Khan's chin has improved by moving up in weight to 140

[Darni187]

I have been trying to point out for the last year that Khan at 135 was weight drained, and that was adding to his weak chin problem. Khan being 5'10 and being a big frame was too big for 135 where he was fighting for 4 years at that weight. Khan was being KD by natural super feather weight's, and people always used to point that out and say when he fights someone his own size and weight he will get KTFO. Yet he did vs Prescott but i think most lightweights got hit clean with them punches like Khan did would of got the same outcome. Then people said Khan got put down by Gomez a natural super feather, what will Kotelnik a true 140 fighter do when lands clean? The answer is nothing, Khan just took the shots with no problem. I am not saying Khan now has a good chin, but its better than before for sure. With his defence and movement improving under Roach the future looks good for Khan at his natural weight of 140.

[Mazallan]

Khan will be unstoppable at 140lb. No one can match his greatness. No wonder Hatton is in hiding.

[NO MAS]

I have mixed views on this..... I think that if he would have been doing the weight a bit better he would not have some of the issues he was having...... Prior to the Prescott fight he was always going on about his bodyfat percentage... and all his weight was around his shoulders..... by moving up, he has trimmed his shoulders and put that weight into his neck and legs... that is where it really matters when you are taking serious shots from fighters who can punch their weight IMO....:yep

I think that the best part of Amir Khan's defence is his ability to throw his fast shots whilst out of range.....he has good feet, that could be a bit better at times too... :good

I think that Khan will always have a weak chin... this may come from not been hit to often in the amateurs I don't know.... What Khan is in a position to be able to do is to have one of the best trainers in the World to be able to help him to protect that chin at the Championship level....:bbb

[Grant1]

I have been trying to point out for the last year that Khan at 135 was weight drained, and that was adding to his weak chin problem. Khan being 5'10 and being a big frame was too big for 135 where he was fighting for 4 years at that weight. Khan was being KD by natural super feather weight's, and people always used to point that out and say when he fights someone his own size and weight he will get KTFO. Yet he did vs Prescott but i think most lightweights got hit clean with them punches like Khan did would of got the same outcome. Then people said Khan got put down by Gomez a natural super feather, what will Kotelnik a true 140 fighter do when lands clean? The answer is nothing, Khan just took the shots with no problem. I am not saying Khan now has a good chin, but its better than before for sure. With his defence and movement improving under Roach the future looks good for Khan at his natural weight of 140.

Will you agree that what you've been saying all along is tosh if he moves back to 135 where he is 'weight-drained'?

[TheUnstoppable]

I dont understnad how adding FIVE WHOLE POUNDS to your frame magically lets you take punches better. Being weight drained is one thing, but going up 5lbs will only take you from 'drained' to 'uncomfortable'.

Proportioning his body better; having a stronger core and legs and not being top-heavy, may help take punches, generate more force etc, but no matter how big your/his legs get, being cracked straight on the chin or temple by even a mild punch will still spell disaster.

[ApatheticLeader]

I have been trying to point out for the last year that Khan at 135 was weight drained, and that was adding to his weak chin problem. Khan being 5'10 and being a big frame was too big for 135 where he was fighting for 4 years at that weight. Khan was being KD by natural super feather weight's, and people always used to point that out and say when he fights someone his own size and weight he will get KTFO. Yet he did vs Prescott but i think most lightweights got hit clean with them punches like Khan did would of got the same outcome. Then people said Khan got put down by Gomez a natural super feather, what will Kotelnik a true 140 fighter do when lands clean? The answer is nothing, Khan just took the shots with no problem. I am not saying Khan now has a good chin, but its better than before for sure. With his defence and movement improving under Roach the future looks good for Khan at his natural weight of 140.
I pointed out the same thing, although Khan won't be any world-beater even with his improved chin.

[SteelTownCobra]

Let's just wait and see how he takes a big right hand right on the button. Kotelnik hit him 2 or 3 times but Kotelnik isn't a banger and Khan was on his bike. Big difference between that and the Prescott KO.

[brown bomber]

Fluid= punch resistance

More fluid around the brain, less susceptability to be knocked out. However Craig Watson Vs Khan took place at 10st. Chicken dance followed.

Khans resistance may increase with age and experiance and weight. Like De la Hoya but he will never be Eubank.

[NO MAS]

Let's just wait and see how he takes a big right hand right on the button. Kotelnik hit him 2 or 3 times but Kotelnik isn't a banger and Khan was on his bike. Big difference between that and the Prescott KO.

I agree.. we are gonna have to weight and see....:yep

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I don't want to go on to much about Khan other than to say that I have seen significant weaknesses in him which tell me that he will get knocked out again. He needs to be very carefully matched.

[achillesthegreat]

Khan took a few shots that at 135 I think would wobble him. Gomez and Limond shots were good but not unbelievable yet they had disastrous effects. At 140, I'm sure Kotelnik has just as much dig as them.

I hope Khans chin has improved.

[brown bomber]

I don't want to go on to much about Khan other than to say that I have seen significant weaknesses in him which tell me that he will get knocked out again. He needs to be very carefully matched.Olu your not going down the Enzo Calzaghe 'magic eye' route are you.... ha ha. Did you ever find out the name of that song for me?

[nufc16]

i dont think his chin was ever as bad as some made out. it's poor, but he's taken flush shots early in his career and not been put down, granted by non big punchers, but the way people went on after the limond, then gomez and prescott knockdowns and ko, you'd think that any shot that hit him would have him on queer street.

he took a pretty good flush shot against komjathi early in his career and stood up to it. not sure if weight draining was ever a massive issue, as it never really got mentioned after the prescott defeat, which is normally the first thing that gets trotted out as an excuse.

he takes a better shot now as he's braced for them and has better defence to lessen the impact. test will come in future fights against more aggresive less predictable opponent than kotelnik.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu your not going down the Enzo Calzaghe 'magic eye' route are you.... ha ha. Did you ever find out the name of that song for me?

You will not believe that Ajose and I keep missing each other even last week in Lagos, Nigeria. I am going to send him a text now to find out.

[jc]

He hasnt fought a puncher which has caught him clean at 140. My guess he is still very vunreble.

[Losfer_Words]

As far as I'm concerned, it makes the bloke quite exciting to watch as you know anything can happen if he gets caught. That said, I think the move to 140 will benefit him:good.

[Darni187]

Will you agree that what you've been saying all along is tosh if he moves back to 135 where he is 'weight-drained'? You cant change the fact 140 is his natural weight, even Dr.Roach has said this and Khan aswell. But in boxing you can never say never.

[Grant1]

You cant change the fact 140 is his natural weight, even Freddie Roach has said this and Khan aswell. But in boxing you can never say never.

Fixed ^

[Rangersfan1982]

What a lot of nonsense. He's fought once at 140 and never been hit properly. He's still just a hyped up no body. I will reserve judgment on how good his chin is till he fights a decent fighter. Thats if he ever does.

[kosaros]

His chin may have improved a little bit, but not to a degree where he can take a flush punch from a big hitter in the division like Maidana, Ortiz and Hatton.

[Darni187]

The point i am trying to get across is Khan's chin has improved to a degree that he will not be getting KD from shots like the one vs Gomez and the shots vs Limond. Surely Kotelnik at 140 hits harder than them two.

Most fighters if got hit clean by fighters with KO power will go down not just Khan. Maidana got like 25win via KO from 26 fights, i am sure not all of them have got Glass chins.

[destruction]

Jabbing and running like a track star against Kotelnik proves nothing about his chin.

Lets see how well he does when he fights someone agressive who can deliver a shot, if he ever does is a doubt for me.

[KCD]

Khan didnt really get tested by Kotelnik in the sense that he was hit hard right on the button.

And imo i think when he was rushed at times he looked a little flustered and ive seen this as he was coming up, it was as though this is the Amir Khan show and you arent meant to be punching back.

But his speed is his major asset, and its a good one.

Im not a fan but you have to give respect for the way he handled Kotelnik, great game plan.

I dont think he will ever have a good chin or be a powerful puncher at 140 but with the assets he has i think he could do well if matched properly.

[trotter]

He has changed his style to avoid being hit

Tells you everything you need to know

[combo slice]

He has changed his style to avoid being hit

Tells you everything you need to know

isnt not being hit one of the main parts of boxing? All boxers try to avoid taking a clean shot e.g Hatton hitting and holding spoiling tactics. The aim of the game is to make it as difficult as possible for your opponent to land a clean shot on you. Why should khan let maidana or ortiz or whoever hit him clean on the jaw just to show the "haters" he can "take a shot". Even the calzaghes and eubanks tried their best not to get hit. nobody likes taking clean shots and prescott showed khan what happens if he doesnt protect himself properly in the ring.

[debaser]

He still has a glass chin but he now has a much better defence and is an all round more intelligent fighter. We will never see Khan go toe to toe again whilst Roach is at the helm. At some point, however, he will be caught and knocked out again. It's inevitable.

['Ben']

I think it has improved his punch resistance but I'm still not sure just how much by exactly? I always thought going up would be better for him in that regard though.

[SouthpawSlayer]

what a joke of a thread its plain to see his chin is still terrible, the move upo in weight was to escape 135 as it is shit hot unlike 140, ****** said it himself

[Mark55]

Dead simple here guys, you can't "improve" a fighters chin, he either can take a dig or he can't, similar to whether he can clean a guy out or not. You can work on everything else in the game except these two things. As for moving UP weights to make him less vunerable? I just can't get my head round that at all.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu your not going down the Enzo Calzaghe 'magic eye' route are you.... ha ha. Did you ever find out the name of that song for me?

Jeff the song is called "street credibility" sang by 9ce ft 2 face idibia.

[DON1]

lol. The kid has had 1 bloody fight at 140 against a featherfisted fighter and now he has an Iron chin?? Comical and quite embarrasing.

[ninebar]

Roach has changed a lot about Khan in a short time. they worked on his body shape after finding him to be too top heavy, brought him up to 140, and placed more emphasis on defence and giving him a sensible gameplan to win a World Title. There's still a lot of work to do with Khan but he seems to be responding to Roach and if he's carefully matched for the next two years will likely improve further. Personally i don't like the new improved Khan i find it a bit boring but good luck to the kid he has come back well from the Prescott fight.

[Darni187]

lol. The kid has had 1 bloody fight at 140 against a featherfisted fighter and now he has an Iron chin?? Comical and quite embarrasing.

Yeah and you are the same guy who said Kotelnik will KO Khan before the fight.

And can you read? no one is saying he has an iron chin.

[kerrminator]

Khan is now a world champ so if he faces world class opposition all the way from here on in then we can all say he is the real deal but if his people pick and choose his opponents for him and try and pull the wool over our eyes then we will know he is still a 'kid mae oaner' (scottish phrase lol )

I reckon his chin is shite and thats why he is a hit and run guy, usually against the lightest punching guys of the 135-140 division but if he shows the courage of a warrior and faces all comers then we have no choice but to give him props but in my honest opinion he will face the easiest opponents available, but thats just me lol

[Dan684]

^ fair assesment ^ The way I see it is he's taken a gamble now winning that belt because he cannot avoid them all now. As world champ he should be fighting the top guys or at the very least top 10 guys which is where eventually we will see him having to test his chin/defense and we'll find out what his resolve is all about when he's in trouble

[mughalmirza786]

Khans chin has definately improved with the weight. Theres a simple way of showing this.

Q: Would Gomez's cuffing shot which knocked amir down at 135 have knocked him down at 140?
A: No

Q: Would Kotelnik have put amir on his ass over the course of 12 with some of the shots he landed at 135?
A: Yes

Q: Does kotelnik punch harder, and operate at a higher level than limond, gomez and the other guys that knocked amir down?
A: Yes

Conclusion: Amir chin has now become average which means him can hold a shot to avoid being knocked down, but would probably still be koed by a puncher.

However Khan is only 22, as Darni pointed out earlier he wont hit his for another 4-6 years. Will he become even more sturdier as he physically matures? Only time will tell how far Freddie can take khans potential.

[TheUzi]

Wrong conclusion^^^^

His chin is not average......it has improved tho

["TKO"]

isnt not being hit one of the main parts of boxing? All boxers try to avoid taking a clean shot e.g Hatton hitting and holding spoiling tactics. The aim of the game is to make it as difficult as possible for your opponent to land a clean shot on you. Why should khan let maidana or ortiz or whoever hit him clean on the jaw just to show the "haters" he can "take a shot". Even the calzaghes and eubanks tried their best not to get hit. nobody likes taking clean shots and prescott showed khan what happens if he doesnt protect himself properly in the ring.

I agree with this. No fighter wants to take flush punches (except maybe Gatti and Ward in their pomps). I don't blame any fighter for wanting to avoid taking shots where at all possible. However, at some point he is likely to have to take a shot on the chin flush from a decent banger. Moving up may well help his punches resistance as being drained never did anyone any good. However, I am still to be convinced that it is some sort of magic bullet which will sort all his problems out (I hope I am wrong). There is no other option really, he cannot realistically stay away from any fighter who can punch his whole career (the boxing world would soon "smell a rat") and nor is he realistically going to be able to take all those fights on without ever getting hit flush. I guess what I am saying is I won't be totally convinced until he takes a fight with a top 140lber who can punch and comes through it.

[Mazallan]

Fortunetly 140 is piss weak and has been awful since Kostya was in his prime. Khan can sit around there for a few years beating average opponents like Alexander/Judah/Hatton/McCloskey and the rest before trying to really step up in class and fight a great fighter.

[widdy]

lets not get overexcited about khans chin,we all know its shit,i agree with darni thats its improved a bit but not much,remember he was getting knocked over by feather/superfeathers,not lightweights or lightwelters,the 1st banger he fought,night night,sleep tight sweetlips.

koltinik was not a known banger,i put money on him not having many 1 punch ko's,a bit like khan really,not a auful lot of power,but shit fast hands.(i know koltinik aint got fast hands:good)

i was impresed the way he fought,has he improved,yes,at keeping well away,quick bursts and out,but most lww are a lot faster and bang harder than koltinik,and will catch up with khan,this is why warran got khan the fight,world title,more dosh,a defence against weak oppornents,more money,then bang he outa there,even ****** can't keep the wolves from the door forever:hey