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HairyHighlander
08-04-2009, 03:52 PM
Any of you dip under punches etc rather than lean back/side-step ?

I been doing this on pads recently and always tried it in sparring but not in fights, always felt like a sitting duck.

Instinct just had me lean back, side step with a jab or hook.


Any one do it or any links to lanky dippers ?

GPater11093
08-04-2009, 04:48 PM
I do it in sparring im pretty slick when i do it aswell. It confuses your oppoent but then agin im always sparring taller lads

Perky300
08-04-2009, 04:52 PM
you shouldn't lean back.....cos you can only lean back so far then you gotta come forward....and eventually a good fighter will time this and you will get tagged

bobalachko
08-04-2009, 04:54 PM
Has to be a dip the knees straight right hand to the body for me kid

TheRock49
08-04-2009, 05:08 PM
I dip if they're as tall or taller than me. Not often the case though so I just use head movement, range and am very good at distance.

Kolya
08-04-2009, 06:02 PM
It works. I'm 6'4, I never fight people shorter than me. If you bend your knees and get low you can really dip and roll under your opponents punches and make them miss; although I think dipping straight down is best used for hooks. I typically slip and bob with a straight punch if I'm getting low.

HairyHighlander
08-04-2009, 06:13 PM
It works. I'm 6'4, I never fight people shorter than me. If you bend your knees and get low you can really dip and roll under your opponents punches and make them miss; although I think dipping straight down is best used for hooks. I typically slip and bob with a straight punch if I'm getting low.

Aye, i tend to dip at knees, not rounding shoulders. Just when i roll right to come up for a str8 right then a hook say, feels strange.

I see people mention against taller, i meant me being taller against shorter fighters.

Of course they are still firing at my head height so regardless of height i can or should be able to dip it.

Will just stick to using range, stick n move and tie up inside.

Kolya
08-04-2009, 06:15 PM
Aye, i tend to dip at knees, not rounding shoulders. Just when i roll right to come up for a str8 right then a hook say, feels strange.

I see people mention against taller, i meant me being taller against shorter fighters.

Of course they are still firing at my head height so regardless of height i can or should be able to dip it.

Will just stick to using range, stick n move and tie up inside.

Being a tall guy; I think this is a sound strategy for anyone tall. But don't get too used to tying up. I would work on your footwork and use of angles so they can't get on your chest so easily. Tying up too much will get you in trouble in the amateurs.

HairyHighlander
08-04-2009, 06:18 PM
you shouldn't lean back.....cos you can only lean back so far then you gotta come forward....and eventually a good fighter will time this and you will get tagged

Yeah true, they will step in more etc....

I "try" to rip off a combo then lean back and wing a long left hook, if they comn in or not. More a defensive punch

Getting off the right uppercut if they come inside and i miss with the hook is a problem.

HairyHighlander
08-04-2009, 06:19 PM
Being a tall guy; I think this is a sound strategy for anyone tall. But don't get too used to tying up. I would work on your footwork and use of angles so they can't get on your chest so easily. Tying up too much will get you in trouble in the amateurs.

True, they dont like it.

I usually wanna turn them or punch out to range again rather than be inside.

Easier said than done.

GPater11093
08-04-2009, 06:25 PM
It works. I'm 6'4, I never fight people shorter than me. If you bend your knees and get low you can really dip and roll under your opponents punches and make them miss; although I think dipping straight down is best used for hooks. I typically slip and bob with a straight punch if I'm getting low.

what weight are you?

Being a tall guy; I think this is a sound strategy for anyone tall. But don't get too used to tying up. I would work on your footwork and use of angles so they can't get on your chest so easily. Tying up too much will get you in trouble in the amateurs.

I think a tall fighter should devlop an inside game it can be really effective

Kolya
08-04-2009, 06:42 PM
I'm 75kg, 165.

GPater11093
08-04-2009, 07:04 PM
I'm 75kg, 165.

:shock:

6'4 is huge

Kolya
08-04-2009, 07:43 PM
:shock:

6'4 is huge



:lol: I get that a lot.

colin7878
08-04-2009, 09:05 PM
I like to lean back i know i shouldnt tho lol but i can get away with it due to height and reach

Kolya
08-04-2009, 09:15 PM
I like to lean back i know i shouldnt tho lol but i can get away with it due to height and reach


Ali did that. You should see what Joe Frazier did when he timed it.

colin7878
08-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Ali did that. You should see what Joe Frazier did when he timed it.

yeah lol :D just glad the guys i spar with in my weight class (130-135lb) give up after one round. It sucks sparing against guys my own height who are 160 up lol they punch harder :bbb

Kolya
08-04-2009, 09:37 PM
yeah lol :D just glad the guys i spar with in my weight class (130-135lb) give up after one round. It sucks sparing against guys my own height who are 160 up lol they punch harder :bbb


How tall are you?

colin7878
08-04-2009, 09:48 PM
How tall are you?

6ft and i am the shortest guy in my family :lol:

Kolya
08-04-2009, 10:15 PM
Jeesh. I have a friend who's 6' and fights at 132. He doesn't really do the lean back though.

FM3O
08-04-2009, 11:38 PM
3) I would assume so at least a decent amount of the time. I know Andre Ward whose from my city won the gold medal a few years back at 178lbs. In the pros he fights at SMW (168lbs). However part of the reason could have been his olympic team had a very good 165 lber.

Kolya
08-05-2009, 12:13 AM
3) I would assume so at least a decent amount of the time. I know Andre Ward whose from my city won the gold medal a few years back at 178lbs. In the pros he fights at SMW (168lbs). However part of the reason could have been his olympic team had a very good 165 lber.

I think Dirrell was at 165 in 2004. Andre's speed and mobility helped him at 178 anyway.