Why Ive been on ESB so long and why I finally realized that most posters......

[Toopretty]

Dont know crap about whats going on in the actual fight itself. You can tell none know the actual fight aspect of boxing..They spend there lives on Box Rec expecting kudos and scooby snacks for knowing who beat who and this or that guy was a great fighter. But can NEVER actually SEE what is going on in a fight or why so and so didnt knock out so and so and the other guy did. Funny how I now realize this...they spend time arguing who is the best of all time and fantasy matchups without even knowing there so called favorites fighters ring tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Time for a reality check:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

Wow...been here since August? That long huh?

[BigReg]

Wow...been here since August? That long huh?

Clearly he posted under another name

[Toopretty]

Wow...been here since August? That long huh?

GOING BY YOUR AVATAR...WHICH IS A GOOFBALL ONE THAT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID.. I BEEN HERE LONGER THEN YOU...POSTING ON THIS FORUM IS FOR AMUSEMENT..NOT SERIOUS AS POSTING ON ACTUAL ARTICLES WITH REAL TOPICS PERTAINING TO REAL FIGHTS AND NOT MYTH AND FOLKLORE..
SIGNED OFF TOO PRETTY AKA PRETTYBOY FROM ESB CLASS OF 2003-CURRENT

AS THE OLD FAMOUS RAY GORDON REID WOULD PUT...EASTSIDEY FROM WAYCROSS GEORGIA..ORANGE BOWL...1958 SHERIFFY RAY GORDON REID. CLASSIC SHIT.

[hopkinsfan07]

Dont know crap about whats going on in the actual fight itself. You can tell none know the actual fight aspect of boxing..They spend there lives on Box Rec expecting kudos and scooby snacks for knowing who beat who and this or that guy was a great fighter. But can NEVER actually SEE what is going on in a fight or why so and so didnt knock out so and so and the other guy did. Funny how I now realize this...they spend time arguing who is the best of all time and fantasy matchups without even knowing there so called favorites fighters ring tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Time for a reality check:deal

sounds like your talking about yourself there eh :huh :smoke

[Toopretty]

Yet... you're the one that regularly get's humiliated in public with your ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Curious... :nono

:rofl:rofl:rofl intellectual dishonesty..prove me wrong then say something anything i dare you....

[Lance_Uppercut]

GOING BY YOUR AVATAR...WHICH IS A GOOFBALL ONE THAT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID.. I BEEN HERE LONGER THEN YOU...POSTING ON THIS FORUM IS FOR AMUSEMENT..NOT SERIOUS AS POSTING ON ACTUAL ARTICLES WITH REAL TOPICS PERTAINING TO REAL FIGHTS AND NOT MYTH AND FOLKLORE..
SIGNED OFF TOO PRETTY AKA PRETTYBOY FROM ESB CLASS OF 2003-CURRENT

AS THE OLD FAMOUS RAY GORDON REID WOULD PUT...EASTSIDEY FROM WAYCROSS GEORGIA..ORANGE BOWL...1958 SHERIFFY RAY GORDON REID. CLASSIC SHIT.

Wow!! Using all caps makes you SMARTER!! :rofl

Posting longer then me? I've been here through two crashes. Probably since early 02'...

[Relentless]

hey too pretty shane mosley said he thinks floyd is boring and runs, is he a real fan of the sweet science?

[brooklyn1550]

There are good posters and bad posters, knowledgable posters and not-so-knowledgable posters, classy posters and annoying posters...mix them all together and you get a great forum.

[kg0208]

GOING BY YOUR AVATAR...WHICH IS A GOOFBALL ONE THAT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID.. I BEEN HERE LONGER THEN YOU...POSTING ON THIS FORUM IS FOR AMUSEMENT..NOT SERIOUS AS POSTING ON ACTUAL ARTICLES WITH REAL TOPICS PERTAINING TO REAL FIGHTS AND NOT MYTH AND FOLKLORE..
SIGNED OFF TOO PRETTY AKA PRETTYBOY FROM ESB CLASS OF 2003-CURRENT

AS THE OLD FAMOUS RAY GORDON REID WOULD PUT...EASTSIDEY FROM WAYCROSS GEORGIA..ORANGE BOWL...1958 SHERIFFY RAY GORDON REID. CLASSIC SHIT.
Sorry man, but Lance has been here longer than 2003. Hell, I was here in 2003 and Lance and Radar had nearly 5000 posts THEN before the crash. Widdow as well, along with Farmy and a few others.

[LeedsLad]

:rofl:rofl:rofl intellectual dishonesty..prove me wrong then say something anything i dare you....

Werent you the douche that argued for ages saying Tszyu wasnt a P4P fighter when Hatton beat him, when he was third?:good

[Lance_Uppercut]

Sorry man, but Lance has been here longer than 2003. Hell, I was here in 2003 and Lance and Radar had nearly 5000 posts THEN before the crash. Widdow as well, along with Farmy and a few others.

Thanks. I miss those days. Not so much for Radar and Widdow, but posters like Zivic1942 who was perhaps the most intelligent poster I can recall.

[kg0208]

Thanks. I miss those days. Not so much for Radar and Widdow, but posters like Zivic1942 who was perhaps the most intelligent poster I can recall.

I remember Zivic. But not well. I only posted part of the time then because I got a sour taste in my mouth on my very first post dealing with Farmboxer. I also didn't realize that this website was more international. I didn't have a problem with that, but I had never encounted being disliked or called bias simply because I was American.

It has it's ups and downs here....always has, always will.

[Robbi]

The guy who started this thread is a wind up merchant. And I aint falling for it.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I remember Zivic. But not well. I only posted part of the time then because I got a sour taste in my mouth on my very first post dealing with Farmboxer. I also didn't realize that this website was more international. I didn't have a problem with that, but I had never encounted being disliked or called bias simply because I was American.

It has it's ups and downs here....always has, always will.

Man, I hated Farmboxer when I first came here. He was always up on Roy's ass. ROID Jones.. :patsch

He's more an afterthought now really.

Glad you stayed. You've put a sever beating on some posters of late. :thumbsup

[kg0208]

Man, I hated Farmboxer when I first came here. He was always up on Roy's ass. ROID Jones.. :patsch

He's more an afterthought now really.

Glad you stayed. You've put a sever beating on some posters of late. :thumbsup

You know, I hate those threads where it ends up being a throwdown.

I like the ones where you may disagree, go back and forth with point and counterpoint and then in the end it's "Well lets wait and see" or "I see your points, but just don't agree" and everyone moves on.

Nowadays, everyone is quick to judge, and even with proof in their face, they deny to the end. Not opinionated proof, but cold hard facts. You know, Bigtime calls me a PBF hater, and Dominga calls me a PBF lover.

The guy who called Pacman overrated said I was a Pac lover, and then last night I was called a Pac Hater.:deal Gotta love ESB.

[kg0208]

I like Americans. I'd like to give you all a big hug.

Lol...Hey, I understand that some Americans are biased. Some Euro's are biased. I just don't get judging a poster on that and not his views and what he posts.

[He Hate Me]

Dont know crap about whats going on in the actual fight itself. You can tell none know the actual fight aspect of boxing..They spend there lives on Box Rec expecting kudos and scooby snacks for knowing who beat who and this or that guy was a great fighter. But can NEVER actually SEE what is going on in a fight or why so and so didnt knock out so and so and the other guy did. Funny how I now realize this...they spend time arguing who is the best of all time and fantasy matchups without even knowing there so called favorites fighters ring tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Time for a reality check:deal

1700 plus post in one maybe two months, dude get a life.

[buddynabuick]

There are good posters and bad posters, knowledgable posters and not-so-knowledgable posters, classy posters and annoying posters...mix them all together and you get a great forum.



:good

[kg0208]

it's the same as when some US posters claim supporting Calzaghe is all on a country-first bias. I hold no truck with it - it's the same in any industry where the US dominates the business: they will be US-centric - it's logical.

If the US media gives little exposure to euro fighters then how would the mainstream public know them?

You can tell very fast when someone is country-biased, usually when the usual "Fighter X is unproven because he hasn't fought in the US" line appears.

But I couldn't care less where someone comes from when I'm discussing something with them - I only get annoyed when the insults start flying because someone deigns to disagree.

Half this forum doesn't know what "deigns" means:deal

[buddynabuick]

The guy who started this thread is a wind up merchant. And I aint falling for it.



well said:good

[buddynabuick]

You know, I hate those threads where it ends up being a throwdown.

I like the ones where you may disagree, go back and forth with point and counterpoint and then in the end it's "Well lets wait and see" or "I see your points, but just don't agree" and everyone moves on.

Nowadays, everyone is quick to judge, and even with proof in their face, they deny to the end. Not opinionated proof, but cold hard facts. You know, Bigtime calls me a PBF hater, and Dominga calls me a PBF lover.

The guy who called Pacman overrated said I was a Pac lover, and then last night I was called a Pac Hater.:deal Gotta love ESB.



Yeah, i don't care for all the attacks. we can disagree and still b:goode civil.

[Decker]

You know, I hate those threads where it ends up being a throwdown.

I like the ones where you may disagree, go back and forth with point and counterpoint and then in the end it's "Well lets wait and see" or "I see your points, but just don't agree" and everyone moves on.

Nowadays, everyone is quick to judge, and even with proof in their face, they deny to the end. Not opinionated proof, but cold hard facts. You know, Bigtime calls me a PBF hater, and Dominga calls me a PBF lover.

The guy who called Pacman overrated said I was a Pac lover, and then last night I was called a Pac Hater.:deal Gotta love ESB.I'm not familair w/your fight views, but strongly agree with the above. I've been on the net continuously since the mid 90s. Been involved w/many boards - sports, politics & econ, games, etc. Some are more moderated than others, some have a higher or lower intellect level. But they're similar in terms of particpants. All of them have posters where you can have a fun debate w/o throwing childish insults, then there's the trolls and wind up guys. Some clever trolls can be amusing, most are not. And then you have the just plain idiots or psychos that are a waste of time.

There seems to be some universal law of internet boards at work here. :think

I've been reading ESB for about 3.5 years, but only made it official in early July '07.

[bigtime9]

Nowadays, everyone is quick to judge, and even with proof in their face, they deny to the end. Not opinionated proof, but cold hard facts. You know, Bigtime calls me a PBF hater

I never called you a hater, you're just not that smart. pick a fight with someone you have an advantage over. floyd is undefeated right now, there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated. when he loses then you can try and debate his greatness, right now it's a fait accompli mon ami:deal

[buddynabuick]

I'm not familair w/your fight views, but strongly agree with the above. I've been on the net continuously since the mid 90s. Been involved w/many boards - sports, politics & econ, games, etc. Some are more moderated than others, some have a higher or lower intellect level. But they're similar in terms of particpants. All of them have posters where you can have a fun debate w/o throwing childish insults, then there's the trolls and wind up guys. Some clever trolls can be amusing, most are not. And then you have the just plain idiots or psychos that are a waste of time.

There seems to be some universal law of internet boards at work here. :think

I've been reading ESB for about 3.5 years, but only made it official in early July '07.



Good post. there are some civil (most) people on here yhat wiil treat you with respect. :good

[cuchulain]

floyd is undefeated right now, there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated. when he loses then you can try and debate his greatness, right now it's a fait accompli mon ami:deal

By that reasoning, you would have to rank Marciano was the greatest heavyweight ever (which he isn't).

Back to the drawing board?

[brisback]

GO GOLOTA!!!

:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

[bigtime9]

By that reasoning, you would have to rank Marciano was the greatest heavyweight ever (which he isn't).

Back to the drawing board?

are you comparing marciano's comp to floyds. I mean hatton is 43-0 does that mean he has accomplished as much as floyd. is hatton even close to winning 5 titles in 5 weightclasses.

so I guess it's back to the drawing board for you:deal the marciano analogy doesn't work with floyd surely you can do better.

[kg0208]

I never called you a hater, you're just not that smart. pick a fight with someone you have an advantage over. floyd is undefeated right now, there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated. when he loses then you can try and debate his greatness, right now it's a fait accompli mon ami:deal

Yes you have called me a PBF hater.

And I have already beaten you in every argument we have had. I need not further prove that. Being unbeaten doesn't make you better than everyone else....otherwise you couldn't differentiate between PBF, Hatton, Calzaghe etc.

[Lance_Uppercut]

The guy who called Pacman overrated said I was a Pac lover, and then last night I was called a Pac Hater.:deal Gotta love ESB.

Dominga even called me a Mayweather nuthugger. :lol:

[BigReg]

Dominga even called me a Mayweather nuthugger. :lol:

We all know you're a closet Mayweather fan. It's ok, you can admit it.

[eze]

I am scrub when it comes to talking about boxing and Ive been here forever!

[Lance_Uppercut]

We all know you're a closet Mayweather fan. It's ok, you can admit it.

I was a big fan of his earlier in his career, but I just got sick of the shit he said. I'll still watch him fight every time though (unless it's Mayweather - Spinks... :tired)

[nrgetic]

Like any community you have a range of inclinations, capabilities, motivations and personalities. Naturally there is a proportion of contributers that have a lot to say but not much logic behind it. Those that have well reasoned, impassive and unbiased logic are rare.

[kg0208]

Like any community you have a range of inclinations, capabilities, motivations and personalities. Naturally there is a proportion of contributers that have a lot to say but not much logic behind it. Those that have well reasoned, impassive and unbiased logic are rare.
:good Good show.

[bigtime9]

No, your point was only due to him being undefeated. You said we couldn;t dispute anything you said as long as he was undefeated. Bigtime loses again, God this is getting old.


floyd is more then just undefeated.but until he loses who is better:deal


And yeah, Marciano had at least as good comp as Floyd, better really.

that was funny:rofl


Floyd's accomplishments at multiple weights is the only thing that makes them close in terms of P4P, but then again Marciano was a HW, which is pretty much an open weight division.

you just realized the problem in comparing floyd to marciano, about two posts too late. don't worry I won't batter you over the head about it:beat

[Lance_Uppercut]

floyd is more then just undefeated.but until he loses who is better:deal




that was funny:rofl




you just realized the problem in comparing floyd to marciano, about two posts too late. don't worry I won't batter you over the head about it:beat

WHy don't you post both resumes and tell us WHY Floyd's is so much better?

[kg0208]

Don't bother guys. Muttley said something profound last night that is my new mantra for Bigtime9.

"Lets all laugh at the idiot"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[bigtime9]

Well, you can compare quite easily: Floyd has been fighting "bigger" men and so was Rocky. Rocky was, even by the existing standard, a small HW - like a cruiser against the heavies. And marciano is still better P4P than Floyd


based on what criteria..because marciano never beat another great fighter in their prime his entire career..so you must be talking out your ass making that statement:deal

[Lance_Uppercut]

based on what criteria..because marciano never beat another great fighter in their prime his entire career..so you must be talking out your ass making that statement:deal

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[bigtime9]

Don't bother guys. Muttley said something profound last night that is my new mantra for Bigtime9.

"Lets all laugh at the idiot"


oh how the mighty have fallen:lol: now your quoting muttley:rofl how's it feel getting knocked off that high horse you were on:deal

[kg0208]

based on what criteria..because marciano never beat another great fighter in their prime his entire career..so you must be talking out your ass making that statement:deal

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[kg0208]

Hey look, it called me Mighty!!

[bigtime9]

Hey look, it called me Mighty!!


mighty sorry:lol:

[nrgetic]

I bet on boxing. The way I look at it its like poker, there is an underlying probability of the range of possible outcomes. The fact that a given event occurs means nothing more than probability rules and it isn't smart to think we know anything more than have chosen the event that was coincidental to a probabilistic outcome of a single event.

[kg0208]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

And it thinks it's funny too:hey

[Dantes]

Dont know crap about whats going on in the actual fight itself. You can tell none know the actual fight aspect of boxing..They spend there lives on Box Rec expecting kudos and scooby snacks for knowing who beat who and this or that guy was a great fighter. But can NEVER actually SEE what is going on in a fight or why so and so didnt knock out so and so and the other guy did. Funny how I now realize this...they spend time arguing who is the best of all time and fantasy matchups without even knowing there so called favorites fighters ring tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Time for a reality check:deal

When you're done talking about yourself..we'll get back to talking boxing...poser.:good

[cuchulain]

are you comparing marciano's comp to floyds. I mean hatton is 43-0 does that mean he has accomplished as much as floyd. is hatton even close to winning 5 titles in 5 weightclasses.

so I guess it's back to the drawing board for you:deal the marciano analogy doesn't work with floyd surely you can do better.


No, Bigtime.

Go back and read your post. I'll save you the trouble:



floyd is undefeated right now, there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated. when he loses then you can try and debate his greatness, right now it's a fait accompli mon ami


You made a flat-out statement without qualifiers like quality of opposition.
The only logical inference you can take from your statement is that because Floyd is undefeated, no-one can successfully argue his greatness.

You further imply that were he to lose, then his greatness would be open for debate.

You make no mention of opponent calibre, until the flaw in your reasoning is pointed out. You even reinforce the FLAW in your argument by making the point that Hatton too, is undefeated and yet we CAN debate his greatness ( thus reinforcing the logical flaw in your earlier post ).

You've in advertantly dug yourself into a hole. The fact is, we CAN debate the greatness of Floyd EVEN THOUGH he is undefeated. We can debate the quality of his opposition, the fairness of the decisions, the margins of victory etc.

I believe Floyd is the best currently active boxer, but I would not consider his undefeated status as closing all possibility of debate.

[cuchulain]

Dominga even called me a Mayweather nuthugger. :lol:


He called ME the same thing.

He's been on here for about a week and he knows everything about everyone.

Just shows how clueless some folks are.

[bigtime9]

I'm basing it on the exact same criteria as you, moron. You keep bringing up Floyd's success over multiple weight divisions and his defeating bigger men.


sure you are..once again who did marcaino defeat at heavyweight besides an old joe louis worth mentioning. you're better off comparing marciano to valuev they are similar in fighting style.:rofl


I'm on the exact same criteria - Rocky fought bigger men than himself: height-wise and weight-wise.


sure and marciano fought heavy's like foreman, frazier, ali, liston and norton:deal


Your now bringing in the prime issue to cover your clearly exposed ass: well, what great has Floyd beaten in their prime?


diego corrales and jose luis castillo were both prime and elite in their weightclass. now that I've named 2 please name 1 for marciano:deal


If you can't answer that genuinely, then your point has no relevance. Because you need to have at least one example of your criteria to make to case.

once again you lose :-(

[bigtime9]

You made a flat-out statement without qualifiers like quality of opposition.
The only logical inference you can take from your statement is that because Floyd is undefeated, no-one can successfully argue his greatness.



once again for the simple people like yourself..who would be favored to beat floyd from 154-140:deal you can talk all day about qualifiers but the bottom line is pure dominance and that is what you are witnessing from 154-140 floyd is the ruler of those weightclasses:rofl



You further imply that were he to lose, then his greatness would be open for debate.


for people like you not for me.


You make no mention of opponent calibre, until the flaw in your reasoning is pointed out. You even reinforce the FLAW in your argument by making the point that Hatton too, is undefeated and yet we CAN debate his greatness ( thus reinforcing the logical flaw in your earlier post ).



please save the semantics for those of lesser intellect:deal bottom line is that floyd has defeated more ring champs then any active fighter:deal while remaining undefeated. are you questioning floyd's position as the best fighter of our generation if so you better come with more than word play:deal


You've in advertantly dug yourself into a hole. The fact is, we CAN debate the greatness of Floyd EVEN THOUGH he is undefeated. We can debate the quality of his opposition, the fairness of the decisions, the margins of victory etc.


debate away and get tore a new asshole:hey

I believe Floyd is the best currently active boxer, but I would not consider his undefeated status as closing all possibility of debate.

once again what are you debating bring it all out in the open:deal did floyd feast at the bottom of the ring rankings or did he feast at the top in winning his titles:roll:

[41fever]

lol

[Irish Steel]

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[nrgetic]

One thing that annoys me most are the arm chair experts who like most critics never had the talent to compete at an elite level but compensate by denigrating and ridiculing those that do. Its great to have passion, wit and humour and there are some really funny bastard on this forum that really add a lot but there are so many ill informed contributors that love dumping shit on fighters as though they have committed some moral indiscretion. Shit, I bet $10k on Taylor to KO Ouma, Taylor didn't do it but that life, he failedto perform as he should have but that doesn't reflect he is a bad person. Haters suck - tell me why he didn't do it on technical grounds! I am sure a lot of fighters that might have technical and skill limit are having a crack and doing there best so why talk as though they are bums!

[cuchulain]

You're still not getting it Bigtime. It appears you're not that bright.
Just to attempt to lay it all out for you one more time, let's look at the post where you made the logical error:

floyd is undefeated right now, there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated.

What you're saying there is that Floyd 's greatness cannot be debated BECAUSE HE IS UNDEFEATED. I (and others) have already shown you that one can be undefeated and still have their greatness questioned. You were even good enough yourself to provide an example (Hatton) which DISPROVED your own post.

Then you write:


once again for the simple people like yourself..who would be favored to beat floyd from 154-140:deal you can talk all day about qualifiers but the bottom line is pure dominance and that is what you are witnessing from 154-140 floyd is the ruler of those weightclasses:rofl

What the fuck has this to do with anything?

Are you that stupid?

We are not arguing about who can or can't beat Floyd at 140 or i54 or any other weight.

I am pointing out to you that, contrary to what you said in the first post, being undefeated does not prove greatness. That argument you have lost, plain and simple.

You fucked up in your statement as to why Floyd's greatness could not even be debated.. When that fuck-up was pointed out to you, you backtracked and introduced qualifiers (like the quality of opposition a fighter has faced) that were not there in your original post.


Then you say:


when he loses then you can try and debate his greatness, right now it's a fait accompli mon ami

What you're saying here is that when he loses, then we can have the debate. When that's pointed out to you, you write:

for people like you not for me.

It was YOU who wrote it, fuckwit. Not me.

It's not my problem if you can't understand your own post.


Then finally you spout the following piece of irrelevent drivel:

please save the semantics for those of lesser intellect:deal bottom line is that floyd has defeated more ring champs then any active fighter:deal while remaining undefeated. are you questioning floyd's position as the best fighter of our generation if so you better come with more than word play:deal

(Little smilies throughout your post don't strengthen your excuse for an argument. They just illustrate your level of development)

You don't have the intellect to understand the implications of your own post, much less the rebuttals to your gigantic gaps in logic.


And what the fuck are we to make of this gem:


debate away and get tore a new asshole:hey


And finally another indication that you don't understand what the argument is about:
once again what are you debating bring it all out in the open:deal did floyd feast at the bottom of the ring rankings or did he feast at the top in winning his titles:roll:


So, to summarize it all for your tiny brain to grasp:

I am not debating Floyd's greatness, nor his competition, nor Marciano's nor Hatton's nor who Floyd would beat at whatever weight.

I am pointing out the error of the stupid sentence in your first post:

....there is no argument you can win that I put forth about floyd's greatness as long as he remains undefeated.

If it's not clear to you by now, then your pitiful lack of logic renders you beyond remediation or explication and I'm in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

[Amsterdam]

sure you are..once again who did marcaino defeat at heavyweight besides an old joe louis worth mentioning. you're better off comparing marciano to valuev they are similar in fighting style.:rofl


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl



sure and marciano fought heavy's like foreman, frazier, ali, liston and norton:deal


He defeated guys on Norton's level, definitley.



diego corrales and jose luis castillo were both prime and elite in their weightclass. now that I've named 2 please name 1 for marciano:deal


Both are vastly overrated as well. They don't compare P4P to Jersey Joe, Charles or Moore, even if all were past their best.



once again you lose :-(


I can see why they bother, you're entertaining.

[psychopath]

POSTING ON THIS FORUM IS FOR AMUSEMENT..NOT SERIOUS AS POSTING ON ACTUAL ARTICLES WITH REAL TOPICS PERTAINING TO REAL FIGHTS AND NOT MYTH AND FOLKLORE..

Well there you go . . . you said it yourself. :yep

So what's your problem? Some of these posters are not even boxing fans. So . . . learn to live by it. :D

"If you can't take the heat . . . then get out of the kitchen." :hi:

[Thinman]

Dont know crap about whats going on in the actual fight itself. You can tell none know the actual fight aspect of boxing..They spend there lives on Box Rec expecting kudos and scooby snacks for knowing who beat who and this or that guy was a great fighter. But can NEVER actually SEE what is going on in a fight or why so and so didnt knock out so and so and the other guy did. Funny how I now realize this...they spend time arguing who is the best of all time and fantasy matchups without even knowing there so called favorites fighters ring tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Time for a reality check:deal

I like the way you think. Can you give me your opinion about this.

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