Evander is getting KO'd

[Supreme]

Honestly guys it sounds crap but i can see holyfield being ktfo in this title fight. Its a golden chance for Ibragimov to get some publicity!

[brisback]

nope. iggy is getting schooled!!!

[brooklyn1550]

It's possible that Holyfield gets stopped, but I think he knows this is his last chance and will leave it ALL in the ring...Holyfield by UD

[nrgetic]

Holyfield has had a dreadful workrate for many years. Ibragimov will take him into the late rounds and then KO him as Holyfield runs out of gas. This is unless Holyfield deliberately headbutts and get away with it resulting in a stoppage because he is one dirty fighter!

[unclepaulie]

Holyfield has had a dreadful workrate for many years. Ibragimov will take him into the late rounds and then KO him as Holyfield runs out of gas. This is unless Holyfield deliberately headbutts and get away with it resulting in a stoppage because he is one dirty fighter!
my thoughts exactly

[sues2nd]

No way Sultan stops Evander. That is a joke.

Evander is going to stop him. Holyfield KO 7. Sultan is a decently skilled fighter....THAT IS IT! He won his title vs Shannon "Because of athsma I can only throw 3 punches a round so I better pray I catch you hard with one or else Im gonna get my ears boxed off" Briggs.

And YES, I am campaining that Briggs OFFICIALLY change his name to this (WHAT, it wouldnt be funny to hear Buffer scream that one?).

[KayEpps]

I see Holyfield losing - but I don't see him being stopped.

[buddynabuick]

Holy is going DOWN

[brisback]

Holy is going DOWN

In history.

[nrgetic]

In history.

Brisback as in Brisbane QLD?

[nrgetic]

Ibragimov is presently paying $1.25 so all those tipping Holyfield unless you are putting money on Holyfield I can't presume you are very confident in your convictions

[box03]

I doubt Holyfield will get knocked out, Iggy dont got the pop to drop Holyfield. I think Holyfield got a better chance of knocking Iggy out.

[andyZOR]

I actually see Holy winning.

I do as well.

[nrgetic]

I will watch a few of Ibragimovs fight today but I would advise other to watch a few of Holyfields fights as he is well and truly shot. I don't believe Ibragimov is half the fighter Holyfield was at his prime but Holyfield has slipped drastically

[Zakman]

It's possible that Holyfield gets stopped, but I think he knows this is his last chance and will leave it ALL in the ring...Holyfield by UD

Agree completely. And I don't think Ibragimov is all that great either. Anybody who fights on even terms, and hits the deck, against Ray Austin can be beaten by Evander Holyfield, even today's Holyfield.:yep

[SteveO]

I hope that Ibragimov wins since I wrote a sample article for my college newspaper and predicted Iggy as the winner. If I'm right, I might get to write more. If I'm wrong, I still might be able to. Oh well.

[andyZOR]

Agree completely. And I don't think Ibragimov is all that great either. Anybody who fights on even terms, and hits the deck, against Ray Austin can be beaten by Evander Holyfield, even today's Holyfield.:yep

Verry True. Witch is one of the reasons why I picked Holy UD. As shown in my sig for the past month or so. :D

[41fever]

I see him getting stopped too, but I also see him unleashing the lion of faith in him, he surprises me too much

[skier47]

Sultan has very fast hands for a heavyweight and underated power.
Everybody has a lousy performance now and then and Iggy's fight
with Austin was just that. He's got a new trainer and seems to be
improving. He's just way too fast and active now for Holyfield to
contend with. Holyfield has been beating up on over the hill never-weres
like Savarese lately. Sultan is a huge jump up in class and Evander is
too old and slow to contend with the young lion. I fear Holyfield will
take a sustained and severe beating in this fight.

[NBT]

Guys, get real. If McToney could stop Oldyfield 4 years ago, Ibragimov can easily do it too, no doubt about it.

[nrgetic]

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That said Ibragimov has some major defensive flaws so Holyfield better go for broke and be razor sharp to capitalise otherwise he is as close to a sure thing to lose as one can get

[ApatheticLeader]

Holyfield won't win. He doesn't have (and never has had) one punch power. His stamina these days is very poor. He has very questionable workrate and he probably won't outbox Ibragimov. I don't see a Holy victory. I don't even want to see a Holy victory.

[Blacc Jesus]

Holyfield has had a dreadful workrate for many years. Ibragimov will take him into the late rounds and then KO him as Holyfield runs out of gas. This is unless Holyfield deliberately headbutts and get away with it resulting in a stoppage because he is one dirty fighter!
I second that.

[nrgetic]

Anyone seen Holyfield vs Maddalone and Holyfield vs Savarese - what hope do these fights offer Holyfield against Ibragimov

I watched Holyfield vs Oquendo and that reinforced Holyfield does not have the work rate - has he radically improved since then?

[nrgetic]

If Holyfield wins his fight against Ibragimov that is about the worst thing that can happen unless he retires immediately because if he fights the wrong fighter he could end up seriously damaged. The onlysaving grace is that his camp have been carrying him and they would toss in the towel the first sign of real risk

[Bummy Davis]

Sultan has to do his homework and watch the Toney fight, the bodywork did Evander in, also the 3rd Bowe fight, body work slowed Evander down, Evander is amazing that he is still conditioned and fighting well but if Sultan does not win convincingly,he will never be marketable, he needs a stoppage over Evander to look good

[heerko koois]

It is a 50-50 type of a fight....both can win this one ....I like Holyfield a lot but i will not bet on anyone this time ...a draw is also very possible..

[red cobra]

In anyone's opinion, is Chagaev better than Iggy?

[heerko koois]

In anyone's opinion, is Chagaev better than Iggy?

Yes....Chagaev and Klitscko are the best heavies at this moment.....

[Butch Coolidge]

I see Ibragimov having more advantages mainly speed and workrate. Also, I think the Russian's style will give Holy an extreme hard time. Evander has had some of his toughest fights vs southpaws. Byrd and Moorer, two lefties ,beat him and Ibragimov likes to throw the left to the breadbasket.

[andyZOR]

Yes....Chagaev and Klitscko are the best heavies at this moment.....
Agreeed. Chagaev would beat both Holy and Iggy imo.

[In_FlaMeS]

Holyfield will loose... damn the Russian is quicker, younger and he's a southpaw.

[lion]

iggy is nothing special with a shaky chin, holy might knock him out

[cuchulain]

iggy is nothing special with a shaky chin, holy might knock him out


???

[kirk]

This fight, IMO, will be lost for Holy in the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th rounds.... hate to say it but i cant see him winning. Though i havnt seen his last two fights...

[SteveO]

Guys, get real. If McToney could stop Oldyfield 4 years ago, Ibragimov can easily do it too, no doubt about it.
Toney was not a huge tub back then. Not the Toney of today. He was good at 217. Looked good enough, anyway.

[RichDam]

Holyfield on points after dropping Sultan along the way.

[pipe wrenched]

Holyfield KO 9.

[nrgetic]

How did Holyfield look vs Savarese in terms of hand speed (He didn't have enough time to prove any re workrate) and did Holyfield keep a work rate up against Maddalone?

[RichDam]

How did Holyfield look vs Savarese in terms of hand speed (He didn't have enough time to prove any re workrate) and did Holyfield keep a work rate up against Maddalone?

Are you getting these two fights confused. The Savarese fight went the distance, while the Maddalone was over quickly. His punch output is much improved in recent fights. And Oquendo didn't see the punch that decked him.

[SugarShane_24]

I feel the opposite. Sultan was dropped by Ray Austin who really is not an upper-tier heavyweight. And of all the champions he got his title from Briggs who can boast nothing aside from his punch, weight and dreadlocks.

I'd say Holy suddenly holds back time enough to score a stoppage in 10.

[Belanio]

Ibragimov is going to win this fight and then everyone will go "Danny Williams" on him and complain about Holyfield's age and how shot he is et cetera.

Of course they will be right, but where will all these "Evander will win"-guys from this thread be then?

[SugarShane_24]

Well, I would still be here. I gave a prediction and I have basis on why I reached that conclusion.


And the truth is, after the fight is signed, Iggy is fighting an old man who is supposed to be a fodder, to pad his record with name guys till a big payday comes along.

[red cobra]

I honestly don't believe that Evander is going to be ko'd, but I think he will he most likely out hustled and beaten on a decision. It isnt Iggy's style to score ko's, and he's very good at winning marginal decisions. Either way though, win or lose, Evander wont go away until he is rendered brain dead by a lethal puncher like Wlad. It's unfortunate and a tragedy in the making, but Evander ain't gonna walk away until he's carried away. He dosen't know when to quit.

[SteveO]

I honestly don't believe that Evander is going to be ko'd, but I think he will he most likely out hustled and beaten on a decision. It isnt Iggy's style to score ko's, and he's very good at winning marginal decisions. Either way though, win or lose, Evander wont go away until he is rendered brain dead by a lethal puncher like Wlad. It's unfortunate and a tragedy in the making, but Evander ain't gonna walk away until he's carried away. He dosen't know when to quit.


Evander will be 59, fight some Colorado club fighter with a record of something like 5-12-2, and get taken apart.

[SteveO]

Maybe Ron Cranmer will come out of retirement to fight him.

[ryanty22]

i think holyfield will win by a close decision. as far as brain damage it has never been proven and it is his right to fight if someone doesnt like it they should not watch and mind their own business. if you dont agree dont watch but let the man live his dream as long as he passes the medical tests.

[Supreme]

Guys for starters to the first response, no i have not just joined here to post this and wind people up its my honest opinion and it seems that alot agree with me.

When Vander fought Savarese it was a bloody nightmare, he looked about as good as Savarese in terms of boxing ability. Vander looked in good shape in the fight but lets face it, that doesnt mean his reflexes havent long left him.

What im trying to get at is that Holyfield looked only marginally better than Savarese in that fight and had sweet FA to offer after round 7.

Would you tip Savarese to beat Iggy?? no you would say he would be getting KTFO or being on the end of an absolute hiding. Thats whats going to happen to Evander, BUT i can see him being pounded anytime after round 5 against somebody in the current top crop who wont be as poor as a Savarese and will get to work on him alot earlier draining him before you even see round 8,9 or 10.

Holyfield is getting stopped or knocked out.

[El Bombasto]

Holyfield has had a dreadful workrate for many years. Ibragimov will take him into the late rounds and then KO him as Holyfield runs out of gas. This is unless Holyfield deliberately headbutts and get away with it resulting in a stoppage because he is one dirty fighter!

unless?....let's be real about this, if evan fields is involved, headbutts and steroids are a certainty

[nrgetic]

Ibragimov is very open when he throws his left hand as he throws it from low to high – any good counter puncher will nail him, as soon as Ibragimov lands left his opponent should fire straight back. When Ibragimov gets tired his guard goes to shit. This means he better be training his arse off for this fight and getting the right technical advice. If he covers these bases then he wins, if not then Holyfield has some chance though not great

[maciek4]

I cant believe people are picking Holyfield, based on what? His victory over Jeremy Bates ? or maybe Fres Oquendo? or Vinny Madalone or Lou Savarese. This is an easy fight to predict. The result will be the same as Byrd Holyfield. Sultan will school him, Evander will win 2 or 3 rounds max.

[2ironmt]

Are you getting these two fights confused. The Savarese fight went the distance, while the Maddalone was over quickly. His punch output is much improved in recent fights. And Oquendo didn't see the punch that decked him. maddalone's nothing special (but he's tough and strong), but holy looked really sharp and had plenty of pop in that fight. evan fields must've placed the right orders over the past couple of years.

[2ironmt]

I cant believe people are picking Holyfield, based on what? His victory over Jeremy Bates ? or maybe Fres Oquendo? or Vinny Madalone or Lou Savarese. This is an easy fight to predict. The result will be the same as Byrd Holyfield. Sultan will school him, Evander will win 2 or 3 rounds max. i'd like to see sultan fight fres, fres is no joke and that would be a fight. what performance are you rating sultan on?? briggs or austin???

[maciek4]

i'd like to see sultan fight fres, fres is no joke and that would be a fight. what performance are you rating sultan on?? briggs or austin???

Briggs and Austin are much much better than Madalone or Savarese. Austin is on the level of Larry Donald, they fought to a draw yet Larry Donald completly schooled Holyfield and it wasnt just bad stylistic matchup for Holyfield, Donald had faster hands and so does Ibragimov. Fres Oquendo nowadays is a joke.

[RichDam]

Briggs and Austin are much much better than Madalone or Savarese. Austin is on the level of Larry Donald, they fought to a draw yet Larry Donald completly schooled Holyfield and it wasnt just bad stylistic matchup for Holyfield, Donald had faster hands and so does Ibragimov. Fres Oquendo nowadays is a joke.

Donald caused Holyfield problems because he has slick skills and movement. Sultan has quite fast hands, but he will stand in front of Holyfield and I can't help but think that he will be slowly ground down. If he drops his hands then Holyfield's hook will cause him plenty of problems.

[rodney]

Not by this guy.

[hacim419]

Oquendo and Savarese are not much worse than Austin and Briggs IMO.




I cant believe people are picking Holyfield, based on what? His victory over Jeremy Bates ? or maybe Fres Oquendo? or Vinny Madalone or Lou Savarese. This is an easy fight to predict. The result will be the same as Byrd Holyfield. Sultan will school him, Evander will win 2 or 3 rounds max.

[hacim419]

I know it's crazy but I might even go as far to say that the Savarese that Holyfield fought would have probably beaten the Briggs that Iggy fought.

[2ironmt]

Briggs and Austin are much much better than Madalone or Savarese. Austin is on the level of Larry Donald, they fought to a draw yet Larry Donald completly schooled Holyfield and it wasnt just bad stylistic matchup for Holyfield, Donald had faster hands and so does Ibragimov. Fres Oquendo nowadays is a joke. whatever fres is a 'joke' in your opnion presumably b/c he lost to holyfield. fres was what 33 when he fought evander and looked about the same as when he was getting robbed in hw title fights and beating solid comp.

[TheGreat]

Honestly guys it sounds crap but i can see holyfield being ktfo in this title fight. Its a golden chance for Ibragimov to get some publicity!

After watching him against Toney, Byrd, and Donald I think it is very likely.

[nrgetic]

I have been on the Ibragimov by KO bandwagon but if Holyfield comes in in shape and throws leather with a good work rate then he will exploit Ibragimov defensive weaknesses and weak chin, I think it is a much more interesting fight than I first gave it credit