Official Pavlik/Taylor Poll

[marauder1999]

Its been debated over and over--lets see the overall consensus here at ESB of who wins it and how.

[JAM Killer]

Taylor wins, he is more experienced, and has fought against more styles. Taylor, all feelings aside has done a lot in his career, and this will be one more thing for him.

Taylor ko.

[Boyd]

Pavlik KO. around the 9th. taylor won't be able to standup to kellys power.

[nrgetic]

Taylor by KO

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[precision]

i want pavlik to knock taylor out . if he don't taylor will win a decision

[THN]

Taylor is to experienced and will win a ud.

[lillarry]

Taylor wins UD. Youngstown has a week of mourning for their falling hero:|

[psychopath]

AGAIN . . . I want to say . . . this is a 50/50 fight but I'm picking TAYLOR. :yep

Note that I have a standing 6 months avatar and sig bet on this against Amsterdam. :D :good

[Relentless]

taylor late ko/tko or ud

[Robbi]

Pavlik will bring out the best in Taylor.

[Carlos Primera]

Pavlik banishes that fraud with one of those heavy right hands of his in the 11th.... and down goes Taylor! :yep
:lol: gonna be an execution come october!

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Pavlik vs Taylor is going to be a brutal war won by Kelly in 7!!!!!!!

[ChampionsForever]

Taylor UD. ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

[pipe wrenched]

Pavlik in the 7th. It will come in the form of a very fast 1-2. It will happen when JT least expects it and finally paws with "even one" of his jabs, and then the left will be like tap, then faster than one would think POP comes the right. Down with the champ.

[mikeyc]

This will be Pavlik's toughest challenge Bar-None! Pavlik will weather Jermain's early quickness by touching him just enough to make Taylor knows he's in for a long night. About the 5th round Taylor will find the ropes, allowing Pavlik and opportunity to find clean shots. The onslaught will continue for Pavlik until the 9th, when he puts Taylor out for GOOD! Michael Buffer says "AND THE NEW MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD....."

[heidegger]

Tayloy KO. Early rounds.

[jsimps]

Pavlik will punch a hole through Taylor large enough for us to see lillarry on the other side. Y-town has another Champ!!!

[AJAX]

another close disputed Taylor UD, but I'd love to see Pavlik lay him out

[Zakman]

Pavlk will expose the overrated Taylor and knock him the f*ck OUT.

Can't get a gift decision when you're out cold on the canvas! :-(

[41fever]

Imma go out on a limb and go with Pavlik by KO

[DoumB]

Pavlik By KO around round 9

[marauder1999]

BTW I find it very telling that no one has picked Pavlik by decision yet. Seems like no one in the history of mankind could get a fair shake and win a decision over Taylor.

70 voters as of right now and only 2 of them think that Pavlik will win by decision.

That right there absolutely shows that the consensus around here thinks Taylor gets gift decisions and that no one is "ALLOWED" to beat him unless you knock his ass out. Ok, Yes, Im a huge Pavlik fan but thats not the reason I bash Taylor. Taylor gets bashed because of what he has been given over the years and the majority of you also feel that way.

[marauder1999]

Just making sure everyone has voted that wants too.

[The Kurgan]

My prediction- Pavlik wins something like 8-4, vastly outworking. Lampley ignores Pavlik's punches, bangs on about misses Taylor shots, and the fight is scored 7-5 Taylor. There is never a rematch.

Taylor UD.

[marauder1999]

My prediction- Pavlik wins something like 8-4, vastly outworking. Lampley ignores Pavlik's punches, bangs on about misses Taylor shots, and the fight is scored 7-5 Taylor. There is never a rematch.

Taylor UD.

You got the lampley thing probably right--I mean he is the worst nuthugger of taylor--Im just curious to see how and what lampley has to say about pavlik.

[Brickhaus]

Taylor by close decision, and the haters will all scream that he was gifted another decision.

[Ambition_Def]

I think Jermain has gotten where he is on steam and heart. That is exactly why he won't make it the distance with Pavlik. Way too much firepower coming back at him this time. Pavlik by stoppage.

[klion22]

Taylor by KO or decision. Probably KO because both guys are going to be exchanging.

[tpuz]

Taylor by KO or decision. Probably KO because both guys are going to be exchanging.If Taylor exchanges, that will be a huge mistake for Jermain. Pavliks last few fights have been fought in close, with lots of exchanges, and we all know how they ended. Taylor's only chance is to keep some distance between himself and Pavlik, via the jab, which I believe is not even close to what it used to be.

[Pimp C]

Taylor by UD. Remember Taylor can't lose on HBO.:yep

[EastCoastBias]

UMM to the gentleman that said taylor would KO kelly...Kelly would have to stand with his hand behind his back for four rounds to get knocked out by a guy who can't knock out OUMA..... If you don't believe me watch HBO before the fight. Kelly is training with world class people that have him more jacked than ever and down in weight. One thing to bet the house on is that Taylor will not knockdown the Ghost:hat

[brooklyn1550]

Kelly Pavlik TKO7 Jermain Taylor

I've thought this through for a while now and factored in everything. Overall, I am very confident that Pavlik beats Taylor...probably by a knockout.

[Quik]

Taylor by UD. Remember Taylor can't lose on HBO.:yep

Yea right, even if he gets ktfo they will make it a NC or something:hey.

[fishergrad05]

The time is at hand! There will be a new Middleweight Champion of the World. The new champ will prove his own "bad intentions" against a fighter whom encountered a 4 year old from St. Louis who danced in and out of the ring and made me, Lederman, and the rest of the boxing world absolutly sick. Lets talk about power, speed, the chin, stamina, and overall boxing style. Lets ask this question to Miranda. Hey Miranda hows your face? It hurts muy much. Yeah I saw the pictures it looked brutal. SI SI, it was. Thanks, Miranda way to get KTFO!!! Prediction concerning the Taylor/Pavlik fight. PAIN MUY PAIN

[JETSKI]

The time is at hand! There will be a new Middleweight Champion of the World. The new champ will prove his own "bad intentions" against a fighter whom encountered a 4 year old from St. Louis who danced in and out of the ring and made me, Lederman, and the rest of the boxing world absolutly sick. Lets talk about power, speed, the chin, stamina, and overall boxing style. Lets ask this question to Miranda. Hey Miranda hows your face? It hurts muy much. Yeah I saw the pictures it looked brutal. SI SI, it was. Thanks, Miranda way to get KTFO!!! Prediction concerning the Taylor/Pavlik fight. PAIN MUY PAIN

I take it you think KP is gonna do a number?

Whats "MUY"???

Much?

Anyway...Welcome, newbie.

[El Bombasto]

hopefully pavlik by ko, but probably taylor by ud

[JETSKI]

hopefully pavlik by ko, but probably taylor by ud

It will have to be the BIGGEST robbery in the history of the sport!:fire

[marauder1999]

Taylor by KO or decision. Probably KO because both guys are going to be exchanging.

Pavlik throws harder than taylor--by exchanging, pavlik has the upper hand----therefore winning the fight.

[A-50]

If Pavlik does not KO Taylor he will lose a Decision even if he wins 10 rounds. Taylor (other than Glass Jaw Wlad) is HBO's poster boy.

[Alo2006]

Pavlik will bring out the best in Taylor.

I've been saying this for a minute now. Taylor by UD :yep

[JETSKI]

If Pavlik does not KO Taylor he will lose a Decision even if he wins 10 rounds. Taylor (other than Glass Jaw Wlad) is HBO's poster boy.

You mean "was' their poster boy. Time for new blood!!!

[marauder1999]

And the new middlweight champion of the world,,,,,,,,,,

[lillarry]

And still middlweight champion of the world,,,,,,,,,,



:yep

[jsimps]

:yep

That can only be said after the rematch.

[lillarry]

That can only be said after the rematch.

How about a avatar bet friend?

[pound4pound]

accurate power punches by the ghost will ktfo taylor... :smoke

[jsimps]

How about a avatar bet friend?

Absolutely! I am confident Kelly will beat JT.

[lillarry]

Absolutely! I am confident Kelly will beat JT.

So I guess you will be sporting JT with all of his belts in your avatar come sept 29:yep

[dwilson]

I hope Pavlik wins and by brutal knockout, he seems a nice guy and he has very explosive entertaining fights.

If Talyor wins I will give the man his dues that he is the best around but I really hope he gets beat bad. The likes of him and Hopkins ruined maybe the greatest division in boxing history . Hopefully Pavlik is the man to save it and take it forward.

Arthur Abraham for the winner.

[jsimps]

So I guess you will be sporting JT with all of his belts in your avatar come sept 29:yep

Only if KP doesn't make it out of Y-town for some reason.
Has anybody factored the crowd into this fight? Has JT ever experienced a hostile crowd? I know the crowd can really get a fighter going.

[fightfanatic1]

i voted kelly pavlik by (T)KO. This is a tough fight to call but i think jermains regressions under emmanuel will finally cause him to lose.

[El Bombasto]

i hope kp wins, although i expect taylor to win, but i wonder how many people who voted for pavlik really expect him to pull it off rather than just dislike taylor and want him to lose

[JETSKI]

i hope kp wins, although i expect taylor to win, but i wonder how many people who voted for pavlik really expect him to pull it off rather than just dislike taylor and want him to lose

Start a new thread/poll to that affect & see how the numbers work out. I personally want KP to win & believe he will win without a shadow of a doubt.

[DanePugilist]

Think the judges will be out of more favours for Taylor - His time is up, by either KO or decision. Taylor is no longer a marketable product...

[JETSKI]

Think the judges will be out of more favours for Taylor - His time is up, by either KO or decision. Taylor is no longer a marketable product...

Thats right. Time for some new blood. And even if Taylor is standing at the end, they won't be able to rob Kelly, cause the beating will be so obvious, there will be no way in hell they could hand him the decision.

[*BOX_FAN*]

Taylor by SD.

[Fab2333]

taylor late ko/tko or ud:deal
I agree here

[bigeddie27]

ill be there sep. 29 AC baby! Ill see you fools on the poker table, if you dare! by the way, you will know who i am because I will be starting the 'Taylor!, Taylor!, Taylor!' chants throughout the whole fight. If any of you taylor fans will be there, join me with the chant. Lets do it the whole fight! my plan is arrive at AC 5:00pm, sit on poker table, play tight as hell (so i dont lose anything) and get drunk for free. 2 hours and 100 rum and cokes later - i will begin the taylor chants even when the undercards start. whos with me?

[jsimps]

ill be there sep. 29 AC baby! Ill see you fools on the poker table, if you dare! by the way, you will know who i am because I will be starting the 'Taylor!, Taylor!, Taylor!' chants throughout the whole fight. If any of you taylor fans will be there, join me with the chant. Lets do it the whole fight!

That crowd is going to be 3/4's Pavlik. Almost all of Y-town will be there.

[bigeddie27]

That crowd is going to be 3/4's Pavlik. Almost all of Y-town will be there.
i know, thats why i am going to get fired up for taylor. maybe start a riot who knows? dude this fight is going to be so hype.

[jsimps]

I don't think you want to do that. Y-town has a rep. LOL

[fishergrad05]

i know, thats why i am going to get fired up for taylor. maybe start a riot who knows? dude this fight is going to be so hype.

You definately don't want to do that. You must not know about Youngstown and the type of people from there. Your boy will though sooner than later!

[bigeddie27]

You definately don't want to do that. You must not know about Youngstown and the type of people from there. Your boy will though sooner than later!

ok maybe ill chill on the riot, but you guys gotta admit, there has not been a good riot in awhile! I will definetly be antogonizing them though. even if it is my lone chant vs all of them. This is gonna be fun.

[jsimps]

The last good riot was at the Indiana Pacer game w/ Artest.

[TanstA]

damn... 73 for Pavlik by KO =O

[Mistadobalina]

i'll be honest, i voted for what i want to happen, not necessarily what i think will happen :)

[marauder1999]

Want to happen--think will happen--its all the same--And New middleweight champion of the world---

[chliJs]

hate to say, but taylor decision.

[Zakman]

It's now little more than a week until HBO hype job Taylor gets EXPOSED!! :happy

He's not fighting some light-hitting fighter moving up from a lower weight class THIS time!! :-(

Can't get a gift decision when you're OUT COLD on the canvas!! :-( :lol:

[jsimps]

10 Days!!!!

[marauder1999]

And the new middlweight champion of the world---

[Lacyace]

Will someone up this thread after Pavlik loses? There's some gonna be some crow-eating bastards come September 30th.

[Jersey Boxer]

It might take him a bit longer but Pavlik will get rid of Taylor late...my prediction 11th rd...

[Scar]

Taylor by UD. :yep

[marauder1999]

Oh--this poll will be bumped after the fight--u can guarantee that.

[marauder1999]

44% picking pavlik-WOW!!!!

[Rise Above]

I'd love to see Pavlik win but I dont see it happening.

Taylor UD.

[marauder1999]

1 week until 90 some of you eat your words on this poll.

[hmi]

Taylor by KO

[Sug3]

1 week until 90 some of you eat your words on this poll.After taylor beats the great white hype,i want u to get rid of that avatar,because it's disrespectful to ali.

[marauder1999]

After taylor beats the great white hype,i want u to get rid of that avatar,because it's disrespectful to ali.

It will come down if Taylor beats pavlik. Great white hype huh? Nothing like throwing race into the equation again.

[Ambition_Def]

After taylor beats the great white hype,i want u to get rid of that avatar,because it's disrespectful to ali.

He'll be takin it down alright, to put up a legitimate photo of Pavlik knocking Taylor on his ass. :yep

[lillarry]

It will come down if Taylor beats pavlik. Great white hype huh? Nothing like throwing race into the equation again.

Hey Marauder are you stay around after the 29th or go into hiding with Amsterdam?;)

[Zakman]

He'll be takin it down alright, to put up a legitimate photo of Pavlik knocking Taylor on his ass. :yep

Exactly. Can't wait to see that HBO hype job knocked into "bolivian.":happy

Can't get a gift decision when yer OUT COLD ON THE CANVAS!!:-(:lol:

[standing 8]

The poll could have used some more options. Right now I'm leaning towards Pavlik, but this fight could go either way.

[brooklyn1550]

This looks like a 50/50 fight accoring to us fans. Split right down the middle basically.

[marauder1999]

Hey Marauder are you stay around after the 29th or go into hiding with Amsterdam?;)

Oh ill be around--Like i said if taylor wins convincingly---Yes, convincingly I will take the avatar down but I think as well as half the other ESB members that Taylor is going to eat canvas real soon.

[marauder1999]

Just keeping it bumped so that everyone votes.

[Lacyace]

Damn, 99-99. ESB is split right down the middle.

[Alo2006]

It's going to be a lot of disappointed Pavlik fans on here :yep

[Marnoff]

Unbelievably close poll. Wow.

Taylor winning by one vote.

[booradley]

UMM to the gentleman that said taylor would KO kelly...Kelly would have to stand with his hand behind his back for four rounds to get knocked out by a guy who can't knock out OUMA..... If you don't believe me watch HBO before the fight. Kelly is training with world class people that have him more jacked than ever and down in weight. One thing to bet the house on is that Taylor will not knockdown the Ghost:hat

To quote Bronco McKart after he suffered the first knock out of his long career, "I think this kid is the real deal."

It's my feeling that a lot of the people who bad mouth Pavlik have not followed his career very closely. The idea that he is a straight forward slugger that can't box is ridiculous. "The Ghost" moniker was given to him because of his ability to be elusive. Just because he prefers to fight a certain way does not mean it's the only thing he knows how to do. Further, all the critizisms people have for Kelly Pavlik; ie, slow of foot, stands up to tall, mediocre hand speed, one dimensional, et, were also made of a young man by the name of Alexis Arguello, and WE KNOW how things turned out for him! Taylor has no chance against Pavlik. If he pot shots and moves a lot Kelly WILL catch him and take him out in 10 or 11 rounds. If he goes to war with the Ghost, he won't hear the bell for round 7!

Boo

[PH|LLA]

its dead even

[psychopath]

Damn, 99-99. ESB is split right down the middle.

That's for real . . . because the fight is 50/50 fight for both. :D

:yep :good

[Dorfmeister]

I honestly expect this to turn out to be very much like Arthur Abraham vs Khoren Gevor, somebody is gonna dry the strength out of the other like water from a bursted hose or air from a popped balloon and overcome the other in the final rally - it is senseless to believe that Kelly will throttle Jermain justlikethat or that Jermain will unleash some withheld potential that will have Kelly outclassed - even if something out of the ordinary happens, I still believe beforehand that these guys are well matched. Down the line, Jermain's acquired experience at top level may prove to be essential whereas Kelly is just 25 and has time left to comeback strong...

[Sai]

Unfortunately I think Taylor will probably get the nod with retardedly 1 sided cards despite a very even fight.

[mad_takamura]

taylor must outbox pav. he might win either an sd or a ud.

[JETSKI]

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((GO PAVLIK)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Hello, Guys! I'm up in Maine having a great time. Lots of lobster & trying to make to week last as long as possible, cause yjis coming Sat., its back to Jersey & then down to AC for the fight.

Talk to you guuys is a day or so.

[tpuz]

Who is going to ref?

[Andre]

It's going to be a lot of disappointed Pavlik fans on here :yep

:yep


Taylor UD, cant wait for this fight :D

[marauder1999]

Who is going to ref?

Probably a Taylor lover who lampley hires. I cant wait for pavlik to knock taylor out just to hear lampley cry like a baby---or should I say hear lampley make every excuse in the book for taylors ass whooping.

[klion22]

Can't wait for this fight. It's going to be good. And it's FREE!

[Boinko]

Probably a Taylor lover who lampley hires. I cant wait for pavlik to knock taylor out just to hear lampley cry like a baby---or should I say hear lampley make every excuse in the book for taylors ass whooping.

Actually, I don't see any reason why HBO won't be glad for a Pavlik victory. The guy is young, exciting to watch, is a great puncher and is personable.

There's no reason he can't be marketed just as successfully as Taylor, if not more so.

It's something of a win/win situation for HBO, in my opinion. (barring a really boring fight, or controversial decision)

[marauder1999]

Very true Boinko but I dont see Lampley nut hugging Pavlik when he becomes champ like he has nut hugged taylor all this time.

[lillarry]

A couple more days until Jermain reestablishes himself as the man in the middleweight division. :happy

[dimi_dinev]

Pavlik by KO.

Obviously the 'Pavlik by decision'-option seems to be the least probable to the forum (until now, at least).

[Sug3]

The poll shows pavlik by ko or taylor by decision,taylor is gonna win by ud and i wouldn't be suprised if taylor wins by tko,there's no way pavlik can win a decision,so that means he has no choice but to come forward and get countered all night.

[Boinko]

Very true Boinko but I dont see Lampley nut hugging Pavlik when he becomes champ like he has nut hugged taylor all this time.

If Pavlik beats Taylor and ends up being the guy at middleweight, I think Lampley is just as capable as showing Kelly some man love.

Either way, Pavlik might actually end up being a better draw for HBO at middleweight anyways since he's more action oriented than Jermain and a better puncher.

However, I'm still going with Taylor by UD!

[Relentless]

You may be a disgusting Malignaggisexual, but that is a good assesment there VP. Taylor, via BRUTAL stoppage, round 9, TKO Pavlik.

thank you there mr president of the oscarsexual fan club.

taylor is going to decapitate pavlik, just a few more days till pavlik is eating through a straw.

[Zakman]

Just a couple more days til Pavlik exposes this HBO hype job and his questionable punch resistance, and BRUTALLY knocks Taylor the f*ck out! :yep

Cant' wait!! :happy

[Executioner]

taylor late ko/tko or ud

:lol: from an average-hitting Taylor?:patsch

[Tuavale]

Pavlik express rolls on. KO in 7.

[Dorfmeister]

accurate power punches by the ghost will ktfo taylor... :smoke

And how do you expect exactly the Ghost to ktfo him, pound4pound? Even if he has that nickname, Kelly doesn't have the powers to disappear and he can't throw invisible punches at him! Not expecting Taylor to be a great counter puncher as well, Jermain has the advantage that Kelly has to seize the initiative so that he can land his jab on his face more often than not so I hope that ultimately Pavlik doesn't come to reap what he'll sow for his sake... I don't see any plan B, C or D for Kelly other than coming forward and so may Manny and Jermain.

[marauder1999]

A couple more days until Jermain finally shows the world hes a fluke. :happy

:good

[marauder1999]

Taylor is winning by one vote.

[Fab2333]

Taylor is winning by one vote.
Taylor has fought better opposition that Pavlik, and won them all, mayb not impressively but won. And still remains undefeated, while Pvlik beat one decent fighter in Miranda. So whos the fluke here?:huh

[pipe wrenched]

Taylor is winning by one vote.

Ain't that a bitch. Pavlik KO 7. Did you guys see the thread stating Pavlik will be on live chat at 3 ET on ESPN page? I know I'm gonna check it out.

[pipe wrenched]

Taylor has fought better opposition that Pavlik, and won them all, mayb not impressively but won. And still remains undefeated, while Pvlik beat one decent fighter in Miranda. So whos the fluke here?:huh

IMO, nobody can be exposed as a fluke in a World Championship fight. You get EXPOSED when you've been blastin tomato cans and as soon as you step it up you get destroyed. No matter who wins/loses neither of these guys are a fluke and will be around for long time to come. And I'm pretty sure Fulgencio Zuniga, Bronco McKart, and Zertuche are at least decent.

Pavlik KO JT 7.

[marauder1999]

Dead Even!!!

[Max Molyneux]

Most boxing fans overrate brawlers badly.

[marauder1999]

Most boxing fans overrate brawlers badly.

Kessler huh?

[Stickandmove]

IMO, nobody can be exposed as a fluke in a World Championship fight. You get EXPOSED when you've been blastin tomato cans and as soon as you step it up you get destroyed. No matter who wins/loses neither of these guys are a fluke and will be around for long time to come. And I'm pretty sure Fulgencio Zuniga, Bronco McKart, and Zertuche are at least decent.

Pavlik KO JT 7.

Pavlik UD8 Anthony Ivory (29-66-4)

So Pavlik's gonna stop Jermain Taylor (who has never been floored as a pro) in 7 rounds when he failed to stop a journeyman with 66 losses on his record?

Taylor easily outboxes Pavlik

[Stickandmove]

Hopkins UD12 Pavlik
Wright UD12 Pavlik
Spinks UD12 Pavlik
Ouma UD12 Pavlik
Taylor UD12 Pavlik

I'm looking for Pavlik to show on Saturday that he's anything other than a heavy handed future journeyman.

[tpuz]

Pavlik UD8 Anthony Ivory (29-66-4)

So Pavlik's gonna stop Jermain Taylor (who has never been floored as a pro) in 7 rounds when he failed to stop a journeyman with 66 losses on his record?

Taylor easily outboxes PavlikThat's about the worst arguement I've ever heard. You find 1 of the 3 people he didn't KO out of his 31 fights, and that's your arguement. Kelly has KO'd several people that have never been KO'd before, and tomorrow, he will add to that list.

[jsimps]

That's about the worst arguement I've ever heard. You find 1 of the 3 people he didn't KO out of his 31 fights, and that's your arguement. Kelly has KO'd several people that have never been KO'd before, and tomorrow, he will add to that list.

Agree!:good

[Sister Sledge]

Tis poll just show's how underrated Taylor is. It's his own fault, but he is underrated nonetheless.

[Stezzie]

Tis poll just show's how underrated Taylor is. It's his own fault, but he is underrated nonetheless.

Exactly...These guys just have their favorites and when it comes to the favorites all logic goes out the window and the baised post come rolling in. Pavlik is a big strong slow middleweight with great knockout power but I don't think he will even have an answer to Taylors jab. Speed will be a significant factor in this fight and Pavlik does not have it. He will simply be beat to the punch...

[marauder1999]

Umm---?

[Boyd]

Umm---?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[marauder1999]

hmmmmmmm----

[Jersey Boxer]

Exactly...These guys just have their favorites and when it comes to the favorites all logic goes out the window and the baised post come rolling in. Pavlik is a big strong slow middleweight with great knockout power but I don't think he will even have an answer to Taylors jab. Speed will be a significant factor in this fight and Pavlik does not have it. He will simply be beat to the punch...


looks like ur prediction has come true...congrats!!!:happy

Taylor tried to knock pavlik out and Pavlik said-->:fuckoff:vonnecunt

[cross_trainer]

I'll pick Taylor by knockout in the third. A Pavlik victory is about as unlikely as Bergeron looking like a muppet.

[tays001]

i got i tright

[marauder1999]

So lets see who picked who in the first fight