I'm convinced Campbell beats Bradley

[slip&counter]

i've watched a lot of Bradley and i just think campbell wins this fight and maybe more comfortably then we may think

i don't really know how to describe bradleys fightgame, the guy is not a boxer, brawler or a slugger he's not a slicksters or a pressure fighter, he's just athletic with a high output.

this fight might mirror campbell vs diaz although bradley is much more precise with a bigger pop, he has some similarities with diaz, he walks into punches, his style of throwing wide looping shots and leading with hooks will get him in trouble against a technician like Nate Campbell and he'll look inept on the inside against Nate.

Campbell is a master on the inside, which will be the key in this fight, apart from Hopkins no one in the game throws better short 6-inch punches and i just think bradley is in for a bit of a schooling, this weight will suit Nate better and make him stronger, the guy was boiling down to 135 for so long and may explain is performance against Funeka, although Funeka is underated and can box, i don't see to many lightweights lining up to face the South African. The only question for me is whether Campbell may be slightly over the hill against a strong young athletic guy other then that this is Campbells fight and he should win a UD or even a late KO with Bradley busted up.

[GPater11093]

i im going to watch some mor eof them this week

[Losfer_Words]

At fucking last! I'm with you, Slip. Nate will expose the hypejob for what he is.

[kosaros]

At fucking last! I'm with you, Slip. Nate will expose the hypejob for what he is.

You really do hate him :lol:

[Losfer_Words]

You really do hate him :lol:

Break the fight down for me:D. I don't see how Bradley wins. Bradley is the disease and Nate has the cure.

[LHL]

I agree Slip. Bradley is good i like the guy but Campbell will bully the bully just like he did to Juan Diaz. I might even go as far as predicting a KO for Campbell

["TKO"]

I'm not. I am yet to be convinced Campbell is any more than a one hit wonder, a decent world level fighter who had a great night/ great style matchup with Diaz. A kind of Buster Douglas, though not to such ridiculous extremes (i.e. he wasn't that badly thought of and Diaz was certainly not Tyson). Those losses to Peden etc... were for a reason and they weren't all because he stuck his chin out and copped a left hook for his troubles. He's 35 as well and unproven at 140. That said, I was not as impressed with Bradley last time out as I was against Witter so who knows but I think he starts a favourite and rightly so. Of course the Americans will make whoever wins out to be the second coming of Christ!

[GPater11093]

ill wathc it and break this fight down

by it i mean there fights

[Losfer_Words]

Slip, you should put a poll up as well:good- it'll be interesting to see the votes per boxer.

[slip&counter]

losfer..how do i do that? :patsch

[slip&counter]

I'm not. I am yet to be convinced Campbell is any more than a one hit wonder, a decent world level fighter who had a great night/ great style matchup with Diaz. A kind of Buster Douglas, though not to such ridiculous extremes (i.e. he wasn't that badly thought of and Diaz was certainly not Tyson). Those losses to Peden etc... were for a reason and they weren't all because he stuck his chin out and copped a left hook for his troubles. He's 35 as well and unproven at 140. That said, I was not as impressed with Bradley last time out as I was against Witter so who knows but I think he starts a favourite and rightly so. Of course the Americans will make whoever wins out to be the second coming of Christ!

:patsch

are you serious? what an ignorant statement, have you seen the guy fight? Nate's one of the most skilled guys in the game

don't look at previous fights, this is boxing and style makes fights

[Losfer_Words]

losfer..how do i do that? :patsch

'Thread tools' at the top and then click on 'add poll':good.

[slip&counter]

cheers, mate

[Mandanda]

Bradley's really dirty with the head so i hope this don't ruin what should be a good fight.

Nate has the skill and smarts to cause him trouble. Tim is a solid world champion but i agree Nate has a chance as long as he settles in at 140 which he should. Holt should of out boxed him but got lazy and didn't do enough to beat Bradley...i don't see Nate letting him off hook if he gets into groove.

[slip&counter]

I've used this allegory before but Bradley against someone like Nate, will look like a learner driving a car, moving the steering unsteadily and topsy tervy, resulting in haphazard movements. the car would not run steady on its side, its topsy tervy movements shall effect the driver himself, sometimes he may be going on his side and sometimes off his side. It may fall into any ditch any time or dash against any wall recieve jolts in ups downs...

[Losfer_Words]

Campbell UD. I'm so confident that I've put money on it (and second place status) on Boxpicks:yep.

[slip&counter]

Bradley's really dirty with the head so i hope this don't ruin what should be a good fight.

Nate has the skill and smarts to cause him trouble. Tim is a solid world champion but i agree Nate has a chance as long as he settles in at 140 which he should. Holt should of out boxed him but got lazy and didn't do enough to beat Bradley...i don't see Nate letting him off hook if he gets into groove.

yer, this is gonna be fought largely on the inside and the heads are gonna be bumping

i just think Nate is hungary and on a mission, young Timothy is gonna be in for shock on how crafty this old guy is

[LHL]

Campbell TKO late i think maybe in the 12th. Bradley looked done against Holt near the end and Campbell fights at a better pace.

[slip&counter]

poll added

[ishy]

I can see Nate winning this, I really can. Bradley is a very 'basic', come forward boxer. Nate is slick on the inside, look at how he beat Juan Diaz there. He beat Diaz at his own game, keypunching and out landing him.

However, Bradley seems very strong mentally and seems to 'want it' if you know what I mean. Nate disheartened Diaz and then cut him and that made things even worse for Juan. Bradley seems like he can keep his cool under pressure and overcome whatever Nate throws at him. I think Bradley wins this close on the undercards but I would not at all be surprised to see a Campbell win.

[Losfer_Words]

I can see Nate winning this, I really can. Bradley is a very 'basic', come forward boxer. Nate is slick on the inside, look at how he beat Juan Diaz there. He beat Diaz at his own game, keypunching and out landing him.

However, Bradley seems very strong mentally and seems to 'want it' if you know what I mean. Nate disheartened Diaz and then cut him and that made things even worse for Juan. Bradley seems like he can keep his cool under pressure and overcome whatever Nate throws at him. I think Bradley wins this close on the undercards but I would not at all be surprised to see a Campbell win.

That's Carl Froch's favourite phrase:lol:! I disagree with your post on who wins (go back a page) but the wording you chose just made me think of so many Froch interviews!:lol:

[ishy]

That's Carl Froch's favourite phrase:lol:! I agree with your post (go back a page) but the wording you chose just made me think of so many Froch interviews!:lol:

:lol::lol:

[Mandanda]

Here's Part One And Three Of Nate Campbell's HBO Ring Life (Part Two Won't Come Up For Me...sorry in advance...but it still a very good insight in Nate's Mindset and the frame of mind he was in before the Funeka Fight)

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I seen Nate's mindet and Bradley's training regime which if you haven't seen it....Brutal is the word.

This will be a war of attrition in my opinion.

[kosaros]

It will be a great fight - I will vote when it is closer to fight night, I still need to think :good

[Mandanda]

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Good interview on the fight.

Nate has some words about Amir Khan early on in interview aswell.

[hitman_hatton1]

i think bradley will win this.

he mixes it up better.

faster. :bbb

outworks campbell over the distance. :good

[slip&counter]

cheers, mandanda :good

this is gonna be in cali. right? Nate better make sure or he might get jobbed DK ain't helping him out because of the problems they've been having.

it'll be interesting if Witter faces Bradley if Bradley gets beat badly and Junior wins that WBC strap back, it'll be back to square one

[cupid]

Bradly UD

[slip&counter]

i think bradley will win this.

he mixes it up better.

faster. :bbb

outworks campbell over the distance. :good

wrong, he ain't faster

so hows he gonna do it because Nate is a stylistic nightmere for him and he sure as hell ain't outworking him either, this ain't witter or holt

[JonOli]

I may have a small punt on Campbell just for a bit of fun as he is over 2/1.

Bradley didn't look anything too special last time out against Holt.

At 37 though Campbell...

[Bodysnatcher]

Bradley's just relentless. Not much pop in his punches, but he keeps coming and coming. Fantastic conditioning. Kind of fighter I enjoy watching.

Can't wait for Saturday night actually, it's great when a card has two solid fights that could go either way.

[slip&counter]

Bradley's just relentless. Not much pop in his punches, but he keeps coming and coming. Fantastic conditioning. Kind of fighter I enjoy watching.

Can't wait for Saturday night actually, it's great when a card has two solid fights that could go either way.

he's relentless but not always smart with it and it can be used against him, i just think this is Nate's retirement party remember how silly he made Diaz look. if this fight is kept in short distance Nate can chop away to a ugly but fair decision. the thing that slightly makes me nervous is that Bradley always just wins and he's so damn determined. His fightgame is as vanilla as they come but he manages to outwork all his opposition though. Plus Tim's a strong little guy and this being Nate's first fight at 140 and at his age it might be tough for him to bully the kid. That said I've got Nate by decision and i'm still convinced. rarely wrong when i'm convinced

[Flea Man]

It's gonna' be close IMO and will go to the undefeated youngster.

Bradley 115-113.

[Farmboxer]

It all depends on which Campbell comes into the ring. He seems to find a way to blow his fights many times in the past, but at his best he can do it.

["TKO"]

:patsch

are you serious? what an ignorant statement, have you seen the guy fight? Nate's one of the most skilled guys in the game

don't look at previous fights, this is boxing and style makes fights

I'm totally serious, I've seen him fight plenty of times and I just don't rate him that highly. Sure he is skilled but nothing on the level of a Mayweather/Marquez/ other elite operators. If he beats Bradley then I'll reconsider but the Diaz fight apart he's looked pretty ordinary to me. As I said, Buster Douglas was obviously a very skilled guy as well, but that one glory night as a huge underdog eclipsed everything else he had done in his career to date. I'm not saying Nate is going to blow up to 20 stone and get knocked out in 3 rounds in his next significant fight like Douglas did, it was just an analogy.

["TKO"]

I may have a small punt on Campbell just for a bit of fun as he is over 2/1.

Bradley didn't look anything too special last time out against Holt.

At 37 though Campbell...

This is about how I see it as well. Bradley is a solid but unspectacular champion but has great heart and can impose his game on opponents. A lot depends on whether Campbell can impose his will on him the same way he did to Diaz. He does seem to be a hit and miss operator though, one thing you will get with Bradley is consistency.

["TKO"]

By the way do I take it nobody is aware yet of any plans to show this fight on TV? Would have been a good card with Witter/Alexander on the undercard as well.

[trotter]

Tough one to call.

I think I'll go with Bradley's strength and athleticism.

But if Nate can make him fight his type of inside fight, you never know. Nate will do the cleaner work in close if they spend long periods there exchanging.

Should be an intriguing fight, not sure Bradley will be in too many 'exciting' fights though

[hitman_hatton1]

wrong, he ain't faster

so hows he gonna do it because Nate is a stylistic nightmere for him and he sure as hell ain't outworking him either, this ain't witter or holt

well we'll see who's faster on the night won't we. :yep

bradley changes his style up a lot better.

campbell's form is always hit and miss.

he usually prefers boxing come forward fighters.

his best performances have been against come forward fighters.

diaz, kid diamond, peden 1 (until he hung his chin out :patsch).

bradley can box a bit and bang a bit.

he'll give him different things to look at. :bbb

[GPater11093]

I've used this allegory before but Bradley against someone like Nate, will look like a learner driving a car, moving the steering unsteadily and topsy tervy, resulting in haphazard movements. the car would not run steady on its side, its topsy tervy movements shall effect the driver himself, sometimes he may be going on his side and sometimes off his side. It may fall into any ditch any time or dash against any wall recieve jolts in ups downs...

You got hay fever or something. :good

good analogy

yer, this is gonna be fought largely on the inside and the heads are gonna be bumping

i just think Nate is hungary and on a mission, young Timothy is gonna be in for shock on how crafty this old guy is

Its going to be rough, Bradleys not dirty with his head but reckless and Nate is just a crafty fox inside.

Itll be a great fight but im DLing some more Bradley figths then i will deliver my expert opinion tommorow some time

[bruno's_chin]

Is the fight on British TV?

[ishy]

Is the fight on British TV?

:-(

[slip&counter]

You got hay fever or something. :good

good analogy

:lol:

i'm pretty sure thats an appropriate word

[bruno's_chin]

:-(

Is that a No, or a shake of the head for me not knowing :D

[ishy]

Is that a No, or a shake of the head for me not knowing :D

:lol: Unfortunately it's a no even though Junior Witter is also on the card.

[bruno's_chin]

Kind of ruins my nights, was going into town for a good drinking session watching the cricket, then thought i could watch this when i got back,

Is there any other fights on on sat night, i haven't had chance to look at the TV Guides

[ishy]

Kind of ruins my nights, was going into town for a good drinking session watching the cricket, then thought i could watch this when i got back,

Is there any other fights on on sat night, i haven't had chance to look at the TV Guides

There's no scheduled live boxing on British tv for a while.

[bruno's_chin]

Gutted, I'll have to give it a miss, was really hoping to see more of Campbell, only ever saw the Diaz Fight plus highlights of the first Peden Fight,

Was the Diaz fight his greatest performance by a mile? how did he hold against Casamayor a few years back?

[GPater11093]

:lol:

i'm pretty sure thats an appropriate word

im allergic to wrong words

[teessider]

Bradley is the disease and Nate has the cure.
someone has been watching Cobra :yep

[slip&counter]

Gutted, I'll have to give it a miss, was really hoping to see more of Campbell, only ever saw the Diaz Fight plus highlights of the first Peden Fight,

Was the Diaz fight his greatest performance by a mile? how did he hold against Casamayor a few years back?

Diaz was a masterful performance, but he had such a stylistic advantage, no way should he have been that much of an underdog (needless to say i called it)

his best performance for me was against casamayor if you put it into perspective, he was a relative novice at championship level despite is advanced age he gave a prime casa all he could handle and i might've scored that fight a draw (long time since i watched it) wouldn't argue with a split but no way a clear UD for casa, the fact that casa ducked him for a rematch in which campbell tried everything including literally chasing him around to make happen and that casa was willing to face a diaz that nate had already beaten shows you what casa thought, he should've beaten hlatshwayo as well.

[GPater11093]

away to watch Bradley vs Cherry

[slip&counter]

im allergic to wrong words

Allegory: The representation of abstract ideas or principles by characters, figures, or events in narrative, dramatic, or pictorial form. :tong

they way i should've put it is "what i said regarding Campbell vs bradley can be put in an allegory" :good

[GPater11093]

S&C it wasnt an abstract idea

wathced a bit of Bradley seen alot of weaknesses but alot of positives will check Campbell out tommorow.

Away to watch the rest of Bradley vs Holt

[Losfer_Words]

someone has been watching Cobra :yep

Funilly enough I don't think I've ever seen that film; which is bad for me considering how many daft action films that I actually own:good. I've heard that quote somewhere else, though, but it must be a rip off of a line in 'Cobra' then:yep. I was thinking more-so of 'the Matrix' and Agent Smith's little speech, I think.

I can't see how Nate doesn't win. I like Bradley, he's got a no-nonsense attitude and has the skills and some bizarre training methods to go with them (chin press-ups, sparring intentionally with one eye closed et al). That said, he's been given a hell of a lot of credit for doing relatively little, IMO. I'd genuinely like him to succeed as he's a nice guy as well but Holt had him troubled at times and I personally think he'll get found out soon against better opposition. Nate Campbell is one hell of a step up in class:bbb.

[slip&counter]

Gpater, you're gonna see positives against gatekeepers like edner cherry, Holt lost that fight he was winning but just didn't finish his meal, he had it in the bag and was controling him with the jab then inexplicably stopped throwing it got sidetracked and then outworked down the stretch.

btw do you really need to watch cherry/bradley again to make an assessment? pretty simple fight to analyse, not that many intangibles we know what both guys are gonna bring.

[GPater11093]

S&C i will anaylse it to make sure im well prepared in making a decision, itll be straight forward but i might pick something up.

i saw some positives but alot of negatives vs Holt, im pretty sure i could near beat Bradley ive studied him so much.

[slip&counter]

65% have bradley winning, 20% voted via a KO :silly

[Farmboxer]

Campbell can do it if he trains very hard.

[sam1222]

Nah i'll go with bradley. i like campbell too but i dont feel we've seen the best bradley yet. what the fuck's bradley's nickname all about tho?

[slip&counter]

i'm guessing the "desert" refers to where he's from and the "storm" is meant to refer to how he fights

[hitman_hatton1]

:lol: Unfortunately it's a no even though Junior Witter is also on the card.

i said witter wouldn't even get on british tv for this fight. :patsch

["TKO"]

i'm guessing the "desert" refers to where he's from and the "storm" is meant to refer to how he fights

That's pretty much it from what I recall.

[achillesthegreat]

The campbell that fought Diaz is trouble but Bradley needs to fight he did against Holt but maybe with a little more urgency so the possibly faster man doesn't run away with it.

[slip&counter]

the word is that anthony peterson will get the winner of campbell/bradley, i've asked this before but i wonder if witter would face a beaten bradley if he wins that WBC strap? looks like he won't get a rematch unless bradley loses which is likely but by then a khan unification could be on the offering

[slip&counter]

The campbell that fought Diaz is trouble but Bradley needs to fight he did against Holt but maybe with a little more urgency so the possibly faster man doesn't run away with it.

what has me so damn confused about Bradley is that you can't put your finger on a lot of things that he absolutely does wrong...he just doesn't use it to his full advantage either. Take his footwork for example He doesn't follow a guy around the ring like say Miranda, Bradley knows how to cut it off. But once cutting off, he doesn't punctuate a proper flurry or do many things that will be effective against someone like Campbell, Take his jab, decent. But he doesn't consistently work behind it. A slickster with angles, someone who punches inbetween his slightly wide punches and knows his way on the inside beats him everytime

Holt was controlling that fight but as i said before he just didn't finish his meal and inexplicabily stopped throwing the jab which was winning him the fight, Holt gave that fight away and Bradley will have to do better then he did in that that fight against Nate, because Campbell ain't handing him the fight

[slip&counter]

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[GPater11093]

cant get any watched tonigth but tommorow hopefully ill watch some and do the article

[slip&counter]

cant get any watched tonigth but tommorow hopefully ill watch some and do the article

oh, don't keep us waiting we can't bare it, bestow us with your wisdom already :roll: :good

[GPater11093]

i know im making it sound good, i could make a half decent attempt now but i need to see more campbell really.

[555east]

the word is that anthony peterson will get the winner of campbell/bradley, i've asked this before but i wonder if witter would face a beaten bradley if he wins that WBC strap? looks like he won't get a rematch unless bradley loses which is likely but by then a khan unification could be on the offering


that would be Lamont Peterson, Anthony's brother

Anthony Peterson fights at Lightweight

his brother, Lamont fights at 140 and is the current interim WBO champion

[GPater11093]

BTW s&c i have a brillaint intro to my preview

[slip&counter]

that would be Lamont Peterson, Anthony's brother

Anthony Peterson fights at Lightweight

his brother, Lamont fights at 140 and is the current interim WBO champion

i know the petersons just got them confused, i like them, particularly anthony, they don't get flustered, they have very good heads on their shoulders, pick punches well and in variety

they don't seem to be pretty good athletically or have much pop especailly lamont, and that grunting they do really annoys me, smart fighters are gonna pick up on that because they telegraph their punches

[slip&counter]

i know im making it sound good, i could make a half decent attempt now but i need to see more campbell really.

i was being sarcastic GP, take your time

[GPater11093]

i knew you was ill get it done for Friday hopefully.

it will be good i know how each guy can win it roughly in my head

[555east]

i know the petersons just got them confused, i like them, particularly anthony, they don't get flustered, they have very good heads on their shoulders, pick punches well and in variety

they don't seem to be pretty good athletically or have much pop especailly lamont, and that grunting they do really annoys me, smart fighters are gonna pick up on that because they telegraph their punches

okay fair enough .. true Anthony has been the more impressive, I'd say that as well. and both fighters have been tearing through most opposition they have faced

right, besides the division difference, that's how The Ring differed the 2 bro's, with Lamont being the lesser of the 2 punching wise

no kidding on the grunting VERY obnoxious ... they have to cut that out

as I recall it sounding more like a "Ba Ba Ba!" if you will

[slip&counter]

555...they're sound if not spectacular, they look like fighters who'll be relevent in their late 30s while the roy jones fade, i can never understand why fighters grunt and with them its a loud "ba ba ba" as you put it :lol:. its a big deficiency as they step up in class, they have a good corner especially that tall bold guy really gives sound advice, i do feel one of them might fall by the wayside

[Farmboxer]

If Campbell comes in really good shape and thows lots of punches he can win.

[kirk]

At fucking last! I'm with you, Slip. Nate will expose the hypejob for what he is.

how in the world is bradley a freaking hype job? any hype he has he made for his damn self.... and for what he is? what is that... a young, hard working fighter trying to make a name for himself fighting the best out there?


I can see nate winning this but i hope bradley can win this... id like to see him improve his game a bit as hes still young.

["TKO"]

what has me so damn confused about Bradley is that you can't put your finger on a lot of things that he absolutely does wrong...he just doesn't use it to his full advantage either. Take his footwork for example He doesn't follow a guy around the ring like say Miranda, Bradley knows how to cut it off. But once cutting off, he doesn't punctuate a proper flurry or do many things that will be effective against someone like Campbell, Take his jab, decent. But he doesn't consistently work behind it. A slickster with angles, someone who punches inbetween his slightly wide punches and knows his way on the inside beats him everytime

Holt was controlling that fight but as i said before he just didn't finish his meal and inexplicabily stopped throwing the jab which was winning him the fight, Holt gave that fight away and Bradley will have to do better then he did in that that fight against Nate, because Campbell ain't handing him the fight

True this, if Campbell can put up the same level of performance he did with Diaz he's in with an excellent chance, but that's a BIG if bearing in mind that was a career best by quite some distance.

["TKO"]

how in the world is bradley a freaking hype job? any hype he has he made for his damn self.... and for what he is? what is that... a young, hard working fighter trying to make a name for himself fighting the best out there?


I can see nate winning this but i hope bradley can win this... id like to see him improve his game a bit as hes still young.

Agree with this, Bradley has made himself a name out of nowhere with two good wins. I do think the U.S. guys are going overboard on him but then they always do with an American guy who strings a couple of world class victories together.

[slip&counter]

True this, if Campbell can put up the same level of performance he did with Diaz he's in with an excellent chance, but that's a BIG if bearing in mind that was a career best by quite some distance.

well, the thing is campbell is better now then when he fought the likes of casamayor back then he was a relative novice and he still gave a prime casa hell and maybe should've got a draw, for me this a tougher fight for bradley then witter and holt and he's the one who has to pull a big performance out and raise his game, campbell won't do any of the things those previous opponents did

[GPater11093]

s&c been watching some more and ill tell you this will be interesting and a great gfihgt

[slip&counter]

GP, its certainly gonna be interesting, Nate's on a retirement party, young timmy better up his game because he's gonna be taken to places he ain't been before

[slip&counter]

s&c been watching some more and ill tell you this will be interesting and a great gfihgt

still watching the cherry bomb? :D

[GPater11093]

no i watched Holt vs Bradley on tuesday instead

going to wathc the cherry bomb tonight along with Campbell vs Diaz then do my article

[icemax]

Bradley is a decent fighter, but I think that the Witter win flatters him. Nate is a class act and I sincerely hope he wins, if only so he can get a decent payday

[GPater11093]

here you go lads

Bradley vs Campbell - The Changing Battle

By Greg Paterson

Saturday the 1st of August brings us a potential Fight of the Year between Timothy Bradley and Nate Campbell for the formers WBO Light Welterweight title.

In boxing there’s a famous cliché of the old, maybe even unmotivated, champion fighting the young upstart contender. Well in this fight the roles are reversed Nate Campbell is an outspoken Granddad who having giving up the Lightweight championship has moved to Light Welterweight to fight the polite and determined Timothy Bradley.

Campbell has been a perennial contender at Lightweight for what has seemed like decades and after 2 failed chances before he proved to be third time lucky in upsetting the rising star Juan Diaz in a barnburner. Nate has now tasted the success and is determined to recapture it up at Light Welterweight.

Timothy Bradley came out of nowhere to defeat the tricky and experienced WBC Light Welterweight champion Junior Witter to take his belt. Since winning this title the determined, devout Christian Bradley has defended it twice against Edner Cherry (UD over 12) and in a unification against the brilliant but lazy Kendall Holt (UD over 12). After partially unifying the championships Bradley was forced to give up his WBC title. Bradley is the rising star of the division and is one of boxing’s hottest prospects as an undefeated, young champion but so was Juan Diaz when he fought Campbell.

The style clash in this fight is an interesting one. They are both pressure fighters as well as good classic boxers. Both of them are excellent athletes in terms of speed, strength and stamina. Bradley is an aggressive pressure fighter who uses his fast hands and feet to score quick flurries. Campbell is more of a steady aggressive boxer putting on a more subtle pressure, however Campbell often fights his opponents fight instead of his own but he has shown he can beat his opponent at their own game.

Both fighters have weaknesses and strengths that counteract each other. A major factor in this fight will be who can capitalise on his opponent’s weakness and use their own strengths to their advantage. Nate Campbell thrives on fighting his opponents fight and beating him at it so perhaps Nate Campbell could play into Bradleys’ hands in doing so.

This fight, I think, will be a great one – a possible fight of the year as I mentioned before. The early rounds will start with Campbell trying to make a statement perhaps taking the fight in close quarters. Bradley often squares up when in close and this will play into Nates’hands as Bradley will be off balance and not in a position to gain leverage in his punches. Bradley however has very fast hands and could pose problems early for Campbell who will have to adjust to his speed and time him accordingly. The early rounds I feel will be fought in close with Campbell gaining the edge.

Bradley showed when he fought Kendall Holt he can adapt in fights and this is what he will have to do. The middle rounds will become more interesting as Bradley will have adjusted and will try to use his foot speed to get in and out with fast flurries. In doing so Bradley will be forced to lead and he has some major flaws when leading. He throws his jab and drops it after he’s thrown it. Campbell has a expert right hook counter uncommon to most fighters which will be able to find a home over Bradleys left hand. Bradley’s speed however should help him here and maybe just let him edge these sessions.

If you think the middle rounds will be interesting the late rounds will be fascinating. Both fighters will know each others style better and have made the necessary adjustments. I think Bradley, who has superb fitness, will try to carry the fight to Campbell who at 37 might lack the stamina of the younger fighter. However as Bradley carries a fight forward he can lack concentration and be caught with silly shots as he advances, Campbell being an old and clever pro will be more than happy to take advantage of these openings.

In the end it will come down to who can make the adjustments and perhaps who wants to make the adjustments. I feel each fighter can beat the other so it’s hard to pick a winner. This is a great fight for boxing as this is a well matched, exciting fight and a brave defence for a young champion like Bradley. As much as I would like to say the young focused Bradley to win I feel Nate Campbell will just edge it in a split decision. However that won’t be the end of Bradley as a young determined fighter like himself will not give up after a loss and will strive to be the best as he is doing now.

[slip&counter]

here you go lads

Bradley vs Campbell - The Changing Battle

By Greg Paterson

Saturday the 1st of August brings us a potential Fight of the Year between Timothy Bradley and Nate Campbell for the formers WBO Light Welterweight title.

In boxing there’s a famous cliché of the old, maybe even unmotivated, champion fighting the young upstart contender. Well in this fight the roles are reversed Nate Campbell is an outspoken Granddad who having giving up the Lightweight championship has moved to Light Welterweight to fight the polite and determined Timothy Bradley.

Campbell has been a perennial contender at Lightweight for what has seemed like decades and after 2 failed chances before he proved to be third time lucky in upsetting the rising star Juan Diaz in a barnburner. Nate has now tasted the success and is determined to recapture it up at Light Welterweight.

Timothy Bradley came out of nowhere to defeat the tricky and experienced WBC Light Welterweight champion Junior Witter to take his belt. Since winning this title the determined, devout Christian Bradley has defended it twice against Edner Cherry (UD over 12) and in a unification against the brilliant but lazy Kendall Holt (UD over 12). After partially unifying the championships Bradley was forced to give up his WBC title. Bradley is the rising star of the division and is one of boxing’s hottest prospects as an undefeated, young champion but so was Juan Diaz when he fought Campbell.

The style clash in this fight is an interesting one. They are both pressure fighters as well as good classic boxers. Both of them are excellent athletes in terms of speed, strength and stamina. Bradley is an aggressive pressure fighter who uses his fast hands and feet to score quick flurries. Campbell is more of a steady aggressive boxer putting on a more subtle pressure, however Campbell often fights his opponents fight instead of his own but he has shown he can beat his opponent at their own game.

Both fighters have weaknesses and strengths that counteract each other. A major factor in this fight will be who can capitalise on his opponent’s weakness and use their own strengths to their advantage. Nate Campbell thrives on fighting his opponents fight and beating him at it so perhaps Nate Campbell could play into Bradleys’ hands in doing so.

This fight, I think, will be a great one – a possible fight of the year as I mentioned before. The early rounds will start with Campbell trying to make a statement perhaps taking the fight in close quarters. Bradley often squares up when in close and this will play into Nates’hands as Bradley will be off balance and not in a position to gain leverage in his punches. Bradley however has very fast hands and could pose problems early for Campbell who will have to adjust to his speed and time him accordingly. The early rounds I feel will be fought in close with Campbell gaining the edge.

Bradley showed when he fought Kendall Holt he can adapt in fights and this is what he will have to do. The middle rounds will become more interesting as Bradley will have adjusted and will try to use his foot speed to get in and out with fast flurries. In doing so Bradley will be forced to lead and he has some major flaws when leading. He throws his jab and drops it after he’s thrown it. Campbell has a expert right hook counter uncommon to most fighters which will be able to find a home over Bradleys left hand. Bradley’s speed however should help him here and maybe just let him edge these sessions.

If you think the middle rounds will be interesting the late rounds will be fascinating. Both fighters will know each others style better and have made the necessary adjustments. I think Bradley, who has superb fitness, will try to carry the fight to Campbell who at 37 might lack the stamina of the younger fighter. However as Bradley carries a fight forward he can lack concentration and be caught with silly shots as he advances, Campbell being an old and clever pro will be more than happy to take advantage of these openings.

In the end it will come down to who can make the adjustments and perhaps who wants to make the adjustments. I feel each fighter can beat the other so it’s hard to pick a winner. This is a great fight for boxing as this is a well matched, exciting fight and a brave defence for a young champion like Bradley. As much as I would like to say the young focused Bradley to win I feel Nate Campbell will just edge it in a split decision. However that won’t be the end of Bradley as a young determined fighter like himself will not give up after a loss and will strive to be the best as he is doing now.

nice :good

but when did bradley become a "boxer" all of a sudden? the major disadvantage for Bradley is his ineptitude on the inside and campbell's mastery, it would be good for Bradley to go "in and out" and flurry, it would be good for him to box at range but unfortunetly he has the circle of a battleship and its against his instincts plus he hasn't a legit jab, the footwork nor finesse to maintain distance to keep campbell at long range for long periods of the fight meaning it'll be pretty easy for campbell to do what he wants and this is where the fight runs away from Bradley.

What he needs to do is keep campbell moving because Nate likes to punch from a stable planform and also Bradley must not exchange in prolonged stints in the pocket. I can see Bradley starting well mixing it up and maybe dominating the first couple of rounds, the problem is as the fight moves on Bradley starts to have a more predictable punching pattern, creating counter opportunities for Campbell.

I can see Campbell imposing himself and controling the pace of the fight after the early rounds, Campbell then banking rounds with Bradley taking the odd one here and there, i can see a situation where Bradley maybe needs to pull out something big in the latter rounds but the crafty veteran holding on for the decision.

[Farmboxer]

Campbell has the ability to beat Bradley.

[GPater11093]

nice :good

but when did bradley become a "boxer" all of a sudden? the major disadvantage for Bradley is his ineptitude on the inside and campbell's mastery, it would be good for Bradley to go "in and out" and flurry, it would be good for him to box at range but unfortunetly he has the circle of a battleship and its against his instincts plus he hasn't a legit jab, the footwork nor finesse to maintain distance to keep campbell at long range for long periods of the fight meaning it'll be pretty easy for campbell to do what he wants and this is where the fight runs away from Bradley.

What he needs to do is keep campbell moving because Nate likes to punch from a stable planform and also Bradley must not exchange in prolonged stints in the pocket. I can see Bradley starting well mixing it up and maybe dominating the first couple of rounds, the problem is as the fight moves on Bradley starts to have a more predictable punching pattern, creating counter opportunities for Campbell.

I can see Campbell imposing himself and controling the pace of the fight after the early rounds, Campbell then banking rounds with Bradley taking the odd one here and there, i can see a situation where Bradley maybe needs to pull out something big in the latter rounds but the crafty veteran holding on for the decision.

excellant points also. I did this article (finished it at) at 2 in the morning so some bits is off.

I see a similar situation as you but a closer fight

[slip&counter]

excellant points also. I did this article (finished it at) at 2 in the morning so some bits is off.

I see a similar situation as you but a closer fight

we haven't done to well in trying to convince others on here most are going for Bradley (69%)

[slip&counter]

Campbell has the ability to beat Bradley.

thank you for your exellent analyse....:nut

you've said that and vice versa about a 100 times and do you ever right more then one line?

[GPater11093]

S&C we will be proved right or wrong soon

im cheering on Bradley however

[kosaros]

Hahahahahahahahaha. :lol:

['Ben']

Check out my predictions.:yep:hey

[djoc175]

Bit harsh David

[crespo21]

hahahahahahahahaha. :lol:

+1 :)

[djoc175]

delete

[slip&counter]

what a BS night :-(

this might force me into retirement

[Mandanda]

what a BS night :-(

this might force me into retirement

I was looking forward to it tonight.....it looked to me as though Bradley was on it from get go...maybe Nate could of eased way back into fight like he's done before. It's a shame the fight ended like that because it was hotting up to be a classic battle.

Keep them ''I'm Convinced'' threads coming.

[TFFP]

I was looking forward to it tonight.....it looked to me as though Bradley was on it from get go...maybe Nate could of eased way back into fight like he's done before. It's a shame the fight ended like that because it was hotting up to be a classic battle.

Keep them ''I'm Convinced'' threads coming.
Indeed. It could prove quite useful, we'll take into account your analysis and lump on the other dude :good

[GazOC]

what a BS night :-(

this might force me into retirement


Chin up mate!!!:lol::good

[Mandanda]

Indeed. It could prove quite useful, we'll take into account your analysis and lump on the other dude :good
:lol:

To be fair to slip he did make some valid points and actually his thread got me amped for this fight i had a look at both guys and i saw alot of what he was seeing but i didn't know who to call.

Bradley is going from strength to strength and growing into being a champion.

[TFFP]

I'm only kidding. Everyone gets em wrong, I'm not having an especially good year compared to last where I was ESB champion!! :p:p

[kosaros]

Bit harsh David

Fuck off, I seen your original post with the dancing banana's and other stuff! :lol:

Anyway, to the thread starter, just a little joke - eveyone gets them wrong sometimes (I picked Witter by TKO), didn't mean anything by it :good

[djoc175]

Fuck off, I seen your original post with the dancing banana's and other stuff! :lol:

Anyway, to the thread starter, just a little joke - eveyone gets them wrong sometimes (I picked Witter by TKO), didn't mean anything by it :good
:lol:Yes and I saw that it was harsh-not like the TS was picking one guy just to shit on the other
:good

[djoc175]

It could be worse,the TS could have had a Witter avatar!

[Mandanda]

I'm only kidding. Everyone gets em wrong, I'm not having an especially good year compared to last where I was ESB champion!! :p:p

:lol:
Nor am i mate nor am i.

Thats why i didn't really pick anyone for tonight. I leave guys like Slip to lay themselves on the line while i sit back and watch it unfold :D

[kosaros]

It could be worse,the TS could have had a Witter avatar!

Yes..................:patsch

[djoc175]

Yes..................:patsch
:lol:

:bananamaniac:bananamaniac
:bananamaniac:bananamaniac
:bananamaniac:bananamaniac

BTW,big improvement:good

[kosaros]

:lol:

:bananamaniac:bananamaniac
:bananamaniac:bananamaniac
:bananamaniac:bananamaniac

BTW,big improvement:good

Yep, I had my back-up plan all set up :yep:good

[slip&counter]

I was looking forward to it tonight.....it looked to me as though Bradley was on it from get go...maybe Nate could of eased way back into fight like he's done before. It's a shame the fight ended like that because it was hotting up to be a classic battle.

Keep them ''I'm Convinced'' threads coming.

fuck it, off course i'll keep them coming :bbb i'll always go out on a limb, like the other dude said though just make sure you put everything on the other fighter :yep

i started it with the khan/kotelnik card and got almost everything right, swings in roundabouts i guess :good

[slip&counter]

how bad do i feel right now....

Nate didn't follow the protocol of letting the ref first assess and then getting the doctor on the apron. Once the doctor comes, you start claiming that you can only see 7 foot penguins in August and when the doc holds up two fingers, you say ELEVEN! No way this is getting turned into a no contest like Rahman got for Toney II.

Oh well Nate, I never claimed your boxing IQ and awareness of your surroundings was that great to begin with.

[Farmboxer]

Yeah but Bradley had his venue, his judges and esp. his damned wino referee!

[GPater11093]

well lads i was wrong heres my review


Bradley vs Campbell – The Aftermath, The Controversy and the Cut
By Greg Paterson

What a fight this was going to be! I had it a physical battle of wills and skills to determine supremacy between the two proud warriors Timothy Bradley and Nate Campbell, how wrong was I?

Campbell came to the ring with the same detached look he always wears for fights, the sound of ‘Thunder’ by AC/DC boomed round the arena in tribute of Arturo Gatti. In contrast Bradley came into the ring with a live rapper rapping his stuff in the ring as Bradley focused himself and sang along on the way to the ring.

In the ring Bradley looked so focus, I thought he was possessed; Campbell had that same detached look as if Bradley didn’t even bother him. The fighters were announced still they never waivered in there own confidence.

The start of round 1 Campbell came out to the centre of the ring as I anticipated but that’s where my prediction of the fight ceased to be correct. Campbell tried to put pressure on Bradley and got him into the corner in the first 30 seconds; Bradley turned Nate in the corner and landed a flurry, brilliant stuff by the young champion. Campbell still trudged forward trying to cut off the and get Bradley on the inside where Nate could fight him. Bradley turned Nate and landed flurries ,with good body shots mixed, in the entire first round in a great show of ring generalship – which I admit I thought Campbell would have the edge here. Campbell’s only success in this round was when he side stepped to his right and bulled Bradley backwards onto the ropes where Campbell landed a straight right to the body and a left hook. There was a lot of holding up close by both fighters and 1 or 2 slight head clashes but that was anticipated. Bradleys’ round.

Round 2 had much the same sort of feel as round 1. Bradley seemed to control the ring and Campbell just couldn’t corner him and when he did he seemed slow to let his shots off, like his reflexes had diminished greatly since the Funeka fight. Bradley this round started to fight up close whenever they ended up there and was getting the better of Campbell. Again my prediction was coming to be portrayed as horribly wrong. Again a few more head clashes and Campbell complained to the referee about them. Bradleys’ round.

The 3rd round started off the same Bradley controlling the fight using the ring and boxing with flurries. About half way through the round Campbell went against the ropes and Bradley came along the rope towards him, as he did so he threw a flurry, in the middle of the flurry Bradleys head recklessly came flying towards Campbell and hit him above his right eye. Campbell ducked his head as he stepped back as Bradley threw a left and a right uppercut which seemed to have hit Campbell’s gloves. As Campbell stepped out of Bradleys’ range he pointed to his eye to show the referee he had been cut by a clash of heads. As Campbell was protesting to the referee Bradley (rightly) unleashed a barrage of punches all over Campbell for a good 20 seconds. Campbell weathered the storm well but his eye was obviously bothering him. Bradleys hellacious attack rescinded for a moment as Campbell got out of the corner but that was only a momentary respite as Bradley unleashed another flurry of shots but again Campbell weathered them well for 30 odd seconds before getting close enough to hold and Bradley obliged to hold to get his wind back. After the referee broke them apart Bradley flurried for the remaining 10 or so seconds, then the bell rang.

As Campbell walked back to his corner he told his cornermen, ‘I can’t see!’. The corner sat him down but he persisted saying he couldn’t see. Soon the doctor was in the corner and again Campbell said ‘I Can’t see!’ The doctor then asked him if he wanted to continue and I couldn’t make out Campbell’s answer but a few seconds later the referee stated ‘If you can’t see, I will have to stop the fight.’ And he did exactly what he said he would by stopping the fight at that moment.

Watching it live I hadn’t noticed the head butt by Bradley that caused the cut so when the ref called it a TKO win ,on cuts, for Bradley I thought it was deserved as you should always give the benefit of the doubt that a punch caused a cut and not a head clash. However after seeing the replay I saw the sickening accidental clash and knew instantly this should be a No-Contest as per the rules.

The referee in the ring exclaimed to the Showtime presenter, ‘I saw the headbutt but I saw a punch after it and I’m going on what I saw last.’ Now I thought the referee could have ruled this as a TKO if he hadn’t seen the headbutt like myself but he had claimed to have seen the headbutt but still called it a clash of heads. This astounds me. This is why I propose there should be an extra official who has the benefit of ‘play back TV’ to view such instances and make the call himself instead of the referee, as incidents’ like this would be avoided.

Campbell was fuming at this decision and directly questioned the referee and was shouting abuse around the ring. This to me is not the behaviour I like to see in the ring, if Campbell had an issue he could have gone about it in a more appropriate way. However, saying that Campbell is a likeable guy and he said himself ‘I have never questioned decisions going against me before but this is about right and wrong.’ And he did have a point that he hadn’t complained about decisions before and maybe this was a moment of madness (but deserved) for him.

The Showtime presenter asked Bradley what he thought of it all. Bradley was quite diplomatic saying ‘he did feel a headbutt but he just did his job.’ And he ‘didn’t know’ if a headbutt caused the cut. The presenter then asked Campbell and Don King what they thought but the protested the stoppage and said it should have been a NC. After this Campbell claimed he still couldn’t see right and left to go to hospital. At this moment the Showtime presenter then enquired about a rematch. Don King was delighted at the idea but Bradleys camp was quite evasive of the question and responded, ‘If Showtime want to buy the fight and the money is right.’ Which they repeated several times. Bradley himself however conceded, ‘He didn’t care’ who he fought next and even alluded to a rematch with Campbell in Campbell’s hometown. This delighted Don King and led to a hilarious situation between Bradley’s trainer Joel Diaz and Don King.

I will leave you with the only correct prediction I found by OnTheGrinds Suge Green who predicted ‘Controversy.’

[slip&counter]

well lads i was wrong heres my review


Bradley vs Campbell – The Aftermath, The Controversy and the Cut
By Greg Paterson

What a fight this was going to be! I had it a physical battle of wills and skills to determine supremacy between the two proud warriors Timothy Bradley and Nate Campbell, how wrong was I?

Campbell came to the ring with the same detached look he always wears for fights, the sound of ‘Thunder’ by AC/DC boomed round the arena in tribute of Arturo Gatti. In contrast Bradley came into the ring with a live rapper rapping his stuff in the ring as Bradley focused himself and sang along on the way to the ring.

In the ring Bradley looked so focus, I thought he was possessed; Campbell had that same detached look as if Bradley didn’t even bother him. The fighters were announced still they never waivered in there own confidence.

The start of round 1 Campbell came out to the centre of the ring as I anticipated but that’s where my prediction of the fight ceased to be correct. Campbell tried to put pressure on Bradley and got him into the corner in the first 30 seconds; Bradley turned Nate in the corner and landed a flurry, brilliant stuff by the young champion. Campbell still trudged forward trying to cut off the and get Bradley on the inside where Nate could fight him. Bradley turned Nate and landed flurries ,with good body shots mixed, in the entire first round in a great show of ring generalship – which I admit I thought Campbell would have the edge here. Campbell’s only success in this round was when he side stepped to his right and bulled Bradley backwards onto the ropes where Campbell landed a straight right to the body and a left hook. There was a lot of holding up close by both fighters and 1 or 2 slight head clashes but that was anticipated. Bradleys’ round.

Round 2 had much the same sort of feel as round 1. Bradley seemed to control the ring and Campbell just couldn’t corner him and when he did he seemed slow to let his shots off, like his reflexes had diminished greatly since the Funeka fight. Bradley this round started to fight up close whenever they ended up there and was getting the better of Campbell. Again my prediction was coming to be portrayed as horribly wrong. Again a few more head clashes and Campbell complained to the referee about them. Bradleys’ round.

The 3rd round started off the same Bradley controlling the fight using the ring and boxing with flurries. About half way through the round Campbell went against the ropes and Bradley came along the rope towards him, as he did so he threw a flurry, in the middle of the flurry Bradleys head recklessly came flying towards Campbell and hit him above his right eye. Campbell ducked his head as he stepped back as Bradley threw a left and a right uppercut which seemed to have hit Campbell’s gloves. As Campbell stepped out of Bradleys’ range he pointed to his eye to show the referee he had been cut by a clash of heads. As Campbell was protesting to the referee Bradley (rightly) unleashed a barrage of punches all over Campbell for a good 20 seconds. Campbell weathered the storm well but his eye was obviously bothering him. Bradleys hellacious attack rescinded for a moment as Campbell got out of the corner but that was only a momentary respite as Bradley unleashed another flurry of shots but again Campbell weathered them well for 30 odd seconds before getting close enough to hold and Bradley obliged to hold to get his wind back. After the referee broke them apart Bradley flurried for the remaining 10 or so seconds, then the bell rang.

As Campbell walked back to his corner he told his cornermen, ‘I can’t see!’. The corner sat him down but he persisted saying he couldn’t see. Soon the doctor was in the corner and again Campbell said ‘I Can’t see!’ The doctor then asked him if he wanted to continue and I couldn’t make out Campbell’s answer but a few seconds later the referee stated ‘If you can’t see, I will have to stop the fight.’ And he did exactly what he said he would by stopping the fight at that moment.

Watching it live I hadn’t noticed the head butt by Bradley that caused the cut so when the ref called it a TKO win ,on cuts, for Bradley I thought it was deserved as you should always give the benefit of the doubt that a punch caused a cut and not a head clash. However after seeing the replay I saw the sickening accidental clash and knew instantly this should be a No-Contest as per the rules.

The referee in the ring exclaimed to the Showtime presenter, ‘I saw the headbutt but I saw a punch after it and I’m going on what I saw last.’ Now I thought the referee could have ruled this as a TKO if he hadn’t seen the headbutt like myself but he had claimed to have seen the headbutt but still called it a clash of heads. This astounds me. This is why I propose there should be an extra official who has the benefit of ‘play back TV’ to view such instances and make the call himself instead of the referee, as incidents’ like this would be avoided.

Campbell was fuming at this decision and directly questioned the referee and was shouting abuse around the ring. This to me is not the behaviour I like to see in the ring, if Campbell had an issue he could have gone about it in a more appropriate way. However, saying that Campbell is a likeable guy and he said himself ‘I have never questioned decisions going against me before but this is about right and wrong.’ And he did have a point that he hadn’t complained about decisions before and maybe this was a moment of madness (but deserved) for him.

The Showtime presenter asked Bradley what he thought of it all. Bradley was quite diplomatic saying ‘he did feel a headbutt but he just did his job.’ And he ‘didn’t know’ if a headbutt caused the cut. The presenter then asked Campbell and Don King what they thought but the protested the stoppage and said it should have been a NC. After this Campbell claimed he still couldn’t see right and left to go to hospital. At this moment the Showtime presenter then enquired about a rematch. Don King was delighted at the idea but Bradleys camp was quite evasive of the question and responded, ‘If Showtime want to buy the fight and the money is right.’ Which they repeated several times. Bradley himself however conceded, ‘He didn’t care’ who he fought next and even alluded to a rematch with Campbell in Campbell’s hometown. This delighted Don King and led to a hilarious situation between Bradley’s trainer Joel Diaz and Don King.

I will leave you with the only correct prediction I found by OnTheGrinds Suge Green who predicted ‘Controversy.’


good stuff, GP :good

I'm so damn frustrated with Nate. You'll probably recall how critical I've been of him in the past but after the "heart" he showed vs. that freak of a beast in Funeka, I've been on Team Nate and wanted to see him shine in the twilight of his career.

And then tonight happens - oh well, I still think Nate's got some fight left in him. Maybe 2 or 3 more fights before he wears suits for Showtime or HBO.

[GPater11093]

s&c you did know Nate had bleeding behind the eye?

[slip&counter]

s&c you did know Nate had bleeding behind the eye?

yeah i do but and i'm not ripping him for thinking safety first and living to fight another day but i was talking about the way he did it, Campbell knows better then that! he should've waited for the doc instead of hesitating. This was an easy no contest and he had a chance to parlay his purse on a mandated rematch but he pulled some bullshit and didn't let things play out. shame

i thought 140 would benefit him but its had the adverse effect, he went up because he was forced to and he didn't seem to have trained like he did at 135 all the weight just went on his waist

[GPater11093]

s&c im glad he pulled out or taht coulda been the end of his career and sight.

It was obviously bad though before he was complaining that much, and i do think a rematch is in order

Don King and Bradleys trainer will hilarious together, they should do a stand up show

[hitman_hatton1]

bradley was on the way to a comfortable win.

surprised anyone thought campbell would win this one.

he's always been really hit and miss. :yep