Is zab judah shot????

[unitas]

HE didnt look much better than matt hatton ( rickys brother) in outpointing this journeyman.

and matt is viewed basically as a domestic level fighter in britain.

judah on the other hand is supposed to be world class.

did the kockout to cotto break him????

[Lance_Uppercut]

Judah was never world class IMHO. It takes more then beating Corey Spinks in my eyes. You become WORLD CLASS with consistent BIG WINS against the TOP GUYS, not ONE which gives you three belts you lose right away...

[jopez707]

I don't buy that Cotto ruined him, the problems were there way before the Cotto fight. He has turned into a 6 rounds fighter at this point in his career, he can give you hell for 6 rounds or so, but if you weather the storm and pressure him; he will fold.

[Toopretty]

HE didnt look much better than matt hatton ( rickys brother) in outpointing this journeyman.

and matt is viewed basically as a domestic level fighter in britain.

judah on the other hand is supposed to be world class.

did the kockout to cotto break him????

Judah was toying with this guy...Matt Hatton was in the fight of his life by far not dominating... You can see Judah in there trying new things in the ring like THE NO EXISTANT body attack that he was wearing his guy down and not trying to blast him out. Judah was testing himself in there.....MORONS>

[TroubleLurks]

Judah was toying with this guy...Matt Hatton was in the fight of his life by far not dominating... You can see Judah in there trying new things in the ring like THE NO EXISTANT body attack that he was wearing his guy down and not trying to blast him out. Judah was testing himself in there.....MORONS>Exactly. He was just getting rounds in. When he decided he wanted to stop the guy in the 8th, he almost did. Judah is not shot IMO, far from it.

[nervousxtian]

Judah looked tentative in there, that's for damn sure. He shoulda took this cat out, but for whatever reason he didn't really go for it outside of one round.

Be it the hand, the cut, whatever, no excuses for not KO'ing this guy, but he ain't shot, and could still give most top guys hell.

[Danny Ocean]

he was never world class

[Kolya]

Christ, you guys really don't get the idea of getting rounds in and trying new stuff against someone you can dominate, do you? It happens in both amateurs and pros. For example, I know a guy with over 150 amateur fights who went to the Olympic Trials this year, and he went the full 4 rounds with someone in his 5th fight earlier this year. Does that mean he sucks or is no good? No; he was trying to get ring time in to stay sharp and work on stuff he wanted to work on.

[Kolya]

what did he wanted to work on?! taunting?!

Getting rounds? Sticking to a game plan throughout a fight? Going 10 without having some sort of meltdown and staying focused on the fight?

[psychopath]

Is zab judah shot????

Isn't it obvious? :think

[psychopath]

Who's worse, Cotto fans or Pacquiao fans?

Does that answer the thread's question?

Fuck you! I'm a fan of both.

:finger

[Vex_id]

HE didnt look much better than matt hatton ( rickys brother) in outpointing this journeyman.

and matt is viewed basically as a domestic level fighter in britain.

judah on the other hand is supposed to be world class.

did the kockout to cotto break him????

LOL @ the obvious judah prejudice...

comparing this fight to the matt hatton fight is astounding logic...

matt hatton was in there fighting his ass off to win that fight - judah was toying w/ this dude and had his hands dropped for enitre round (round 6)...

the only reason there was no knockout was because judah's opponent chose not to take any real risks and instead just wanted to survive 10 rounds...

judah showed poise and showed he could box for a full fight w/ out losing stamina.

good showing by Zab.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Who's worse, Cotto fans or Pacquiao fans?


Here's a list of idiot fans in order.

1.Pacquiao fans.
2.Maweather fans
3.Calzaghe fans
4.Klitshcko fan

[Amsterdam]

Here's a list of idiot fans in order.

1.Pacquiao fans.
2.Maweather fans
3.Calzaghe fans
4.Klitshcko fan

Most are knowledgable.

[RDJ]

Most are knowledgable.

They think Calzaghe actually punches :huh

[Toopretty]

LOL @ the obvious judah prejudice...

comparing this fight to the matt hatton fight is astounding logic...

matt hatton was in there fighting his ass off to win that fight - judah was toying w/ this dude and had his hands dropped for enitre round (round 6)...

the only reason there was no knockout was because judah's opponent chose not to take any real risks and instead just wanted to survive 10 rounds...

judah showed poise and showed he could box for a full fight w/ out losing stamina.

good showing by Zab.

:good:good

And if any of these dickheads knew the purpose of the taunting as did everyone on espn including Roy and Atlas and everybody he was not showboating he was trying to sucker the guy into being aggressive and take a risk so he could counter him or possibly taunt back so judah could catch him.thats why he dropped his hands and did that for an opening. An old school move as they come..Judah was not trying to embarass the guy..the guy took 0 risks and fought the perfect fight for his ability with judah..only a monkey fucking idiot could say otherwise..So I guess Joe Calzaghe is shot for not knocking out Manfredo with a real punch or Baika who gave him hell. He is a contender fighter..:nut:nut:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[He Hate Me]

this guy is a 36 year old with 7 fights in the last 7 years!!! cotto ruined judah!!!

Judah is flawed but to go out and give cotto all of the credit is not responsible.:-(

[Lance_Uppercut]

Most are knowledgable.

Yeah, according to you CJH is one of the most knowledgable posters here. :lol::lol:

[Amsterdam]

Yeah, according to you CJH is one of the most knowledgable posters here. :lol::lol:

He is.

[Lance_Uppercut]

He is.
He's Bigtime9. You just don't see because you're PimpC. :deal

[radianttwilight]

Was anyone else semi-impressed by Judah's competitor? I mean, I expected Zab to KO this guy early early early, he looked like another can for the lineup before the match. I think Judah won most every round..but not by a huge margin, and whoever (I can't even remember the guy's name!) was fighting him did a good job on defense and keeping his hands up, not letting Zab taunt him in R6 with the hands-down.

The whole fight he circled to his left and avoided that power hand, and I have to give the guy credit...Zab looked FAST that night (and we all know he is when he's on his game), but this guy looked pretty close, in comparison.

I only watched to about round 8 though, I fell asleep :D So maybe the guy sucked in the last two rounds, but I was impressed by the first few rounds. Did Zab get hurt in an early/mid round? I seem to remember a time about round 3/4/5 where Zab just threw up a high guard and leaned forward, and the other guy just pounded bodyshots...I dunno if Zab was hit there, but it seemed awkward that a guy who was hopping around the ring all night would suddenly turtle up.

[maciek4]

I believe Zab Judah is shot after the beatings he took from Mayweather and especially Miguel Cotto. Its hard not to be shot after Cotto gets done with you. That beating he took from Cotto was horrendous. For almost the entire fight he ate punch after punch.

[buddynabuick]

what did he wanted to work on?! taunting?!



:lol:that and keeping his hands down like VB. he should stick to throwing dice. Seriously though, he looked pretty good when he kept his guard up. A lot of street fighters fight like that (like VB). I guess they think it looks dope lol or how ever you say it.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I won't say he's shot. Shot is when you lose to guys you would no way lose to in your prime.

[maciek4]

I won't say he's shot. Shot is when you lose to guys you would no way lose to in your prime.
I believe this is what we are going to see, when he steps up and starts fighting top 20 guys.

[Supreme]

Zab isnt shot hes just been exposed as a fighter that isnt good enough to beat the cream of the crop basically.

[rodney]

Zab Judah is a real good fighter.
It just so happens that there are also a few other real good fighters out there.
Zab just happens to be fighting most of them.

[brooklyn1550]

He's not shot, just not as good as he once was. I truly don't consider him elite anymore.

[Mundo]

those of you who think judah is shot must have not seen the penida (spelling?) chop chop, and Baldomir fight...

CARBON COPIES

this is judah!

he fights in spurts, doesnt have an offensive plan or tacticts outside of trying to land his big shots...

its judah

[Chert]

judah has never been elite... his loss to baldo proved it. he has never won against the elite fighters he faced (e.g. tszuyu, pbf, cotto) and to be elite, you have to beat the elite. he's just a good B-level fighter with a bad attitude.

[41fever]

He looked pretty good combacking from a rough long fight with the body killer, Cotto.

[JustinD]

Judah tends to fight down to his opponents level, the better the fighter, the better he fights usually.

[psychopath]

Judah tends to fight down to his opponents level, the better the fighter, the better he fights usually.

Yeah right he always fight down to his opponents level . . . he just fought a tomato can . . . so he fought just like a tomato can. :D

When it's time to fight a level above the opponents level to win the fight . . . he can't. :yep :rofl