Henderson vs Franklin 2 set for UFC 103

[LB3000]

Cro Cop vs Dos Santos also official.

[Polymath]

Hendo Franklin II?

Weird.

[LB3000]

Would have preferred Franklin vs Cane, but I guess they wanted a more established name as its the main event.

[Beebs]

Meh, not that thrilled about this fight, even as a huge Hendo fan.

[Tko4]

What's the point? What a stupid fight. Henderson deserves another run at the MW title, and Franklin should be building his resume at 205. Franklin and Cane would have been an excellent fight. If Franklin wins, it makes him an instantly legit 205 contender. If Cane wins, it proves he's the real deal.

What does Hendo/Franklin prove? Been there. Done that.

BLAH.

[jimmie]

What's the point? What a stupid fight. Henderson deserves another run at the MW title, and Franklin should be building his resume at 205. Franklin and Cane would have been an excellent fight. If Franklin wins, it makes him an instantly legit 205 contender. If Cane wins, it proves he's the real deal.

What does Hendo/Franklin prove? Been there. Done that.

BLAH.

Been there and alot of people bitched about the decision. Cane cant sell like Hendo and Dana doesnt seem like he wants Hendo in the MW title fight just yet. Great fight I cant wait.

[jrow]

useless fight...it will do nothing but hurt hendo or franklin if they lose

[québecwarrior]

It's stupid.

The worst thing who can happen is if Franklin is the winner.

[Rattler]

I think Hendo deserves a title shot now, not later... but I can't be upset with Hendo vs Ace II.

At the end of the day, I want good fights and this will be a good fight.

[jimmie]

I think Hendo deserves a title shot now, not later... but I can't be upset with Hendo vs Ace II.

At the end of the day, I want good fights and this will be a good fight.

Exactly we need a good main event and we got it. The 1st fight was very entertaining and alot of people complained like oh I wish they couldve had 5 rounds or damn Rich shouldve got the nod blah blah. Now we get to find out who truely is the better fighter or atleast I think. Dont see how it hurts either guy I mean it might set their title chances back alittle but it probablly gets the winner another shot. Rich and Dan have lost 5 times inside the UFC the last 3 years it hasnt hurt them either time these guys are top 20 p4p and are always right in the thick of things. I kinda wish it wasnt happening because its my 2 and 3 favorite fighters. When they fought before it was akward if Rich lands a combo im like fuck yeah then im like oh shit damnit Dans getting messed up. I want Dan to get his title shot but I also want Rich to win to avoid losing 2 straight to one guy agian. Id have perfered Ortiz-Franklin but this will do. I feel for Dan though he trains 2 months for Bisping then gets like 1 week off and heads right back for 2 more months for Rich since its only 2 months away.

[cdnboxing]

What a stupid fight.

I dont think anybody was saying after their first fight "geez, I hope these 2 fight again."

Franklin and Hendo arent main event PPV fighters.

[Vitor Belfort]

Cro Cop vs Dos Santos also official.
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here's the rest of the card
Mike Swick Vs. Martin Kampmann
Efrain Escudero Vs. Cole Miller
Josh Koscheck Vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin Vs. Hermes Franca

If crocop vs dos santos and franklin vs henderson completes this card then this PPV will not be that good.

Swick-Kampmann= ok fight
Koscheck-Trigg= ok
Griffin-Franca= good fight

The fight card doesn't look all that good. This is better off being free on spike. UFC really need to start showing more free fights cuz some fight cards are not PPV material.

[chimba]

After UFC 100, you figure white is back to hustling people.

Hendo/Franklin is a great PPV card but I would have done Marquardt vs. Leites 2 as the main event, that would be a definite buy IMHO

[jimmie]

What a stupid fight.

I dont think anybody was saying after their first fight "geez, I hope these 2 fight again."

Franklin and Hendo arent main event PPV fighters.

Franklin and Hendo arent main eventers :rofl I love you dude you make yourself look even more like a jackass every day :good

[MATT856]

Not a great matchup if this is the main event considering it will be taking place the same night as Mayweather vs. Marquez. PPV numbers should be terrible. Hendo/Anderson II needs to happen before Hendo/Franklin II IMO.

[rekcutnevets]

These guys are headliners. The fight does make sense in some ways.

I just think that since 2 of Henderson's last 3 were at middleweight, the UFC should view him as more of a middleweight contender. Henderson is a viable challenger, and deserves a rematch with Anderson Silva. Henderson won the 1st round of their encounter, and lost when he gave his back to a bjj black belt. Credit Silva with the win, but Henderson deserves another shot with his recent performances.

If GSP isn't interested in challenging Silva, and with the Maia and Marquardt winner yet to be determined, Hendo is Silva's biggest threat.

[jimmie]

Not a great matchup if this is the main event considering it will be taking place the same night as Mayweather vs. Marquez. PPV numbers should be terrible. Hendo/Anderson II needs to happen before Hendo/Franklin II IMO.

Mayweather-Marquez is going to bomb going agianst the UFC. People dont wanna pay 60 for one fight theyd rather pay 45 for atleast 5 very good fights. Kampmann vs Swick,Franklin vs Henderson II,Dos Santos vs Cro Cop,Franca vs Griffin,Trigg vs Koscheck,Escudero vs Miller hmmm name one bad fight on that card that is supposed to be so weak.

[PH|LLA]

what happened to UFC 101 and 102

[Beebs]

As a Trigg fan, that fight sets up horribly for him. Basically a younger him with better striking, less grappling. I like Kos as well though.

[chimba]

Mayweather-Marquez is going to bomb going agianst the UFC. People dont wanna pay 60 for one fight theyd rather pay 45 for atleast 5 very good fights. Kampmann vs Swick,Franklin vs Henderson II,Dos Santos vs Cro Cop,Franca vs Griffin,Trigg vs Koscheck,Escudero vs Miller hmmm name one bad fight on that card that is supposed to be so weak.

I agree, it is unfathomable to me that people think that JMM/PBf will do very good PPV. No one cares about that fight and for those who do theyd watch it for free. Im more interested about JDS/Crocop than that snoozer.

[jimmie]

I agree, it is unfathomable to me that people think that JMM/PBf will do very good PPV. No one cares about that fight and for those who do theyd watch it for free. Im more interested about JDS/Crocop than that snoozer.

Exactly I can watch it for free one week later rather then pay 60 for it and like all Floyd PPV fights it will blow. Hendo vs Franklin 1 was very good,Swick vs Kampmann cant possibly being boring,When has Tyson Griffin ever been in a bad fight ?,Cro Cop vs Santos will likely end in a KO. Im more exicted for Juarez-John II on that undercard.

[Beebs]

Franklin and Hendo arent main event PPV fighters.

Unless you count all those PPV's they have main evented.

[jimmie]

Unless you count all those PPV's they have main evented.

:lol: Yeah I know. The last 4 years Henderson main evented vs Wanderlei Silva,Rampage Jackson,Rich Franklin,Anderson Silva not to mention his co-main events vs Vitor Belfort,Murilo Bustamante and Michael Bisping. Rich has main evented vs Ken Shamrock,Nate Quarry,David Louiseau,Anderson Silva 2x,Wanderlei Silva,Yushin Okami,Dan Henderson and of course his co-main events vs Evan Tanner,Matt Hamil,Jason McDonald and Travis Lutter. 19 co or the main event not to mention both of these guys runs on TUF in front of the public eye every week and the 9 Championship fights they have appeared in. CDN probablly thinks these guys belong on UFN prelims hes so fucking dumb.

[achillesthegreat]

It was a close fight. It's good to settle the score.

[cdnboxing]

Mayweather-Marquez is going to bomb going agianst the UFC. People dont wanna pay 60 for one fight theyd rather pay 45 for atleast 5 very good fights. Kampmann vs Swick,Franklin vs Henderson II,Dos Santos vs Cro Cop,Franca vs Griffin,Trigg vs Koscheck,Escudero vs Miller hmmm name one bad fight on that card that is supposed to be so weak.

John/Juarez 2 (great 1st fight) is I believe supposed to be on that card. Judah/Hatton(brother) is okay and on that card.

Dos Santos/Crocop nobody cares about because Crocop hasnt been relevant in awhile. Nobody actually thinks he can become anything at this point of his career. Franca/Griffin good lightweight fight, Trigg/Koscheck? What the hell? Are they serious? Trigg hasnt been relevant in 4 years. How could anybody actually be excited to see this bout and have the nerve to say the boxing card only has 1 fight? And Escudero/Miller? C'mon man, dont be stupid. UFC is the ultimate hype machine. They bring in a rusty veteran like Trigg and throw him at Koscheck for an easy win and UFC fans are so brainwashed into thinking its a legitimate fight. Koscheck is going to run over Trigg.

And the main event is mediocre featuring 2 fighters who are NOT main event fighters. At least with Marquez/Mayweather it is a LEGIT fight between 2 amazing fighters. It may not have the style that will attract the casual fan but its a boxing fans dream fight. 2 of the most tactical fighters on the planet right now.

Mayweather/Marquez is going to tank in PPV's but thats because its just not a fight that appeals too much to the casual fan. But it is a great fight. And I wouldnt be surprised if the UFC does decent numbers (400,000) but the UFC does not have a better card than the boxing card. Its not even close.

[cdnboxing]

Unless you count all those PPV's they have main evented.

Just because they have been main event fighters for the UFC doesnt mean they should.

Franklin is a borderline top 5 LHW and Henderson aint much better.

The fact that these guys are main event PPV fighters is actually embarassing.....and pathetic.

[jimmie]

John/Juarez 2 (great 1st fight) is I believe supposed to be on that card. Judah/Hatton(brother) is okay and on that card.

Dos Santos/Crocop nobody cares about because Crocop hasnt been relevant in awhile. Nobody actually thinks he can become anything at this point of his career. Franca/Griffin good lightweight fight, Trigg/Koscheck? What the hell? Are they serious? Trigg hasnt been relevant in 4 years. How could anybody actually be excited to see this bout and have the nerve to say the boxing card only has 1 fight? And Escudero/Miller? C'mon man, dont be stupid. UFC is the ultimate hype machine. They bring in a rusty veteran like Trigg and throw him at Koscheck for an easy win and UFC fans are so brainwashed into thinking its a legitimate fight. Koscheck is going to run over Trigg.

And the main event is mediocre featuring 2 fighters who are NOT main event fighters. At least with Marquez/Mayweather it is a LEGIT fight between 2 amazing fighters. It may not have the style that will attract the casual fan but its a boxing fans dream fight. 2 of the most tactical fighters on the planet right now.

Mayweather/Marquez is going to tank in PPV's but thats because its just not a fight that appeals too much to the casual fan. But it is a great fight. And I wouldnt be surprised if the UFC does decent numbers (400,000) but the UFC does not have a better card than the boxing card. Its not even close.

UFC isnt the entire sport of MMA jackass and thats basically what you are saying when you claim Trigg hasnt been relevant in 4 years. He beat down Mayhem Miller to become the Icon Sports Champion and dominated Kazuo Misaki just 3 months after Misake won the Pride GP.

[Dave_j1985]

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here's the rest of the card
Mike Swick Vs. Martin Kampmann
Efrain Escudero Vs. Cole Miller
Josh Koscheck Vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin Vs. Hermes Franca

If crocop vs dos santos and franklin vs henderson completes this card then this PPV will not be that good.

Swick-Kampmann= ok fight
Koscheck-Trigg= ok
Griffin-Franca= good fight

The fight card doesn't look all that good. This is better off being free on spike. UFC really need to start showing more free fights cuz some fight cards are not PPV material.


I think it looks like a great card, some good fights here. I think you're a tight ass!

[ryanty22]

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here's the rest of the card
Mike Swick Vs. Martin Kampmann
Efrain Escudero Vs. Cole Miller
Josh Koscheck Vs. Frank Trigg
Tyson Griffin Vs. Hermes Franca

If crocop vs dos santos and franklin vs henderson completes this card then this PPV will not be that good.

Swick-Kampmann= ok fight
Koscheck-Trigg= ok
Griffin-Franca= good fight

The fight card doesn't look all that good. This is better off being free on spike. UFC really need to start showing more free fights cuz some fight cards are not PPV material.

sounds like a good card but i thought crocop pissed off dana with the one fight contract and then going somewhere else

[chimba]

John/Juarez 2 (great 1st fight) is I believe supposed to be on that card. Judah/Hatton(brother) is okay and on that card.

Dos Santos/Crocop nobody cares about because Crocop hasnt been relevant in awhile. Nobody actually thinks he can become anything at this point of his career. Franca/Griffin good lightweight fight, Trigg/Koscheck? What the hell? Are they serious? Trigg hasnt been relevant in 4 years. How could anybody actually be excited to see this bout and have the nerve to say the boxing card only has 1 fight? And Escudero/Miller? C'mon man, dont be stupid. UFC is the ultimate hype machine. They bring in a rusty veteran like Trigg and throw him at Koscheck for an easy win and UFC fans are so brainwashed into thinking its a legitimate fight. Koscheck is going to run over Trigg.

And the main event is mediocre featuring 2 fighters who are NOT main event fighters. At least with Marquez/Mayweather it is a LEGIT fight between 2 amazing fighters. It may not have the style that will attract the casual fan but its a boxing fans dream fight. 2 of the most tactical fighters on the planet right now.

Mayweather/Marquez is going to tank in PPV's but thats because its just not a fight that appeals too much to the casual fan. But it is a great fight. And I wouldnt be surprised if the UFC does decent numbers (400,000) but the UFC does not have a better card than the boxing card. Its not even close.

I like to see JDS/Cop fight because as far gone as Crocop is, he can still expose an unproven stand up talent like JDS if hes really focused on the fight. Also this is because I like JDS as well, hes one of the few promising "real" prospects out there, you cant miss that, its rare.

For boxing fans Id say that JMM/Floyd is an intriguing fight although it has a shot to be very one sided. The type of fight that the gen forum would trash as a disgrace right after lol. As for John/Rocky gosh I see enough 2nd tier talent in MMA. I was a willing fan of John, thought this guy was super slick..that is until Juarez gave him a tough fight. Hatton/Judah could have had some weight if it was Ricky in there.

The bottom line is, no ones buying this fight besides true boxing fans with money. Id watch it for sure. and Id love JMM to pull an upset. But for MMA fans, this fight means nothing. I cant say that true boxing fans werent at the very least intrigued with Brock/Mir

[cdnboxing]

UFC isnt the entire sport of MMA jackass and thats basically what you are saying when you claim Trigg hasnt been relevant in 4 years. He beat down Mayhem Miller to become the Icon Sports Champion and dominated Kazuo Misaki just 3 months after Misake won the Pride GP.

Yes im well aware that UFC is not MMA. But im not stupid enough to think that the UFC doesnt have the best stable of WW's.

Trigg beat Misaki? Well done, he beat a guy who has about 10 losses on his record. And woo, Icon Sports champion, I take that back, thats obviously the pinnacle of MMA. And he than lost to Robbie Lawler who is about as one-dimensional as you can get in his only title defense.

The guy has not fought the opposition that Koscheck fought in the past few years. Koscheck is going to wipe right through Trigg. And I dont even care for Koscheck.

I do know that this fight is laughable though.

[cdnboxing]

I like to see JDS/Cop fight because as far gone as Crocop is, he can still expose an unproven stand up talent like JDS if hes really focused on the fight. Also this is because I like JDS as well, hes one of the few promising "real" prospects out there, you cant miss that, its rare.

For boxing fans Id say that JMM/Floyd is an intriguing fight although it has a shot to be very one sided. The type of fight that the gen forum would trash as a disgrace right after lol. As for John/Rocky gosh I see enough 2nd tier talent in MMA. I was a willing fan of John, thought this guy was super slick..that is until Juarez gave him a tough fight. Hatton/Judah could have had some weight if it was Ricky in there.

The bottom line is, no ones buying this fight besides true boxing fans with money. Id watch it for sure. and Id love JMM to pull an upset. But for MMA fans, this fight means nothing. I cant say that true boxing fans werent at the very least intrigued with Brock/Mir

Everybody wants to watch Brock because their only memory of this guy is jumping off turnbuckles and hitting people over the head with steel chairs.

By no means, do I think the Mayweather/Marquez fight will be the most exciting fight of the year but its an intriguing fight and thats all that really matters. Marquez is my favourite fighter, Mayweather is my pick though but I do think it will be competitive. I care more about the main event. I dont care about 2 unranked, young fighters like Miller/Escudero fight on the main card. I will most certainly find a place to watch it the next day...FOR FREE but i'm not paying for a card that has fights like that. Its embarassing.

And im not sold on JDS at all but frankly Crocop is just not the same fighter. Crocop needs to let his hands go. Just needs to be more aggressive. If JDS were to beat Crocop it would only look good on his resume but shouldnt do anything to validate him as an elite fighter. I think many fighters in the UFC HW stable would beat Crocop. This is frankly a non-relevant fight, UFC is just using a big name to put up against a young fighter JDS to get this guy some more recognition. Thats the bottom line.

And all the other fights are crap with the exception of Franca/Griffin and Franklin/Hendo is not a main event fight. And I actually like Franklin alot but I understand his limitations.

[LB3000]

There are rumours floating around that there could be changes to this event. There is talk of Franklin vs Tito and Hendo vs Belfort.

[jimmie]

There are rumours floating around that there could be changes to this event. There is talk of Franklin vs Tito and Hendo vs Belfort.

Why do a Belfort vs Henderson rematch though ? Henderson was in control the entire fight im not sure Belfort landed a single kick or punch all he was able to was hit 1-2 sweeps.

[Rattler]

Why do a Belfort vs Henderson rematch though ? Henderson was in control the entire fight im not sure Belfort landed a single kick or punch all he was able to was hit 1-2 sweeps.

Since they're not in a hurry to give Hendo a title shot, but want to reward him for his recent run, they feed him a guy who can help sell tickets but not get in the way of Dan getting that shot at Silva in the near future; all the while getting him a fight in there to keep him on point.