Pacquaio vs. Barrera II

[warchild]

I think that this will be a close fight and will go 12 rounds. Barrera will try to step around Pacquaio and work his jab to set up counters, while Pacquaio will try to pressure Barrera and take him out of his gameplan. The outcome will depend on who controls the pace.

Opinions?

[Boinko]

Manny is too tough, he's in his prime, and the first fight left no indication that Barrera has what it takes to beat Pac.

I would be quite shocked if MAB pulls it off.

[SgrRyLeonard]

Although I could be wrong, I think Barerra has one great fight left in him and will pull of the upset. Barerra W12 Pacquiao.

[KayEpps]

PacMan is still to much for MAB.

He's had a great career and will get a nice paid day to end it.

[achillesthegreat]

I'm calling MAB IF he fights intelligently and doesn't let the Mexican come out of him. I fear he is too old now. After an early buzz against JMM he did fade, same in the first Juarez fight. In the Juarez rematch he fought more conservatively. So I'm not sure.

Age and smarts will be telling.

[KobeIsGod]

Barrera's saavy and skill will keep it very competitive through the first half of the fight, but Pac's speed,youth, and determination will wear him down late. Pac TKO 10

[Vanboxingfan]

I personally think Bararra has more boxing intelligence and is more adaptable than Pac and will therefore find away to win. Not an easy assignment I might add.

[BaronBrad]

I'm calling MAB IF he fights intelligently and doesn't let the Mexican come out of him. I fear he is too old now. After an early buzz against JMM he did fade, same in the first Juarez fight. In the Juarez rematch he fought more conservatively. So I'm not sure.

Age and smarts will be telling.


Pretty much agree with everything achilles said.

Barrera would not have taken the fight if he had not have thought that he could win. At first I thought he'd lose but now I think he will win on points.

[Morrissey]

Zero chances for MAB to win it.

There is a reason why it took him almost 4 years to have this rematch: MAB knows there is no way he can beat Pac.

Last time they fought, he did everything in his arsenal to pull it off, including headbutting and punching while the referee was halting them, but they are mostly just a show of desperation, and when he do those kinds of stuffs, you know he is losing the fight. Much like he did with JMM.

And the rematch with Rocky? He knows he can box smart against that heavy puncher that is why he was so quick to award him a rematch. On the other hand, against Pac, he knows facing him again would be a career suicide. That is why he waited years, when he is already set to retire, before agreeing to this fight.

PS: I actually don't think he really expected to fight JMM last March. He was thinking of a swan song at that time, and that is against Pac. Unfortunately, the GBP-TR fiasco happened.

[Morrissey]

Pretty much agree with everything achilles said.

Barrera would not have taken the fight if he had not have thought that he could win. At first I thought he'd lose but now I think he will win on points.

More reason to believe that he won't win againts Pac, since he only accepted the rematch becasue of the potential career-high pay day he can have before he leaves the sports.

If he was cofident or even had a thought of beating Pac, the rematch could have occured much earlier.

[BxN]

Pacquiao easily stops him again.

[Morrissey]

Surprised with the initial result of the poll.

The MAB sentimentalists are in full force I guess, while the Pac fans are yet to log in to cast their votes.:yep

[BobDigi5060]

Barrera loses a UD similar to the Marquez fight. I'd hate to see him get TKO'd again.

[Imperial1]

Barrera loses a UD similar to the Marquez fight. I'd hate to see him get TKO'd again.

Than he will do much better than the 1st fight because their was nothing UNANIMOUS about Marquez's win ..But as long as he does better in this fight he still gets my respect !!


WAR BARRERA !

[brooklyn1550]

Manny Pacquiao TKO8 Marco Antonio Barrera

[pugilistspecialist]

This will be the fight that finally retires Barrera. He couldnt find that 5th gear against Marquez and at this stage wont against Pacquiao. Old-School heads say if a fighter ko's a fighter the 1st time. He usually gets it done faster and worse the 2nd time. With barrera in the twilight of his career this seems the likely scenario. Barrera will try his damndest but it wont be enough. He may even be more competitive. But same result if not faster.

[warchild]

One thing that's hard to figure out, is why Barrera dealt with the hard hitting southpaw Hamed so easily, but had such trouble with Pacquaio. I know that Hamed's and Pacquaio's styles are different, but it seems like Barrera should have had more success against Pacquaio than he did. Did Barrera take Pacquaio lightly, or is it a case of two styles not matching up competitively?

[Morrissey]

I am afraid the outcome can be much worse than the 3rd round TKO of Erik Morales.

[warchild]

I am afraid the outcome can be much worse than the 3rd round TKO of Erik Morales.

Barrera will definitely have to be careful, but I don't think that he'll get blown away early. Morales fought a terrible fight in the rubbermatch against Pacquaio....he fought like he didn't want to be there, or didn't like his chances if it went into the late rounds....so he tried to stop Pacquaio early. Barrera is no master boxer, and he might not win the rematch against Pacquaio, but he's good enough so that if he wants to make sure that he doesn't get stopped early, he probably won't.

[nighthunter]

Pacquiao easily stops him again.:good

pac is too much like the first fight... the difference after the first fight is that pac improved and getting better and better :scaredas: :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mind Reader]

I hope MAB wins.... I don't think it will be as onesided as the first fight if he doesn't win.

[knockout]

Hey theres a liver shot if Barrera can land it,i think its the only way to stop him. :yep

[boxbox]

might end faster than the first one. PAC ko9...straight left

[warchild]

Five days to go.

Did the countdown show change anyone's mind about who they think will win?

[acb]

This will be the fight that finally retires Barrera. He couldnt find that 5th gear against Marquez and at this stage wont against Pacquiao. Old-School heads say if a fighter ko's a fighter the 1st time. He usually gets it done faster and worse the 2nd time. With barrera in the twilight of his career this seems the likely scenario. Barrera will try his damndest but it wont be enough. He may even be more competitive. But same result if not faster.

Great point. It was like he could not turn it on for a sustained amount of time against Marquez. Yes he fought a great fight, but if you have followed his career you know that he used to be able to sustain action.

Still, picking from my heart, Barrera SD in a masterful last throwdown. :smoke

[the_what]

I love MAB. He is a legend. But, Im not stupid. Pacman gets him out inside of 5 rounds. If MAB pulls it off, its the upset of the century.

[the_what]

PAc can't hide no more after he beats Barrera.

Marquez/pac 2 is a must.

Thats only if Brokeback Marquez doesnt go and hide behind Nacho once again.

[41fever]

PAC MAN, but closer than the 1st

I wouldn't b surprised if the opposite though

[warchild]

I have a feeling that Pacquiao might have a more difficult time with Barrera this time. If Barrera wants to make it a point to not get stopped, he probably won't....winning is another matter, but I don't think that Barrera will get ambushed this time.

[hmi]

Barrrera already knows the strategy of Pac, that is non-stop fight. If somehow Barrera can slow down Pac or keep up with the Pacman, then Barrera might have a chance. Other than that, it's a TKO. My guess is 6th round TKO.

[chimba]

Hard to beat a man with 4 lungs. MAB better not get tired.

[Kamil]

The Underdog Barrera

[Dunky McCafferty]

Im a big fan of Pacquiao, & I was utterly confident he would demolish Barrera until 2 days ago when I seen the HBO countdown. Now, Im not so sure.

you see, I believe Barrera when he said he couldnt get 'up' for fights anymore, including the Marquez fight(which I thought Barrera did enough to win) & that the only fight that motivates him is Pacquiao.

Now, if Barrera boxes, hes boring to watch, but effective as hell & is a nightmare for his opponents. If he fights behind that tight defence like he did against Hamed & Juarez & uses his jab, I think hes honestly got a chance of puling off the upset. But if he loses his temper for one moment in the fight & trades? hes a beaten man. Simple as.

But I think Barrera hs a big chance, especially as Pac isnt training much with the legendary Roach anymore, & that can only be a bad thing IMO. However, I dont blame pac for his apparent fall-out with Roach, as being snubbed by Roach for DLH must have been a kick in teeth for a modern day legend like Pacquiao.

[chimba]

Im a big fan of Pacquiao, & I was utterly confident he would demolish Barrera until 2 days ago when I seen the HBO countdown. Now, Im not so sure.

you see, I believe Barrera when he said he couldnt get 'up' for fights anymore, including the Marquez fight(which I thought Barrera did enough to win) & that the only fight that motivates him is Pacquiao.

Now, if Barrera boxes, hes boring to watch, but effective as hell & is a nightmare for his opponents. If he fights behind that tight defence like he did against Hamed & Juarez & uses his jab, I think hes honestly got a chance of puling off the upset. But if he loses his temper for one moment in the fight & trades? hes a beaten man. Simple as.

But I think Barrera hs a big chance, especially as Pac isnt training much with the legendary Roach anymore, & that can only be a bad thing IMO. However, I dont blame pac for his apparent fall-out with Roach, as being snubbed by Roach for DLH must have been a kick in teeth for a modern day legend like Pacquiao.

I kinda agree this is the best Barrera have prepared since Hamed. No excuses this time and no posting hes shot when like you said he almost beat JMM

[SugarShane_24]

Barrera just cashes out with another big payday.


Pac in 7.

[psychopath]

I think that this will be a close fight and will go 12 rounds. Barrera will try to step around Pacquaio and work his jab to set up counters, while Pacquaio will try to pressure Barrera and take him out of his gameplan. The outcome will depend on who controls the pace.

Opinions?

Yeah it will be a closely contested fight for as long as it last. I don't believe it will last 12 rounds. Somebody will be caught with a solid punch and will buckle down. :yep

Most probably yes, Barrera will try to step around Pacquaio but I don't see him being succesful because Pacquaio has learned to cut off the ring so well.

Safest prediction is Pac by K.O. or T.K.O. inside 10 rounds.

[chimba]

Barrera just cashes out with another big payday.


Pac in 7.

Nah, He's really going to win this one for Mexico.. He will die in the ring before he loses. Its all about pride, dignity, family and country. Didnt you watch the HBO show??:D

[EpsilonAxis]

I want to say this is an easy choice in Pacquiao.

But MAB looked good last fight...even in losing...I think it will at least be a much tougher fight...MAB in top form is every bit the boxer and puncher as morales or JMM who gave Pac hell.

[warchild]

Pacquiao didn't look very good at the weigh-in....I'm not sure if that means anything, but it could be that the reports of him starting training late were true.

[Superheavyweight]

I’m rooting for Barrera, but I think it will end in a controversial draw.

[ryan_c]

I will go for pacquiao here, he is just to fast and strong for barrera

[warchild]

I will go for pacquiao here, he is just to fast and strong for barrera

Welcome to ESB.

I'm going to go with Barrera by decision....but I'm definitely not 100% confident in that prediction.

[ryan_c]

thanks for welcoming me warchild, well no one should count barrera out, so I will not be surprised by an upset

[BlueApollo]

Im a big fan of Pacquiao, & I was utterly confident he would demolish Barrera until 2 days ago when I seen the HBO countdown. Now, Im not so sure.

you see, I believe Barrera when he said he couldnt get 'up' for fights anymore, including the Marquez fight(which I thought Barrera did enough to win) & that the only fight that motivates him is Pacquiao.

Now, if Barrera boxes, hes boring to watch, but effective as hell & is a nightmare for his opponents. If he fights behind that tight defence like he did against Hamed & Juarez & uses his jab, I think hes honestly got a chance of puling off the upset. But if he loses his temper for one moment in the fight & trades? hes a beaten man. Simple as.

But I think Barrera hs a big chance, especially as Pac isnt training much with the legendary Roach anymore, & that can only be a bad thing IMO. However, I dont blame pac for his apparent fall-out with Roach, as being snubbed by Roach for DLH must have been a kick in teeth for a modern day legend like Pacquiao.

Very interesting take. I also bought Barrera's "motivation" line. Call me a sucker.

I disagree with the plan for Barrera though. That plan will get him the distance, but it won't win him the fight. One thing that hit me the other day is that Manny's head movement and willingness to throw with power at distance and from any angle, makes Barrera's jab virtually useless. He is going to have to find a way to land power shots against Manny, and lots of them, and he can only do that by coming forward.

Manny's right hand is better than it was, but he's also older, heavier, and more accustomed to stalking than he once was. Barrera may not have much left in the tank, but keep in mind that he took horrific punishment against Manny in a fight where he was less than 100% going in, and still made it eleven rounds.

Tonight's fight will be a treat to watch. I want to leave it that way, but man do the 4-1 decision odds for Barrera look tempting.

[knockout]

Pacquiao:happy

[raiderjay]

I like both guys, but I have to go with one last great stand for Barrera-

Barrera UD 116-112,116-113,115-114

Controversial decision with a case to made for either fighter to win. Pacquaio then wins the trilogy in their third fight via brutal 5th rd. TKO