Losing a fight!

[twoohands]

On the weekend i lost my fight. Instead of boxing like a shoud have and picked him off as he came in, because he was wide open for it. I just went into brawling mode and i lost a fight to an opponent i should have easily beat..

My question is, what sort of advise does your coach usually give you after a loss? Does he tell you, you have a few things to work on or you should have done this? or does he give you a verbal beat down and make you feel like a peice of shit for losing?

Because my coach let me have it in front of about 10 other people and made me feel like a peice of shit..

Does a loss increase your motivation for your next fight?

Im having a few days off and i already cant wait for the next day of fights. Im hungry to redeem myself.

[wansen]

Different things work for different people. Although I really don't agree with "making someone feel like a piece of shit"....it sounds as though it might have worked as you are "hungry to redeem yourself". If possible, I'd try to find out if anyone got a video of your bout. To me, that's the BEST way to see your own mistakes. We used to tape our sparring (and that was not all that easy in the "old days") and bouts. And watch them over and over and over, etc.

[TheRock49]

He put it nicely here, but I also lost my first fight. Then I won my next/last four. My trainer was the womens WBO middleweight belt holder and she lost her first like 6. So yea dont get discouraged man. Learn from it.

[twoohands]

He put it nicely here, but I also lost my first fight. Then I won my next/last four. My trainer was the womens WBO middleweight belt holder and she lost her first like 6. So yea dont get discouraged man. Learn from it.


This wasnt my first fight, ive had many fights. I just performed shit. I know i fought the wrong fight. Now i know not to fight that style of fight anymore. I have learnt alot more from this loss then i have from my wins.
Ill get the video soon and have a good look at it.

[The Predator]

First of all, I don´t believe in making the boxer feel like shit after he/she lost a fight, the boxer allready feel bad, as a trainer, try to be supportive directly afterworlds, "okay we didn´t work as planned, but you did that and that good etc... etc" I think it´s good to say "we" when the boxer loose, it sort of lay a little blame on the trainer as well, it might easy up the thing for the boxer. Then after a couple of days when we get back in the gym, then we go through exactly what went wrong and start to work on those things. It´s no use shouting and acting like a fool against someone that allready feel bad, you shouldn´t do that against anyone. As a trainer you are there to help and develop your fighter, not break them down, in my opinion that sort of trainers shouldn´t be in the game.
You will win your next fight
All the best
The Predator

[twoohands]

First of all, I don´t believe in making the boxer feel like shit after he/she lost a fight, the boxer allready feel bad, as a trainer, try to be supportive directly afterworlds, "okay we didn´t work as planned, but you did that and that good etc... etc" I think it´s good to say "we" when the boxer loose, it sort of lay a little blame on the trainer as well, it might easy up the thing for the boxer. Then after a couple of days when we get back in the gym, then we go through exactly what went wrong and start to work on those things. It´s no use shouting and acting like a fool against someone that allready feel bad, you shouldn´t do that against anyone. As a trainer you are there to help and develop your fighter, not break them down, in my opinion that sort of trainers shouldn´t be in the game.
You will win your next fight
All the best
The Predator


Thats the things after the fight i new i performed bad. My trainer was telling me to relax during the fight and box like i usually do. For some reason i was over excited and just wanted to brawl. Ive learnt my lesson now and wont do that again.
During the fight my trainer was apparently waving his hands in the air and shaking his head at me.
My trainer always seems to point out my negatives. Even in sparring against more experienced heavier guys, he always sais your not doing this or that or this is no good. Never sais anything positive.
I dont know if this is normal from a trainer, i see other trainers after the fight with there fighters after they lost and they dont treat there fighters that way.

[TheRock49]

Maybe you just had an offnight. We all get them. Look at Oscar DeLaHoya!

[scrap]

It Happens so what, Ive been on the Floor that many times Ive got a Cauliflower Arse :hi:

[twoohands]

It Happens so what, Ive been on the Floor that many times Ive got a Cauliflower Arse :hi:


i bet thats not the reason why you got a cauliflower arse...let me guess :think

[TheRock49]

:lol:

[The Predator]

Normal or not, I think it´s wrong, a trainer is there to support, protect and help his boxer in any way. it´s no help having someone shout and point out that you did this or that wrong.
Like I wrote before, you lost the fight, you don´t need to hear directly after the fight what you did wrong, you allready know something went wrong oterwise you shouldn´t have lost.
trainers that act that way is, in my opinion, not good for their boxers. Perhaps it would be better that the trainer went in to the ring himself and did everything right cause i´m sure he never lost a fight in his whole life.
Seriously, I understand that you like your trainer, but a trainer has no right to act that way. it doesn´t help you or any other fighter.
keep up the good work, let me know how your next fight goes.
The Predator

[RDJ]

It motivated me a lot, but I felt good about the fight win or lose. Learned a great deal from it, and if it wasn't for an ankle injury I would have fought again by now.

[RDJ]

Thats the things after the fight i new i performed bad. My trainer was telling me to relax during the fight and box like i usually do. For some reason i was over excited and just wanted to brawl. Ive learnt my lesson now and wont do that again.
During the fight my trainer was apparently waving his hands in the air and shaking his head at me.
My trainer always seems to point out my negatives. Even in sparring against more experienced heavier guys, he always sais your not doing this or that or this is no good. Never sais anything positive.
I dont know if this is normal from a trainer, i see other trainers after the fight with there fighters after they lost and they dont treat there fighters that way.

Sometimes it does not mean he thinks you're doing bad, it may mean that he simply expects more of you. I know a guy who always pointed out my bad sides, and complimented some others. When I asked him why he told me that was unintentional, he simply held me to higher standards.

Have you confronted him?

[Kolya]

You win some, you lose some. As long as you do your best you can always hold your head up; just focus on the things that you need to improve on next time. Name of the game in the amateurs.

[Bodi]

As a coach, and a retired fighter, I know what its like from both sides of the fence. I tend to judge each situation on its own merits. Sometimes, you might be overmatched, try your best and lose, in this case a bollocking does nobody any good. If one of my guys simply has an off night, which we all do from time to time, I use the loss as a motivating factor in their training for their next fight. If my fighter loses by fightning like a dickhead, as far as i'm concerned he's wasting my time, and i'll let him know it in no uncertain terms.

I push my fighters hard, and although I don't expect them to win every fight, I do expect them to follow my instuctions as best they can - if they lose even though they followed my instructions, I view that as a loss for me, rather than them.

The one thing that I simply will not tolerate is someone who completely disregards everything that I work very hard to instill in them. If someone is going to fight their own fight, then they should tell me that right from the start of training, atleast that way, I can dedicate my time to someone else who is prepared to listen and learn.

By nature, I am quite an impatient person, so I have a simple system. The first time one of my fighters goes there own way in a fight, i'll pull them to one side afterwards and leave them in no uncertain terms that I won't accept it again. It is then forgotten about and we move on. If however, it happens again, I tell them to find another gym as I won't train them any more.

[RightHooker]

Everyone loses, and everyone reacts differently. Some people may respond well to their coach yelling at them and use it as motivation, but for other people it may just make the feeling worse and further discourage them.

A good coach knows his boxers and how to deal with each of them.

[lucky7]

Same happened to me and i think to never box again i loose by 5-2, my trainer said its ok cus is my first fight, my opponent fighting very dirty and judge warned him 6-7 times without public warning and i pissed off. How badly is loosing first fight ??

[Kolya]

Same happened to me and i think to never box again i loose by 5-2, my trainer said its ok cus is my first fight, my opponent fighting very dirty and judge warned him 6-7 times without public warning and i pissed off. How badly is loosing first fight ??


A lot of people lose their first fight. I did, a lot of good people I know have. In the amateurs, losing barely even matters outside of tournaments.

[twoohands]

Everyone loses, and everyone reacts differently. Some people may respond well to their coach yelling at them and use it as motivation, but for other people it may just make the feeling worse and further discourage them.

A good coach knows his boxers and how to deal with each of them.

My coach yelling at me doesnt motivate me or unmotivate me. My own determination is what drives me to perform better next time and make sure i win. My coach didnt really upset me, it makes me think does my coach respect me and do i have the right coach, i dont like being spoken to like that, he belittled me very severly. If thats how he is going to react everytime something goes wrong, maybe im with the wrong coach.

[twoohands]

Sometimes it does not mean he thinks you're doing bad, it may mean that he simply expects more of you. I know a guy who always pointed out my bad sides, and complimented some others. When I asked him why he told me that was unintentional, he simply held me to higher standards.

Have you confronted him?


No i havnt confronted him, i usually let things slide, bit by bit i was starting to get fed up with the criticism. He does have very high expectations of me. Im not asking for a pat on the back for everything good i do but it does seem like i get the most criticism out of the fighters. After the fight was just the topping on the cake..

[stormy]

Remember the old saying "you may lose the fight, but dont lose the lesson"


A coach teaches you punching techniques and clues you up each step along the way from day one. Then he teaches strategies that are used to skillfully set up your attack/defense systems according to your individual traits eg;the style of fight that best fits YOU.

BUT....

In a large gym its hard for a coach to get the time he needs to work with the individual. You may also notice that there are trainers who are exceptionally talented and yet along the way get burnt out......then you may see a coach who demands you fight his WAY or you can piss off cos he dont have the time for rebels and and such. Fair call. Every man has the right to choose his own approach.

It takes very large amounts of energy out of a trainer to keep going over the same stuff day after day, year after year.

It is a reward when you see a student winning and prospering due to what you have taught them, but conversely it is as frustrating as all hell when they lose when they just WON'T or DON'T do what you have taught them.

Its so easy to vent your frustration at a fighter when they have under performed.

Some Coaches simply revert to wielding there authority (toungue) like a sword , rather than behave more like a King who is a servant to the needs of his people........

The difference between the two types is that one is wise and looks for a solution to fix the problem, whilst the other is only fairly simple.... just like a small child who doesn't get what they want, so prefers to throw a tantrum because they are feeling upset at the moment.....poor coach!! his fighter got beat up so he dont get no candy!! get rid of that fighter!!

The "childish" Coach will either mature or he will be the same in 10years time.

We all react badly or in error from time to time. If another person treats you like a dog then BITE him!! nah just kidding lmao ... but if you are shown liitle respect and talked to like a peice of shit then its time you showed the coach a few combos on your way out the door......:patsch
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[thekokid]

dont wory abou it,, i lost my 1st fyt, stopped actually. my coach was lied to abou my opponents ability, turned out he was a national finalist and regional champ, stopped me in 2!
but i learnd 4rm it n went on 2 win my nxt 2 and 1 in front of my hometown, getn beat is all part of amateur boxing so dnt gt hung up on it, as for your coach he shouldn of shouted at you like that, but mayb a bit of a telling off myt have sufficed seeing as you didn stick to your style.

but i no its hard to stay and fight on the outside wen your opponent is intent on brawling and the crowd is egging you on,, but always fight to your own style, hope dat helps