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snakerattle79
07-25-2009, 05:19 AM
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Sources close to the fighter have informed FiveKnuckles.com that Strikeforce were in talks with Affliction, M-1 Global and Golden Boy promotions on a long term deal with Emelianenko with in the last couple of days. The promotion reportedly offered the former Pride champion between 500,000 and 700,000 per fight, a non-exclusive contract, guaranteed exposure on CBS shows and a cut of any PPV event he was a part of. Emelianenko would certainly be able to get maximum mainstream U.S. exposure via CBS and Showtime which could lead possible big money endorsement deals and he'd also get to enjoy the freedoms associated with Strikeforce's non-exclusive contracts. This scenario is considered a strong possibility if Emelianenko is indeed a free agent according to inside sources.

Rumors are flying right now, so it's difficult to know exactly how all of this will play out. Sources have stated that Emelianenko's management contract allows him to brake his management contract if he's not put into a certain number of fights each year, and that may also be a possibility how unlikely it seems given his strong relationship to Vadim Finklestein and the rest of his management team at M-1.

Emelianenko is currently en route to California, according to M-1 officials, and will be making a statement regarding the situation by soon after his arrival, which should shed more light on the situation.

We'll have that for you as soon as it becomes available.

liger05
07-25-2009, 07:08 AM
I think Strikeforce is where Fedor will end up.

scurlaruntings
07-25-2009, 07:21 AM
Anywhere but the UFC. Im getting sick to death of them.

Dave_j1985
07-25-2009, 07:39 AM
I know I'll get flamed for this but here it goes Fedor is a fucking pussy if he signs for strike force. Seriously, who can they offer him in terms of big fights? I know what everyone will say regarding 'slave contracts' and Dana White being the devil and blah blah blah but surely he knows everyone wants him to fight Lesnar, and it's not like he won't make millions of dollars for this fight! If anything he's taking a paycut to fight lesser known opponents in an organisation that isn't as mainstream as the UFC!

I feel alot better now after venting lol

liger05
07-25-2009, 07:51 AM
I know I'll get flamed for this but here it goes Fedor is a fucking pussy if he signs for strike force. Seriously, who can they offer him in terms of big fights? I know what everyone will say regarding 'slave contracts' and Dana White being the devil and blah blah blah but surely he knows everyone wants him to fight Lesnar, and it's not like he won't make millions of dollars for this fight! If anything he's taking a paycut to fight lesser known opponents in an organisation that isn't as mainstream as the UFC!

I feel alot better now after venting lol

Fedor doesnt need to the UFC. Yes it would be great if he did but its his right to refuse what the UFC are offering. If he could go in and fight lesnar then he would but you know its not as simple as that. UFC want him locked in a exclusive contract and other things (I dont blame them) but Fedor doesnt wasnt that. To suggest Fedor is ducking fighters is crazy.

rekcutnevets
07-25-2009, 08:41 AM
I wish someone could put the Fedor fight with Barnett together for the Japanese promotion that has an interest in Barnett fighting on Aug 9. Barnett and Couture are the only names missing from Fedor's resume, that have excelled during the same era.

scurlaruntings
07-25-2009, 08:47 AM
I know I'll get flamed for this but here it goes Fedor is a fucking pussy if he signs for strike force. Seriously, who can they offer him in terms of big fights? I know what everyone will say regarding 'slave contracts' and Dana White being the devil and blah blah blah but surely he knows everyone wants him to fight Lesnar, and it's not like he won't make millions of dollars for this fight! If anything he's taking a paycut to fight lesser known opponents in an organisation that isn't as mainstream as the UFC!

I feel alot better now after venting lolHey new fan welcome to MMA :smooch

Dave_j1985
07-25-2009, 09:05 AM
Well it's good enough for GSP, BJ, Lyoto and even Tito has come to terms with the UFC's arrangements! Yes he may be contracted under their terms for a while but he will make alot of money and shut people (like me lol) up. And strikeforce could never conjure the exposure the UFC could, in the US maybe but the UFC is shown all around the world. And surely the more exposure he gets the better the 3rd party endorsement deals will be funding his back pocket well into retirement.

I realize I'm coming off as a UFC nuthugger but beside Barnett what other established heavyweights are out there for Fedor to fight? Fedor would have a ball with Lesnar, Couture, Carwin and why not have him beat on Kongo, that would be good for a laugh!

And is it that unbelievable that he may actually be ducking Lesnar? I can't say for sure he is but nobody besides Fedor can say for sure he isn't. Nobody cares to see him fight Couture after Lesnar beat him, Fedor know's he'd have to fight Brock.

liger05
07-25-2009, 11:06 AM
I wish someone could put the Fedor fight with Barnett together for the Japanese promotion that has an interest in Barnett fighting on Aug 9. Barnett and Couture are the only names missing from Fedor's resume, that have excelled during the same era.

Even if Inoki wanted that fight to happen on Aug 9th there is no way he could afford it.

TheChamp1000
07-25-2009, 11:31 AM
Well it's good enough for GSP, BJ, Lyoto and even Tito has come to terms with the UFC's arrangements! Yes he may be contracted under their terms for a while but he will make alot of money and shut people (like me lol) up. And strikeforce could never conjure the exposure the UFC could, in the US maybe but the UFC is shown all around the world. And surely the more exposure he gets the better the 3rd party endorsement deals will be funding his back pocket well into retirement.

I realize I'm coming off as a UFC nuthugger but beside Barnett what other established heavyweights are out there for Fedor to fight? Fedor would have a ball with Lesnar, Couture, Carwin and why not have him beat on Kongo, that would be good for a laugh!

And is it that unbelievable that he may actually be ducking Lesnar? I can't say for sure he is but nobody besides Fedor can say for sure he isn't. Nobody cares to see him fight Couture after Lesnar beat him, Fedor know's he'd have to fight Brock.

So to make you happy he should sign away his next few fights and suck dana's cock to prove you right that he is not ducking brock lesnar :rofl:rofl

GSP BJ etc do not have the pulling power fedor has so they can't really command the money fedor does can you see them carrying an afflicition event on their own?

codeman99998
07-25-2009, 11:58 AM
Anywhere but the UFC. Im getting sick to death of them.

Yeah. God forbid MMA fans actually get to see the best fights. Much better to just actively hate the UFC.

I want pride back:|

JonesHagler
07-25-2009, 12:03 PM
fedor is stupid, if you want to prove your the best join UFC

liger05
07-25-2009, 01:04 PM
fedor is stupid, if you want to prove your the best join UFC

And exactly who in the UFC does he need to prove his the best?

Lesnar needs to beat Fedor to be #1. Not the other way round.

Mirko - already beat
Noguiera - already beat.
Mir - not on Fedor's level
Randy - Fedor would kill him

People have been saying Fedor needs to join the UFC for a long time. When Syliva and Alovski were in the UFC Plenty people were saying then that Fedor needs to fight the likes of them. He dealt with them easily.

UFC is the #1 MMA organisation in the world but it's a myth that Fedor needs to go there to prove his #1.

snakerattle79
07-25-2009, 01:30 PM
I know I'll get flamed for this but here it goes Fedor is a fucking pussy if he signs for strike force. Seriously, who can they offer him in terms of big fights? I know what everyone will say regarding 'slave contracts' and Dana White being the devil and blah blah blah but surely he knows everyone wants him to fight Lesnar, and it's not like he won't make millions of dollars for this fight! If anything he's taking a paycut to fight lesser known opponents in an organisation that isn't as mainstream as the UFC!

I feel alot better now after venting lol


Overeem,Rogers, NON EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT > Brock,Carwin ,EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT

am0kgonzo
07-25-2009, 01:32 PM
Well it's good enough for GSP, BJ, Lyoto and even Tito has come to terms with the UFC's arrangements! Yes he may be contracted under their terms for a while but he will make alot of money and shut people (like me lol) up. And strikeforce could never conjure the exposure the UFC could, in the US maybe but the UFC is shown all around the world. And surely the more exposure he gets the better the 3rd party endorsement deals will be funding his back pocket well into retirement.

I realize I'm coming off as a UFC nuthugger but beside Barnett what other established heavyweights are out there for Fedor to fight? Fedor would have a ball with Lesnar, Couture, Carwin and why not have him beat on Kongo, that would be good for a laugh!

And is it that unbelievable that he may actually be ducking Lesnar? I can't say for sure he is but nobody besides Fedor can say for sure he isn't. Nobody cares to see him fight Couture after Lesnar beat him, Fedor know's he'd have to fight Brock.

Blah, people were making the same claims about Arlovski and Sylvia. The problem doesn't lie with Fedor ducking anybody, he just doesn't like the contract the UFC was/is offering him. If Lesnar was fighting outside the UFC the fight would be made in an instant.

snakerattle79
07-25-2009, 01:34 PM
fedor is stupid, if you want to prove your the best join UFC


seems like your Stupid, Brock has no Credibilty than Overeem towards Hardcore Fans and we all know Fedor doesnt want exclusivity..he'd rather fight Barnett,Bigfoot,Segei,Blagoi,Ishii,King Mo,Monson, in Japan than Fight Overrated HWs in the UFC

JonesHagler
07-25-2009, 03:00 PM
stop defending him ufc has the best fighters right now

am0kgonzo
07-25-2009, 03:05 PM
stop defending him ufc has the best fighters right now

Nah.

maximumsg
07-25-2009, 04:33 PM
Fedor is a fool if he goes anywhere but the ufc. Couture made over 3 million fight lesnar bc of the ppv totals. Fedor lesnar would make them both way more than they ever made bc it would be the highest groce mma ppv fight ever.

Rico Spadafora
07-25-2009, 04:58 PM
stop defending him ufc has the best fighters right now


UFC's Heavyweight Division is AWFUL and that is putting it nicely.

JonesHagler
07-25-2009, 06:24 PM
fuck fedor if he doesn't go to UFC

SouthpawSlayer
07-25-2009, 06:42 PM
fedor does not need the ufc, fuck dana

Tuffnutz
07-25-2009, 07:00 PM
All I want to see is Fedor fight Brock and for him to take on the likes of Machida at heavyweight.

Fedor needs to be in the UFC.

Barnett was the last interesting heavyweight and he fecked up.

Fedor anywhere other than the UFC is garbage!

Dave_j1985
07-25-2009, 07:36 PM
So to make you happy he should sign away his next few fights and suck dana's cock to prove you right that he is not ducking brock lesnar :rofl:rofl

GSP BJ etc do not have the pulling power fedor has so they can't really command the money fedor does can you see them carrying an afflicition event on their own?

I think Fedor and BJ have much more pulling power in the US and Canada then Fedor surely. Yeah and look what happened to Affliction! Besides the fact they were making only 100, 000 buys in their last PPV compared to 1.5 million on the UFC's last PPV which happened to play host to Lesnar's fight. I believe Lesnar will be the one people will want to pay to see, even if it is to watch him get beaten

codeman99998
07-25-2009, 07:37 PM
UFC's Heavyweight Division is AWFUL and that is putting it nicely.

Lesnar is absolutely a beast. Nog might not be completely done. Mir is a legitimate threat, and could very well bounce back. Carwin shows lots of promise as well.

It isn't awful.

scurlaruntings
07-25-2009, 08:47 PM
Lesnar is absolutely a beast. Nog might not be completely done. Mir is a legitimate threat, and could very well bounce back. Carwin shows lots of promise as well.

It isn't awful.You havent been watching MMA long enough to give an informed opinion. The division is garbage. Historically its been awful.

TheChamp1000
07-25-2009, 08:54 PM
I think Fedor and BJ have much more pulling power in the US and Canada then Fedor surely. Yeah and look what happened to Affliction! Besides the fact they were making only 100, 000 buys in their last PPV compared to 1.5 million on the UFC's last PPV which happened to play host to Lesnar's fight. I believe Lesnar will be the one people will want to pay to see, even if it is to watch him get beaten

Fedor is the only one that would give a non ufc event like that a chance.
He does not need the ufc to make money and fight.
He is already on the decline and in 5 years when they finally agree a contract fedor will be on a steep decline, lose a fight in UFC and dana white will laugh at the fact that fedor got beat.

He wont go out of his way to get brock fedor as fedor is still to dangerous and brock can beat the shit out of trash Heavies and play the heel some more and ufc will still make money.

demzor
07-25-2009, 09:09 PM
You havent been watching MMA long enough to give an informed opinion. The division is garbage. Historically its been awful.

The heavyweight division as a whole sucks..

I mean who is there outside of fedor?
Overeem is questionable at best. Great standup.. but gasses fast. I'll wait till he beats someone legit.
Barnett is just not as good as people make him out to be. #2 heavyweight? get outta here. Whos he beat lately?

Tuffnutz
07-25-2009, 10:05 PM
Fedor vs Brock is the biggest fight in the heavyweight division and that fight will only happen in the UFC.

Plus the other real tests for Fedor are in the UFC 205 lb division.

I'd love to see the likes of Machida, Silva and even Henderson take on Fedor at heavyweight.

Could you imagine Fedor vs Brock, Machida and Silva?

codeman99998
07-26-2009, 12:09 AM
You havent been watching MMA long enough to give an informed opinion. The division is garbage. Historically its been awful.

Historically? Historically means diddly shit.

It's not like I can travel back in time to Pride in 2004 and fill the UFC roster with those guys.

Besides Fedor who would make the UFC roster better who isn't on it? Also, which promotion has a better HW division right now?

The UFC is garbage anyways. Every division they have sucks really, not just heavyweight. I'm.... I'm going to go cry a bit more and dream I have pride back.

scurlaruntings
07-26-2009, 06:37 AM
Historically? Historically means diddly shit.

It's not like I can travel back in time to Pride in 2004 and fill the UFC roster with those guys.

Besides Fedor who would make the UFC roster better who isn't on it? Also, which promotion has a better HW division right now?

The UFC is garbage anyways. Every division they have sucks really, not just heavyweight. I'm.... I'm going to go cry a bit more and dream I have pride back.You havent got much of a clue have you you stupid child? :roll:

scurlaruntings
07-26-2009, 06:41 AM
The heavyweight division as a whole sucks..

I mean who is there outside of fedor?
Overeem is questionable at best. Great standup.. but gasses fast. I'll wait till he beats someone legit.
Barnett is just not as good as people make him out to be. #2 heavyweight? get outta here. Whos he beat lately?Overeem has always gassed quickly. Now he's on a shed load of hormones he's even worse. The heavies have simply got old and not been replaced. And Barnett is ranked as the 2nd best heavy off the back of his days in PRIDE. That being said since PRIDE was bought the talent that was coming through has been fragmented badly with guys either not fighting or fighting for non-descript organisations that arent easily accesible.

Rico Spadafora
07-26-2009, 11:11 AM
The main thing here is that StrikeForce is willing to sign him to a non-exclusive contract and give him exposure on CBS. Two things Dana White and the UFC either can't (CBS) or won't (non-exclusiveness) offer.

Why would you want to be tied to one of the UFC's slave contracts where you have an idiot like Dana White telling you:

who can and can't sponsor you
what movies and other appearances you can do
won't let you compete in other MMA disciplines (Sambo)

Basically fighter that are tied to the UFC can't wipe their own ass without getting the OK from Dana White and he does not treat all fighters equally either.

demzor
07-26-2009, 11:29 AM
Rampage used to crack jokes about the UFC pay.
U Fight Cheap

He aint sayin shit anymore.


You're retarded to think Fedor wouldn't earn more in the UFC. The only reason this isnt gonna go through is because Fedor's manager is a rat. The guy gets a million dollar "consulting fee" per event. Copromotion my ass.. they slap their logo's on and take home a bunch of money with no risk. What a partner to have.

Vanboxingfan
07-26-2009, 12:06 PM
And exactly who in the UFC does he need to prove his the best?

Lesnar needs to beat Fedor to be #1. Not the other way round.

Mirko - already beat
Noguiera - already beat.
Mir - not on Fedor's level
Randy - Fedor would kill him

People have been saying Fedor needs to join the UFC for a long time. When Syliva and Alovski were in the UFC Plenty people were saying then that Fedor needs to fight the likes of them. He dealt with them easily.

UFC is the #1 MMA organisation in the world but it's a myth that Fedor needs to go there to prove his #1.


No but he might have to go there if he wants to pick up a decent paycheck or two.

rydersonthestorm
07-26-2009, 12:07 PM
Rampage used to crack jokes about the UFC pay.
U Fight Cheap

He aint sayin shit anymore.


You're retarded to think Fedor wouldn't earn more in the UFC. The only reason this isnt gonna go through is because Fedor's manager is a rat. The guy gets a million dollar "consulting fee" per event. Copromotion my ass.. they slap their logo's on and take home a bunch of money with no risk. What a partner to have.
Not true at all if fedor has an non exclusive contract he can make more, sure the ufc might make him alot of money but with a non exclusive contract he can have big one off fights in japan, russia, america that will make him alot of money.

demzor
07-26-2009, 12:09 PM
Not true at all if fedor has an non exclusive contract he can make more, sure the ufc might make him alot of money but with a non exclusive contract he can have big one off fights in japan, russia, america that will make him alot of money.

Nobody can afford to pay fedor what a ppvshare in the ufc would pay him.

Russia? Who the hell is paying money in russia? Jap orgs are almost dead.

Rico Spadafora
07-26-2009, 01:35 PM
Rampage used to crack jokes about the UFC pay.
U Fight Cheap

He aint sayin shit anymore.


You're retarded to think Fedor wouldn't earn more in the UFC. The only reason this isnt gonna go through is because Fedor's manager is a rat. The guy gets a million dollar "consulting fee" per event. Copromotion my ass.. they slap their logo's on and take home a bunch of money with no risk. What a partner to have.


Fedor will make at StrikeForce just as much as he would with the UFC and he would not be tied to a slave contract. If you fight with the UFC they basically own your name and image and you are not free to do with it what you want. Look at this silly video game situation that came out a few weeks ago with White threatening his fighters if they signed on. It is pathetic.

liger05
07-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Nobody can afford to pay fedor what a ppvshare in the ufc would pay him.

Russia? Who the hell is paying money in russia? Jap orgs are almost dead.

I wouldnt go as far as saying almost dead. MMA just aint as hot as it was in Japan. If Satoshi Ishii starts well and is built up well then he could be the Japanese star which gets MMA in Japan going in the right direction again.

rydersonthestorm
07-26-2009, 08:39 PM
Nobody can afford to pay fedor what a ppvshare in the ufc would pay him.

Russia? Who the hell is paying money in russia? Jap orgs are almost dead.
They obviously can.

AJAX
07-26-2009, 09:03 PM
They obviously can.

Finkel contract demands are way worse then the UFC's he demands co-promotion...what the fuck is that ? Why would the UFC co-promote with some shitty M1 global company that nobody gives a fuck about.

Fedor will be difficult to sign by anybody...with his demands it's very difficult to make money.