Biggest duds who looked so promising

[SteveO]

Pick a weight class and run with it. Some of the heavies are easy:
Gerry Cooney
Leon Spinks
Buster Douglas

[semichin]

recently= John Duddy / Jason litzau:patsch

[lillarry]

David Reid

[box03]

David Reid I was debating throwing his name up there, wasnt he 1996 medalist for olympic boxing team. I know he had problem with cuts, not sure why he retired so early.

[SteveO]

How about Audley Harrison? Lots of people were calling him Fraudley on this board.

[brooklyn1550]

Jeff Lacy

[ozziebattler]

I was debating throwing his name up there, wasnt he 1996 medalist for olympic boxing team. I know he had problem with cuts, not sure why he retired so early.

Olympic gold medallist who won a world title before his he had 20 pro fights.

Totally dominated by tito trinidad and never recovered.Retired like 2 or so bouts after..

Not sure how hes doing these days..He had decent skill but unfortunetly couldnt have the success he did in the amateurs.

Still a olympic gold medal and a pro world title aint a bad level of success.

[41fever]

David ReidDitto.

[cuchulain]

recently= John Duddy / Jason litzau:patsch

Has Duddy lost a fight yet?

[doom bull]

Michael Grant is my favorite answer to threads like this.

[Carlos Primera]

Has Duddy lost a fight yet?
:huh i was wondering the same thing. has he lostor got ktfo?

[KO Boxing]

Duddy "lost" to old man Campas... He's a dud.

[nrgetic]

Jeff Lacy

I don't think Lacy is finished (subject to he recovering from his rotator cuff injury which is a big ask in itself). He desperately needs the right trainer to take his ego out of the equation and work on his skills. I am hopeful he can make a comeback. He is probably not an elite fighter at the peak of the division but he is a lot better than most people think that have jumped on the anti Lacy bandwagon

[doom bull]

I was just about to mention him. Michael Grant was supposed to be the next Great Champion. I remember reading an article on him in Ring Magazine back in 1999 I think. They talked about how he was a deadlock to be an elite contender and a probable champion. And then he went to shit

I remember seeing him in like 2003 or something on his "comeback". Teddy Atlas was training him and he got knocked out by a wide-ass left hook from some bum.

[unclepaulie]

Naseem Hamed

[andyZOR]

How about Andrew Golota..

Yea

[the_churn]

Dominick Guinn. All iron chin and questionable heart.

[natep]

Meldrick Taylor

what a tragedy.

[ripcity]

What about Mark Brelend? He was susposed to be the next great all time pound for pounder. He won a cupple of tittles but never became what a lot of people tthought he would be.

[mochabuzz]

Milton 'Ice Man' McCrory....
Although i do have to give Milton some credit for beating Luis 'Fake-an-injury' Santana in 1985. Being a native San Diegan... i really hated what Luis Santana did to Terry Norris 2x!

[cuchulain]

Duddy "lost" to old man Campas... He's a dud.

and

Duddy is going to get his ass beat soon as he steps up in class. I watched a 90 year old Campas take him to the limit and walk through his best shots and give him a terribly hard fight. I thought Campas won the fight also. So it is only a matter of time before Duddy gets the shit beat out of him, again

He decisively defeated ( 8 rounds to 4) a 35 year old Campas. ( younger than Shane, Winky, Bernard, Tszyu, Joppy,Calzaghe, etc. when they were very competitive)



He's undefeated with a 76 % KO rate and his resume is still unfolding.

[cuchulain]

Naseem Hamed

Not a dud either: A former title holder with 36-1 (31 KOs). Only loss: close fight with a prime great MAB.

[cuchulain]

I had Campas winning the fight 7 rounds to 5. He rocked Duddy multiple times. Duddy showed great heart, but personally I thought Campas won. It was close though, but the Judges scorecards were ridiculous. They had Duddy wining like 10-2 and 9-3. The fight was much more competitve

How you had it is irrelevent. The judges had it 7-5, 8-4, and 9-3. I had it 8-4.

Fact is, until he loses, he cannot be considered a dud (no pun intended!)

[ozziebattler]

Have some of you forgotten the topic..BIGGEST DUDS....WHO LOOKED SO PROMISING...

And you throw up names like Meldrick Taylor and Mark Breland..Yes they didnt fullfill their hype but DUDS???

COME ON PEOPLE..THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER.

[cuchulain]

Have some of you forgotten the topic..BIGGEST DUDS....WHO LOOKED SO PROMISING...

And you throw up names like Meldrick Taylor and Mark Breland..Yes they didnt fullfill their hype but DUDS???

COME ON PEOPLE..THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER.

Precisely !

[joe33]

Not a dud either: A former title holder with 36-1 (31 KOs). Only loss: close fight with a prime great MAB.


Mate that fight was not close,i cant remember the score,but he got schooled by Mab,i fucking loved it,could not stand hamed,great fighter for sure,but came across like a complete bastard as a person IMO.

Also he did not come back from it,Mab knocked the heart out of him for ever,he made a real half hearted come back a bit later,but all the hype and shit talking had gone for good.

[cuchulain]

How you had it is irrelevant also. You wouldnt be Irish by any chance would you? I still feel Duddy is going to get exposed one of these days. It will come in time

When I say how you had it is irrelevant, I meant that in the sense that he's still undefeated. It's the record book that determines whether or not someone has been defeated. In that sense, how I had it is in accordance with the actual result.

(I believe that Oscar should have gotten a clear decision over Tito, but since I wasn't a judge, my score is irrelevant in the sense that Oscar was NOT undefeated after the Trinidad fight.)

Re: Duddy: He's nothing special (so far), but in no sense has he proved to be a dud, at least not yet, regardless of what he MIGHT do in the future, and regardless his or my ethnic background.

[cuchulain]

Mate that fight was not close,i cant remember the score,but he got schooled by Mab,i fucking loved it,could not stand hamed,great fighter for sure,but came across like a complete bastard as a person IMO.

Also he did not come back from it,Mab knocked the heart out of him for ever,he made a real half hearted come back a bit later,but all the hype and shit talking had gone for good.

Most of what you say is true. (The fight was closer than you remember). I'm not a fan. I won $20 on that night and I'll admit some glee in his defeat. He's a bit of an asshole.

That said, he in no way fits the criteria of being a dud. He was a champion with an impressive record, and given the tens of thousands of pugilists toiling away these many decades, he's no worse than top 5 % of all boxers ever.

Hardly a dud.

Nice avatar!

[rvk2007]

Panchito Bojado

[PowerPuncher]

Mate that fight was not close,i cant remember the score,but he got schooled by Mab,i fucking loved it,could not stand hamed,great fighter for sure,but came across like a complete bastard as a person IMO.

Also he did not come back from it,Mab knocked the heart out of him for ever,he made a real half hearted come back a bit later,but all the hype and shit talking had gone for good.

But he unified a division and was champ from 1995-2001, hardly a dud, wasted talent all the same

[Illmatic]

tony ayala jr

[Tito Time]

I was debating throwing his name up there, wasnt he 1996 medalist for olympic boxing team. I know he had problem with cuts, not sure why he retired so early.

Ran into the guy in my avatar...

[El Bombasto]

Olympic gold medallist who won a world title before his he had 20 pro fights.

Totally dominated by tito trinidad and never recovered.Retired like 2 or so bouts after..

Not sure how hes doing these days..He had decent skill but unfortunetly couldnt have the success he did in the amateurs.

Still a olympic gold medal and a pro world title aint a bad level of success.

i think he's a trainer now

[El Bombasto]

sam peter...
................oh, wait a minute, he never looked promising

[Chief_Second]

Pick a weight class and run with it. Some of the heavies are easy:
Gerry Cooney
Leon Spinks
Buster Douglas

Leon Spinks? when was he promising - got ali in his 8th fight for a title shot after beating a padded Alfio Righetti ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) then was no more than a journeyman after the ali fights. ali was very old then and wasn't up to much

[Mike T]

Jorge Luis Gonzales

[cuchulain]

No , He could be a dud depending on how your defining it . He wasn't a loser but it was pretty lame how he acted like he was the greatest and then crumbled after a loss . I'd call that a dud in my book ! :good

You're right about it coming down to definitions.

In my book, a dud is someone who showed promise but then never achieved anything (Perfect example: Audley Harrison)

The prince did certainly have his achievements as I mentioned in my earlier post.

So, as you say, it comes down to your definition of dud.

[MSTR]

Jeff Lacy
Losing to a great fighter doesn't make you a dud.

[SteveO]

Leon Spinks? when was he promising - got ali in his 8th fight for a title shot after beating a padded Alfio Righetti ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) then was no more than a journeyman after the ali fights. ali was very old then and wasn't up to much

Gold medal Olympian and unified champ. Then he tanked and tanked hard. I meant looking promising directly after beating Ali. I'm sure many thought he was the future of the sport. Then he lost to a guy making his pro debut and a guy who retired with a 3-53 record.

[T.S.]

How about Andrew Golota..

Golota for sure, along with...
Tommy Morrison
David Tua
Dominick Guinn

[Illmatic]

everyone here is making terrible picks. A former world champion is not a dud, a solid titlist is not a dud...

[rvk2007]

Its Francisco Bojado!!! Biggest Dud Ever!

[Curtis Lowe]

[quote=rvk2007]Panchito Bojado[/quote

That's a pretty good one. John Wesley Meekins comes to mind, back in the 70s no on was a bigger bust than Duane Bobick.

[Curtis Lowe]

[quote=Mike T]Jorge Luis Gonzales[/quote

That's another good one. This guy beat everybodys ass as an amatuer and completely sucked as a pro.

[Thread Stealer]

Bojado

Ricardo Williams....what a waste of talent.

[Sdt]

bernard dunne was looking pretty good before being starched in 80 seconds

[freddy-wak]

Has Duddy lost a fight yet?

not on paper, but yory boy did whoop his ass

[freddy-wak]

bernard dunne was looking pretty good before being starched in 80 seconds

adrian valdez showed me that along time ago...

[caballo]

Pick a weight class and run with it. Some of the heavies are easy:
Gerry Cooney
Leon Spinks
Buster Douglas

I don't get this. Two out of these three guys won world titles! Cooney was not a dud. He didn't win a world title, but was a very successful fighter. Give someone a break!!!

[Lacyace]

^Yeah, how the hell are you a dud if you became undisputed champion? Makes no sense.

[dave82]

Tony Ayala Jnr - Great talented flushed away
Michael Grant - Pisses me off cos i bought into the hype
Francisco Bojado
Hector Camacho Jnr - what a joke

[tays001]

I'd Have To Say Peter Manfredo Jr:rofl :rofl :rofl

[halfamazin1]

Did someone in here say Hamed...he was like a top 5 p4p in his day...he has one loss...dumbasses...

How bout Lance "goofy" whitaker and Owen Beck...also that heavyweight guy who was in the 2000 olympic class with Ricardo Williams...I think his name was like Michael Bennet...

[SteveO]

^Yeah, how the hell are you a dud if you became undisputed champion? Makes no sense.

Buster became a bloated whale and stopped caring.

Leon Spinks retired with journeyman record of 26-17-3.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Look at the record of James Wilder and Johnny Carlo, fighters who Spinks lost to.

[41fever]

Olympic gold medallist who won a world title before his he had 20 pro fights.

Totally dominated by tito trinidad and never recovered.Retired like 2 or so bouts after..

Not sure how hes doing these days..He had decent skill but unfortunetly couldnt have the success he did in the amateurs.

Still a olympic gold medal and a pro world title aint a bad level of success.Reid? Actually he was beating TITO's butt until rd 7 came and the left hook.

[El Bombasto]

I don't get this. Two out of these three guys won world titles! Cooney was not a dud. He didn't win a world title, but was a very successful fighter. Give someone a break!!!

i think cooney gave a good account of himself in his fight with holmes, but after that fight it was all downhill for gentleman gerry. i think he drank too much and was generally disinterested in boxing.

[anut]

courage thashabala.....merchant was big on him:patsch

[somerset]

Whatever happened to Michael Carruth - 1992 Olympic Welterweight champion from Ireland.

I remember watching Ireland win a Gold and a Silver on that day. The Silver went to Wayne McCullough but what happened to the Gold medalist?

Certainly made less impact than Wayne, Audley or Mr Amir for that matter...

[El Bombasto]

zelenoff

[nervousxtian]

Muhammad Abdullaev

Ricardo Williams

Panchito Bojado

Dominick Guinn

[rodney]

Joe Mesi --- definitely one of the biggest duds.

[the_what]

Ricky Williams was supposed to be better than Cotto, Pinto, Avdullaev, and Bojado coming out of the Olympics.

Dudes in prison now.:lol:

[Dantes]

Vivian Harris

[cannabis]

i like litzau but i don't see him panning out........next KO begins his long slide into "bolivian"

jeff lacy
leon spinks was also a fave of mine

[the_churn]

I've gotta second the vote for Guinn.

[The Kurgan]

There were a number of heavyweight prospects I listed in 2004 whose careers have gone absolutely nowhere upward since-

Joe Mesi

Faruq Saleem

Juan Carlos Gomez

Audley Harrison :patsch

In fact, the only guys I listed that went on to do anything special were Calvin Brock (relatively speaking), Nicolay Valuev and Samuel Peter.