Bellew vs Cleverly

[Flea Man]

discuss :good

[robpalmer135]

we have had this thread at least 20 times this year.

general concensous is, Cleverly would win the fight now, in years time its 50-50.

some of Bellews fan boys will say him already.


for me, Bellew has not fought anyone yet. Would like to see Clev give up the commonwealth title and give Bellew a shot at it.

[Flea Man]

we have had this thread at least 20 times this year.

general concensous is, Cleverly would win the fight now, in years time its 50-50.

some of Bellews fan boys will say him already.


for me, Bellew has not fought anyone yet. Would like to see Clev give up the commonwealth title and give Bellew a shot at it.

:patsch i've probably commented and said the same thing myself:good

[Grant1]

I've not seen anything of Bellew yet but he seems to be getting a lot of credit thrown at him on here.

I'm looking forward to seeing him in action.

[robpalmer135]

I've not seen anything of Bellew yet but he seems to be getting a lot of credit thrown at him on here.

I'm looking forward to seeing him in action.

partly because he posts on here. remember Willie Limmond is ranked number 2 at lightweight by ESB members!!!! and allowed to fight for the WBU!!!!

[NO MAS]

we have had this thread at least 20 times this year.

general concensous is, Cleverly would win the fight now, in years time its 50-50.

some of Bellews fan boys will say him already.


for me, Bellew has not fought anyone yet. Would like to see Clev give up the commonwealth title and give Bellew a shot at it.

Spot on :good

[Grant1]

partly because he posts on here. remember Willie Limmond is ranked number 2 at lightweight by ESB members!!!! and allowed to fight for the WBU!!!!

I think you could be right.

[Dan684]

some of Bellews fan boys will say him already.


As opposed to a pure hater of the Manchester area ??

partly because he posts on here. remember Willie Limmond is ranked number 2 at lightweight by ESB members!!!! and allowed to fight for the WBU!!!!

As opposed to someone who makes it his every intention to upset anyone who posts on here who has been/is a trainer/fighter ???

I think you could be right.

He may be right (Cleverly at this moment is probably the better established) but dont take this for common sense with Rob. He has a bifg grudge against anyone who's fought or trained and anyone to do with the Manchester area.

Wont give Bellew credit, slags Arnie, slags hatton.

Slags of Billy Nelson, slags of Willy Limmond, slags of Derry Matthews. No respect cunt !:good

[Mazallan]

To be honest I hate Cleverly. He is a twat and has a face that needs smashing about n hell of a lot plus his entire character is one of a complete cunt but even with my clouded judggement I think he pretty handily beats everyone in the domestic scene.

[NO MAS]

As opposed to a pure hater of the Manchester area ??



As opposed to someone who makes it his every intention to upset anyone who posts on here who has been/is a trainer/fighter ???



He may be right (Cleverly at this moment is probably the better established) but dont take this for common sense with Rob. He has a bifg grudge against anyone who's fought or trained and anyone to do with the Manchester area.

Wont give Bellew credit, slags Arnie, slags hatton.

Slags of Billy Nelson, slags of Willy Limmond, slags of Derry Matthews. No respect cunt !:good

I agree with the timeliness of his last post...

He gave me endless shit sometime ago for saying how much I rated Big Daddy.... right now Tony Bellew don't need Cleverley... but down the stretch of their careers it will be Bellew all the way... he is in the best camp there is with Farnell and the boys...:yep

[robpalmer135]

As opposed to a pure hater of the Manchester area ??



As opposed to someone who makes it his every intention to upset anyone who posts on here who has been/is a trainer/fighter ???



He may be right (Cleverly at this moment is probably the better established) but dont take this for common sense with Rob. He has a bifg grudge against anyone who's fought or trained and anyone to do with the Manchester area.

Wont give Bellew credit, slags Arnie, slags hatton.

Slags of Billy Nelson, slags of Willy Limmond, slags of Derry Matthews. No respect cunt !:good

I do give Bellew credit, i ranked him number 7 at light heavy in the country.

Nelson, Arnie, Hatton, Limmond and Matthews are all associated for one reason.............the WBU. Its has nothing to do with manchester.

I have never slagged of a fighter or traininer on here other than Limmond and Nelson.

Limmond for the WBU, and Nelson for being a complete twat.

[brown bomber]

Nelson for being a complete twat.Out of order Rob, you don't know him. Billy is a good fella.

[kosaros]

partly because he posts on here. remember Willie Limmond is ranked number 2 at lightweight by ESB members!!!! and allowed to fight for the WBU!!!!

Let me set one thing straight, I am not influenced by whoever comes on here by the rankings that I have done.

[robpalmer135]

Let me set one thing straight, I am not influenced by whoever comes on here by the rankings that I have done.

fair enough Kos. If Limmond had never fought Khan, and never came on here, would he still be ranked 2nd???????????

[kosaros]

fair enough Kos. If Limmond had never fought Khan, and never came on here, would he still be ranked 2nd???????????

Yes he would. Henry Castle was ranked ahead of him and all he had done of note was knock out a shot Graham Earl. Lets face it, the division is not the most packed with talent AND a good resume at lightweight - Arthur has more talent than Limond, but not the better resume. Thaxton is more established, but recent losses have put into doubt just how much he has left.

[robpalmer135]

i think beating a shot graham earl is better than anythigh on Limmonds resume.

[robpalmer135]

Kos lets take this debate to the brit rankigns thread.

[colinthfc]

Cleverly should push on to European level, and Bellew could then meet McIntosh for the vacant crown later

[billy nelson]

robpalmer wouldnt have the BALLS to say these commens to peoples faces,your just a sad sad man whos done nothing

[robpalmer135]

Out of order Rob, you don't know him. Billy is a good fella.

he has called me worse. also note i said was being a twat, which most agreed with.

[robpalmer135]

robpalmer wouldnt have the BALLS to say these commens to peoples faces,your just a sad sad man whos done nothing

please define what you mean by doing nothing???

your in the entertainment business, this is a forum, your going to get critics. if you don't like it, don't read it.

to make my point clear Billy, although I think Limmond would beat most of the other top 10 lightweights in our rankings including Murray (Arhur is the only one he would not beat) unfortunaley as you and Willie have pointed out he has not had the opportunity to fight these guys. However the rankings our based on performance and record, and over the last 3 years mant other lightweight have better records.

[billy nelson]

thats simply due to the lack of oppertunites rob,willies been top 5 or 6 for ages and as always SEEMS TO BE BYPASSED