View Full Version : Judah Wins Ud, Does Not Ko
1boricua
09-08-2007, 12:24 AM
Zab Judah went the distance against Edwin Vasquez (22-10, 8 KOs) on Friday night (Sept. 7, 2007). Judah was never close to stop Vasquez, who had entered the fight with a 3-5-2 record in his last ten. Scores were 97-93, 98-93, 100-90.
Tito Time
09-08-2007, 12:26 AM
Okay performance... But I wanted a KO from Juday...
IntentionalButt
09-08-2007, 12:26 AM
Zab Judah went the distance against Edwin Vasquez (22-10, 8 KOs) on Friday night (Sept. 7, 2007). Judah was never close to stop Vasquez, who had entered the fight with a 3-5-2 record in his last ten. Scores were 97-93, 98-93, 100-90.
It is disappointing that he couldn't put this guy away, but to be fair he did almost stop him early in the fight, toward the end of one of the first rounds; and he didn't start really committing to a stoppage until the 8th.
nezy37
09-08-2007, 12:26 AM
I thought he looked pretty good in a bounce back fight. Why he didn't KO him is a combination of Zab trying to get rounds and Vazquez having a hell of a chin
MacManJr.
09-08-2007, 12:30 AM
Zab said he hurt his left hand too.
Kyroguy
09-08-2007, 12:38 AM
it's aggravating when Zab doesn't pursue when he hurts his opponent. I didn't like his throat cutting gestures when he should have been punching.
teetop
09-08-2007, 12:40 AM
I thought he looked pretty good in a bounce back fight. Why he didn't KO him is a combination of Zab trying to get rounds and Vazquez having a hell of a chin
His chin isn't that good. He has been ko'd 3 times in his career. freitas
at lightweight and wilfredo negron and ricardo torres at 140. Yes, all good punchers, but lower weight classes. Zab had monstrous at 40, and very good power at 47. He should've been able to stop this guy.
I think judah will become a gatekeeper for the top welters from now on.
rvk2007
09-08-2007, 01:29 AM
This fight sucked. Judah seemed just interested in going rounds. Or at least thats what i hope he was doing because if he was going all out then he is finished. Judah did hit Vazquez with some good shots but some of those shots didn't hurt vazquez. However Judah rarely tried pushing the action. I must say it was disappointing.
Zakman
09-08-2007, 01:39 AM
it's aggravating when Zab doesn't pursue when he hurts his opponent. I didn't like his throat cutting gestures when he should have been punching.
No kidding - that showboating crap is one of the many reasons fans don't like Judah.
booradley
09-08-2007, 01:40 AM
a disappointing and BORING performance.
brick city
09-08-2007, 01:48 AM
It was a good fight, you can't stop everyone. Just because a guy has a bad record does'nt mean he is easily ko'ed. To think that some of you cats don't know boxing.
Toopretty
09-08-2007, 01:55 AM
They dont know shit..that was a ok fight it was tense...judah was going for it early and the guy was game and did not take any chances to get caught with a knockout punch...he didnt attack judah and was very very smart not coming str8 in but he made judah be the aggressor when Judah wanted to be the counter puncher...the guy kept very good distance and he was doing vet moves...he didnt come to lay down...I hate clowns on here that dont know shit about an actual boxing match but look at names and wins and losses instead of actually looking at what the fuck was going on in the fight...Zab was imitating Roy with his taunts as the guy was not giving him any openings..Another good thing...zab was actually a fucking body puncher today...he actually tried to wear his guy down instead of looking for the one punch..the guy was tough..and fought scared hard to knockout a guy like that....
Toopretty
09-08-2007, 01:56 AM
a disappointing and BORING performance.
HOW the fuck was that fight boring..Like 3 rounds that zab took off was boring..but the other guy was fighting back.and was game..:nut:nut:nut:patsch to hell with these hating ass clowns..zab is never in a boring fucking fight.
pipe wrenched
09-08-2007, 02:55 AM
Damn!! I was betting on the under! that's boxing for ya.
BoppaZoo
09-08-2007, 02:58 AM
Judah looked horrible and put up a shitty performance. Cotto ruined him.Tszyu ruined him years ago.
Well you're not going to expect too much from a guy that is coming off a brutal KO loss.
Cloud
09-08-2007, 04:19 AM
Judah has always lacked a certain something. All the talent in the world as a boxer, but a mediocre fighter. Always has been, always will be. Definitely not the type to get better with age either. He has no hope of taking a title in the welterweight division. On a recent loss or not, with his skill set, not KO'ing a FNF bum is an embarassment. Name me one other major player in the welterweight division who wouldn't have put this guy away. Cotto, Cintron, Mayweather, Margarito and Paul Williams all would have AT LEAST scored a TKO. Welcome to gatekeeper status Zab.
BoppaZoo
09-08-2007, 04:36 AM
no.No What you think Cotto was the first to get to Judah and his head. Tszyu ruined Judah mentally before Cotto was even fighting anyone decent. 2002 the Tszyu fight was and yeah Judah won against Spinks but after that night he was never the same Zab.
Tszyu
Spinks
Baldomir
PBF
got the better of him before Cotto even entered the Ring. It was never or will it be never that Cotto was the man that ruined Judah. He was damaged for good after the loses before Cotto was even mentioned.
Doomas
09-08-2007, 09:23 AM
Zab looked good, but I still dont like him giving away rounds and resting. Scored 97-93 for zab. I like fighters who give all 100% in the ring.
He Hate Me
09-08-2007, 09:31 AM
Judah looked horrible and put up a shitty performance. Cotto ruined him.
I think your being a little premature.
China_hand_Joe
09-08-2007, 09:34 AM
There was always a decent chance Judah would failed to get the KO.
Vasquez not totally awful, a part-time fighter like people have said.
But he would have been super-motived for this one though.
Judah de-motivated.
He should have KO'd him, but it isn't the end of the world.
Judah isn't as talented as some of you think anyway, he is just bad at pacing himself, which made him look good against Floyd for a few rounds.
Zab Judah went the distance against Edwin Vasquez (22-10, 8 KOs) on Friday night (Sept. 7, 2007). Judah was never close to stop Vasquez, who had entered the fight with a 3-5-2 record in his last ten. Scores were 97-93, 98-93, 100-90.
I think zab need fights like this, going the distance and getting the work in which is what he should have done before he fought Cotto.
last night fight gave Zab time to work on some much needed skill that have been way over due, focus, body attack and of course stamina .. to me there was no need of trying to blow out a guy who only chance of beating you is if he brings a 38.cal get the work and get back into contention , Zab knows now that the welter weight devision is too loaded for him half stepping at any part of his game . I still think zab can beat any one on any given night if his mind is right.
This fight sucked. Judah seemed just interested in going rounds. Or at least thats what i hope he was doing because if he was going all out then he is finished. Judah did hit Vazquez with some good shots but some of those shots didn't hurt vazquez. However Judah rarely tried pushing the action. I must say it was disappointing.
Like I said earlier, Zab actually needed this type of fight ,, to often we seen him become unmotivated if he fails to get the KO early , he need to learn to stay focus trough out the fight and learn to stick with his game plan, which what he will need if he ever find him self in the ring again against any of the top 6 welters or for that matter top 10.
GazOC
09-08-2007, 09:53 AM
Like I said earlier, Zab actually needed this type of fight ,, to often we seen him become unmotivated if he fails to get the KO early , he need to learn to stay focus trough out the fight and learn to stick with his game plan, which what he will need if he ever find him self in the ring again against any of the top 6 welters or for that matter top 10.
If he han't learnt that by 30 then he isn't go to learn it.
buddynabuick
09-08-2007, 09:57 AM
No kidding - that showboating crap is one of the many reasons fans don't like Judah.
Yep. now i know where VB got his style from. Zabs style is irritating:tired
Illmatic
09-08-2007, 10:08 AM
whats wrong with you guys? Zab looked good in this fight, Vazquez just showed a great chin b/c Zab hit him with some wicked shots. Zab boxed, he brawled in a couple rounds, got the work he needed b/c a first round kayo was not going to help him get to where he needs to be
hitman_hatton1
09-08-2007, 10:30 AM
he ain't a welterweight for me.
he should cut the weight and get down to 140.
Amsterdam
09-08-2007, 11:00 AM
Well you're not going to expect too much from a guy that is coming off a brutal KO loss.
Exactly. Let him build back up and see what he does, whether you hate or like him, with Judah, it's always entertaining...:lol:
Clottey looked worse against his last tomato can.
jimmie
09-08-2007, 11:01 AM
Just like his fight with Chop Chop Corely.
psychopath
09-08-2007, 11:05 AM
Zab Judah went the distance against Edwin Vasquez (22-10, 8 KOs) on Friday night (Sept. 7, 2007). Judah was never close to stop Vasquez, who had entered the fight with a 3-5-2 record in his last ten. Scores were 97-93, 98-93, 100-90.
Was he low blowed here also? :think
:D :lol: :yep
If he han't learnt that by 30 then he isn't go to learn it.
never to late to learn, with the way the welter weight devision is stacked he has no choice but to turn up his game or become a gate keeper at 30..
whats wrong with you guys? Zab looked good in this fight, Vazquez just showed a great chin b/c Zab hit him with some wicked shots. Zab boxed, he brawled in a couple rounds, got the work he needed b/c a first round kayo was not going to help him get to where he needs to be
exactly :good
jaycuban
09-08-2007, 12:08 PM
his just trying to stock up them victories
GazOC
09-08-2007, 12:12 PM
never to late to learn, with the way the welter weight devision is stacked he has no choice but to turn up his game or become a gate keeper at 30..
TBH thats how I see him at 147, he'll keep guys out of the top 5 if they arn't good enough but I'd be surprised if he manages to win a title.
TheGrimReaper
09-08-2007, 12:48 PM
edwin fought a smart fight. zab refuses to use his jab to generate offense, that is why there was no knockout. what a great surprise to see and hear the great roy jones during the fight, that was my highlight.
nezy37
09-08-2007, 12:56 PM
His chin isn't that good. He has been ko'd 3 times in his career. freitas
at lightweight and wilfredo negron and ricardo torres at 140. Yes, all good punchers, but lower weight classes. Zab had monstrous at 40, and very good power at 47. He should've been able to stop this guy.
I think judah will become a gatekeeper for the top welters from now on.
yeah probably true. It's just hard to believe considering how good of an athlete he is. IMO athleticly he is every bit as goood as Floyd
buddynabuick
09-08-2007, 01:21 PM
yeah probably true. It's just hard to believe considering how good of an athlete he is. IMO athleticly he is every bit as goood as Floyd
I agree. But.......at the start of each round he comes out with hands held up nice, working with the jab which looks effective but by midway he goes into what you could call the Charlie Zellenoff mode....he drops his lead hand and becomes ineffective trying to bring his jab up from his knee:tired.
Toopretty
09-08-2007, 01:41 PM
Zab is not no damned mediocre fighter..lol..:lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :nut :nut :nut :nut :nut :patsch The guy has been in the ring with THE TOP welters in the ring today and the top hard to beat fighters like Spinks who he KOd...Zab is competitive with anybody...He is actually doing what he should of done a long time ago....work on the 12 round fight instead of going for the one punch crazy..this fight he did what..body shots..big body shots.....I thought I never seen the day..Zab was playing with this dude...Judah was getting rounds in and when he turned it up...he hurt the guy every time....the guy fell into the ropes one time and that should of been a knockdown...but anyway zab has and will always be a good fighter..not great but good. You aint beating Zab unless your come hungry with your A game....like Judah is a tomato can..fucking biased ass retards..the same retards big up clowns like margarito and cintron.lol
Toney
09-08-2007, 01:56 PM
Zab had no trouble at all with this guy. It was no sensational performace, but you cant knock em all out. Fron 4-10 grade; I give him 7+. He did okey. :good
jopez707
09-08-2007, 02:10 PM
No fighter in the welterweight division has seen their stock fall more than Zab Judah's recently. Was it really a year and a half ago that he was the undisputed unified Welterweight Champion of the World? Since then he is 1-3 (with 1 no contest). He has got from undisputed to near gatekeeper status. I honestly cant pick him against any of the top 5 guys in the division. He already lost to Mayweather and Cotto. He would get killed by Williams, he would lose to Cintron and Margarito. Mosely and De La Hoya would kill him. That leaves Clottey, Collazo, and soon Berto as the best of the rest of the division. If I were him i would try for a fight against Collazo, Quintana, or Berto. Those are all winnable fights for him.
Toopretty
09-08-2007, 02:13 PM
No fighter in the welterweight division has seen their stock fall more than Zab Judah's recently. Was it really a year and a half ago that he was the undisputed unified Welterweight Champion of the World? Since then he is 1-3 (with 1 no contest). He has got from undisputed to near gatekeeper status. I honestly cant pick him against any of the top 5 guys in the division. He already lost to Mayweather and Cotto. He would get killed by Williams, he would lose to Cintron and Margarito. Mosely and De La Hoya would kill him. That leaves Clottey, Collazo, and soon Berto as the best of the rest of the division. If I were him i would try for a fight against Collazo, Quintana, or Berto. Those are all winnable fights for him.
Some what agree. But I think zab can beat margarito b/c I cant see margarito hitting judah with any of those wide slow ass looping shots and zab would hit him at will. Williams...????? thats an interesting fight.....edge to Williams but Zab can win...possibly...Cintron..that is whoever lands the bomb first..lol..I see judah out classing Cintron who cant really box at all just has that damned DESTROYER right hand that he flinges
teekay00
09-08-2007, 02:27 PM
the fight was very good. Many people we looking to see Zab KO Edwin. personally i wanted to see a 10 round fight, Zab looked like he wanted to fight at least 6 rounds and then KO Edwin so he could gets some rounds in. He won the fight and that is all that matters. A lot of guys could have gone down from some of the shots Zab landed but Edwin didnt.
I was LOL when zab was cutting his throat and Edwin showed him the F*** YOU sign and was saying come on come on. When Zab does that stuff and he doesnt KO someone he looks dumb. He def won but if ur not gonna kill the dude, dont say ur cutting his throat lol
I gave Edwin 3 rounds though, i dont know why that last judge gave zab 100, he dominated but he did not win every round.
booradley
09-08-2007, 06:45 PM
Judah has always lacked a certain something. All the talent in the world as a boxer, but a mediocre fighter. Always has been, always will be. Definitely not the type to get better with age either. He has no hope of taking a title in the welterweight division. On a recent loss or not, with his skill set, not KO'ing a FNF bum is an embarassment. Name me one other major player in the welterweight division who wouldn't have put this guy away. Cotto, Cintron, Mayweather, Margarito and Paul Williams all would have AT LEAST scored a TKO. Welcome to gatekeeper status Zab.
Great post! Says all there is to say about Judah and his status in the 147 division.
Boo
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