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PATSYS
09-08-2007, 03:11 AM
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Just when you think JMM is finally starting to fight someone worth knowing...

Up to this point JMM has only beat scared Gainer in a stinker and a faded MAB in a close decision.

Drawing with Pac is so far his biggest accomplishment.

:patsch :patsch :patsch

kg0208
09-08-2007, 03:23 AM
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Just when you think JMM is finally starting to fight someone worth knowing...

Up to this point JMM has only beat scared Gainer in a stinker and a faded MAB in a close decision.

Drawing with Pac is so far his biggest accomplishment.

:patsch :patsch :patsch

It does suck. He needs to fight someone with a belt IMO though anyways.

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 03:29 AM
It does suck. He needs to fight someone with a belt IMO though anyways.

What JMM is doing is basically just wait for Pac to get some mileage so he is the fresher fighter when they meet again.

JMM needs to fght no less than the winner of Soto-Guzman otherwise I hope Pac doesn't fight him next. JMM doesn't deserve it. He just has 1 fight at 130 and a shortcut to the belt at that (thru a faded MAB).

:patsch

Still~style
09-08-2007, 03:30 AM
i'd like to see marquez fight soto. theres so many good fighters in the division.

kg0208
09-08-2007, 03:31 AM
What JMM is doing is basically just wait for Pac to get some mileage so he is the fresher fighter when they meet again.

JMM needs to fght no less than the winner of Soto-Guzman otherwise I hope Pac doesn't fight him next. JMM doesn't deserve it. He just has 1 fight at 130 and a shortcut to the belt at that (thru a faded MAB).

:patsch

Well yah, but Pacman needs to fight a beltholder too, not a faded MAB as you just called him. Both need to step it up. Pacman hasn't exactly been burning rubber at 130 himself.

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 03:33 AM
Well yah, but Pacman needs to fight a beltholder too, not a faded MAB as you just called him. Both need to step it up. Pacman hasn't exactly been burning rubber at 130 himself.

He is fighting a faded MAB, to go along several other good fighter at 130 lbs.

The only reason JMM got to MAB's belt first was because of Top Rank's issues with GBP.

divac
09-08-2007, 03:40 AM
What JMM is doing is basically just wait for Pac to get some mileage so he is the fresher fighter when they meet again.

JMM needs to fght no less than the winner of Soto-Guzman otherwise I hope Pac doesn't fight him next. JMM doesn't deserve it. He just has 1 fight at 130 and a shortcut to the belt at that (thru a faded MAB).

:patsch

You sound as if you believe JMM planned it this way!

Do you think JMM chickened out of the Juarez fight???:lol: :lol: :lol:


Patsy's running scared for Pac......you dont want him to face Pac do you Patsy's?????:lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol:

kg0208
09-08-2007, 03:46 AM
He is fighting a faded MAB, to go along several other good fighter at 130 lbs.

The only reason JMM got to MAB's belt first was because of Top Rank's issues with GBP.

The only good fighter he fought at 130 was Morales. A faded one who lost to a faded MAB right before beating Pacman.

Solis was an unproven nobody who has never sniffed a title and was not ranked and Larios wasn't a 130lb fighter, but a 122 fighter jumping 2 weight classes coming off a KO loss. Those are not good fights my friend. Not when there are 3 titles floating around NOT on JMM's waist.

Valero, Guzman, Soto.....you can't bag on JMM for not fighting guys Pacman hasn't fought.

kg0208
09-08-2007, 03:59 AM
Way to describe Pac's opponents in an unfavorable manner. :patsch

Those guys weren't good. Solis wasn't even a contender. And Larios is a good scalp 2 weight classes down. Not at 130.

Forget that....why is it you will give a pass to Pacman for not fighting Guzman, Soto, Valero or ANY fighter with a title at 130, but not JMM?

Cloud
09-08-2007, 04:15 AM
Sucks the fight was cancelled. Anyways JMM by decision, I like him over Juarez on his counter punching ability alone.

Scar
09-08-2007, 04:26 AM
Terrible news.

SugarShane_24
09-08-2007, 04:33 AM
Pity.

I've been waiting a long time for this.

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 05:43 AM
The only good fighter he fought at 130 was Morales. A faded one who lost to a faded MAB right before beating Pacman.

Solis was an unproven nobody who has never sniffed a title and was not ranked and Larios wasn't a 130lb fighter, but a 122 fighter jumping 2 weight classes coming off a KO loss. Those are not good fights my friend. Not when there are 3 titles floating around NOT on JMM's waist.

Valero, Guzman, Soto.....you can't bag on JMM for not fighting guys Pacman hasn't fought.

A badly cut Pac (who was deprived to use his choice of gloves) lost a very close decision 130 lbs Morales who lost a very disputed fight against a MAB who was said to have revived his prime. Then Pac KOed Morales in the 2 subsequent fights.

Yes you read it right, MAB wasn't faded when he fought Morales at 130 lbs.

Solis is a good fighter based on his showing against Pac. He was undefeated and was definitely a high risk low reward fighter.

Larios may have jumped several divsions but tell you what, I would have preferred if JMM fought him rather than the likes of Jaca, Jandaeng :huh :rofl

reed_man02
09-08-2007, 06:01 AM
A badly cut Pac (who was deprived to use his choice of gloves) lost a very close decision 130 lbs Morales who lost a very disputed fight against a MAB who was said to have revived his prime. Then Pac KOed Morales in the 2 subsequent fights.

Yes you read it right, MAB wasn't faded when he fought Morales at 130 lbs.

Solis is a good fighter based on his showing against Pac. He was undefeated and was definitely a high risk low reward fighter.

Larios may have jumped several divsions but tell you what, I would have preferred if JMM fought him rather than the likes of Jaca, Jandaeng :huh :rofl

ahahahahahahh

another pacfan, bitter towards JMM because of te beating he gave to manny pac. Get over it son, JMM will do the same soon and will place himself in the HOF. JMM has manny's number, and there isnt he, or his overzelous fans, can do about it.:yep

Jose FM
09-08-2007, 06:15 AM
JMM is puss...

theunderdog
09-08-2007, 10:51 AM
does anybody have a link or a pic to show jmm supposed infected hand? i mean if this is true, why not show the hand to the world so that they'd erase any doubts of ducking and other shit

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 10:58 AM
You sound as if you believe JMM planned it this way!

Do you think JMM chickened out of the Juarez fight???:lol: :lol: :lol:


Patsy's running scared for Pac......you dont want him to face Pac do you Patsy's?????:lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol:

He may not have deliberately planned it this way, but he sure deliberately turned down a rematch with Pac back in 2004v and a fight with Guzman (recently).

And yes you are right, I do not want JMM to fight Pac. I reckon that he is a fight with great skills and it is giving him unfair advantage over the other great fighters at 130. All he is doing is let the other top dogs in the division duke it out and he takes on the winner.

kg0208
09-08-2007, 12:08 PM
A badly cut Pac (who was deprived to use his choice of gloves) lost a very close decision 130 lbs Morales who lost a very disputed fight against a MAB who was said to have revived his prime. Then Pac KOed Morales in the 2 subsequent fights.

Yes you read it right, MAB wasn't faded when he fought Morales at 130 lbs.

Solis is a good fighter based on his showing against Pac. He was undefeated and was definitely a high risk low reward fighter.

Larios may have jumped several divsions but tell you what, I would have preferred if JMM fought him rather than the likes of Jaca, Jandaeng :huh :rofl

One, MAB hasn't been in his prime for 7 years or so. He was faded when he beat Morales the 2nd time, and he is more faded now. Don't backtrack to make Pacman's wins stand out more.

Solis isn't a good fighter. He has not titles, no title fights, no ranking, no nothing. Everything is not based on Pacman. Having a good showing against Pacman while beating no one doesn't mean you are a good fighter. Pacman TOYED with Solis.

And Larios is a good fighter. 2 weight classes lower. Convenient of you to make this excuse that it's ok for Pacman to fight him. And remember, JMM fought Chris John in his home country. Much better than fighting some guy jumping 2 weight classes.

So why bash JMM and say he needs to fight Guzman or Soto, but Pacman has been in the divsion for years and never fought for a title. He keeps fighting non contenders and old guys.

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 02:44 PM
One, MAB hasn't been in his prime for 7 years or so. He was faded when he beat Morales the 2nd time, and he is more faded now. Don't backtrack to make Pacman's wins stand out more.

Solis isn't a good fighter. He has not titles, no title fights, no ranking, no nothing. Everything is not based on Pacman. Having a good showing against Pacman while beating no one doesn't mean you are a good fighter. Pacman TOYED with Solis.

And Larios is a good fighter. 2 weight classes lower. Convenient of you to make this excuse that it's ok for Pacman to fight him. And remember, JMM fought Chris John in his home country. Much better than fighting some guy jumping 2 weight classes.

So why bash JMM and say he needs to fight Guzman or Soto, but Pacman has been in the divsion for years and never fought for a title. He keeps fighting non contenders and old guys.

After Barrera lost to Pac, he went on to TKO Ayala who was previously never stopped in a fight. Barrera looked so good in that fight, everybody thinks he was still at his prime and either he only had an off night against Pac or Pac was really that good (we all know it is the latter :hey ).

When exactly was MAB's prime for you?

And please, don't start with me about comparin level of opposition between JMM and PAC. Not even the hardcore JMM hugger will side with you on that one.:patsch :lol:

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 02:48 PM
JMM suffesred a cut in the hand that developed into an infection :patsch

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WTF??!!:nut :nut :nut

Oscar de la Roa
09-08-2007, 02:52 PM
A badly cut Pac (who was deprived to use his choice of gloves) lost a very close decision 130 lbs Morales who lost a very disputed fight against a MAB who was said to have revived his prime. Then Pac KOed Morales in the 2 subsequent fights.

Yes you read it right, MAB wasn't faded when he fought Morales at 130 lbs.

Solis is a good fighter based on his showing against Pac. He was undefeated and was definitely a high risk low reward fighter.

Larios may have jumped several divsions but tell you what, I would have preferred if JMM fought him rather than the likes of Jaca, Jandaeng :huh :rofl

First the morales pacquiao 1 wasnt close, pac landed but because erik let him do so, erik showed his strenght and better technique than pacs and second solis is a good fighter but he always fought c level fighters, the only good fighter he fought is soto but was a no contest

PATSYS
09-08-2007, 03:00 PM
First the morales pacquiao 1 wasnt close, pac landed but because erik let him do so, erik showed his strenght and better technique than pacs and second solis is a good fighter but he always fought c level fighters, the only good fighter he fought is soto but was a no contest

Pac landed because Erik let him do so?? Funniest fucken shit I've read in a while :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl

Even assuming what you are saying is true, so what? A hit is a hit and boxing is scored that way.

I had the fight a draw, I scored exactly the same way as Merchant.

THe only reason people keep saying it wasn't close was because Morales was a clear underdog and people expected Pac to blow him out of there in no time.

divac
09-09-2007, 05:04 AM
If the fight had been called off because it was'nt selling, I highly doubt the excuse would be that JMM cut his hand.

A cut in one's hand can easily be verified, and it most likely will.
Somebody in the media is going to reach JMM and say, let me see that cut of yours......

I totally believe that the fight was cancelled due to a cut......
.....had it been otherwise, there would have been a different excuse which would be much more difficult to verify, like Iron deficiency!

theunderdog
09-10-2007, 12:15 AM
If the fight had been called off because it was'nt selling, I highly doubt the excuse would be that JMM cut his hand.

A cut in one's hand can easily be verified, and it most likely will.
Somebody in the media is going to reach JMM and say, let me see that cut of yours......

I totally believe that the fight was cancelled due to a cut......
.....had it been otherwise, there would have been a different excuse which would be much more difficult to verify, like Iron deficiency!

have they released a pic yet?