The Hammer comes out to Born in the U.S.A. [Archive]

sandwichsurgeon

09-08-2007, 05:04 PM

Retard. Take your shit elsewhere.

Exactly the kind of response I expected, you are too easy to manipulate:deal

J_Roth

09-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Exactly the kind of response I expected, you are too easy to manipulate:dealLame. All I'm saying is that this thread is for the fight not for propaganda. Piss off. :deal

J_Roth

09-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Bullshit. Hamill won.Agreed.

GazOC

09-08-2007, 05:07 PM

Bullshit. Hamill won.

Agreed.

eze

09-08-2007, 05:13 PM

I am missing all these fights because my cable is down, so I'm listening to all the spoilers. How exactly do you feel Hamill won? My opinion on the ground game differs a lot from most. Was he just laying on him and Bisping attempting subs and such? If so regardless of top position Bisping won? Or did Hamill actually outstrike him?

The fight wasen't on the ground that much at all.

7/10ths of the fight was standing and Hamil kicked his ass doing it. The only time Bisping looked good was when he threw punches that were blocked and/or barely touching. (Where you throw a punch and your fist just touches him)

eze

09-08-2007, 05:15 PM

Also on the ground, Hamil was beating him, moving him when he wanted. And Hamil repeatedly let Bisping stand up so that they could trade punches and Hamill rocked Bisping a few times.

GazOC

09-08-2007, 05:18 PM

I am missing all these fights because my cable is down, so I'm listening to all the spoilers. How exactly do you feel Hamill won? My opinion on the ground game differs a lot from most. Was he just laying on him and Bisping attempting subs and such? If so regardless of top position Bisping won? Or did Hamill actually outstrike him?

You may find this surprising but it was largely a stand up fight up until the 3rd. Hamill had a big first round standing up. You could make a case for Bisping getting a share of the 2nd (or winning it if you're feeling generous). The last round Hamill seemed to tire, Bisping did better standing up but got taken down and dominated so I gave Hamill the round IMHO.

J_Roth

09-08-2007, 05:20 PM

You may find this surprising but it was largely a stand up fight up until the 3rd. Hamill had a big first round standing up. You could make a case for Bisping getting a share of the 2nd (or winning it if you're feeling generous). The last round Hamill seemed to tire, Bisping did better standing up but got taken down and dominated so I gave Hamill the round IMHO.I scored it as 1st and 3rd Matt 2nd Bisping. 29-28 Matt.

GazOC

09-08-2007, 05:23 PM

I scored it as 1st and 3rd Matt 2nd Bisping. 29-28 Matt.

Thats pretty much what I had it. I guess the two judges gave Bisping the 3rd as well?

Bisping came across as a bit of a dick in the post fight interview as well.

J_Roth

09-08-2007, 05:25 PM

Thats pretty much what I had it. I guess the two judges gave Bisping the 3rd as well?

Bisping came across as a bit of a dick in the post fight interview as well.Yes he did. Not really wanting to admit how bad he was rocked. Matt caught him with some nice shots.

GazOC

09-08-2007, 05:28 PM

Yes he did. Not really wanting to admit how bad he was rocked. Matt caught him with some nice shots.

What annoyed me was that he offered Hamill is hand after the fight and gave him a hug and started talking shit about him straight afterwards. I'd have had more repect for him if he's have refused to shake hands and talked shit, its least its being 'straight' with someone.

J_Roth

09-08-2007, 05:32 PM

He was handling Hamill in the standup in the last round, so Hamill took him down and rode the time out? I don't have a problem with the judges giving it to Bisping then.I don't think it's quite so black and white. It really could have gone either way tho. 2nd and 3rd were close.

GazOC

09-08-2007, 05:42 PM

He was handling Hamill in the standup in the last round, so Hamill took him down and rode the time out? I don't have a problem with the judges giving it to Bisping then.

I gave the 3rd to Hamill, he was tired in the stand up (so was Bisping) but took it the ground and did some good work there.

The first was undenialby Hammils, he should def AT LEAST got a share of either the 2nd or the 3rd to earn a draw.

hitman_hatton1

09-08-2007, 06:04 PM

I scored it as 1st and 3rd Matt 2nd Bisping. 29-28 Matt.

yeah same as me.

not a big UFC fan.

but i think bisping deffo got lucky there. :yep

GazOC

09-08-2007, 06:08 PM

yeah same as me.

not a big UFC fan.

but i think bisping deffo got lucky there. :yep

I'd guess you're in the same boat as me, just trying to get your monies worth out of Setanta after ordering the Castillo fight?

Burundanga

09-08-2007, 06:19 PM

Bullshit. Hamill won.

Agreed.

What's worst is Bisping was not even gracious in "victory"

What a tool.

I picked Bisping to win and liked the dude as well.

Fuck him. No class.

He lost and still ran his mouth.

onceagain

09-08-2007, 07:29 PM

i don't think sandwichsurgeon has a fuckin clue on how much that song actually has to do with vietnam. maybe he should listen to the lyrics once in a while?

either way fuck him for being a faggot and using every little thing to promote his political agenda.. what a piece of trash :verysad

Beebs

09-09-2007, 12:07 AM

He was handling Hamill in the standup in the last round, so Hamill took him down and rode the time out? I don't have a problem with the judges giving it to Bisping then.

Not what happened at all, Hamill took the center of the octagon, bloodied up both of Bispings eyes early, threw him to the ground whenever Bisping kicked, and he definitely did not ride out the time, he actually let Bisping up off the ground intentionally.

He got jobbed, even the UK fans thought so.

AJAX

09-09-2007, 12:14 AM

Not what happened at all, Hamill took the center of the octagon, bloodied up both of Bispings eyes early, threw him to the ground whenever Bisping kicked, and he definitely did not ride out the time, he actually let Bisping up off the ground intentionally.

He got jobbed, even the UK fans thought so.

right, they were booing after the fight because they assumed bisping lost. I think the count might want to try his hand at 185, Matt looked so much bigger then him in that fight.

yogster740

09-09-2007, 12:22 AM

Whats up homies....all the shit aside I though Hamill deserved the nod 2v1, the boy is a f'n mule, the buck up strength, head unbelievable obsorbtion....

Wilhelm

09-09-2007, 01:29 AM

Not what happened at all, Hamill took the center of the octagon, bloodied up both of Bispings eyes early, threw him to the ground whenever Bisping kicked, and he definitely did not ride out the time, he actually let Bisping up off the ground intentionally.

He got jobbed, even the UK fans thought so. :bart

I don't think it's quite so black and white. It really could have gone either way tho. 2nd and 3rd were close. :nod

Boyd

09-09-2007, 07:12 AM

He was handling Hamill in the standup in the last round, so Hamill took him down and rode the time out? I don't have a problem with the judges giving it to Bisping then.jesus man. that's not what happened at all. Hamill beat him at his own game, in front of his hometown fans, and got fucked in the decesion.

Urban Legend

09-09-2007, 07:36 AM

hamill won all three rounds his retard strength was too much for bisping and he beat him on the stand up, bisping landed more punches but hamills were a better quality

Club Fighter

09-09-2007, 10:54 AM

What annoyed me was that he offered Hamill is hand after the fight and gave him a hug and started talking shit about him straight afterwards. I'd have had more repect for him if he's have refused to shake hands and talked shit, its least its being 'straight' with someone.

Yeah, after the embrace it was a dirty tactic considering Hamil can't hear. He had no idea Bisping was on the mic making him sound like a jagoff/pushover. For all Hamil knew Bisping was singing him praises.