View Full Version : Hitman blames training camp for Pacman loss
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm a huge fan of Hatton, and he's done a hell of a lot for the sport in Britain, but I think Pacquiao deserves a lot of credit for the perfect execution of the gameplan that Moorer and Roach came up with and it just stinks a little of sour grapes for Hatton to be saying he 'peaked 3 weeks early' and continuously blame the camp that he claimed in the build up to the fight was his best. He also claims in this interview that he wasn't sure he'd win as he entered the ring:
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He also doesn't sound too keen to return, either, and I can't blame him. Who knows what he has planned, though:good. Thoughts?...
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 03:53 PM
What an epic fucking fail this thread is:patsch!
John18
07-30-2009, 03:59 PM
He needs to face facts. I hope he retires as I reckon any of the top fightrs beat him.
dan-b
07-30-2009, 04:04 PM
What an epic fucking fail this thread is:patsch!
Perhaps we're all bored of analysing Ricky's platitudes.
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 04:09 PM
Perhaps we're all bored of analysing Ricky's platitudes.
Personally, I find each interview even more engaging, interesting and, more importantly, different- he always has something new to say:blood. Seriously though, I found this interview a bit of a shocker- even more so than some of the post-PBF ones:-(.
El Cepillo
07-30-2009, 04:11 PM
I'd advise you to read a book on body language, and then watch this interview. :D
Interesting to hear from Hatton, cleared a few things up.
Cheers!
*edit*
those two choices in your poll are not mutually exclusive
Mazallan
07-30-2009, 04:57 PM
Pac was amazing and Hatton never had no chance of beating him.
BamBam
07-30-2009, 05:03 PM
Ricky might have had a chance if he was allowed take an elephant gun into the ring. That was about his only hope
'Ben'
07-30-2009, 05:08 PM
Just excuses.... again. i never heard hinm say Pacquiao was the better fighter or give him any credit, correct me if I'm wrong....
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 05:12 PM
Just excuses.... again. i never heard hinm say Pacquiao was the better fighter or give him any credit, correct me if I'm wrong....
Not once to my knowledge. It's annoying as I have a hell of a lot of respect for Hatton but he has always had an excuse ready when he was soundly beaten by better fighters twice:-(.
GazOC
07-30-2009, 05:19 PM
He did give Pac full credit the week after the fight, called him "a monster" IIRC. I can't be arsed looking for it as I'm pretty sure it will only contain some other heinous quote to offend people....;)
Voted for Pac BTW.
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 05:21 PM
He did give Pac full credit the week after the fight, called him "a monster" IIRC. I can't be arsed looking for it as I'm pretty sure it will only contain some other heinous quote to offend people....;)
Voted for Pac BTW.
Cheers, Gaz:good. It is good to know that he has at least given credit at some point in time for the victory. It is not my intention to trash Hatton in this thread, I just find it amazing that he's saying these things.
GazOC
07-30-2009, 05:25 PM
He won't be the first boxer trying to rationalise a loss to himself and he won't be the last.....
Mandanda
07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
And people wonder i dislike Ricky Hatton...i've never been a fan and never will.
I thought he would of taken defeat better the second time round. Some people have said they met him in person and he accepted defeat and said he was the better man now he's coming out and saying this,
Losfer_Words
07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
He won't be the first boxer trying to rationalise a loss to himself and he won't be the last.....
True.
BoxingFanNo1
07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
His camp are definatly to blame for the nature of the loss but Hatton needs to face facts, even if everything went well in training he'd only be prolonging the inevitable L.
SouthpawSlayer
07-30-2009, 05:32 PM
if hatton is blaming his camp for his loss then he has already decided to comeback and fight, he is deluded unfortunately
if marquez beats mayweather and cotto beats pac then hatton might think he could fight marquez to be p4p number 1, please no
Hatton did it seems, in respect to Mayweather thinking he was the main attraction, have a not to good camp.
Having said that Pac was amazing and i think he would have beaten any Hatton on that night.
Betty Swollocks
07-30-2009, 06:15 PM
talking in the 3rd person again..........look how fat and ugly his face is, greasy hair and look at those spots.
'I peaked 3 weeks too early.....I beat some of the best p4p fighters in the world......i was winning the 2nd round....' :lol::lol::lol::lol:
deluded, arrogant, self-absorbed self trumpet-blowing clown. Notice how he talks everyone else down, includding his own brother and the man he compares himself to, Duran :patsch...i.e to boost himself and his ego up.
GazOC
07-30-2009, 06:18 PM
How grimly predictable.
Aztec God
07-30-2009, 06:22 PM
I know the real reason Hatton lost to Pac
He just made a mistake !!!!!!!
GazOC
07-30-2009, 06:41 PM
But he won't say what it is!!!
Aztec God
07-30-2009, 06:44 PM
But he won't say what it is!!!
I think he went out drinking the night before on the Las Vegas strip and come fight time he was still hung over when he got in the ring :lol::rofl
duranimal
07-30-2009, 06:50 PM
I'm a huge fan of Hatton, and he's done a hell of a lot for the sport in Britain, but I think Pacquiao deserves a lot of credit for the perfect execution of the gameplan that Moorer and Roach came up with and it just stinks a little of sour grapes for Hatton to be saying he 'peaked 3 weeks early' and continuously blame the camp that he claimed in the build up to the fight was his best. He also claims in this interview that he wasn't sure he'd win as he entered the ring:
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He also doesn't sound too keen to return, either, and I can't blame him. Who knows what he has planned, though:good. Thoughts?...
I'am not a Hatton fan & i'am def not a hater, BUT i can see absolutly why so many fight fan's don't cut 2 him, This guy play's the public well & it's all now so tiresome, boy cries wolf ect, bad camp crap, everybody 2 blame except himself, it's just a pile of (calculated) deluded crap:roll:
Well then!! he say's he peaked 3 weeks early eh? if thats the case what the fuck was he doing in the sauna for 7 days right up till weigh-in, i saw him a week before the fight & he looked great, bright clean skin, firm, but 4 days later, jeezus, he looked like an concentration camp inmate.
His whole problem 100% is down 2 his lifestyle & it caught up with him in style BIG TIME + i suppose he got the hump with mayweather 4 not laughing at his corny jokes 24/7, thats all yer here from Hatton, thats a laugh, he's a laugh, we had a few laughs blar blar blar:-( it ai'nt no laughing matter when yer don't take yer job seriously enough 2 prepare yerself 4 the fight of yer life IMO.
IMO what you have here is true conceit, Hatton' really had everything his own way all his carear at Lt/Welter, after the Mayweather defeat he said he found the extra weight a problem, but that did't stop him arranging a fight with DLH at WW did it:huh Hatton never picked this fight it was PACMAN that picked HIM & a case of the Hunter being the HUNTED:smoke
You can pick out uneasyness/dismissive bravado in the pitch in his voice in all his interviews since the fight was announced & what the fuck was that all about by coming into the ring 1st, total wank/total mental surrender, as if the pac camp gave a fuck, NO it was a case here that Hatton was no longer centre of attention & the dismissed underdog, they even had Pacquiao's name 1st on the fightposter, so if it's phsyc warfare then HATTON COLLAPSED.
Hatton has allways gone on about DURAN being his hero & role model, well it's about time that hatton showed the balls DURAN did after he was KO'D by Hearns 2 who came back & win the Middleweight title at 37. I was at the Duran show in Newcastle when Hatton said 2 Duran he hoped that he could acheive 25% of what Duran had acheived, DURAN looked down at him & replied: YOU must sacrifice everything for this, it must be your FATHER your MOTHER your WIFE your girlfriend, it must be everything in your life & then you'll succeed, but you must sacrife 4 this 2 happen.
Sorry about all this ink & 2 all the young Hatton fans on here i'am not a hater, i'am just a bit older & can see this bloke 4 what he is, i was in denial about Duran when i was a young man, if anyone mentioned leonard or new orleons i'd beat then all the way into ICU, it was easy 2 press my button's but eventually you can't hide from the truth not if you wish 2 be taken seriously in this life.
I think Hatton got what he deserved & he had it coming IMO, if he wants 2 fight on then let him do it 4 free in England for the fans that have made him a very wealthy young man, he owes it 2 them & especially all the young fan's that travelled 2 the Pacquiao fight who i upset in the MGM ZURI lounge bar by telling them all that Hatton's getting sparked in 2:bbb
I've met all the team Hatton i wish 2 meet & am know of the opinion that NO amount of $$$$$$$$$$ will satisfy them, man of the people eh? thats why he charges £50 a sig on a glove then:smoke
icemax
07-30-2009, 06:51 PM
deluded, arrogant, self-absorbed self trumpet-blowing clown.
Don't be so hard on yourself :good
GazOC
07-30-2009, 06:55 PM
For a non-hater thats quite a tirade Duranimal....;)
But I think its fair to say that Hatton (like most fighters) won't be winning a title at 37 years old or fighting for free in the near future. Its fair to say the money he's earnt has outstripped his ability but wheres the harm in that? Boxing has rarely been "fair" in that regard.
Aztec God
07-30-2009, 07:01 PM
Hatton charges £50 for a signature on a glove?
What a fucking disgrace
If I had a Hatton glove in my house with his signature on it - the glove would be going out with the rubbish tommorow morning (friday is bin collection day)
gallardo
07-30-2009, 07:02 PM
I voted no, but having watched the interview, I do think there could be some truth in what ricky says about problems in the training camp. Timing your peak is so important in boxing - if Hatton did peak too early, I can imagine it having a massive impact on his performance.
I'm a bit disappointed that Hatton has put the weight back on so quickly though. Hope the man sorts his health out and gets back in the ring (providing its geniunly safe for him to do so).
duranimal
07-30-2009, 07:10 PM
For a non-hater thats quite a triade Duranimal....;)
Dear oh dear:verysad none are so blind as those who do not wish too see or those so deaf who wish not too hear:verysad
Actually i'am quite lucid at present hence the softer tones & of course nothing compared 2 my "Sword of Truth" RANTS:smoke
My son is a Hatton fan as are all his generation & i get no pleasure out of the negitive aspects of Hatton or seeing him get flattened BUT i've just been around a bit longer than most on here & i'am just not as gullible/all believing as i used 2 be:cool:
GazOC
07-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Wasn't the "Sword of Truth" the Jeffrey Archer quote just before they found him guilty and sent him down?
duranimal
07-30-2009, 07:42 PM
Wasn't the "Sword of Truth" the Jeffrey Archer quote just before they found him guilty and sent him down?
NO:nono It was my cell mate Jonathan Aitken:smoke
GazOC
07-30-2009, 07:44 PM
NO:nono It was my cell mate :smoke
Was it? Great line though, "Armed with the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Justice...." and they convicted the fucker!!:lol:
Aztec God
07-30-2009, 07:47 PM
Dear oh dear:verysad none are so blind as those who do not wish too see or those so deaf who wish not too hear:verysad
Actually i'am quite lucid at present hence the softer tones & of course nothing compared 2 my "Sword of Truth" RANTS:smoke
My son is a Hatton fan as are all his generation & i get no pleasure out of the negitive aspects of Hatton or seeing him get flattened BUT i've just been around a bit longer than most on here & i'am just not as gullible/all believing as i used 2 be:cool:
I doubt that mate
You obviously dont know who your talking too
GazOC has been around longer than all of us is - he is bloody ancient ;)
:old
I doubt that mate
You obviously dont know who your talking too
GazOC has been around longer than all of us is - he is bloody ancient ;)
:old
:lol: at that smiley. Excellent.
GazOC
07-30-2009, 07:51 PM
Cheers Flint...:lol:....I think.....:?;)
duranimal
07-30-2009, 07:58 PM
Was it? Great line though, "Armed with the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Justice...." and they convicted the fucker!!:lol:
Yeh, thats what happens when you forget too pay yer monthly subs to the Freemason's:lol:
NO MAS
07-30-2009, 08:38 PM
I think hangin your chin out to dry against one of the best p4p ever is a reasonable excuse and although the training camp was not the best...doing everything that Roach said he would before the fight made it that much easier for Pac Man...
Didn't Roach say that Hatton would be " a victim of his own aggresion?".... and that is what happened..:yep
Farmboxer
07-31-2009, 01:33 AM
I have to give Pac credit, but Void, Sr. was not a good trainer.
djoc175
07-31-2009, 03:35 AM
I have to give Pac credit, but Void, Sr. was not a good trainer.
:happy:happy
Grant1
07-31-2009, 04:34 AM
I'm convinced Hatton's training camp contributed, his tactics were dreadful.
That's not the sole factor he loss though.
So none of those options suit :shock:
Pac is something special.
Hatton may not be the force he was but he stops Khan. I want to see Khan - Hatton!
phonk
07-31-2009, 04:44 AM
His old man, Ray, is currently on talkSPORT saying that the Hatton we saw in the Pacman fight is not the Hatton we all knew and loved :shock: then he alluded to external issues affecting Ricky during the Pacman fight.
:rofl:rofl
What a deluded bitter old fool.
duranimal
07-31-2009, 04:47 AM
His old man, Ray, is currently on talkSPORT saying that the Hatton we saw in the Pacman fight is not the Hatton we all knew and loved :shock: then he alluded to external issues affecting Ricky during the Pacman fight.
:rofl:rofl
What a deluded bitter old fool.
What a deluded GREEDY bitter old fool:smoke
DavidPayne
07-31-2009, 05:06 AM
Hatton is an old man.
It saus 30 on his certificate but I'd venture he's about 64 in Bernard Hopkins years.
crespo21
07-31-2009, 05:58 AM
I'm a huge fan of Hatton, and he's done a hell of a lot for the sport in Britain, but I think Pacquiao deserves a lot of credit for the perfect execution of the gameplan that Moorer and Roach came up with and it just stinks a little of sour grapes for Hatton to be saying he 'peaked 3 weeks early' and continuously blame the camp that he claimed in the build up to the fight was his best. He also claims in this interview that he wasn't sure he'd win as he entered the ring:
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He also doesn't sound too keen to return, either, and I can't blame him. Who knows what he has planned, though:good. Thoughts?...
I like Hatton but these comments are just stupid. At the end of the day he was getting hit all day long by the same shot against pac man. He should have adjusted to counter that punch but he was just not smart enough to do that and lost. He cant blame his camp for his inability to adjust to a different fighting style. Could you see Calzaghe or hopkins getting beaten so easily. NO.
Olu G. Rotimi
07-31-2009, 07:29 AM
As Marlon Starling once said after every defeat there is an injury.
Losfer_Words
07-31-2009, 08:24 AM
I doubt that mate
You obviously dont know who your talking too
GazOC has been around longer than all of us is - he is bloody ancient ;)
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:lol:
:lol: at that smiley. Excellent.
My thoughts exactly:lol:. Good one, Aztec:good.
Francis75
07-31-2009, 12:14 PM
Hatton lost to Floyd and Pacman because compared to them he is a shit boxer and those guys were in their prime P4P elite, simple as that. Hatton's skill level is not anywhere near those two. Imo Hatton has done very well in his career for the level of skill he possesses. He has won several world title belts and beaten some great names who were WELL past their best but all the same he did get those wins. It's just the constant BS that him and his dad keep going on with which draws the deluded naive fans in. His constant talk of fighting for the P4P title in the lead up to the Pacman fight was just utter nonsense and was insulting to Pacman and knowledgeable boxing fans. He is done now but if he persists with his nonsense then i would gladly watch him get humiliated again.
LocoRoco
07-31-2009, 12:29 PM
i dont think he blames the loss on the training camp, more like he blames how pathetic he was and how he got sparked in 2 rounds, which is prob bullshit anyways
Losfer_Words
07-31-2009, 12:30 PM
i dont think he blames the loss on the training camp, more like he blames how pathetic he was and how he got sparked in 2 rounds, which is prob bullshit anyways
Watch the interview, mate:good. It's not how he sees it.
sam1222
07-31-2009, 04:20 PM
Excuses, excuses :-(
Hatton could have took a bat in with him that night and the result would have still been the same.
DarkDestroyer83
07-31-2009, 04:27 PM
He ran straight into Pacquiao, one of the most ferocious fighters around. Ran straight into him with absolutely no defence and got smashed. He may have lasted longer if he didn't use those kamikaze tactics but I have no doubt Manny would have caught him eventually.
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