

Next time they boo when it goes to the ground think about that....They fuckin booo..booo all the time..do you watch ufc PPVs?

and FYI most prowrestler have amatuer wrestling backgrounds..I would dare say that if you check their resumes that theyve wrestled one way or another. If fuckin Leben and the Groves of the world whose got as much natural talent as my neighbor Joe can win some MMA fights..you telling me that guys like Orton or BAtista couldnt?

First you are just wrong: the last ufc I heard cheers for takedowns, sprawls, submission attempts and escapes and even cheering a blocked attempt to pass guard. You simply are living in the past. They boo'd him because he flipped them off, I dont think either side of that argument is smart but it had nothing to do with his fighting, it had to do with his persona.

Second can you not read what I said, here it is verbatim:
If one wants to take it seriously for a few years and actually make a go of it (I believe the undertaker is a purple belt), a few are good athletes and could make headway compared to the average joe

So if they became like Leben who is an absolute gym rat and trains harder than you have ever done anything in your life, they might win some fights.

Right now they get beat up by JV highschool wrestler.

chimba
07-15-2009, 05:46 PM
First you are just wrong: the last ufc I heard cheers for takedowns, sprawls, submission attempts and escapes and even cheering a blocked attempt to pass guard. You simply are living in the past. They boo'd him because he flipped them off, I dont think either side of that argument is smart but it had nothing to do with his fighting, it had to do with his persona.

Second can you not read what I said, here it is verbatim:


So if they became like Leben who is an absolute gym rat and trains harder than you have ever done anything in your life, they might win some fights.

Right now they get beat up by JV highschool wrestler.


This UFC was indeed an exception, then again the main card was mostly GSP taking Alves down..and everyones down with Georges. It was a good UFC.

MY bad on the second one didnt see that, just making a point on Prowrestlers that if they trained, would definitely have an advantage over an ordinary Joe like a Swick or a Herman. Actually those who have done it have been very successful, Saku and Brock..Lashley can very well become a star

Tko4
07-15-2009, 06:34 PM
Ask Sean O'Haire how easy it is to move from pro wrasslin' to MMA without serious background in an actual fighting sport (ie amateur wrestling). All 6'6" chisled inch of him got clobbered in Pride by freakin' Butterbean.

scurlaruntings
07-15-2009, 06:46 PM
Ask Sean O'Haire how easy it is to move from pro wrasslin' to MMA without serious background in an actual fighting sport (ie amateur wrestling). All 6'6" chisled inch of him got clobbered in Pride by freakin' Butterbean.Please dont qoute that idiot as any defining prescence in PRIDE or in the WWE. O'haire is a MONUMENTAL prick in real life. Watching him get destroyed by Butterbean in a few seconds was rather comical. As was also his alledged 20 fight record in Muay Thai or kickboxing. Mention the succesful pro wrestlers not idiots like Sean.

Tko4
07-15-2009, 06:51 PM
Please dont qoute that idiot as any defining prescence in PRIDE or in the WWE. O'haire is a MONUMENTAL prick in real life. Watching him get destroyed by Butterbean in a few seconds was rather comical. As was also his alledged 20 fight record in Muay Thai or kickboxing. Mention the succesful pro wrestlers not idiots like Sean.

My point is that most successful pro wrestlers aren't successful because of their pro wrestling background, but rather, because they have extensive amateur wrestling backgrounds. That's not to say these guys aren't athletic. They have to be incredibly strong and have great cardio to do what they do. But nothing they learn during their choreographed battles makes it so they would be successful in MMA. Rather, it's that amateur wrestling background that makes the difference. As we all know, it's one of the best possible MMA bases. Wrestlers without that background that make the jump, like O'Haire, get smashed.

BITCH ASS
07-15-2009, 09:44 PM
I think the Pro Wrestling angle has been covered quite well. What I would like to add/divert the crux of this discussion toward is Lesnar's success from his folkstyle and freestyle background.

Lesnar was not even an elite freestyle wrestler from an International standpoint. Within the U.S. Brock was behind Stephen Neal and Kerry McCoy. With McCoy being the most accomplished of the three, by far. Even with that McCoy still only has one International medal of consequence on his dossier. Routinely coming up short against the Russian, Uzbek and Kazakh wrestlers who dominated the division, even to this day.

Artur Taymazov is the current two time defending Olympic champion and is an amazing physical specimen. In fact I will go as far and claim that Lesnar would not be able to score a point against him, even if he had continued his freestyle wrestling. In addition Taymazov is also younger than Lesnar.

I cannot help but wonder how well the best International wrestlers would do in MMA, particularly in the heavyweight division. Nobody close to that level has attempted to make the transition. Lesnar is having great success and was/is far from an elite wrestler.

An elite wrestler's worse nightmare is an elite striker and an elite striker's worst nightmare is an elite wrestler.

It's just a matchup of styles.

Just like boxing...

You have to pick apart the weaknesses in their defense, and find openings and holes...

Then you have physiological intangibles like athletic ability and reflexes, which can sometimes overpower an opponent who is skilled by lacks athleticism...

I'd say that a great wrestler that can handle Brock could probably beat him considering Brock has rudimentary striking ability, but it would be a very difficult match, and when you factor in Brock's experience with ground fighting, it makes it that much more difficult for a pure wrestler to beat Brock.

I think Brock's worst nighmare is a guy with fast and powerful hands, who has the ability to get low and move quickly.

Brock can be turned and beaten with angles, but I can't think of many people in MMA, (because honestly I'm not a big fan as in I don't follow the sport cuz I don't have money to pay for it), that would even have a chance at this point, except for maybe Arvloski and that Brazilian with the fast hands who throws a lot of straight punches.

But Arvloski has some significant weaknesses and is definitely not polised defensively, and the Brazilian may be finished.

But it all comes down to styles...

Beebs
07-15-2009, 11:12 PM
I think the Pro Wrestling angle has been covered quite well. What I would like to add/divert the crux of this discussion toward is Lesnar's success from his folkstyle and freestyle background.

Lesnar was not even an elite freestyle wrestler from an International standpoint. Within the U.S. Brock was behind Stephen Neal and Kerry McCoy. With McCoy being the most accomplished of the three, by far. Even with that McCoy still only has one International medal of consequence on his dossier. Routinely coming up short against the Russian, Uzbek and Kazakh wrestlers who dominated the division, even to this day.

Artur Taymazov is the current two time defending Olympic champion and is an amazing physical specimen. In fact I will go as far and claim that Lesnar would not be able to score a point against him, even if he had continued his freestyle wrestling. In addition Taymazov is also younger than Lesnar.

I cannot help but wonder how well the best International wrestlers would do in MMA, particularly in the heavyweight division. Nobody close to that level has attempted to make the transition. Lesnar is having great success and was/is far from an elite wrestler.

Did brock ever commit to Freestyle though? I don't see him placing in any sort of Freestyle tournament, but that just might mean he did poorly in them.

I have to think the Balkan/Caucus/Russian wrestling pipeline going into MMA would be a force, look at the US and even Japanese wrestlers.

One problem would be the Greco-Roman guys; in the US GR guys grow up doing Folkstyle because everybody does folkstyle, most guys do it all the way through college even, this gives them the base in wrestling groundwork, and full body takedowns before learning the more technical upper body Greco stuff that works so well in MMA.

Abroad they may train in Freestyle some of the time, but GR guys are GR guys, so they are missing a chunk of the advantage. They will still have the super technical and physical advantage in the clinch that Greco brings, but will be missing a part of the package. I imagine thats why the majority of the successful Japanese wrestlers are Freestylers.

HomicideHenry
07-15-2009, 11:42 PM
One thing Taz is missing out on is not EVERY wrestler in pro wrestling would make a great cross over into MMA. I can name quite a few off the top of my head who tried and failed...probably the best example I can think of is Tony Halme "The Viking" taking on Randy Couture in what was 'The Natural's' first or second pro mma bout. It didnt even go 30 seconds.

Sure you can point out that the guys today are more athletes than showmen, than their 1980's, 1970's etc counter parts, but still...Lesnar is great for a few reasons: he's still young enough to make an impact, he's willing to learn, he's got tons of speed and strength, and he was an athlete long before being in the WWE on the national level, even if it was collegiate.

Taz, imo, has sour grapes that his own tough guy mystique was never 'proven'. If I recall, during his ECW days, he was supposed to get involved in a shoot with former boxer Leon Spinks, but it never came off because the camera shot they needed of Spinks in the audience challenging Taz didnt happen---Leon, ever the drinker and drug addict, was puking his guts out.

Big T
07-16-2009, 12:18 AM
I for one have no problem with Brock talking shit after the fight. Mir talk, and talked and talked..and didn't back it up. He got beat and punded. Brock was pissed and it's true he is a Love him or hate him type of guy. If you are a true MMA fan then you should be more pissed of with Hendo. What he did couldv'e done real damage. MMA fighter talk about how nobody has died in the ring, but Hendo was out of class for taking a cheep shot at a down man that he even said knew he was out. So get all pissy with Brock all you want, but if you don't get on Hendo's case then you are just blowing smoke.

Beebs
07-16-2009, 12:53 AM
Joe Rogan is legit on the mat, he would murder Taz. These vids are old too; Rogan has gotten better, Taz has gotten more like a pro wrestling announcer.

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08 - Running a dominant, but more coaching type roll on Anthony Galdi

Galdi was competing at blue belt in 07, this is in 08, not sure where he was then or now

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Apparantly he wants to throw some Muay Thai knees on a reality show Faggot too :lol;

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achillesthegreat
07-16-2009, 09:22 AM
Wow, Taz is a cock.

WWE should get no genuine respect as fighters. They should get respect as physical specimens i.e. size, strength etc

Rogan stated the obvious. It doesn't matter if it is the fight business. Some class never goes a miss.

HeavyT
07-16-2009, 05:48 PM
I think Tazz just enjoys stirring shit on his twitter or facebook or whatever it is. He'd t-bone suplex then choke out Rogan with the tazmission anyway. :lol:

liger05
07-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Doesnt Taz have a black belt in Judo?

Taz's comments are funny just because there have been guys in the past from pro-wrestling who achieved great things in MMA.

1. Ken Shamrock. Shamrock was not a pro-wrestler after his UFC stint. He went to the WWE afterwards but before the UFC shamrock was a pro-wrestler.

2. Dan Severn was a pro-wrestler. He even had the NWA World Title when he won the UFC.

3. Japanese legend Kaz Sakuraba. Saku was and still is a pro-wrestler. He makes no distinction between the two. When he won the HW UFC tournament in Japan he said to the crowd Afterwards, "In fact, professional wrestling is strong"

HeavyT
07-16-2009, 06:28 PM
They might have had success but heres one guy that didnt do to well...

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I'm pretty sure he almost had to retire cause he challened some smaller, regular guy toa fight and then promptly got his ass kicked and fractured an orbital bone lol He also apparently assaulted a woman, cunt! :verysad

2ironmt
07-16-2009, 06:29 PM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes nah it is "the fight game" , so some of that should be tolerated especially given the circumstances (cocky Mir talking tasteless trash, pro Mir crowd, etc). I agree no need to "make up fake bad guys" but by the same token this isn't NFL or the NBA it's a one on one sport where each is trying to hurt the other (to varying degrees). as in boxing, if you want guys to behave like animals (fight each other) don't be surprised if they're not all humble and nicey nice before and after.

Beebs
07-17-2009, 03:19 AM
Doesnt Taz have a black belt in Judo?

Taz's comments are funny just because there have been guys in the past from pro-wrestling who achieved great things in MMA.

1. Ken Shamrock. Shamrock was not a pro-wrestler after his UFC stint. He went to the WWE afterwards but before the UFC shamrock was a pro-wrestler.

2. Dan Severn was a pro-wrestler. He even had the NWA World Title when he won the UFC.

3. Japanese legend Kaz Sakuraba. Saku was and still is a pro-wrestler. He makes no distinction between the two. When he won the HW UFC tournament in Japan he said to the crowd Afterwards, "In fact, professional wrestling is strong"

He became a pro wrestling because of his shootfighting trainging though, he was always a shootfighter first, pro wrestler second.

Severn was again after MMA

Sak was definatly a pro wrestler, but also an amatuer wrestler in school, at a national level, he didn't become the fighter he was because of pro wrestling.

Good points though in general.

cdnboxing
07-17-2009, 04:08 AM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes

Well, I agree, MMA being a real sport is bordering on that fine line though.

But lets be honest, Rogan aint no fighter. Rolling with Eddie Bravo and smoking grass doesnt make you tough and Rogan like Taz has likely never been hit in the head. Rogan talks a big game but he hasnt done shit and he doesnt know shit about anything other than BJJ.

So really, who knows how the fight would end up, all I know is it would be sloppy as hell and both guys would come off looking alot less tough than what they perceive themselves to be.

Beebs
07-17-2009, 12:32 PM
Well, I agree, MMA being a real sport is bordering on that fine line though.

But lets be honest, Rogan aint no fighter. Rolling with Eddie Bravo and smoking grass doesnt make you tough and Rogan like Taz has likely never been hit in the head. Rogan talks a big game but he hasnt done shit and he doesnt know shit about anything other than BJJ.

So really, who knows how the fight would end up, all I know is it would be sloppy as hell and both guys would come off looking alot less tough than what they perceive themselves to be.

How can you say MMA being a real sport is "bordering on a fine line"? Any line for that matter? There is no more real sport than MMA.

Rogan may not be a fighter, but he is a completely legit brown belt, closing in on his black; and was a champ TKD guy, which migh help a little.

It wouldn't look sloppy at all, it would look like a guy getting a takedown and then tearning through like a hot knife through butter.

cdnboxing
07-17-2009, 07:03 PM
How can you say MMA being a real sport is "bordering on a fine line"? Any line for that matter? There is no more real sport than MMA.

Rogan may not be a fighter, but he is a completely legit brown belt, closing in on his black; and was a champ TKD guy, which migh help a little.

It wouldn't look sloppy at all, it would look like a guy getting a takedown and then tearning through like a hot knife through butter.

How does that make any sense?

Real sports dont put Hong Man Choi or Zulu in there with the best MMA fighter in the world. Real sports dont give a 2-1 fighter a title shot.

TKD would make a very little impact, but yeah his BJJ would decide it.

Beebs
07-17-2009, 09:58 PM
How does that make any sense?

Real sports dont put Hong Man Choi or Zulu in there with the best MMA fighter in the world. Real sports dont give a 2-1 fighter a title shot.

TKD would make a very little impact, but yeah his BJJ would decide it.
Real sports are sports where the competition is real.

There is no more real form of competition between two men than fighting.

Hitting a ball with a funny stick is not "real" in the primal way MMA is "real". The stuff outside of the sport has nothing to do with the realness of the sport.

If the WWE was as classy and professional as Wimbledon, everybody was treated like a VIP, the fans were all Ph.D's, the arena was made of diamonds and marble, it would still not be a real sport, because it isn't a natural competion.

Real competition = real sport.

robert ungurean
07-19-2009, 03:04 PM
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The following is the latest Facebook blog from former WWE star and soon-to-be TNA Wrestling star Taz:

1st off, Congrats to Brock on a strong victory! I know that Brock is a driven athlete with an awesome work ethic...therefore I am not surprised at his success in UFC!

I don't agree with some of the "true hardcore UFC fans" maybe not respecting Brock or the way he may react to a victory.....or his promo after (which I personally loved!). In my opinion, I feel that the MMA world is not in Brock's corner in regards to his MMA career. Lesner MAY be looked at as a "fluke" from the Pro Wrestling genre therefore Brock may not be getting the respect he well deserves! I also feel that the MMA gurus in the world never thought Brock would be as successful as he is...just my opinion.

Well folks...if you haven't noticed the dude is the real deal! And us from the Pro Wrestling industry that know Brock Lesner... realize how legit & credible the man is! It pisses me off when athletes/performers from the industry I have been lucky enough to be in for over 20 years dont get the respect our guys and gals should be receiving! And there or MORE athletes coming from the Pro Wrestling business to dominate in MMA (on deck is Bobby Lashley!) so get use to it!!!

In closing...late last night I heard the true "MMA GENIUS" Joe Rogan say that Brock didn't make many friends last night after his dominate victory. So I would like to say to Mr Rogan-
HEY JOEY....I DON'T THINK LESNER IS LOOKING TO MAKE NICEY NICE WITH ANYONE....ITS THE FRIGGIN FIGHT BUSINESS CHAMP....NO REASON TO KISS ASS OR BE PC!!!!

Taz
FTW
Good post.

robert ungurean
07-19-2009, 03:07 PM
Taz needs to realize 3 things.

1)People were booing him because he was acting like an idiot, and since this is REAL SPORTS, and not FAKE SPORTS, people are expected to behave like profesionals, NOT MADE UP BAD GUYS. People with an interest in real sports don't want a spandex soap opera.

2) Not one person has said anything but Brock's athletic and MMA credentials are legit and getting better; they just say the truth, that it comes from his amateur wrestling and MMA work, not his Spandex Soap Opera. NOBODY IS COMING FROM PRO WRESTLING TO MMA, there are high level amateur wrestlers who whored themselves by play fighting finally wanting to actually fight, not act. No greased up pro wrestler without a real background is going to do any real fighting.

3) Joe would take Taz's "legit judo background" and twister his spine into 6 pieces in under 5 minutes
Dont you think your being childlike by already comparing Taz & Rogan to a fight? what are you like twelve? The man is entitled to his oppinion and there wasnt anything threatning about it.