When Belfort Defeats Fedor, will Fedor's chances with the UFC be in jeapardy?

[rekcutnevets]

Most of us know that boxing is the superior sport to mma, therefore the integration of boxing techniques to one's style is most effective in MMA. Ray Mercer helped prove this point.

Belfort's boxing is superior to Fedor's, and Belfort will win for this reason. That, and Fedor's overratedness.

Will Dana White still be interested in Fedor when all this transpires?

[196osh]

:rofl

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[Rattler]

I can't figure out... is that the sweet scent of sarcasm I smell, or a heaping pile of bullshit?

[Mrboogie23]

Most of us know that boxing is the superior sport to mma, therefore the integration of boxing techniques to one's style is most effective in MMA. Ray Mercer helped prove this point.

Belfort's boxing is superior to Fedor's, and Belfort will win for this reason. That, and Fedor's overratedness.

Will Dana White still be interested in Fedor when all this transpires?


:rofl

[Polymath]

AIDS thread.

Trolling is supposed to be funny.

[boxingcar]

Ray Mercer helped prove this point.

Belfort's boxing is superior to Fedor's, and Belfort will win for this reason. That, and Fedor's overratedness.

Will Dana White still be interested in Fedor when all this transpires?

Tell that to Kimbo
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btw , even if Belfort beats Fedor... why would you give a shit ?
You say that he's overrated anyway....so why bother ?

I reality , you don't give a shit about fedor going to the ufc nor do you even give a shit about mma....

[rekcutnevets]

Mercer and Kimbo was an exhibition fight. It didn't count. If it were to count, there would be no shame. Kimbo is a real fighter, not a groper.

[boxingcar]

Oh wait..i see that you have a long history posting in the mma forum...

hmm....strange.

Still doesn't change the fact that you think he's overrated...and that your "mercer" logic is horseshit. And if it's supposed to be sarcasm...You totally missed the mark.

But hey , let's assume this shit happens...
1 - Dana will be happy...he'll finally be able to say that fedor was a bum all along...

2 - affliction goes to the shitter
3 - You'll be able to say "see..i told you so"...

So don't worry....in the worst case scenario..you'll still be happy

[rekcutnevets]

Let me repeat so we can get the order a little better: Mercer and Kimbo was an exhibition fight. It didn't count. If it were to count, there would be no shame. Kimbo is a real fighter, not a groper.

[Beebs]

I'd favor fedor in a boxing match 2-1, 4-1 with mma gloves.

[boxingcar]

Mercer and Kimbo was an exhibition fight. It didn't count. If it were to count, there would be no shame. Kimbo is a real fighter, not a groper.

Right....but then , if you're gonna play the "exhibition" excuse...then you also have to accept the "boxing" match excuse...as far as the sylvia vs mercer fight is concerned...because that's what it originally was...(they had to pass this one as an "mma" fight in order to make it happen)...

Sylvia's intention was to beat mercer at his own game...he originally wanted to ko him..... Any bum , ANY...can simply bull rush an opponent , take him on the ground , and finish the fight.

Kimbo proved it. And Kimbo is a nobody in the sport...a NOBODY.

Sure , he's probably one of the most popular participant...(almost on par with Lesnar)..and dana accepted to put him on the tuf show...but that's because he's a cash cow... and dana is a business man...

[boxingcar]

Not to mention....even if Belfort Kos Fedor out cold...it still wouldn't prove shit.

I'm sorry but you're an idiot.
And if you're gonna proclaim that Belfort KOing fedor "proves" boxing's superiority...

then you have a lot of explaining to do...
Because Belfort was submitted by Overeem....and was dominated by Couture ( On the ground....via wrestling domination)

it seems to me that you're as deluded as a creationist.

Confirmation bias for the win ! Keep it up !

[sugarngold]

Aw - you're just fucking around. You even misspelled the thread title on purpose. This is like counter-terrorism aimed to confuse the trolls from the General Forum.

[sugarngold]

And PBF is ducking and dodging Shane Mosley.

[boxingcar]

Aw - you're just fucking around. You even misspelled the thread title on purpose. This is like counter-terrorism aimed to confuse the trolls from the General Forum.

Not sarcasm. The misspelling of "jeapardy" is a typo. Nothing more.
But now that you mention it...I bet the guy will find an excuse and say that it was "sarcasm" from the start...

Too late for that though..

[QuestionKid7]

Pretty sure AA`s stand up and boxing (training with freddy roach) was much superior to fedor. Also almost positive andrei hits harder, yet fedor still somehow won.

I don`t want to see belfort vs fedor just due to the huge weight difference that is not a good fight.

[boxingcar]

Pretty sure AA`s stand up and boxing (training with freddy roach) was much superior to fedor. Also almost positive andrei hits harder, yet fedor still somehow won.

I don`t want to see belfort vs fedor just due to the huge weight difference that is not a good fight.

But anyway it's irrelevant... let's say Belfort somehow KO's fedor's ass...it still wouldn't prove shit...Because Belfort already lost by submission...

The guy was dominated because of jiujitsu & wrestling...
Threadstarter's logic is too easy and convenient. Belfort KOing emelianenko doesn't erases Belfort's past...

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by boxingcar
Kimbo proved it. And Kimbo is a nobody in the sport...a NOBODY.

Sure , he's probably one of the most popular participant...(almost on par with Lesnar)..and dana accepted to put him on the tuf show...but that's because he's a cash cow... and dana is a business man...One word, contradictory. Boy, you wish you had hair on your chest. That way you could shave part of it off, so you could emulate and honor a real man like Kimbo. Then you could look at your self in the mirror and jack off to the thought that a friend of yours might know who you're copying.

Posted by boxingcar
...and was dominated by CoutureCouture has boxing experience, and used his knowledge to set up the clinch.

Your posting name is more than 50% boxing.

[boxingcar]

One word, contradictory. Boy, you wish you had hair on your chest. That way you could shave part of it off, so you could emulate and honor a real man like Kimbo. Then you could look at your self in the mirror and jack off to the thought that a friend of yours might know who your were copying.


Couture has boxing experience, and used his knowledge to set up the clinch.

Your posting name is more than 50% boxing.

rekcutnevets , now this response sounds like sarcasm...true.
But i'm not convinced about your earlier replies...

The feeling i'm getting...Is that you realise that you fucked up.....Sugarngold almost saved your credibility with this one
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But that won't do...and you know it. And your last attempt to save face , is to finally opt for "sarcasm".

Sorry but i'm not convinced.

[Dynamite Kid]

Most of us know that boxing is the superior sport to mma, therefore the integration of boxing techniques to one's style is most effective in MMA. Ray Mercer helped prove this point.

Belfort's boxing is superior to Fedor's, and Belfort will win for this reason. That, and Fedor's overratedness.

Will Dana White still be interested in Fedor when all this transpires?

You're joking right? As in haha?:blood

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by boxingcar
rekcutnevets , now this response sounds like sarcasm...true.
But i'm not convinced about your earlier replies...

The feeling i'm getting...Is that you realise that you fucked up.....Sugarngold almost saved your credibility with this one
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But that won't do...and you know it. And your last attempt to save face , is to finally opt for "sarcasm".

Sorry but i'm not convinced.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything except the fact that boxing is god, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. is his prophet.

[boxingcar]

I'm not trying to convince you of anything except the fact that boxing is god, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. is his prophet.

Hyperboling ain't gonna convince me. As far as i'm concerned..You lost all credibility...

(to be honest... not that it matters ...afterall, it's just the internet...it's just a discussion forum , no harm done..)

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by Questionkid7
Pretty sure AA`s stand up and boxing (training with freddy roach) was much superior to fedor. Also almost positive andrei hits harder, yet fedor still somehow won.

Arlovski's stand up isn't any better than Tim Sylvia's. And Fedor beat Arlovski standing with a punch.

[300press]

This thread = :patsch

[Vitor Belfort]

Vitor is one of my all time faves but i can't see him beating fedor. He has good striking but so does fedor plus fedor has heavy hands and have great ground and pound. Vitor just like my other idol bj penn ran out of gas in the later rounds. That's why i dont think he can win this fight. Even if he survives fedor striking, i think he'll eventually ran out of gas and pretty much lose the fight.

[boxingcar]

Vitor is one of my all time faves but i can't see him beating fedor.

I can. Why not ?

No one thought Douglas would beat Tyson
Who would've thought....Rahman knocking Lennox out ?
GSP owned by Serra
Sokoudjou , beating Rogerio & Arona
Baldomir , beating Gatti & Judah
Abidi , beating Peter Aerts

Anything is possible , especially in this sport and fedor is just human.

Personally i'm giving fedor the advantage against anyone in this sport...But i'm very well aware that an upset is very possible...

[ufoalf]

GSP owned by Serra

This is a big one. GSP is light years ahead of Serra but it's a GREAT example of "anything can happen in MMA".

[liger05]

Never understood how anyone can say Fedor is overrateed. Just who does he need to beat to prove himself. Fank Mir? Brock Lesnar? Its absurd to think Fedor needs to beat them to prove himself as being #1

[ufoalf]

Never understood how anyone can say Fedor is overrateed. Just who does he need to beat to prove himself. Fank Mir? Brock Lesnar? Its absurd to think Fedor needs to beat them to prove himself as being #1


He's overrated in a sense that many people think he's unbeatable.

[boxingcar]

This is a big one. GSP is light years ahead of Serra but it's a GREAT example of "anything can happen in MMA".

yeah i know ...my mistake.
I meant to say serra owned GSP...(in their first fight)

[boxingcar]

Never understood how anyone can say Fedor is overrateed. Just who does he need to beat to prove himself. Fank Mir? Brock Lesnar? Its absurd to think Fedor needs to beat them to prove himself as being #1

But a huge majority of fans are gonna change their tune if Belfort or Rogers beat him though.

That's the thing with fedor's case....He's a very special one.
On one hand , you got a group who cannot wait to see him lose & label him as overrated , on the other , you have the deluded fans who think he's an invincible russian cyborg.

No matter what happens in the rest of emelianenko's career....win or lose , the guy undeniably , already has the most impressive career in the entire sport.

But i get the feeling that no one is gonna forgive him if he loses his next fight....even if he keeps on winning for years to come...tons of "fans" are patiently gonna wait for "the" loss...that everybody has been waiting for since 2001...

People can easily forget the blemishes on Penn's record...Or Couture's , Or GSP's....But it's not gonna work with fedor. Especially because he's not fighting in the UFC.

Dana white would be the first one to celebrate...

When GSP lost to Serra...it was a shock , but it happened in the ufc.

Fedor losing at affliction would be catastrophic...

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by boxingcar
Dana white would be the first one to celebrate...
I don't know about that. I don't know that White cares any about Fedor losing. I believe White wants the legitimacy Fedor brings to the title. White just doesn't want Fedor to defeat the UFC champ and leave the organization.

Posted by boxingcar
Fedor losing at affliction would be catastrophic...
Mostly to Fedor's strength at the negotiating table with the UFC. With 6 years atop the sport, I think his legacy will remain in tact.

[ufoalf]

But a huge majority of fans are gonna change their tune if Belfort or Rogers beat him though.

That's the thing with fedor's case....He's a very special one.
On one hand , you got a group who cannot wait to see him lose & label him as overrated , on the other , you have the deluded fans who think he's an invincible russian cyborg.

No matter what happens in the rest of emelianenko's career....win or lose , the guy undeniably , already has the most impressive career in the entire sport.

But i get the feeling that no one is gonna forgive him if he loses his next fight....even if he keeps on winning for years to come...tons of "fans" are patiently gonna wait for "the" loss...that everybody has been waiting for since 2001...

People can easily forget the blemishes on Penn's record...Or Couture's , Or GSP's....But it's not gonna work with fedor. Especially because he's not fighting in the UFC.

Dana white would be the first one to celebrate...

When GSP lost to Serra...it was a shock , but it happened in the ufc.

Fedor losing at affliction would be catastrophic...

Absolutely. MANY people have been itching to say "TOLD YOU SO" for a VERY long time. Dana White most of all. It will be a burden off of his shoulders and this point he can say "he lost to Belford/Rogers, he can't handle anyone in UFC".

[boxingcar]

Absolutely. MANY people have been itching to say "TOLD YOU SO" for a VERY long time. Dana White most of all. It will be a burden off of his shoulders and this point he can say "he lost to Belford/Rogers, he can't handle anyone in UFC".

Totally...

[rekcutnevets]

You guys suck.

I get so tired of stupid threads getting tons of play, that I wanted to make one for myself. The first few responses made me think I went way overboard. Then I thought you guys would take me several pages in.

I'm upset that I can't get 7 or more pages in, like a thread quoting a 5 year old article concerning Brock Lesnar's view of homosexuals did recently. No one mentioned the article was from 2004. Maybe Lesnar has changed. Maybe he's still afraid someone will question his manhood if someone holds his hand a second too long in a handshake. Who the fuck cares? I want to see Lesnar fight. I could give less than a shit about his view of homosexuals.

Am I supposed to care about Lesnar's view on health care? Maybe I should give a shit about his opinion on beefing up things in Afghanistan. Wait, let me guess, Lesnar has the answer to paying off the national deficit.

Fuck what Brock Lesnar has to say, unless it concerns who he is fighting in an mma event.