View Full Version : Anyone else get sad during Clottey vs Corrales?
I just rewatched it... and idk... i just get sad watching Corrales getting taken apart like that. Not sure exactly what it is.... anyone else feel like that during the fight? Its more then me just rooting for him during the fight, its just that... I hated seeing this warrior that has already been through so much in the ring, given us so many good wars and just.... is the definition of warrior, being taken apart by Clottey. Wanted to see him go out on a high note, but then again, someone like corrales, who fights till the death... would have done that im sure, and would never have had a good ending anyways.
Wilhelm
09-09-2007, 10:29 PM
Hmmm...there's something funny about this thread but I'm not sure what it is...
jonesjrp4p1
09-09-2007, 10:40 PM
i hate watching clottey vs clottey.......i thought clottey was gonna kill clottey...haha
the_what
09-09-2007, 10:44 PM
Even know I havent seen the fight in its entirety. Im a big Corrales fan and after 6 rounds it was to much for me. Corrales was way out of his league in this fight. He was weak and had no handspeed. He should have never taken the fight to begin with.
BTW this and the Margarito fight have clearly overratted Clottey.
Motor City Sam
09-09-2007, 10:54 PM
I read the title and thought, "When did Emmanuel Clottey and Joshua Clottey fight? And what was sad about it?"
As for the fight in question, I didn't feel any worse for Corrales than I do for anyone on the receiving end of a beatdown like that. If you are a big fan of Diego's, I can see why it would be hard to watch.
andyZOR
09-09-2007, 11:13 PM
i hate watching clottey vs clottey.......i thought clottey was gonna kill clottey...haha
I thought the same.
LOL!!!!
just cought it.... happend cuz at first i put corrales vs clottey, but then realised i should put the winner first and replaced corrales with clottey, without doing the latter.
Amsterdam
09-09-2007, 11:35 PM
Yes, I was sad. I was sad knowing that a second rater like Clottey was about to get credit as if he was some destructive elite fighter that only the 'cool guys' has insight on.
At least Clottey managed to show us what he really is, and what observant fans already knew, vs. the last tomato can that he fought.
A shame a battered Corrales had to the medium, but that's not as heart breaking as the overrating of a second rate gate keeper level fighter in my opinion.
brooklyn1550
09-09-2007, 11:59 PM
I felt sad watching a great warrior take a bad beating. After that fight, I knew Corrales didn't have much left.
Illmatic
09-10-2007, 12:00 AM
his career was over after winning the greatest fight of all time. that fight took way too much out of him
brooklyn1550
09-10-2007, 12:11 AM
his career was over after winning the greatest fight of all time. that fight took way too much out of him
Absolutely
It ruined Castillo as well
compukiller
09-10-2007, 12:32 AM
his career was over after winning the greatest fight of all time. that fight took way too much out of him
Nearly everything was gone after Castillo starched him in the rematch. I knew it was WAAAAAAYYY to soon for Chico to go right back in with Castillo. That was truly awful, and I think put the period on the end of Chico's career.
brimey
09-10-2007, 01:13 AM
I think every fighters career almost always ends the same way- a shell of yourself being beaten to a pulp by a younger or less battle worn fighter. Ali, Louis, Tyson etc etc etc. We just saw it recently with Arturo Gatti. Its just the nature of the beast... ATTN Holyfield. Another bad ending could be coming for another great warrior.
Executioner
09-10-2007, 01:24 AM
The beating Clottey gave him was horrible. When I read on Fightnews that the fight was signed I thought 'the fuck, is he crazy?"
R.I.P
liljp361
09-10-2007, 02:31 AM
He is in heaven now.
KhanB
09-10-2007, 03:12 AM
I knew Corrales picked the wrong fighter before it started. You either have to be crazy or brave to have Clottey as your first fight after jumping up two weight divisions. One of the worst beatdowns in recent memory IMO.
duran83
09-10-2007, 10:02 AM
Yeah it did, people seem to forget Castillo got ruined that night too.
Wow thats funny because he didnt looked runied when he sparked Corrales out in the rematch he looked sharp as fuck.
thewoo
09-10-2007, 10:16 AM
I don't think that him getting beat on so badly had anything to do with the Castillo fight. I think that it was more so because he was at such a much higher weight. He had been draining down to 135 for years and as a result he was fighting guys that were a lot smaller than him. He picked a large, strong guy 2 weight classes above his best weight class. That is why he was beaten so badly.
jexdd
09-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Corrales was certainly a double sided coin .. Brave Warrior but also was convicted of spousal abuse .. A loyal fighter for Shaw but then signs w/ Golden Boy.. Then one year to the date of Corrales / Castillo I, from giving the performance of his life to drving mashed out on a motorcycle.
One thing that really must've upset him a week or two before his death was the fact he was vastly in debt and given everything of himself to this sport unnoticed .. Meanwhile he witnessed multi-million dollar sparring session... DLH / Mayweather.
Motor City Sam
09-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Corrales was certainly a double sided coin .. Brave Warrior but also was convicted of spousal abuse .. A loyal fighter for Shaw but then signs w/ Golden Boy.. Then one year to the date of Corrales / Castillo I, from giving the performance of his life to drving mashed out on a motorcycle.
One thing that really must've upset him a week or two before his death was the fact he was vastly in debt and given everything of himself to this sport unnoticed .. Meanwhile he witnessed multi-million dollar sparring session... DLH / Mayweather.
I liked watching Corrales in the ring and wished he wouldn't have lost his life in that accident, but tying his depression to the Mayweather/DLH fight is a little much, don't you think? Corrales had every opportunity that Mayweather had to be a star; he just isn't as good as Floyd. Plus, Corrales money problems were mostly his own fault. He lost two years worth of fights and paydays because of going to jail for beating up his wife. If he was depressed about the shape his life was in, I doubt the DLH/Mayweather fight was part of the reason why.
freddy-wak
09-10-2007, 01:57 PM
fuck yeah i was sad deep down inside...but at the same time glad to see corrales showing other boxers how it's done.....
some fighters fight JUST to win...others fight cause thats all they know
PolishPummler
09-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Yeah it was hard to watch.
Taking on Clottey for his first fight at a new weight class i knew was a bad move.
KhanB
09-10-2007, 03:30 PM
Corrales was certainly a double sided coin .. Brave Warrior but also was convicted of spousal abuse .. A loyal fighter for Shaw but then signs w/ Golden Boy.. Then one year to the date of Corrales / Castillo I, from giving the performance of his life to drving mashed out on a motorcycle.
One thing that really must've upset him a week or two before his death was the fact he was vastly in debt and given everything of himself to this sport unnoticed .. Meanwhile he witnessed multi-million dollar sparring session... DLH / Mayweather.
I think i understand where your coming. The severity with which he beat his ex wife always made me think poorly of his anger management issues. Its not like he just slapped her. Only now i would even mention that because after he died it seemed people were trying to rewrite his history and it was and probably is a tender subject for people to talk about even though we can now all talk about Sonny Liston's demons without starting a arguement. I think the career ending beatdown Clottey gave him was more depressing for him than DLH/ May.
Motor City Sam
09-10-2007, 03:38 PM
I think i understand where your coming. The severity with which he beat his ex wife always made me think poorly of his anger management issues. Its not like he just slapped her. Only now i would even mention that because after he died it seemed people were trying to rewrite his history and it was and probably is a tender subject for people to talk about even though we can now all talk about Sonny Liston's demons without starting a arguement. I think the career ending beatdown Clottey gave him was more depressing for him than DLH/ May.
Well said, Khan.
Motor City Sam
09-10-2007, 04:01 PM
So who ruined him then?
I think Castillo was ruined by a combination of age, the wars he had been in, and the abuse he had put his body through to make weight. The long layoff after the second Corrales fight didn't help, either. He looked very diminished in his first fight at 140 and looked shot from the start in the Hatton fight. (I'm not taking anything away from Hatton's victory.) I think it was a combination of things that affected Castillo, more so than the Corrales fights alone.
jexdd
09-10-2007, 05:34 PM
... I think the career ending beatdown Clottey gave him was more depressing for him than DLH/ May.
I agree, but look at what he was paid for that fight and what he took in terms of punishment always giving 100% and fighting with sheer will.. he never got the respect he deserved in terms of $. He was on the wrong side of the fence of 'Prize-fighter' .. whereas when DLH has no chance of winning he goes down on a poke in the ribs (if you can punch the canvas you can get up) and collects his check.
The DLH / Corrales contrast reminds me of 'Forest Gump' winning the Oscar over 'Pulp Fiction'!
:D
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