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digregorio1.
07-29-2009, 11:55 AM
said on Sky sports news that with his bad relationship with frank ****** he'd have to promote the fight himself for it to happen...so it looks like the fight wont be taking place then

GazOC
07-29-2009, 12:08 PM
Thats the end of that then.

NO MAS
07-29-2009, 12:12 PM
If they did what JC and RJ Jnr did they could do what they wanted and cut everyone out and make it totally their own show...:think

Losfer_Words
07-29-2009, 12:13 PM
Thats the end of that then.

It's an easy way of saying 'I don't won't the fight and no-one's dictating what I choose to do'. No-one's accusing him of 'bitching out', as the Yanks would say on the GF, but Hatton obviously has other priorities- and who could blame him? Sky were the only ones who kept bringning a Hatton-Khan fight up and the constant talk of it their end was getting annoying to say the least. At last it can be put to rest now:good.

GazOC
07-29-2009, 12:15 PM
If they did what JC and RJ Jnr did they could do what they wanted and cut everyone out and make it totally their own show...:think

Thats easier for Hatton, JC and RJJ to do at that stage of their careers then it would be for Khan, he's got potentially a long time left in the sport and might not want to rock the boat just yet.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 12:22 PM
Hattons fault

He burned his bridges with ******

And he was OK to do so - to become independent and earn more

But the downside to that is - now he needs ******s corporation - he is filled with doubt

I dont see what he has got to be concerend about though

****** seems to have be open to the fight - and didnt seem to have a problem with worrking with Hatton again

I guess Hattons ego wont allow him to fight for ******s Sports Network again

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 12:28 PM
Ricky needs an easy number. Pretty much the story of his entire career.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 12:37 PM
Hattons fault

He burned his bridges with ******

And he was OK to do so - to become independent and earn more

But the downside to that is - now he needs ******s corporation - he is filled with doubt

I dont see what he has got to be concerend about though

****** seems to have be open to the fight - and didnt seem to have a problem with worrking with Hatton again

I guess Hattons ego wont allow him to fight for ******s Sports Network again

Hatton doesn't need ******'s co-operation. He quite simply doesn't need this fight. It wouldn't do that much for his reputation in the sport (even if he chins Khan early, think Breidis Prescott, whereas a loss would tarnish his record). He's earned enough money and if he hasn't can earn a load more fighting any other champ in the division. He doesn't need ****** or Khan and did far better in terms of legacy and money after leaving ****** that, I believe, he'd have done with him.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 12:39 PM
Ricky needs an easy number. Pretty much the story of his entire career.

When you start from a totally skewed perspective which is determined to find a flaw with and tear down the many champs/contenders/elite fighters he took on during his career then yes it is. Meanwhile, for those of us who live in the real world...

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 12:43 PM
Hatton doesn't need ******'s co-operation. He quite simply doesn't need this fight. It wouldn't do that much for his reputation in the sport (even if he chins Khan early, think Breidis Prescott, whereas a loss would tarnish his record). He's earned enough money and if he hasn't can earn a load more fighting any other champ in the division. He doesn't need ****** or Khan and did far better in terms of legacy and money after leaving ****** that, I believe, he'd have done with him.Yeah of course he doesnt need this fight. He never needed none of the WBU ones either. This would be an EXCELLENT fight for British boxing. In years gone by domestic stars who were also big names internationally fought each other. Hatton has never been interested in that because his entire career is opportunistic. To be frank i think he'd destroys Khan but its disgraceful for him not to make this fight and give back to the sport that has rewarded him so handsomely. Paltry excuses like "he doesnt need this fight" are a disgrace to what this sport is all about.

Shane Mosley didnt need Vernon Forrest but he gave him that opportunity and fought him. Kostya never needed Hatton but he fought him and launched the kids career into stardom. Hatton though is never willing to do what all great fighters do because his is a career that wants the best reward for the least amount of risk and guys like you have no problem explaining away facical retorts such as this.

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 12:45 PM
When you start from a totally skewed perspective which is determined to find a flaw with and tear down the many champs/contenders/elite fighters he took on during his career then yes it is. Meanwhile, for those of us who live in the real world...You're talking rubbish mate. Mine is an opinion that is willing to report cold facts not meandering bullshit sugercoated in fanboyism. Iv watched Ricky since his career began and im more than willing to call a spade a spade. The great fighters in British history all gave to this sport handsomely. Ricky Hatton hasnt. If the pinnacle of his career are hand picked titles vs guys no one's ever heard of and a career defined by a guy who had one foot in retirement than i suggest you find another sport to watch.

GazOC
07-29-2009, 12:47 PM
Fucking hell, do we have do to this again?

KCD
07-29-2009, 12:48 PM
Ricky needs an easy number. Pretty much the story of his entire career.


Tosser

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 12:49 PM
TosserYou're mums a tosser. This is the problem with you Fratboys rather than debate a point with logic you're first retort is to cuss out.

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 12:50 PM
Fucking hell, do we have do to this again?If it wasnt for the hottie in you're avatar id let you have it to. (whats her name by the way?)

felix
07-29-2009, 12:50 PM
Tosser

:thumbsup





:lol:

KCD
07-29-2009, 12:51 PM
Fucking hell, do we have do to this again?


Of course we do because there are two dipshits by the name of Scurlantings and Betty (yet to post but he will), spouting nonsense about a good fighter in Hatton.

Soon there will be the usual ducking of Witter brought up again, even though Hatton has fought Tszyu, Mayweather, Pacquaio and Castillo a hell of alot better fighters than Witter....but he is scared of Junior 'shitter' Witter.:patsch

Also they will be spouting the usual Witter is Mayweather with a punch:lol:

Same shit different day

KCD
07-29-2009, 12:54 PM
You're mums a tosser. This is the problem with you Fratboys rather than debate a point with logic you're first retort is to cuss out.


Firstly im not a fanboy of Hatton but i give props where props are due.

Secondly you are talking logic when i called you on being a tosser because you never say anything good about Hatton, and wether your a fan or not he has had a good career, and you come back with the your mums a tosser:lol:

How old are you.......3,4,5,?

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 12:57 PM
Of course we do because there are two dipshits by the name of Scurlantings and Betty (yet to post but he will), spouting nonsense about a good fighter in Hatton.

Soon there will be the usual ducking of Witter brought up again, even though Hatton has fought Tszyu, Mayweather, Pacquaio and Castillo a hell of alot better fighters than Witter....but he is scared of Junior 'shitter' Witter.:patsch

Also they will be spouting the usual Witter is Mayweather with a punch:lol:

Same shit different day

From them 4 fighters you claim were better than Witter

Tszyu - ok for arguements sake I will agree with you

Castillo - I disagree - he was shot to shit -

Mayweather and Pacquaio - Hatton fought them yes - but lets note he was also KO'd by both of them

So from them 3 fighters you listed better than Witter (I reject that version of Castillio was better)

I would agree he only beat Tsyzu - at his absolute peak performance of his career

So there is good reason to believe Witter could have be a real threat to beating Hatton

And with so little reward for it - Hatton had good reason to duck Witter

GazOC
07-29-2009, 12:59 PM
If it wasnt for the hottie in you're avatar id let you have it to. (whats her name by the way?)

Thanks for sparing me your wrath (its Esther Baxter) but I've heard all the arguments before and its tedious.

You think the pro Hatton posters are fanboys who think he can do no wrong and they think you are a blind hater who won't give him his fair dues.

You say: Zoo practially retired
Reply: He KO'd Sharmbo Mitchell just 6 months before

You say: JLC was shot when he fought Hatton
Reply: He was ranked still in the P4P fighters.

You say: He got flattened both times in stepped up to Elite level
Reply: No shame in that, it was still genuine world class fighter and the man at 140

You say: Never for a top prime opponent
Reply: Malinaggi was number I contender and Urango was a champ and is still undefeated at 140.



Yadda, yadda, yadda....:roll:

Oh, and somewhere along the line you manage to fit in "shamelessly ducked", "brutally KO'd", "real boxing fans know.." and "his career was smoke and mirrors".

KCD
07-29-2009, 01:05 PM
Them 3 fighters you mention that were better than Witter ( I reject that version of Castillio was)

Tszyu - ok for arguements sake I will agree with you

Castillo - I disagree - he was shot to shit - Witter went on to become a
WBC World Champion

Mayweather and Pacquaio - Hatton fought them yes - but lets note he was also KO'd by both of them

So from them 4 fighters you listed better than Witter

I would agree he only beat Tsyzu - at his absolute peak performance of his career

So there is good reason to believe Witter could have be a real threat to beating Hatton

And with so little reward for it - Hatton had good reason to duck Witter


No your getting me wrong.

Im not saying Witter was shit....i name him shitter to anoy a few people:good

Witter had a decent career...Hatton had a better.

I dont believe Hatton was ever scared of Witter but the fight never made sense, due to US tv and ££££££.

The Tszyu win is severly underated.....my fav fighter of all time is Tszyu, a class act.

The Tszyu that Hatton beat would of beaten Witter and you have to remember whilst he had been out due to injury there was the destruction of Mitchell and there was once again the prospect of a DLH fight on the horizon.

As i say im not saying Witter would of had a chance of beating Hatton, i dont believe he would of, i think Hatton is a better fighter overall, but people like Scurlantings and Betty Swollocks are deliberatly underplaying and slandering a good British champion at every corner and the main reason is a so called "ducking" of Witter who's best ever win was against B level champions in Harris and Corley.

jc
07-29-2009, 01:06 PM
Well this fights dead in the water. Shame.

djoc175
07-29-2009, 01:13 PM
FAO Betty!!

GazOC
07-29-2009, 01:15 PM
Well this fights dead in the water. Shame.


The thread could do with putting out of its misery as well before the other Chuckle Brother chips in...

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 01:16 PM
You're talking rubbish mate. Mine is an opinion that is willing to report cold facts not meandering bullshit sugercoated in fanboyism. Iv watched Ricky since his career began and im more than willing to call a spade a spade. The great fighters in British history all gave to this sport handsomely. Ricky Hatton hasnt. If the pinnacle of his career are hand picked titles vs guys no one's ever heard of and a career defined by a guy who had one foot in retirement than i suggest you find another sport to watch.

The point is that my perspective is the one which is based on cold, hard observable fact supported by most logical boxing fans. Yours is the illogical, twisted point based on meaningless assumptions which can never be proven and the somewhat irrational view that you're right while all the experts are wrong. I.e. Castillo (ring #1 and p4p #8) and Malignaggi (ring #1 generally recognised top contender) were garbage yet the likes of Holt, Torres, Witter etc... (ranked #3-#8) are brilliant just because they happen to be the guys he didn't fight. The silly twisted "logic" to try to explain the farcical claim that a guy who fought Tszyu, Castillo, Mayweather and Pacquiao is supposed to be afraid of a fighter who was nowhere near the level, yet should have entertained that fighter "just because he;s British". Go back to school kid, boxing ain;t your sport :hi::hi::hi::hi:

Now as a politican you might do down quite will. Dishonest, full of crap with a preconceived agenda and able to put a spin on anything!

'Ben'
07-29-2009, 01:18 PM
Ricky Hatton said he wants to go on to be the worlds BEST promoter.... if he wnats to be an even average promoter he needs to learn that you can't say to guys like Frank ****** I'm not doing business with you!.... that's called cutting your nose off to spite your face! ****** is the biggest UK promoter in the country and saying no to him means your saying no to alot of future fights involving your own fighters.... fights that Hatton can't afford to say no to at this very tender time in his promting career.

i don't see Hatton lasting long as a promoter, I don't think the Hatton's have the brains or experience.

'Ben'
07-29-2009, 01:19 PM
..... but isn't Khan a free agent right now?

jc
07-29-2009, 01:20 PM
The thread could do with putting out of its misery as well before the other Chuckle Brother chips in...

:huh

djoc175
07-29-2009, 01:22 PM
Khan would crack that eggy chin inside 3.

slip&counter
07-29-2009, 01:22 PM
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"TKO"
07-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Yeah of course he doesnt need this fight. He never needed none of the WBU ones either. This would be an EXCELLENT fight for British boxing. In years gone by domestic stars who were also big names internationally fought each other. Hatton has never been interested in that because his entire career is opportunistic. To be frank i think he'd destroys Khan but its disgraceful for him not to make this fight and give back to the sport that has rewarded him so handsomely. Paltry excuses like "he doesnt need this fight" are a disgrace to what this sport is all about.

Shane Mosley didnt need Vernon Forrest but he gave him that opportunity and fought him. Kostya never needed Hatton but he fought him and launched the kids career into stardom. Hatton though is never willing to do what all great fighters do because his is a career that wants the best reward for the least amount of risk and guys like you have no problem explaining away facical retorts such as this.

The point about not needing Khan was a direct response to another poster who clamed Hatton "needed ******". The point is, he doesn't. But this is the same old argument again. Fine, you think Hatton (if he comes back) should fight Khan just because he happens to be British, even though the fight is pretty insignificant in the bigger picture. I think, well, if he wants to great, but it's not as though it matters in the scheme of things if he decides to retire or fight somebody else. I also think he'd murder Khan is he has anything left, but if not it's no big deal. There are plenty of options for either of them.

Kostya fought Hatton as he was his mandatory, an unbeaten prospect and he thought he could win the fight. If going to the States to fight numerous top 10 and/or elite fighters on away turf is never risking anything or testing yourself then I guess most would be satisfied with it. If you seriously think that fighting Manny Pac/Floyd Mayweather on away turf, good fighters like Castilo, Malignaggi, Collazo and Urango away and Tszyu is "opportunistic" just because he didn;t fight a guy or two who offer nothing apart from Englishness then I feel sorry for you, you are turning into Batty Swollocks.

My point in summary is that if Hatton wants to fight Khan, great. If not, there are plenty of equal or better calibre opponents out there or he can retire if he feels he can't do it anymore. Khan is the one with it all to prove, not Hatton.

GazOC
07-29-2009, 01:24 PM
:huh

We've had Scurla, can Betty be too far behind?

hitman_hatton1
07-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Hattons fault

He burned his bridges with ******

And he was OK to do so - to become independent and earn more

But the downside to that is - now he needs ******s corporation - he is filled with doubt

I dont see what he has got to be concerend about though

****** seems to have be open to the fight - and didnt seem to have a problem with worrking with Hatton again

I guess Hattons ego wont allow him to fight for ******s Sports Network again

open to a one off fight is the question. :deal

and we all know he isn't.

no way would ****** do a no strings attached fight.

for me this whole thing has always been a dead fight.

certainly all the time amir is with frank anyway. :roll:

GazOC
07-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Zoo had 3 and half million reasons to fight Hatton. He didn't take the fight as a favour.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 01:26 PM
Ricky Hatton said he wants to go on to be the worlds BEST promoter.... if he wnats to be an even average promoter he needs to learn that you can't say to guys like Frank ****** I'm not doing business with you!.... that's called cutting your nose off to spite your face! ****** is the biggest UK promoter in the country and saying no to him means your saying no to alot of future fights involving your own fighters.... fights that Hatton can't afford to say no to at this very tender time in his promting career.

i don't see Hatton lasting long as a promoter, I don't think the Hatton's have the brains or experience.

****** may be hated on these boards

But as a promoter he is the real deal - he has delivered for years good fights and made lots of money for himself and his fighters

He has warned the likes of Haye and Hatton and Calzaghe that being a promoter is a hard business

Its not just a question of having a lot of money - and that you easily make more

****** explains that first you have to invest alot of money in your fighters in order to see long term good returns

And if you get it wrong - you wont be seeing anything back on your money

It takes time and pateience and wisdom and the guts to make good investments

****** questioned if Haye and Hatton have what it takes

Lennox Lewis failed

Naseem Hamed failed

****** is still going

djoc175
07-29-2009, 01:27 PM
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Smoke and mirrors

hitman_hatton1
07-29-2009, 01:28 PM
The point about not needing Khan was a direct response to another poster who clamed Hatton "needed ******". The point is, he doesn't. But this is the same old argument again. Fine, you think Hatton (if he comes back) should fight Khan just because he happens to be British, even though the fight is pretty insignificant in the bigger picture. I think, well, if he wants to great, but it's not as though it matters in the scheme of things if he decides to retire or fight somebody else. I also think he'd murder Khan is he has anything left, but if not it's no big deal. There are plenty of options for either of them.

Kostya fought Hatton as he was his mandatory, an unbeaten prospect and he thought he could win the fight. If going to the States to fight numerous top 10 and/or elite fighters on away turf is never risking anything or testing yourself then I guess most would be satisfied with it. If you seriously think that fighting Manny Pac/Floyd Mayweather on away turf, good fighters like Castilo, Malignaggi, Collazo and Urango away and Tszyu is "opportunistic" just because he didn;t fight a guy or two who offer nothing apart from Englishness then I feel sorry for you, you are turning into Batty Swollocks.

My point in summary is that if Hatton wants to fight Khan, great. If not, there are plenty of equal or better calibre opponents out there or he can retire if he feels he can't do it anymore. Khan is the one with it all to prove, not Hatton.

yeah good post.

rantings is a bitter old man about hatton.

always has been. :yep

GazOC
07-29-2009, 01:28 PM
..and shamelessly ducking.

hitman_hatton1
07-29-2009, 01:33 PM
****** is still going

just. :lol:

he can't even get full arena's for khan.

who is bigger profile than ricky hatton was in the early 00's.

he's on the decline. :smooch

'Ben'
07-29-2009, 01:40 PM
just. :lol:

he can't even get full arena's for khan.

who is bigger profile than ricky hatton was in the early 00's.

he's on the decline. :smooch


Your forgetting about all the really good up and coming fighters ****** has now.... although he better make sure they like him though:smh

AndrewFFC
07-29-2009, 01:50 PM
The point about not needing Khan was a direct response to another poster who clamed Hatton "needed ******". The point is, he doesn't. But this is the same old argument again. Fine, you think Hatton (if he comes back) should fight Khan just because he happens to be British, even though the fight is pretty insignificant in the bigger picture. I think, well, if he wants to great, but it's not as though it matters in the scheme of things if he decides to retire or fight somebody else. I also think he'd murder Khan is he has anything left, but if not it's no big deal. There are plenty of options for either of them.

Kostya fought Hatton as he was his mandatory, an unbeaten prospect and he thought he could win the fight. If going to the States to fight numerous top 10 and/or elite fighters on away turf is never risking anything or testing yourself then I guess most would be satisfied with it. If you seriously think that fighting Manny Pac/Floyd Mayweather on away turf, good fighters like Castilo, Malignaggi, Collazo and Urango away and Tszyu is "opportunistic" just because he didn;t fight a guy or two who offer nothing apart from Englishness then I feel sorry for you, you are turning into Batty Swollocks.

My point in summary is that if Hatton wants to fight Khan, great. If not, there are plenty of equal or better calibre opponents out there or he can retire if he feels he can't do it anymore. Khan is the one with it all to prove, not Hatton.


Good post.

Cobbler
07-29-2009, 02:14 PM
Zoo had 3 and half million reasons to fight Hatton. He didn't take the fight as a favour.

He didn't do it just to give something back to the sport that had rewarded him so handsomely and launch lil Ricky's career in superstardom before he himself retired???

Scurla wouldn't steer me wrong, would he? :-(

jc
07-29-2009, 02:14 PM
****** has the most promosing stable of young fighters, ut putting the likes of Amir ad the olympian s on ppv this early is not going to turn them into Ricky Hattons...

UndisputedUK
07-29-2009, 02:28 PM
Tosser

I can understand what he is saying, but it came out wrong.

Putting it this way, Did Ricky fight any mandatory challengers?
He lost to 2 elite fighters by KO.

Someone like Honeygun, Benn etc had a Cobra or Gman as an opponent and won. Hatton lost to Mayweather and Pacman, both champions at s'featherweight or lower.

Hatton was popular and built his career by swarming and overpowering smaller fighters, whilst avoiding damaging loses and dangerous risks like Witter.

Hatton was great for the sport and did extremely well for his abilities.

Darni187
07-29-2009, 02:39 PM
Hatton should just call it a day plane and simple. He has not even said if he will fight again let alone him fighting Khan.

GazOC
07-29-2009, 02:47 PM
I can understand what he is saying, but it came out wrong.

Putting it this way, Did Ricky fight any mandatory challengers?
He lost to 2 elite fighters by KO.

Someone like Honeygun, Benn etc had a Cobra or Gman as an opponent and won. Hatton lost to Mayweather and Pacman, both champions at s'featherweight or lower.

Hatton was popular and built his career by swarming and overpowering smaller fighters, whilst avoiding damaging loses and dangerous risks like Witter.

Hatton was great for the sport and did extremely well for his abilities.

I don't see that fighting mandatories is relevent, there are good and bad mandatories, that seems like setting the goalposts where they suit the arguement.

Hatton fought a decent level of opponent from Zoo onwards (who should probably get a mention in your post in the Benn/ Honey paragraph), including serveral natural 140lbers, belt holders and the Rings #1 in that division.

Yes, he got comprehensively beaten by both FBP and Pac and that shows he wasn't an 'elite' fighter but to say he made a career beating up little guys is very harsh. He was a world class 140lber for 4-5 years and the champ in the division for most of that time.

trotter
07-29-2009, 02:56 PM
Hatton lost to Mayweather and Pacman, both champions at s'featherweight or lower.



Dearie me, relevance?

Both have beaten Oscar - at 154/147 respectively.

It's not where your from it's where you're at. Anyone making the argument you've just made is being silly. Or very, very biased.

NO MAS
07-29-2009, 02:58 PM
Thats easier for Hatton, JC and RJJ to do at that stage of their careers then it would be for Khan, he's got potentially a long time left in the sport and might not want to rock the boat just yet.

I think that Khan will vacate his strap at 140 and go back in with the Lightweights..:think

It will make more sense for him to do that and wait about for a fight with Hatton at 140..... I think that Khan could pick pocket a win against Hatton....:think

Betty Swollocks
07-29-2009, 03:02 PM
so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the piss out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 03:08 PM
I can understand what he is saying, but it came out wrong.

Putting it this way, Did Ricky fight any mandatory challengers?
He lost to 2 elite fighters by KO.

Someone like Honeygun, Benn etc had a Cobra or Gman as an opponent and won. Hatton lost to Mayweather and Pacman, both champions at s'featherweight or lower.

Hatton was popular and built his career by swarming and overpowering smaller fighters, whilst avoiding damaging loses and dangerous risks like Witter.

Hatton was great for the sport and did extremely well for his abilities.

Realistically, I mean, who cares? Have you seen the standard of some of the mandatory contenders out there? Very few champions do anymore. Whilst the concept of a mandatory challenger is an admirable one, promotional "favours", economic interest and sheer ranking incompetence mean that the whole system has disintegrated to the stage where it's not much short of a farce. I freely admit I can't recall who the mandatories were when Hatton first won the WBA and WBC belts, but I prefer to judge a fighter on the quality of the guys he has fought rather than whether he fought his mandatories, unless a situation arises where a fighter blatantly ducks his mandatory (ala Bowe-Lewis).

Hatton had Tszyu who was p4p #3 and ranks up alongside the McClellan win. Curry was probably the greatest win of any British fighter in the last 50 years. Mayweather and Pacquiao were both p4p #1, there's no disgrace in losing those fights. Mentioning that they were once champions at lower weights is as irrelevant as saying James Toney was once a middleweight, Floyd was a welter and would have to cut off a leg to make lower now. Pac himself has said he will never fight below 140 again and is fighting at 145 next.

I don't know who these smaller fighters were who Hatton's career was built on? Were the Magee? career light welter. Tackie? Long established light welter. Tszyu? Career light welter. Maussa? Ditto. Collazo? Welterweight. Mayweather? Ditto. Urango? JW and a massive one at that. Castillo? Who was forced to fight at 140 as he literally could not starve himself down to any lower anymore. malignaggi? Career JW. As these are really the wins people talk about when rating his career, anything else is just up and coming type fights.

As for dangerous risks, I think Tszyu, PBF, Pacquiao (all of whom were favoured), Tackie, Castillo and Malignaggi (none of whom were longer than about 13/8) plus dangerous welters like Collazo might just have been a bit risky. Even Magee when he was on the up. And if all there is left is that he didn't fight a guy whose only claim to fame is an accident of birth due to not wanting to make his name for him, then I can't say it's a big issue for me in light of the above list.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 03:15 PM
so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the piss out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.

Fuck off back to the funny farm you mentally challenged tool. Nobody knows what Hatton is up to at the moment or whether he's even going to fight again. But if he does then I'm sure it will be somebody who didn't get ironed out inside a minute by a complete unknown 12 months or so ago. Hey I know what why doesn't Pac fight Dennis Laurente to prove he's the best in the Phillipines? Why doesn't Cotto face Henry Bruseles, prove he's the best in Puerto Rico? Oh I know because they're facing each other in a mega fight and have fought Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Hatton, Lledwaba, Mosley, Morgarito, Quintana etc... between them. Therefore, to anybody outside those islands the fights are relatively insignificant. Though I'm sure somewhere in General Dos Santos City or Caguas there's a "Batty Swollocks" coming out with exactly that spiel and being pitied as a drooling retard by the rest of the world!

Jeff Young
07-29-2009, 03:31 PM
Hatton and Calzaghe has carried british boxing internationally the past decade.....what the fuck has amir khan done on the international stage at this point to get a shot at hatton? won the wba strap from kotelnik...

hatton has givin a lot to british boxing, let alone boxing as awhole....

hatton critics will say well he "ducked witter" or "he is avoiding khan because he doenst want to work with franks ******".....what the hell has witter and khan done to deserve a hatton fight? jack shit...

khan and witter at this point dont deserve to be in the same arena as hatton, let alone the same ring...its that simple...

Betty Swollocks
07-29-2009, 03:44 PM
Fuck off back to the funny farm you mentally challenged tool. Nobody knows what Hatton is up to at the moment or whether he's even going to fight again. But if he does then I'm sure it will be somebody who didn't get ironed out inside a minute by a complete unknown 12 months or so ago. Hey I know what why doesn't Pac fight Dennis Laurente to prove he's the best in the Phillipines? Why doesn't Cotto face Henry Bruseles, prove he's the best in Puerto Rico? Oh I know because they're facing each other in a mega fight and have fought Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Hatton, Lledwaba, Mosley, Morgarito, Quintana etc... between them. Therefore, to anybody outside those islands the fights are relatively insignificant. Though I'm sure somewhere in General Dos Santos City or Caguas there's a "Batty Swollocks" coming out with exactly that spiel and being pitied as a drooling retard by the rest of the world!

wind your neck in.
Hatton was still fighting handpicked turkeys like Steven Smith, Pedersen and Vilches for the WBU...what 25, 30 fights in? Even his best wins now are over accidental beltholders and washed up old men. Only a deluded sackswinger such as yourself can't see the gaping holes in his record.
A total sham of a career, unparalelled amongst supposed world class fighters.

trotter
07-29-2009, 03:46 PM
so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the piss out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.

Haha here he is

Betty Swollocks - 'The troll's troll'

Betty Swollocks
07-29-2009, 03:49 PM
Haha here he is

Betty Swollocks - 'The troll's troll'


i'm voicing my opinion....and there are plenty who agree with me. Hardly trolling.
You didn't have cash tied up in the Bernie Madoff swindle too, did you?

Beeston Brawler
07-29-2009, 03:50 PM
:ban1

'Ben'
07-29-2009, 04:04 PM
so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the piss out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.


He wasn't nearly as bad as German fighters such as Sven Ottke or Felix Strum though, lets get that right though!

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Hatton was spineless not to fight Witter during his WBU title fight defence days a rival from only a few miles across town when he was happy to fight his great domestic rival Stephen Smith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 04:07 PM
wind your neck in.
Hatton was still fighting handpicked turkeys like Steven Smith, Pedersen and Vilches for the WBU...what 25, 30 fights in? Even his best wins now are over accidental beltholders and washed up old men. Only a deluded sackswinger such as yourself can't see the gaping holes in his record.
A total sham of a career, unparalelled amongst supposed world class fighters.

Nobody said his record was perfect. It's just pretty good and one he can be proud of. He ranks among the top British fighters of my generation which is the last 20 years or so. Two p4p fighters and 6-7 other top 10 rated fighters is pretty good by anyone's standard. On talent and resume there's only Lewis and Calzaghe who spring to mind as having a strong claim to be higher during that period. Probably Benn as well, but his best was probably before that time frame. I'd say that's a pretty damn good career by world class standards. To put it into context which of the current world class 140lbers have a better resume?

Yeah, he wasted a bit too much time between 2003-05 in marking time fights, but hell this is not a new thing in British boxing. Look at Joe Calzaghe's 29th fight v Rick Thornberry (average at best). Clinton Woods spent fighters 28-32 taking on Sam Leuii, Terry Ford, John Lennox Lewis and Juan Nelongo. There's Scott Harrison with Kebede, Abelyan and Estrada. Witter was fighting Lucky Sambo, Laatekwie Hammon and Fred Kinuthia at the same point. Most of the top British fighters have had a spell during their career where they've hit "going nowhere" mode. But I forget, it's only a problem with Hatton because he has the cheek to be popular and earn good money for fighting.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 04:11 PM
Hatton was spineless not to fight Witter during his WBU title fight defence days a rival from only a few miles across town when he was happy to fight his great domestic rival Stephen Smith !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who fucking cares let's be honest. These guys were rivals in Witter's head only. If Witter had gone out of his way to make it happen, i.e. made himself marketable and put in a proper, reasonable written offer rather than simply making smoke and mirrors gestures to the press it might have happened. Let us not forget it was Hatton who turned up ringside to Witter's fight when they had that televised discussion. Once Hatton beat Tszyu he was way above Witter;s level and did not want to make the name of a guy he viewed as a nob head. And bearing in mind his regular trips to the states to take on top ten and p4p fighters while Witter mainly fought hand picked opponents in his own back yard, the only people who give a stuff (or claim to) about this fight are Witter fans or (more prevalently) Hatton haters looking for some mud to sling.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 04:14 PM
Stephen Smith didnt have to make himself marketable though

No did Tony Pep

No that blown up Swedish Super Featherweight who no-one had ever heard of

Why did different rules apply to Junior Witter to get fight and a shot at Hattons WBU belt?

Jeff Young
07-29-2009, 04:23 PM
Stephen Smith didnt have to make himself marketable though

No did Tony Pep

No that blown up Swedish Super Featherweight who no-one had ever heard of

Why did different rules apply to Junior Witter to get fight and a shot at Hattons WBU belt?

people that like to hammer hatton about witter need to remember witter was never vocal about hatton till after hatton had become a star....i always believed witter was looking for a payday off hatton....and its clear, when you look at the timetable of events...

scurlaruntings
07-29-2009, 04:45 PM
He wasn't nearly as bad as German fighters such as Sven Ottke or Felix Strum though, lets get that right though!To be honest theres no diffrence. Both got paid handsome fee's for hand picking their opponents. Only diffrence is Sven was incredibly boring to watch unless he was KO'ing Mundine.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Stephen Smith didnt have to make himself marketable though

No did Tony Pep

No that blown up Swedish Super Featherweight who no-one had ever heard of

Why did different rules apply to Junior Witter to get fight and a shot at Hattons WBU belt?

It's this simple. When you are a fighter on your way up, the promoter generally chooses the opponents and will do so to give his fighter the best possible learning curve. If Witter wishes to make himself stand out as an opponent of choice then he needs to do something to actually make the fight happen. If you are asking would he have been a better opponent than some of the fighter on Hatton's record during that period then with hindsight he certainly would. However, you could make that same accusation with anyone. Any of about fifty fighters would have been better than the list Witter himself took on in the five years between Judah and Ndou.

If a fighter wants to make himself the opponent of choice then he has to do something to make the fight happen. At least put in an offer rather than just talking to the papers. Otherwise, the other fighter just continues on his merry way. As was the case with Hatton and as was the case witih Witter himself. As was the case with Thaxton to Khan and Froch to Calzaghe.

KCD
07-29-2009, 05:45 PM
I can understand what he is saying, but it came out wrong.

Putting it this way, Did Ricky fight any mandatory challengers?
He lost to 2 elite fighters by KO.

Someone like Honeygun, Benn etc had a Cobra or Gman as an opponent and won. Hatton lost to Mayweather and Pacman, both champions at s'featherweight or lower.

Hatton was popular and built his career by swarming and overpowering smaller fighters, whilst avoiding damaging loses and dangerous risks like Witter.

Hatton was great for the sport and did extremely well for his abilities.


Hatton is and was an overachiever imo, im not denying this.

What i am saying is for his two losses against Pacman and Mayweather he had two equally good victories against Tszyu and Castillo.

Yes i know both had seen better days but he beat them in good style, just what you want from a fighter fighting aged greats.

And as to his fights with Floyd and Pac, what if he hadnt fought them? People would be saying he didnt ever intend to fight the best.

As ive said i think Hatton beats Witter 9 times out of 10 imo.

And for every person to say Hatton avoided, was scared of Witter etc i will mention 3 names:-

Tszyu (number 1 LWW at the time, top 3 P4P)

Mayweather (number 1 LM at the time, top p4p)

Pacman (number 1 at LW at the time, top p4p)

If Hatton was so afraid of the challenge of Witter, why the hell would he even consider fighting these guys?

KCD
07-29-2009, 05:47 PM
so Hatton won't fight his big local threat at 140...prove he is infact the best in Britian at the weight...so what's new? different mooted opponent, same old story.
Has there ever been a more farcical resume on a supposed world class fighter? That this man has been allowed to take the piss out of the sport as he has is a crying shame.


So you are saying Witter has a better resume?

Just as you yourself see Witter as this all time great Light Welter?

Darni187
07-29-2009, 06:11 PM
Hatton is and was an overachiever imo, im not denying this.

What i am saying is for his two losses against Pacman and Mayweather he had two equally good victories against Tszyu and Castillo.

Yes i know both had seen better days but he beat them in good style, just what you want from a fighter fighting aged greats.

And as to his fights with Floyd and Pac, what if he hadnt fought them? People would be saying he didnt ever intend to fight the best.

As ive said i think Hatton beats Witter 9 times out of 10 imo.

And for every person to say Hatton avoided, was scared of Witter etc i will mention 3 names:-

Tszyu (number 1 LWW at the time, top 3 P4P)

Mayweather (number 1 LM at the time, top p4p)

Pacman (number 1 at LW at the time, top p4p)

If Hatton was so afraid of the challenge of Witter, why the hell would he even consider fighting these guys?

Hatton is a very smart guy, he fought the P4P best, but he didn’t fight Witter a local fighter, because if Witter beat him he would not be able to live with it, but if he lost to P4P best fighters which he did and both fights were one sided he could tell himself and the world 'I lost to the P4P best', 'I gave it my best shot'. Hatton in my opinion was never good enough to fight Mayweather and Pacman, but money talks and Hatton's fanbase and PPV numbers are good plus both Mayweather and Pacman fought it's a very winnable fight with a great payday.

I like Hatton he is a nice guy and I feel he should retire a very very rich man.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Hatton is a very smart guy, he fought the P4P best, but he didn’t fight Witter a local fighter, because if Witter beat him he would not be able to live with it, but if he lost to P4P best fighters which he did and both fights were one sided he could tell himself and the world 'I lost to the P4P best', 'I gave it my best shot'. Hatton in my opinion was never good enough to fight Mayweather and Pacman, but money talks and Hatton's fanbase and PPV numbers are good plus both Mayweather and Pacman fought it's a very winnable fight with a great payday.

I like Hatton he is a nice guy and I feel he should retire a very very rich man.


Thats the truth of the matter right there


£400,000 for a routine defence of his WBU title at the Manchester Nynex Arena against any bum

£400,000 to defend against Witter would be the same finicial reward but the risk of a humilating and bitter loss that could have fucked up his whole lucarative future

£10,000,000 to fight Mayweather and Pacman in Las Vegas for the World titles - worth the risk - and the pain of losing


THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER

so what it all boils down to is this

WITTER WAS CONFIDENT OF BEATING HATTON - HAD NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN

HATTON HAD DOUBTS IN HIS HEAD THAT THERE WAS A REAL DANGER OF LOSING TO WITTER FOR NO GREATER REWARD THAN A ROUTINE FIGHT

SO HATTON DUCKED WITTER

Betty Swollocks
07-29-2009, 06:19 PM
Hatton is a very smart guy, he fought the P4P best, but he didn’t fight Witter a local fighter, because if Witter beat him he would not be able to live with it, but if he lost to P4P best fighters which he did and both fights were one sided he could tell himself and the world 'I lost to the P4P best', 'I gave it my best shot'. Hatton in my opinion was never good enough to fight Mayweather and Pacman, but money talks and Hatton's fanbase and PPV numbers are good plus both Mayweather and Pacman fought it's a very winnable fight with a great payday.

I like Hatton he is a nice guy and I feel he should retire a very very rich man.

you're getting warm, but it hardly takes a 'very smart guy' to pull that off. Infact it takes a dishonest and manipulative man more than anything. Most wouldn't use the sport like that, as a vehicle to fraudulently enrich themselves. The guy was/is one big farce.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 06:22 PM
In relation to my above post

This is why I feel Hatton is a bit of a fraud

Too worried about losing - got to keep the smoke and mirrors of that carefully built up undefeated record which he had up until the Mayweather fight

The likes of Nigel Benn didnt duck Michael Watson at Commonwealth level

Hattons biggest British rival was Witter - and he ducked it - shit house

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:25 PM
Thats the truth of the matter right there


£400,000 for a routine defence of his WBU title at the Manchester Nynex Arena against any bum

£400,000 to defend against Witter would be the same finicial reward but the risk of a humilating and bitter loss that could have fucked up his whole lucarative future

£10,000,000 to fight Mayweather and Pacman in Las Vegas for the World titles - worth the risk - and the pain of losing


THIS IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER

so what it all boils down to is this

WITTER WAS CONFIDENT OF BEATING HATTON - HAD NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN

HATTON HAD DOUBTS IN HIS HEAD THAT THERE WAS A REAL DANGER OF LOSING TO WITTER FOR NO GREATER REWARD THAN A ROUTINE FIGHT

SO HATTON DUCKED WITTER

More lies (do like the font but however much you repeat that the moon is made of cheese doesn't make it any more credible). If Witter wanted the fight so much he should have done something to make it, rather than gobbing off to the press trying to get some headlines. Your post above is sheer conjecture and assumptions and has no factual basis. We can but judge on the facts and those are than Hatton was willing to leave his comfort zone, mix it with the best and take on risky fights which weren't that beneficial to him (Collazo, Malignaggi). We never saw any of that appetite from Witter. His epitaph will probably be "never fought Ricky Hatton".

Plus, we could easily say the same about him. Offers were on the table for Eamonn Magee and Ajose Olusegun. Big domestic matchups, surely what's good for the goose and all that...

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:26 PM
you're getting warm, but it hardly takes a 'very smart guy' to pull that off. Infact it takes a dishonest and manipulative man more than anything. Most wouldn't use the sport like that, as a vehicle to fraudulently enrich themselves. The guy was/is one big farce.

You probably also believe the moon is made of cheese, the FBI shot John Lennon and Elvis and Lord Lucan are alive and working in Harry Ramsden's fish and chip shop in Blackpoo!

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 06:28 PM
Hatton and Witter we both promoted by ****** when the demand for this fight was ripe

It should have been easily made

But ****** probaly wanted Hatton to duck Witter just as much as Hatton himself did

The only lies being told was that

"Its been written in the contract - Ricky will fight Junior in his next few fights"

'Ben'
07-29-2009, 06:30 PM
To be honest theres no diffrence. Both got paid handsome fee's for hand picking their opponents. Only diffrence is Sven was incredibly boring to watch unless he was KO'ing Mundine.


What about the fact that Hatton actually went abroad to fight the very best and what about the fact that Hatton never got any of them very very wrong decisions for himself? Even the Collazo fight was in the US.... I actually though he just about won, and I;m not Hatton's greatest fan...look back earlier in the thread if you don't beleive me.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:32 PM
In relation to my above post

This is why I feel Hatton is a bit of a fraud

Too worried about losing - got to keep the smoke and mirrors of that carefully built up undefeated record which he had up until the Mayweather fight

The likes of Nigel Benn didnt duck Michael Watson at Commonwealth level

Hattons biggest British rival was Witter - and he ducked it - shit house

Smoke and mirrors is KOing 14 straight non-top-50 fighters and fooling those who see what they want to see into thinking it means something. Now that is a carefully built up record. Smoke and mirrors is repeating time after time to the papers that you are somebody's rival, even though that person doesn't give a stuff about you. Smoke and mirrors is claiming that someone is "ducking" you when you never do anything to make the fight happen. Smoke and mirrors is claiming that a fight should happen because both guys are British and then welching on fights with other highly rated Brits. Smoke and mirrors is feigning outrage when another fighter comes back from a loss against a lower top-10 rated opponent then coming back from your own loss against a guy who wouldn't crack the top 100.

Smoke and Mirrors is not racking up a decent record involving 4-5 top 20 fighters, winning a title against a p4p top 5 fighter, unifying in your first defence, winning a belt at a higher weight, beating another p4p fighter than moving up again to challenge the p4p #1 all the time fighting away from your home turf comfort zone. Or following that by stepping up to face another #1 contender and p4p #1. Bottom line when you look at both fighters' careers its clear who was the one to go out of his way to make the big fights happen and who was happy sat in their comfort zone.

KCD
07-29-2009, 06:34 PM
In 2003 Hatton fought his first real world rated fighter in Phillips who was coming off a split decision loss to the number 2 in the division Mitchell, then he went and fought Tackie or Rios i cant remember.

At the same time Witter was fighting Jurgen Haek......you see where im going?

Hatton had cracked the top 10 rankings on all belts, Witter hadnt.

Hatton had a large fanbase, Witter hadnt.

Hatton was fighting ranked opponents, Witter wasnt (he had twice beaten the south African and lost awfully to Judah)

The US t.v and British t.v was interested in Hatton, they werent Witter.

At the point in time you are referring to Witter wasnt even considered a threat to Hatton or to any world champion whilst Ricky was, call it good promoting or what but this is what happened.

Witter has always been a few steps behind Hatton.

Witter won his title beating a Demarcus Corley who has never been a elite champion and Corley was more shot than Castillo.

He then had a gimme defence against Morua and was goddamn awful.

He then fought a B level former champion in Harris, who had been beaten by Ray Oliveira who people slated Hatton for fighting.

And then when he fought the first fighter who came to win he lost against Bradley.

Now just compare Hattons opponents post Tszyu to these and i think take the blinkers off and anyone with a bit of sense has there answer.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 06:35 PM
Question for Betty Swollocks................


What do you think of Hattons girlfriend Jennifer Dooley ?

(She is the woman that can be seen howling with pain and in floods of tears at his fights)

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:36 PM
Hatton and Witter we both promoted by ****** when the demand for this fight was ripe

It should have been easily made

But ****** probaly wanted Hatton to duck Witter just as much as Hatton himself did

The only lies being told was that

"Its been written in the contract - Ricky will fight Junior in his next few fights"

True I don't know what became of that, might have fallen by the wayside after Witter turned down Magee. Dunno, I'm just speculating. Back in the day both guys seemed to want it - hence Hatton turning up ringside at a Witter fight for a face to face discussion. Once Hatton beat Tszyu I think it changed with him and his attitude became "why should I give this tool a payday or make his name for him". As I have said the difference is that bearing in mind Hatton's overall career it's not a big deal. If you're Witter or a fan of his (or a Hatton hater which basically equates to the same thing) then it is a big deal because it would have been by far the biggest fight of his career as he could never be arsed to chase any other truly big fights.

KCD
07-29-2009, 06:38 PM
True I don't know what became of that, might have fallen by the wayside after Witter turned down Magee. Dunno, I'm just speculating. Back in the day both guys seemed to want it - hence Hatton turning up ringside at a Witter fight for a face to face discussion. Once Hatton beat Tszyu I think it changed with him and his attitude became "why should I give this tool a payday or make his name for him". As I have said the difference is that bearing in mind Hatton's overall career it's not a big deal. If you're Witter or a fan of his (or a Hatton hater which basically equates to the same thing) then it is a big deal because it would have been by far the biggest fight of his career as he could never be arsed to chase any other truly big fights.

You know what mate im glad im not the only one mentioning this, alot of people like to ignore that this happened.

So in turn Magee was avoided by Witter:yep

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:40 PM
Question for Betty Swollocks................


What do you think of Hattons girlfriend Jennifer Dooley ?

(She is the woman that can be seen howling with pain and in floods of tears at his fights)

I can give you your answer right here. She's a dumb bint who lacks sincerity and is only with him for his money and cries crocodile tears. Just like his mum is a chav, his dad is a manipulative conman, his brother is a cnut, he isn't really a City fan, he's crap to watch, he ducks XYZ (even though there is no shred of evidence), his hairdo is crap, he's a fat cnut, Enzo Mac would beat him, every fighter he beats becomes overrated and/or shot after the fight, basically anything to do with him gets routinely laid into.

This, in a nutshell, is why neither yourself nor Mr Swollocks have a scrap of credibility on this issue. Part of any constructive discussion is to be able to give a balanced and reasonable opinion and look at both sides. Offer constructive criticism but also recognise good achievements. Both of you have shown time and again that you conspicuously lack this capability.

Aztec God
07-29-2009, 06:41 PM
No-one is defending Witter here

You want more ammunation against Witter

He turned down a fight with Peurto Rican KO King - Luis Pinto

Cotto took the fight instead and took Pintos undefeated record

Witter is a a annoying guy

Hattons career is way more succesful than Witters who spend his career fighting at the Donny Dome as TKO always reminds us

Not the point

Point is

Hatton ducked witter because Witter was too dangerous for no great reward

icemax
07-29-2009, 06:44 PM
.......the only people who give a stuff (or claim to) about this fight are Witter fans or (more prevalently) Hatton haters looking for some mud to sling.

:nono

Making statements like this makes you just as bad as the people you are criticising...stop using Witter as a bat to crack Hatton haters with. I'm one of the few real Witter fans about, I don't mind Ricky Hatton and I would have loved for the fight to have been made when it made sense.

This thread is supposedly about Khan - Hatton, can we please stick to the subject and stop responding to cocks like paedo boy swollocks?

KCD
07-29-2009, 06:46 PM
:nono

Making statements like this makes you just as bad as the people you are criticising...stop using Witter as a bat to crack Hatton haters with. I'm one of the few real Witter fans about, I don't mind Ricky Hatton and I would have loved for the fight to have been made when it made sense.

This thread is supposedly about Khan - Hatton, can we please stick to the subject and stop responding to cocks like paedo boy swollocks?

:lol: Really?

You are the first person ive ever heard actually admit it:good

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:47 PM
No-one is defending Witter here

You want more ammunation against Witter

He turned down a fight with Peurto Rican KO King - Luis Pinto

Cotto took the fight instead and took Pintos undefeated record

Witter is a a annoying guy

Hattons career is way more succesful than Witters who spend his career fighting at the Donny Dome as TKO always reminds us

Not the point

Point is

Hatton ducked witter because Witter was too dangerous for no great reward

See posts 71, 75, 78 and 80. Basically, this is just complete speculation on your part and has no basis in fact. A solid written offer for the fight was never on the table at any stage and so your accusation falls flat at the first hurdle. Plus, if that is all you've got to throw at Hatton considering his overall career it is rather weak.

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 06:49 PM
:nono

Making statements like this makes you just as bad as the people you are criticising...stop using Witter as a bat to crack Hatton haters with. I'm one of the few real Witter fans about, I don't mind Ricky Hatton and I would have loved for the fight to have been made when it made sense.

This thread is supposedly about Khan - Hatton, can we please stick to the subject and stop responding to cocks like paedo boy swollocks?

Good point. Sorry Sir. I just find it uncanny how none of them ever seem to comment on a Witter thread without mentioning Hatton. See Flint's post #81 above. He is clearly not a Witter fan. So what is the game with bringing him up all the time? Answer, solely as a piece of mud to throw at Hatton. His career is decent enough that he deserves better than that and should be discussed on his own merits, not just as a footnote to someone else's.

I wish Junior all the best for his upcoming title bout. :good

icemax
07-29-2009, 06:56 PM
:lol: Really?

You are the first person ive ever heard actually admit it:good

Whats so funny?, cunt flap

icemax
07-29-2009, 06:57 PM
Good point. Sorry Sir. I just find it uncanny how none of them ever seem to comment on a Witter thread without mentioning Hatton. See Flint's post #81 above. He is clearly not a Witter fan. So what is the game with bringing him up all the time? Answer, solely as a piece of mud to throw at Hatton. His career is decent enough that he deserves better than that and should be discussed on his own merits, not just as a footnote to someone else's.

I wish Junior all the best for his upcoming title bout. :good

:thumbsup

KCD
07-29-2009, 07:00 PM
Whats so funny?, cunt flap

Well i see you dont understand sarcasm.

And actually you are the second as another loser has just admitted to the same catastrophy.:shake

"TKO"
07-29-2009, 07:05 PM
Well i see you dont understand sarcasm.

And actually you are the second as another loser has just admitted to the same catastrophy.:shake

Who, me? I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a fan but I will support him when he is on against most fighters. I just tend to get a bit overly harsh when I see people throwing mindless abuse at one of the fighters I am a fan of.

icemax
07-29-2009, 07:06 PM
Well i see you dont understand sarcasm.

And actually you are the second as another loser has just admitted to the same catastrophy.:shake

Great and well thought out response.....well done, keep it up:good

KCD
07-29-2009, 07:09 PM
Who, me? I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a fan but I will support him when he is on against most fighters. I just tend to get a bit overly harsh when I see people throwing mindless abuse at one of the fighters I am a fan of.

No mate i was referring to Icamax admitting to being a Witter fan.

I was being sarcastic and as you can probably see its fallen foul in the Witter club of one.

And what you have said about Hatton has been spot on. But i will be supporting Witter as he is British this weekend but i think it will be a Alexander UD.

djoc175
07-29-2009, 11:33 PM
Question for Betty Swollocks................


What do you think of Hattons girlfriend Jennifer Dooley ?

(She is the woman that can be seen howling with pain and in floods of tears at his fights)
Hatton engaged her:patsch

I pray to the almighty Lord that Hatton doesn't get Ray Parlour'd

"TKO"
07-30-2009, 05:10 AM
Hatton engaged her:patsch

I pray to the almighty Lord that Hatton doesn't get Ray Parlour'd

True, that was a beauty. "Keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed". Accustomed how exactly, through her own efforts and success? :nut

Utter1
08-05-2009, 04:33 PM
you're getting warm, but it hardly takes a 'very smart guy' to pull that off. Infact it takes a dishonest and manipulative man more than anything. Most wouldn't use the sport like that, as a vehicle to fraudulently enrich themselves. The guy was/is one big farce.

bang on so many levels.............

"TKO"
08-05-2009, 05:53 PM
bang on so many levels.............

Mainly that of being a retarded, drooling tool. Hey yes I know let's have a go at the man who took on four p4p ranked fighters for not facing a champ for a day because he happened to share an accident of birth. I know maybe he can take on Thaxton again or Lynes or someone like that afterwards. We'd be a world laughing stock because none of our fighters dare to try for the top level but at least we'd have our nice little domestic round robin :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

Betty Swollocks
08-06-2009, 02:19 AM
Question for Betty Swollocks................


What do you think of Hattons girlfriend Jennifer Dooley ?

(She is the woman that can be seen howling with pain and in floods of tears at his fights)


no real opinion in terms of her personality or morivations for shacking up with Wicky.
on her looks...I don;'t get why people make out she's a stunner. She ain't ugly but nor is she someone I would want to bang.....average looks, dodgy figure and just too tall. Also notice how she went from being a plain Jane to the way she was done up at the Pac fight....trying to one of these glamour WAGS....total bollocks. That heavily-laden mascara was running down here face after Pac banjoed her boy.

Dan684
08-06-2009, 02:33 AM
Welcome back betty haven't heard your shit for a while :good