View Full Version : LIGHTWEIGHT TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND, Shane Mosley vs Henry Armstrong
teeto
07-22-2009, 07:11 PM
15 rounds, 8 oz gloves
If you don't give a reason then your answer won't be counted.
Sweet Pea
07-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Is it possible Shane's size, strength, speed, and power could spell doom for Armstrong, or would Armstrong's unrelenting stamina pose too difficult a test for the weight-weakened Mosley over 15 rounds? I think I'll go with the more proven commodity at the weight in Armstrong, especially seeing as how he proved so successful against larger men. Could be wrong, though.
la-califa
07-22-2009, 07:42 PM
Armstrong's high volume of punches give him the slight edge here. Mosley backpeddling is not as effective(however slightly). as against Forrest & Cotto. Armstrong has to be careful as Shane is very fast & hits hard. Armstrong stays out of serious trouble to get a Decision win.
teeto
07-22-2009, 07:45 PM
Armstrong might play into Shane's hands, he's rapid, good inside, hits hard in my opinion and finds the mark well. But Shane also never did too well going backwards, would he have to here? He might. It's a war, that much i know. Armstrong at this weight has workrate to boot, i'm torn maybe more so than with any other fight thus far.
Armstrong ud, shit.
PH|LLA
07-22-2009, 10:27 PM
Armstrong all day. Mosley likes to brawl and Armstrong will take it to him. Mosley will ever be able to clinch and/or counter perpetual motion. Armstrong will duck and dodge most of Mosly's offense anyways.
Armstrong by stoppage.
natonic
07-22-2009, 10:46 PM
I like Armstrong by late stoppage. I think Armstrong against a bigger, more expereinced Mosely at 140 or 147 would be a great fight, but I think Armstrong would be too much for the relatively green Mosely at 135. Mosely didn't really have any great wins at 135 and I just think he'd have trouble keeping Armstrong off of him (who didn't). Inexperience at infighting and clinching would lead to an accumlative breaking down of Mosely.
sweet_scientist
07-22-2009, 11:06 PM
I like Armstrong for his better defense more than anything else. Shane would do well though, and land his fair share, but not as much as Armstrong and Henry will shade most rounds. 10-5 Armstrong.
Bummy Davis
07-22-2009, 11:48 PM
I think Shane starts fast but so does Henry and Armstrongs work rate get to him by the 10th rd. and Henry finishes strong for a close UD
Rattler
07-23-2009, 12:09 AM
I'm betting that if anybody swallows a couple pints of blood in this fight it's gonna be Sugar Shane.
Armstrong - UD
BENNY BLANCO
07-23-2009, 01:01 AM
This is a hard fight to for me to choose a winner. One thing Shane will struggle with is that alot of his body work that he is known for will be neutralized because Armstong covered up his body so well with his elbows and was usually in a crouching position that made it even harder to get in any good body shot. But Armstrong left his dome open which is never good against Mosley who's outbursts of speedy power punches would be a target for and I believe Shane will outhustle Armstrong for a close UD due to being the bigger man.
PetethePrince
07-23-2009, 01:08 AM
Armstrong's effective swarming aggression will be far too much for Mosley. We know he can take relenting pressure (As such against Magarito) but he won't be able to take the calculated rush from someone like Armstrong. Too much, and the later rounds would prove that. Armstrong UD
kmcc505
07-23-2009, 01:26 AM
Pretty tought match up for a first round, but Armstrong takes the decision with his volume punching and great inside fighting. Shane uses his hand speed and power to make things interesting, but Hammerin Hank is just too good.
Mr Butt
07-23-2009, 06:41 AM
armstrong out works mosley all night to win ud
Flea Man
07-23-2009, 07:05 AM
I think Mosley's superior speed would allow him to flurry on Armstrong on the inside more effectively. Mosley wins the decision, but looks worse by the end.
McGrain
07-23-2009, 07:17 AM
Armstrong would win a UD. He'd out-land Mosley in every round.
PowerPuncher
07-23-2009, 07:50 AM
Mosley loves his opponent to come to him, loves it. His faster hands will land first and he'll have 100s of countering opportunities. Not to mention he'll be far far stronger and bigger than Armstrong and be able to knock him back with his shots. Mosley's power and body attack would also be serious weapons.
People also forget Mosley looked at his best at 135, he just looked something else at that weight.
People are talking about Armstrong's amazing stamina which is a given but don't forget Shane had seriously great stamina back at 135.
Mosley wins this, probably a UD but might even stops Armstrong after an accumulation and I know Armstrong wasnt stopped in his prime but Mosley is all wrong for him. The nearest fighter Armstrong faced to Mosley was Robinson and the Real Sugar man supposedly carried him
Flea Man
07-23-2009, 08:00 AM
Mosley loves his opponent to come to him, loves it. His faster hands will land first and he'll have 100s of countering opportunities. Not to mention he'll be far far stronger and bigger than Armstrong and be able to knock him back with his shots. Mosley's power and body attack would also be serious weapons.
People also forget Mosley looked at his best at 135, he just looked something else at that weight.
People are talking about Armstrong's amazing stamina which is a given but don't forget Shane had seriously great stamina back at 135.
Mosley wins this, probably a UD but might even stops Armstrong after an accumulation and I know Armstrong wasnt stopped in his prime but Mosley is all wrong for him. The nearest fighter Armstrong faced to Mosley was Robinson and the Real Sugar man supposedly carried him
Armstrong was [past prime against Ray Robinson and Mosley fought NO ONE at 135
Minotauro
07-23-2009, 08:43 AM
I don't think Mosley has the experience at this weight to deal with a guy like Armstrong who would outwork him especially down the stretch. Although Mosley's size and power would be very difficult to overcome. Armstrong via decision.
mcvey
07-23-2009, 09:37 AM
Armstrong takes it on workrate.A majority decision,in fight of the year.
smitty_son408
07-23-2009, 09:53 AM
Shane doesn't possess the jab nor generalship to dwart Armstrong's relentless attack. He gets battered and pisses blood for a week afterward.
Armstrong UD or late corner stoppage.
PowerPuncher
07-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Armstrong was [past prime against Ray Robinson and Mosley fought NO ONE at 135
Mosley fought 9 championship fights and plenty of top 10 ranked opponents at 135. HE didn't get superfights but his dominations and subsequent performances at 147 say all we need to know. Plus he was a massive puncher at 135 too.
Armstrong was past prime against Robinson, but not that past his prime as he had some of his career best wins around that point (ie Zivic for 1)
PowerPuncher
07-23-2009, 10:09 AM
Just so we
Speed Hand/Foot: Shane (by a margin)
Strength: Shane (considerably so)
Power: Shane
Counter Punching: Shane
Defense: Equal
Height: Shane (3inches)
Reach: Shane (7inches)
Stamina/Workrate: Armstrong (but this gives more countering opportunities and Shane had great stamina himself)
Chin: Both top chins but I'd go with Mosley
I really want to hear how Armstrong's going to win this other than, he outworks him to a UD, because Mosley can easily hang with someone who throws 100shots a round, will hurt Armstong more than Henry can hurt him to both the body and head, will beat Armstrong to the punch, counter Armstrong when Henry comes forward and throws his own shots and push Armstrong around the ring.
This is just a case of a good big man beats a good small man
Flea Man
07-23-2009, 10:47 AM
Mosley fought 9 championship fights and plenty of top 10 ranked opponents at 135. HE didn't get superfights but his dominations and subsequent performances at 147 say all we need to know. Plus he was a massive puncher at 135 too.
Armstrong was past prime against Robinson, but not that past his prime as he had some of his career best wins around that point (ie Zivic for 1)
Like Holliday for instance? Get outta here
sweet_scientist
07-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Like Holliday for instance? Get outta here
Manuel Gomez lasted 11 rounds, I give Hank the benefit of the doubt and say he lasts 12 rounds.
Flea Man
07-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Manuel Gomez lasted 11 rounds, I give Hank the benefit of the doubt and say he lasts 12 rounds.
this is a 15 rounder I think but I get your point:lol:
Bill Butcher
07-23-2009, 05:56 PM
15 rounds, 8 oz gloves
If you don't give a reason then your answer won't be counted.
In that case, Mosely likes to mix it up too much & even if he tried sticking & moving, he doesnt have the slickness or defensive ability to not come out worse.
There would be no escape from an inside fight IMO due to styles & Armstrong is far too active.
Armstrong W15 Mosely
Bill Butcher
07-23-2009, 06:04 PM
Mosley loves his opponent to come to him, loves it.
Not on this night, `come to him` would be an understatement on this night.
BENNY BLANCO
07-23-2009, 09:04 PM
Like Holliday for instance? Get outta here The Phillip Holliday fight was an off night for Shane, it was'nt like Holliday did anything special to make Shane look bad.
Flea Man
07-24-2009, 05:19 AM
The Phillip Holliday fight was an off night for Shane, it was'nt like Holliday did anything special to make Shane look bad.
was making a comment on his quality of opposition rather than his performances. i myself picked Shane.
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