Welliver picks Cameron to win.

[Charles White]

I spoke with Chauncy Welliver the other night and he goes down to NZ to spar with Shane Cameron in a couple of weeks. I asked him who he has winning the fight between Cameron and Tua and he predicts that Cameron will take this fight in a real war.

[ashley]

I spoke with Chauncy Welliver the other night and he goes down to NZ to spar with Shane Cameron in a couple of weeks. I asked him who he has winning the fight between Cameron and Tua and he predicts that Cameron will take this fight in a real war.

Tend to agree that Cameron should be quicker and fresher......however if Tua catches him sweet then its good night :yep

[Charles White]

Tend to agree that Cameron should be quicker and fresher......however if Tua catches him sweet then its good night :yep:yep I agree.:bbb

[ashley]

If it wasn't some unwritten law in boxing I would ask you to get your mate Chauncey to spill the beans on the sparring sessions.....I know he's not able to make the info public but you can PM me :D I wont tell everybody.....I mean anybody :yep

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

The outcome of this fight's gonna depend a hell of a lot more on David Tua than Shane Cameron IMO.

At 31 Cameron should be at the peak of his powers, is coming off 4 goods wins and will turn up fit and ready to fight.

Tua, at 36 and not famous for his fitness, hasn't fought for nearly two years and only fought 3 rounds in the six months preceeding that = inactive for too long.

The way I see it Tua's got 12 x 3's to nail Cameron. The longer it goes the better for Cameron, and if they hear the final bell it'll be Cameron by wide points over a very tired Tua.

Whose gonna win depends on which Tua turns up - if he still has the KO capacity he'll stop Cameron inside 7 IMO. If it's an over-the-hill (and then surely a finished) version of Tua, then it's Cameron.

[Charles White]

If it wasn't some unwritten law in boxing I would ask you to get your mate Chauncey to spill the beans on the sparring sessions.....I know he's not able to make the info public but you can PM me :D I wont tell everybody.....I mean anybody :yep:lol::good

[Charles White]

If it wasn't some unwritten law in boxing I would ask you to get your mate Chauncey to spill the beans on the sparring sessions.....I know he's not able to make the info public but you can PM me :D I wont tell everybody.....I mean anybody :yep. He believes that he will be the deciding factor in the Tua/Cameron fight as he will give Cameron some awesome sparring. Also, Chauncy has been offered 5 different fights for this undercard. From no names to guys like Hopoate, Haumono, Leapei, etc. He hasn't agreed to any of them yet. Says he will have to see how much he wants to put in after so much sparring and such.

[ashley]

He is currently sparring Marco Huck over in Germany. He told me about those sparring sessions :hey. He believes that he will be the deciding factor in the Tua/Cameron fight as he will give Cameron some awesome sparring. Also, Chauncy has been offered 5 different fights for this undercard. From no names to guys like Hopoate, Haumono, Leapei, etc. He hasn't agreed to any of them yet. Says he will have to see how much he wants to put in after so much sparring and such.

Hope he gets back in the ring soon....lest he will be fit....love to see him fight the top aussies :good

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

He is currently sparring Marco Huck over in Germany. He told me about those sparring sessions :hey. He believes that he will be the deciding factor in the Tua/Cameron fight as he will give Cameron some awesome sparring. Also, Chauncy has been offered 5 different fights for this undercard. From no names to guys like Hopoate, Haumono, Leapei, etc. He hasn't agreed to any of them yet. Says he will have to see how much he wants to put in after so much sparring and such.

Read that Hoppa is now confirmed for this card and obviously looking for an opponent Charles.

[Charles White]

Hope he gets back in the ring soon....lest he will be fit....love to see him fight the top aussies :goodAs would I. He is a great guy with some good skills. However, i am sad to report that he is heavier than I have ever known him to be right now. He said he was 290 lbs. But that weight will start to shed now that he is in some intense sparring and what not.

[Charles White]

Read that Hoppa is now confirmed for this card and obviously looking for an opponent Charles.:yep Chauncy was offered the fight, but I doubt he will take it. I have a strange (and sad) feeling that my friend Chauncy is no longer wanting to fight. So many good opportunities are being thrown at him, but he is just not interested it seems. We will see.

[ashley]

As would I. He is a great guy with some good skills. However, i am sad to report that he is heavier than I have ever known him to be right now. He said he was 290 lbs. But that weight will start to shed now that he is in some intense sparring and what not.

Yeah right....how many rounds does he do with Marco in a row?

[Charles White]

Yeah right....how many rounds does he do with Marco in a row?Lol, gotta love Chauncy, but he isn't the most fit. He actually didn't mention how many rounds, but he doesn't go across the world for nothing. Many rounds is my guess.

[Darkshark]

Question - Why would you bring in Chauncy to prepare for Tua? I know Chaucy will give Cameron some great rounds - but at the end of the day those rounds would better prepare Cameron for a boxer, which lets face it Tua is not.
At the end of the day I dont see Cameron getting very far in this fight, purely and simply becaue of his style. If he could switch it up and box behind the jab he would have done it against Ahunanya, and I've seen nothing out of Cameron since then to indicate he's ready or able to step up further than he has already.
Cameron's defense has argueably gone downhill since the Ahunanya fight - Robert Davis had him wobbled a couple of times but ran out of gas.
Perhaps Cameron will start out trying to box Tua, but at some point he's going to get tagged, and when Cameron gets tagged he tends to revert to what he knows (this is what happened late in the Ahunanya fight also) - go forward and bully the other guy. Well this time there's going to be a bigger bully in the ring.
Tua KO 5

[Charles White]

Question - Why would you bring in Chauncy to prepare for Tua? I know Chaucy will give Cameron some great rounds - but at the end of the day those rounds would better prepare Cameron for a boxer, which lets face it Tua is not.
At the end of the day I dont see Cameron getting very far in this fight, purely and simply becaue of his style. If he could switch it up and box behind the jab he would have done it against Ahunanya, and I've seen nothing out of Cameron since then to indicate he's ready or able to step up further than he has already.
Cameron's defense has argueably gone downhill since the Ahunanya fight - Robert Davis had him wobbled a couple of times but ran out of gas.
Perhaps Cameron will start out trying to box Tua, but at some point he's going to get tagged, and when Cameron gets tagged he tends to revert to what he knows (this is what happened late in the Ahunanya fight also) - go forward and bully the other guy. Well this time there's going to be a bigger bully in the ring.
Tua KO 5It didn't really make sense to me either, bringing in Chauncy to spar for a Tua type match, but who I am I to question their methods?

[stormy]

If Tua is shot Cameron will win. If Tua is not shot he will stop the man before 4 rounds is up.

[melbboy]

If Tua is shot Cameron will win. If Tua is not shot he will stop the man before 4 rounds is up.:huh in plain english please

[diehard]

Chauncy, if you're reading this, or Charles White: do you know who else Cameron will have for sparring besides Chauncy?

[Charles White]

Chauncy, if you're reading this, or Charles White: do you know who else Cameron will have for sparring besides Chauncy?I don't believe Chauncy looks at ESB posts anymore my friend. Im not sure who else Cameron will be sparring, but I will ask Chauncy.

[diehard]

Thanks Charles!

[The Tuaman]

Quite simply Camerons team are a bunch of muppets and always have been. Chauncy will help Cameron get hard rounds in but thats about it. Also Hoppa, Sol and Leapai are not big names only in Australia.

Also Roger Bloodworth has landed to train Tua for the next 8 weeks. Cameron is still using his trainer from his disgraceful fight against Robert Davis. Davis was almost begging to be KO'd but Shane couldnt put him away! Basically Shanes training team are amatuers..............David is using professionals............that could be the difference.

TUA TKO6

[shamrockrhino]

Quite simply Camerons team are a bunch of muppets and always have been. Chauncy will help Cameron get hard rounds in but thats about it. Also Hoppa, Sol and Leapai are not big names only in Australia.

Also Roger Bloodworth has landed to train Tua for the next 8 weeks. Cameron is still using his trainer from his disgraceful fight against Robert Davis. Davis was almost begging to be KO'd but Shane couldnt put him away! Basically Shanes training team are amatuers..............David is using professionals............that could be the difference.

TUA TKO6I think Leapai and Tua are samoan brothers who'd never fight each other but I'll love to see Samoans top 3 fighters Tua,Leapai & Tauasa take on Tongans best Haumono,Bowie,Hoppa & Vea.

SAMOA v TONGA in league,union now boxing

what are thoughts? that'll be the best Pacific fight card you can get.

[shamrockrhino]

Chauncy, if you're reading this, or Charles White: do you know who else Cameron will have for sparring besides Chauncy?I think leapai should spar cameron he's the closest that comes to Tua with sparring and it'll be a good sparring session & experience for Leapai.

[Charles White]

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