Karmichael Hunt. a meathead trying to become a sophisticate [Archive]

sallywinder

07-29-2009, 03:18 AM

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Brisbane Broncos rugby league star Karmichael Hunt is switching codes to play Australian rules after joining the Gold Coast Football Club, which joins the AFL competition in 2011.

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fair dinkum. this bloke is a meathead, even in league!!! he runs like a kamakazi, has little talent, and relies totally on toughness. while i recon there are some league players that could do ok in afl, this meathead is not one of them!!!!

TheDuke

07-29-2009, 03:50 AM

Well the God of AFL seems retarded to me, so he'll be in good company

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 03:54 AM

The lengths some teams will to go to beat Collingwood...

T.C.W

07-29-2009, 03:54 AM

When I heard this I was just amazed, Well HE is a clown now, I don't watch the game, so have fun.

boxoncottonon

07-29-2009, 03:56 AM

sallywinder

07-29-2009, 04:00 AM

T.C.W

07-29-2009, 04:01 AM

This might be a surprise to low brow knuckle dragging NRL supporters but to sophisticated AFL followers we expect this.
After all AFL is the most popular of the 2 codes by a margin of almost double when it comes to attendence and tv viewers.
Why would you not try your hand in the most celebrated ball sport in the country.

Good luck to Hunt and all of the other League players who decide to swap to the ultimate football code in the counrty!not is QLD mate or NSW they shit tv viewers numbers, compaired to league, league beats ALF on saturday night in QLD and NSW and it is on Pay TV and AFL is on free to air.

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 04:04 AM

I'm not surprised NRL beats repeats of ALF on Saturdays.

Francis75

07-29-2009, 04:04 AM

What sort of money will he earn when he is completely unproven at the sport. It's not like league to union where there are obvious similarities. Maybe he played the sport as a kid but that is a long long way short of the AFL.

sallywinder

07-29-2009, 04:04 AM

this thread should be about appreciating what it takes to make it in either code.....not about nrl or vfl bashing...

im sure vfl has some fancy pants players that would get murdered in league, and also have some so called tough cunts that think they can make in league and get smashed...barry hall being one of them.

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boxoncottonon

07-29-2009, 04:11 AM

im sure vfl has some fancy pants players that would get murdered in league, and also have some so called tough cunts that think they can make in league and get smashed....

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Weird comment!
Why would an AFL player even consider such a backwards step in thier sporting careers?

sallywinder

07-29-2009, 04:15 AM

Weird comment!
Why would an AFL player even consider such a backwards step in thier sporting careers?

they wouldnt. they are all cowardly gutless cunts with a big streak of yellow down their backs...

big, tall, easy to snap cunts is what AFL players are....

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T.C.W

07-29-2009, 04:19 AM

I just heard he is getting 1 million a year for 3 years. for game he has never played before and he is not even the best player in the comp, it just fucken amazes me.

MiracleMan

07-29-2009, 04:21 AM

I just heard he is getting 1 million a year for 3 years. for game he has never played before and he is not even the best player in the comp, it just fucken amazes me.

He will bring in another 5000 people through the gates easy possibly per game. Cross code switches bring a lot of publicity. Don't write him off. We wrote someone elses cross code switch off.

boxoncottonon

07-29-2009, 04:23 AM

not is QLD mate or NSW they shit tv viewers numbers, compaired to league, league beats ALF on saturday night in QLD and NSW and it is on Pay TV and AFL is on free to air.

We all know most of Queensland and NWS viewers are are cave dwelling neanderthols and find gruntning men with large thy's appealing but the rest of the country find AFL much more pleasent to the eye via TV and are able to get to the game more often than the tracksiut wearing fat slobs hovelling around thier TV sets in NSW and Queensland.

T.C.W

07-29-2009, 04:33 AM

We all know most of Queensland and NWS viewers are are cave dwelling neanderthols and find gruntning men with large thy's appealing but the rest of the country find AFL much more pleasent to the eye via TV and are able to get to the game more often than the tracksiut wearing fat slobs hovelling around thier TV sets in NSW and Queensland.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

thejokerswild

07-29-2009, 04:49 AM

This might be a surprise to low brow knuckle dragging NRL supporters but to sophisticated AFL followers we expect this.
After all AFL is the most popular of the 2 codes by a margin of almost double when it comes to attendence and tv viewers.
Why would you not try your hand in the most celebrated ball sport in the country.

Good luck to Hunt and all of the other League players who decide to swap to the ultimate football code in the counrty!

I would love to punch you in the spleen. and by punch I don't mean that nancy boy shirt grabbing name calling shit you skirts do in that poor excuse for a sport.

This is good news for us Blues supporters.:happy Good ridince!

BoppaZoo

07-29-2009, 04:51 AM

I think he has a chance to make it.

Theres how many Irish players that have tranformed into AFL players.

Plus i think most are forgetting as a youngster he was scouted by the AFL as he played both codes.
He will get payed more so i can blame him and i think he felt there wasnt much chance of him getting back in the Aussie squad and really he didnt have much more to prove as a League player.

I know a lot fellas in here are just League fans but i can see him doing ok.
There was a bloke from my town that had played junior Volleyball for Australia. They put him in a Aussie Rules jumper for two years as a junior and he was drafted by StKilda.

The game has changed in AFL. Today you need talent, speed and Stamina.

Thats about it. Dean Brogan that plays for Port Adelaide won a NBL title with the 36ers and then they put as a Ruckman and look at him today. Making a heap more cash.

I'd like to know his contract with Brisbane if he accepted 1 mill over 3 years.

It means he was probably getting 100 to 150k less a year playing his preferred game.

I love both codes but fellas league is a danger unless they do something and fast.

TheDuke

07-29-2009, 05:02 AM

I love both codes but fellas league is a danger unless they do something and fast.

I disagree. It's said all the time, but all statistics point to this not being the case. It's just a constant media bash-a-thon with league.

League has continued to get stronger over the last few years and will hold QLD and NSW for many years to come.

pecks

07-29-2009, 05:56 AM

I'd like to know his contract with Brisbane if he accepted 1 mill over 3 years.

I heard he recently turned down a $300,000 per year deal with the Bronco's.

It's going to be a tough transition as both sports have very little in common with another. If he can't kick the ball on the run, and during play, then he's fucked. Aside from that, he'll have to learn to do a crank up his stamina, as he'll be doing a lot more running, and a lot of it will be in sudden spurts.

1 million a year for 3 years?! Wow. Thats just crazy.

Still, I hope he goes well, but I have my douts that he'll make it. I heard earlier on that he's only played the game at schoolboy level. Are you sure he was being scouted by the AFL earlier on Boppa?

I've also heard that he's become disillusioned with league, and apart from doing video sessions at training, he'll never even watch it.

A ballsy challenge, and I hope it goes well for him.

T.C.W

07-29-2009, 06:04 AM

I hope Hunt breaks his leg the first games.

pecks

07-29-2009, 06:07 AM

I disagree. It's said all the time, but all statistics point to this not being the case. It's just a constant media bash-a-thon with league.

League has continued to get stronger over the last few years and will hold QLD and NSW for many years to come.
It's a tough one. No doubt the large exodus of players over the years is a concern, but if the salary cap increases teams just wont be able to stay afloat.
Players have found out that theres more options out there (UK league, European Rugby, Japanese rugby, and in this case, AFL).

In some cases, players leave the NRL to simply take up another challenge, but in most cases, it's for the money. To put it simply, there needs to be more money going around in league in order for clubs to be able to handle a salary cap increase.

Still, all thats probably exempt in this case as Karmichael was apparently losing interest in league.

pecks

07-29-2009, 06:12 AM

After all AFL is the most popular of the 2 codes by a margin of almost double when it comes to attendence and tv
Just to fill you in, the NRL is not a code, it's a competition. Rugby League is the name of the sport, and although the AFL is more supported than the NRL, theres probably more people in the world who care more about league than Aussie Rules.

Although the league World Cup was a bit of a joke, the game is still played internationally, and gets well supported over in England.

Dojo

07-29-2009, 07:59 AM

Just to fill you in, the NRL is not a code, it's a competition. Rugby League is the name of the sport, and although the AFL is more supported than the NRL, theres probably more people in the world who care more about league than Aussie Rules.

Although the league World Cup was a bit of a joke, the game is still played internationally, and gets well supported over in England.

The NRL and Super League crowd averages combined, are still around 12,000 short of an average AFL crowd, so that could be debated.

pecks

07-29-2009, 08:37 AM

The NRL and Super League crowd averages combined, are still around 12,000 short of an average AFL crowd, so that could be debated.The NRL crowds are poor, but the tv ratings are more comparable to AFL's.
Theres a lot of 'stay at home fans' in the NRL, or perhaps it's just a NSW thing seeing as how Sydney FC fail to draw in big crowds, even when they won the league they still struggled to bring in crowds.

I just think that worldwide theres more people either playing league or supporting it than there is with Aussie Rules.

I'm not trying to have a bash at AFL. I understand it's a comp thats supported a lot, and had I have been born in Melbourne with my parents drumming it into me when I was little, I'd probably be supporting it very passionately.
I also played it during PE in high school and it was a very fun game to play.

I'm not the kind of person who can just pick a team and support them very passionately, I need some kind of link to them or something.
I'm a massive football (soccer) fan yet can't really get up for Sydney FC in the A-League as much as I'd like to. It just kinda feels weird.

boxoncottonon

07-29-2009, 09:10 AM

Just to fill you in, the NRL is not a code, it's a competition.

Pecks...Soccer, Union, Aussie Rules & League are all called football, go figure.
Using the term code is a figure of speach widley used when mentioning any of football brands in sentence, paragraph or entire article....its not an insult.....dont take as one.

I went to see the Storm beat the Rabitohs at Challenge Stadium here in Perth a month back....how is it WA can pull a crowd of 20,000 and where it is revered an average turn out is approximatley 17,000 per game year round? That is 20,000 less than the AFL average (38,000 as in [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])) per game year round!
What is it with QLD's & NSW's supporters not getting out to support thier teams...??

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by pecks
If he can't kick the ball on the run, and during play, then he's fucked.

I don't know, it never stopped James Manson.

(One for the Melbourne people.)

ranser

07-29-2009, 11:30 AM

The NRL has a real battle on its hands.They are losing players at a rate of knots.They better do something about it real quick , otherwise this problem is going to spiral out of control, and in the end there will be no NRL. Also the quality of the game is being eroded due to the mass exodus of talented players.

thejokerswild

07-29-2009, 12:32 PM

Come on Thurston, take that cake. I dare you ;)

Hmmm

07-29-2009, 12:47 PM

I just heard he is getting 1 million a year for 3 years. for game he has never played before and he is not even the best player in the comp, it just fucken amazes me.

:patsch

Given the total AFL team salary cap is around 9mil, I think you pulled that figure out of your arse or the rest of the team is getting paid in favours...

(18 players on field, 4 interchangers, reserves etc...)

sallywinder

07-29-2009, 06:51 PM

The NRL and Super League crowd averages combined, are still around 12,000 short of an average AFL crowd, so that could be debated.

we all know victorians have a herd mentality. like cattle, when they see a line forming, they join it. when the line moves, they move with it.

the only reason they form such big crowds is that they lack individual thought. so how does that qualify them as a judge of any sport?

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goodnight

07-29-2009, 07:08 PM

he could play til he's fifty in AFL.

Any sport where you get a point for missing is a celebration of mediocrity...

Its like a sport for kiddies, "oh great kick little timmy, you missed the goal but we'll give you a point for trying"

rugby union internationals own anyway...

CarltonBlues

07-29-2009, 08:34 PM

More money, better sport and he doesn't have to stick his head up another bloke's bum. Win Win Win

goodnight

07-29-2009, 08:46 PM

More money, better sport and he doesn't have to stick his head up another bloke's bum. Win Win Win

more money? elite union/league players have the capacity to earn a lot more than any AFL player ever could on the world stage because other countries actually play these sports...

p.s. if you can't represent your country its not a sport.

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 08:47 PM

So pro boxings not a sport?

goodnight

07-29-2009, 09:45 PM

So pro boxings not a sport?

referring to football codes, not a boxing thread.

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 09:46 PM

So what about the International Rules series vs Ireland?

T.C.W

07-29-2009, 10:05 PM

:patsch

Given the total AFL team salary cap is around 9mil, I think you pulled that figure out of your arse or the rest of the team is getting paid in favours...

(18 players on field, 4 interchangers, reserves etc...)you wrong mate, the new Gold Coast side has cap consessions because there a new side, To get players to join them and hunt comes under this, look AFL will do anything to get at league, They won't to destroy the sport in AUstralia, the quicker NRL publicly say this and tell the People of QLD and NSW the better and they can start doing things about it and deleiver a message to AFL and victorian's.

goodnight

07-29-2009, 10:43 PM

So what about the International Rules series vs Ireland?

is that AFL?

LeonMcS

07-29-2009, 11:09 PM

Sorta kinda mostly almost.

pecks

07-29-2009, 11:40 PM

I went to see the Storm beat the Rabitohs at Challenge Stadium here in Perth a month back....how is it WA can pull a crowd of 20,000 and where it is revered an average turn out is approximatley 17,000 per game year round? That is 20,000 less than the AFL average (38,000 as in [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])) per game year round!
What is it with QLD's & NSW's supporters not getting out to support thier teams...??Heh, I don't really know mate. Brisbane get fairly good crowds, they usually average between 25 - 35 thousand per game. Melbourne Storm should really be getting a lot more crowds, they've pretty much had a winning team from the word go, but the locals are just struggling to embrace league, though they do turn up to the events, like state of origin, etc.

As for Sydney, well I know for a fact that Souths have a very big fan base. 80,000 people marched in Sydney to protest their expulsion back in 1999. Unfortunately many of those people fail to get to the games week in, week out. I myself would fall into that category.
When I first moved to Sydney I used to go to all the home games, but later on I only really went to Sunday games, as I didn't like going to the Sat night games before I went to work.

The bottom line is that the AFL has a more passionate supporter base, and is more national than league is. It's also run by better officials too. League has really dropped the ball in the last 20 years, and many people just don't give a shit anymore.

fast hands

07-29-2009, 11:55 PM

The great thing about the posts on ESB is their fairmindedness & lack of bias.
Karmichael Hunt is a very good rugby league player giving 1oo% effort every game. A tough durable , courageous 80 minute player. Not like some of the half a game prima donnas going around at the moment.

Will he succeed at AFL ? No doubt about it.

Favourite current players. Steve Price
Preston Campbell
Jonnathan Thurston
Scott Prince
Greg Ingliss

Sound like a northerner ? You betcha !

BoppaZoo

07-30-2009, 01:04 AM

:patsch

Given the total AFL team salary cap is around 9mil, I think you pulled that figure out of your arse or the rest of the team is getting paid in favours...

(18 players on field, 4 interchangers, reserves etc...)No its true thats what has been going around.

1 Million over 3 years. You really have no clue about how much money the Gold Coast outfit will be able to throw around.

Just think they targeted Gary Ablett Jr aswell as Nick Reiwoldt. But came up empty. They will have money to splash.

Here are some numbers.
Hunt making $333,000 a year is not that big of deal.

310 players in the AFL make between $100,000 to $300,000 a Year.

There are only 28 players in the League that make over $500,000 and 2 of them make 1 million dollars a year. Those being Chris Judd and Jonathon Brown.

$330,000 is nothing really.

TheDuke

07-30-2009, 01:11 AM

Boppa it's suppose to be $3 million over 3 years

BoppaZoo

07-30-2009, 01:19 AM

Boppa it's suppose to be $3 million over 3 yearsThere you go it could be that. Because when a new team comes into the league they dont have a salary cap.

Theres a article here in the cuorier mail that says his contract is exempt from the salary cap.

So if it is 3 mill over 3 years who could blame him. I know he had a session with Nathan Buckley to see if he would be good enough and Hunt passed it.

So he will get a million dollars for playing AFL.

Were the Broncos offered him a $300,000 a year and you said the game isnt in trouble from other codes.

I bet allover QLD and NSW parents are thinking why should i sign my son up to play League which is more physical on the body. There image isnt great lately.

If league doesnt need to pull there finger out. Mate you are blind to what im seeing then.

I have kids why sign my kid up to play Rugby or even AFL when they are safer playing soccer.

Even so 1 million a year for a guy that hasnt really played at any type of level except junior football.

Thats alot of money.

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TheDuke

07-30-2009, 01:25 AM

BoppaZoo

07-30-2009, 01:32 AM

I know it's crazy money there will be a few AFL players with their noses out of joint I would think

I know I am a staunch league fan but I don't think I'm being optimistic by saying that the game is firmly entrenched in NSW and QLD.

I do agree the game as a whole could be better managed. It's very profitable but the problem is half that profit has to go to News Ltd instead of back into the game.To me its sounds like the Teams dont benefit from any TV money.

Unlike the AFL were they get there fair share.

Mate i follow both games. And enjoy both so to the League fans are saying oh he cant make it he has no chance. Good luck to him blah blah blah.

But tell that to the many Irish fella's that come over from Gealic Footy.
Now if it was you in Hunt's shoes and you were offered say $300,000 a years for the club you have done everything with.

Or you were offered 1 million for a game you never have played but there wont be a huge amount of pressure on you in your first year of Football because you are playing VFL.

Mate its a easy decision.

TheDuke

07-30-2009, 02:28 AM

O' Hailpin actually played hurling at the highest level rather than Gaelic Football, and he holds the record (I think) for the least amount of lower grade games before making his AFL debut. So there is no doubt Hunt will give it a good shake. And if he is successful then maybe the floodgates will open..............

goodnight

07-30-2009, 02:35 AM

I bet allover QLD and NSW parents are thinking why should i sign my son up to play League which is more physical on the body. There image isnt great lately.

but would he have ever been able to command that money if he had played AFL all his life. League gave him the profile to command those dollars whether it be AFL,union or super league.

But you are right about the kiddies though - very hard coz i dislike AFL played league and union here and overseas but i don't think I'll be signing my 3yo up to league or union. Too many 10 year old 100kg maoris running around in under 11's:admin Should be called the MRL

the beaver

07-30-2009, 02:44 AM

He'll go ok in VFL but won't stand out, he'll look to break the contract after a year and play Union in France with SBW, Gower etc

sallywinder

07-30-2009, 03:03 AM

heres a fearless prediction....

hunt gets kod from a hit going for the ball. the nrl doesnt have the angles afl does in that regard...

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Above Deck

07-30-2009, 03:49 AM

we all know victorians have a herd mentality. like cattle, when they see a line forming, they join it. when the line moves, they move with it.

the only reason they form such big crowds is that they lack individual thought. so how does that qualify them as a judge of any sport?

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I dont know why your angry at the Vic, they arent the one who
poached Hunt from the NRL - that was QLD!!

Victoria as a state are fully behind both codes, the AFL footy show
often have Storm players on and try get viewers to get behind their
NRL side, other states play them off of each other.

If Vics lack individual thought, then how does this explain the fact
that the AFL (which formed in Vic and used to be called VFL) is run
far far smoother than the NRL (which formed in NSW or QLD) which
is in tatters and falling to pieces.

BoppaZoo

07-30-2009, 04:19 AM

but would he have ever been able to command that money if he had played AFL all his life. League gave him the profile to command those dollars whether it be AFL,union or super league.

But you are right about the kiddies though - very hard coz i dislike AFL played league and union here and overseas but i don't think I'll be signing my 3yo up to league or union. Too many 10 year old 100kg maoris running around in under 11's:admin Should be called the MRLThats it and i agree.

My kids will be able to whatever they choose i will never stop them.

But if i had to choose it will be Soccer for the both of them.. MRL:lol:

T.C.W

07-30-2009, 05:02 AM

To me its sounds like the Teams dont benefit from any TV money.

Unlike the AFL were they get there fair share.

Mate i follow both games. And enjoy both so to the League fans are saying oh he cant make it he has no chance. Good luck to him blah blah blah.

But tell that to the many Irish fella's that come over from Gealic Footy.
Now if it was you in Hunt's shoes and you were offered say $300,000 a years for the club you have done everything with.

Or you were offered 1 million for a game you never have played but there wont be a huge amount of pressure on you in your first year of Football because you are playing VFL.

Mate its a easy decision.the clubs get millions from TV, it is around 3.5 million a year off tv alone, but they sign a long agreement, because of the super league war and Nine got it cheap and so did foxtel because news corp has a 25% of the company and so did PBL at the time it was all nuted out, league screwed it self a little and now they can't compete in the money stakes, but the news agreement it will alot better because league it king in 2 states with over 10 million people living in it, The money will increase big time, I hope AFL goes into westen sydney it will be the biggest disaster and will cost them millions of millions of dollars

boxoncottonon

07-30-2009, 08:45 PM

Speculation last night from Craig "Punchy" Hutchinson on the AFL 9 Footy Show that Hunt would likely be receiving upwards of $700K per year for 3 years.
Not bad for a bloke who can throw a ball sideways while running forwards.....

sallywinder

06-21-2011, 05:24 PM

well, i was wrong. hunt seems to be making a good fist of it.

AFL is eeeeeaaaaasssyyyyyyyyy......

Rodin

06-21-2011, 05:53 PM