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ashley
08-08-2009, 05:28 AM
What's happened to all the Danny Green fans? :huh

Its a huge week in Greens life with another world title fight next week.

I know he's not fighting one of the top 5 CW's but its still a big event.

If he wins in the states next week a huge fight with RJJ looks like it could be made late this year.

I know this is not champagne or purist boxing however its great for the profile of aussie boxing

So why's everybody bagging him and the fight? :conf

T.C.W
08-08-2009, 05:56 AM
He is talking to must shit about how good he is, Most people who post here are hardcore boxing fans and know hell of alot about the sport and this title fight is a joke because, this guy he is fighting has not got one name on his record and he is not even a top 30 fighter at 200 pounds, So at best the fight is an internation bout. Him talking about Jeff career and his own in the same sentence, has upset a few people/

shanemfr
08-08-2009, 06:18 AM
Mainly in his earlier days etc he had boxing fans, not the type that were mundine fans and knew fuck all about boxing, we soon realised he was just a money milking clown and was soon abandoned instead of trying to defend his bullshit.

ashley
08-08-2009, 06:44 AM
Yeah....I know what your saying....boxing has no place for trash talking money hungry fighters :lol:

flamengo
08-08-2009, 07:21 AM
After this bout, the fans will be out in force to see him tackle Jones jnr in Melb... Not a great deal being payed to this one as its a walk in the park for Green..

shanemfr
08-08-2009, 07:31 AM
Yeah....I know what your saying....boxing has no place for trash talking money hungry fighters :lol:
Boxing has a place for trash talk, when the guys that say it follow it up in the ring, like Vic, Katsidis etc that takes on anyone to truely test themselves.

ashley
08-08-2009, 07:54 AM
Boxing has a place for trash talk, when the guys that say it follow it up in the ring, like Vic, Katsidis etc that takes on anyone to truely test themselves.

Dont you think Green fighting RJJ is a huge fight for Green that he just cant win? :huh

I mean we are talking HOF RJJ!......hes going to dance round Green and win a wide UD without much trouble.

How is Green not backing his mouth up?

Even RJJ of today has way too much for Green and hes gotta know that :deal

Huge props to Green if he jumps in the ring with RJJ.

shanemfr
08-08-2009, 09:18 AM
Dont you think Green fighting RJJ is a huge fight for Green that he just cant win? :huh

I mean we are talking HOF RJJ!......hes going to dance round Green and win a wide UD without much trouble.

How is Green not backing his mouth up?

Even RJJ of today has way too much for Green and hes gotta know that :deal

Huge props to Green if he jumps in the ring with RJJ.
You serious? RJJ has no legs or footwork, which was the main part of his reflexes, as soon as anyone starts hitting him he now just stands there like a punching bag he doesn't have any defense technique these days with the reflexes gone, he is now made for a guy like Green, he will take a beating for cash these days, hence why green is keen to get hold of him and make it out like a huge win.

sambo1987
08-08-2009, 09:33 AM
You serious? RJJ has no legs or footwork, which was the main part of his reflexes, as soon as anyone starts hitting him he now just stands there like a punching bag he doesn't have any defense technique these days with the reflexes gone, he is now made for a guy like Green, he will take a beating for cash these days, hence why green is keen to get hold of him and make it out like a huge win.

Agree.

I think Green will put RJJ away. RJJ is way over the hill, Calz carried him and Green won't.

ashley
08-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Green beating RJJ.......:rofl

RJJ will use his hand speed to pick Green off at will.

flamengo
08-08-2009, 10:03 AM
the betting odds wil be interesting............

TheDuke
08-08-2009, 10:30 AM
In this day and age how can you be a 'fan' of a boxer unless they continue to fight the best they can secure. This is where i disagree with your attitude to Mundine. You say you'll support him even though he avoids the best fights. I'm a Parra tragic, but if they were allowed to play Cronulla every week and claim they were the champs I would jump ship with no ethical dilemma.

one in a million
08-08-2009, 10:50 AM
Domiguez, Jones jnr then Tarver if he is serious about testing his strength and ability....or is just for the $$$$$.

Dr Gonzo
08-08-2009, 11:17 AM
some of you cunts are crazy... rjj at 65 beats green all day long

one in a million
08-08-2009, 11:19 AM
What does VRMC stand for?

flamengo
08-08-2009, 11:22 AM
What does VRMC stand for?

bongin' on are we????

one in a million
08-08-2009, 11:24 AM
bongin' on are we????

vrwc kma...?

PorkChopExpress
08-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Alot has to come together to get RJJ to fight Green here. Even with the press conference, the 2 fights coming up and the "guarantee" wins for both of them.

I will watch Green fight this guy next week, and I'll watch him fight RJJ, but in the same way I'd watch Hoppa vs Big Bob again if it was on Superboxer - simply cuz I'm an aussie boxing fan.

What I will watch eagerly is Green vs a true titlist or elite fighter in the division.

ashley
08-08-2009, 07:17 PM
some of you cunts are crazy... rjj at 65 beats green all day long

:deal

ashley
08-08-2009, 07:37 PM
In this day and age how can you be a 'fan' of a boxer unless they continue to fight the best they can secure. This is where i disagree with your attitude to Mundine. You say you'll support him even though he avoids the best fights. I'm a Parra tragic, but if they were allowed to play Cronulla every week and claim they were the champs I would jump ship with no ethical dilemma.

Sorry to hear that Duke......it must take its toll on you supporting Parra :yep

I am a boxing fan not a purist :lol:

I am happy watching Frank LoPorto, cool Willie and Zappa go round....they are not fighting world titles....nor are they fighting the best.

If I was waiting for purist champagne boxing I would see 5 fights each year......what's the fun in that :huh:-(

Besides I support the best fighter in the world anyway.....everyday is a good day :yep

perfect jet
08-08-2009, 07:54 PM
I see alot of Choc in Danny these days.

ashley
08-08-2009, 07:57 PM
I see alot of Choc in Danny these days.

Mundine has taught Green how to promote and make money......Greens going to do this all the time now :lol:

stiflers mum
08-08-2009, 10:03 PM
What's happened to all the Danny Green fans? :huh

Its a huge week in Greens life with another world title fight next week.

I know he's not fighting one of the top 5 CW's but its still a big event.

If he wins in the states next week a huge fight with RJJ looks like it could be made late this year.

I know this is not champagne or purist boxing however its great for the profile of aussie boxing

So why's everybody bagging him and the fight? :conf
speaking for myself i stopped being a fan when he made the Danny Green Story on fox after he retired.he came off as a cry baby wanker making excuses for his losses giving his opponents no credit and that crying to his Dad when he hung up the gloves was pathetic.but low and behold he stepped out of a helicopter 12 months later to challenge Mundine to a fight at LHW when he had a fight 2 divisions below at MW.:-(:-(.
i didnt watch his return bout but i will watch this one just to see RJJ v Lacy but hopefully like hoppa and Tupou he will be the third aussie KTFO going over to america.

stiflers mum
08-08-2009, 10:14 PM
What I will watch eagerly is Green vs a true titlist or elite fighter in the division.
when he won the WBA LHW he retired because he had something the good fighters in the division wanted.if he beats this guy and wins the IBO cruiserweight title do you think hes going to chase Adamek for a fight?:lol::lol:

PorkChopExpress
08-08-2009, 11:00 PM
I think you took that sentence with more than a grain of salt. I don't expect it's going to happen - that's where my apathy to these fights come from. If I believe it would lead to a real title fight or a fight with a top 5 fighter I would be much more exited.

Like Ash, I'll watch boxing til the cows come home... (and I aint got no cows)... but I will not hold my breath while these Aussie's go around thinking they're true champs like Vic or even Kats in my opinion.

I've been a fan of Mundine and Green since they both laced them up.. ten years on or how ever long it's been, you just feel a little jaded about them both...

Green however, does seem like the one who's less afraid to challenge himself - uptil the retirement fiasco that is.

Now the REAL thread topic should be: What's happened to all the Katsidis and Vic fans???

Unfortunately one suffered a loss and the other hasn't fought in a while. Hopefully both of those things change.. STAT!

THN
08-08-2009, 11:54 PM
What's happened to all the Danny Green fans? :huh

Its a huge week in Greens life with another world title fight next week.

I know he's not fighting one of the top 5 CW's but its still a big event.

If he wins in the states next week a huge fight with RJJ looks like it could be made late this year.

I know this is not champagne or purist boxing however its great for the profile of aussie boxing

So why's everybody bagging him and the fight? :conf

Bc. they dont want to support a cash cow, unlike the Mouthdine fans who swallow anything.:deal

ashley
08-09-2009, 03:35 AM
Bc. they dont want to support a cash cow, unlike the Mouthdine fans who swallow anything.:deal


It would be a lot easier if you just admitted that you are a Mundine fan.....all these posts about Mundine :think

I know you shit yourself when Kessler fought Mundine and after 12 rounds you were just as surprised as Kessler was that he won. :hey

Come on mate....its time to get out of the closet....spread the love......not hate :D

Hmmm
08-09-2009, 07:46 AM
Green HASNT beaten Dominiguez yet. Yes it seems like a "walk in the park" fight, but I never really rated Green's ability all that high, so there is a good chance that Dominiguez could trouble Green.

As most posters have already mentioned, the ppl that post here are true boxing fans and see straight through Green. I think Green is still on a mission to outdo Mundine and thats why he's taking on Roy. So far anything Green's done has had Mundine plastered all over it. This fight is no different.

Green would have had tonns more fans had he not retired after doing nothing to grab Drews title and then retiring before defending his title even ONCE. That was his biggest mistake ever and he is still paying for it....

ashley
08-09-2009, 07:52 AM
Green HASNT beaten Dominiguez yet. Yes it seems like a "walk in the park" fight, but I never really rated Green's ability all that high, so there is a good chance that Dominiguez could trouble Green.

As most posters have already mentioned, the ppl that post here are true boxing fans and see straight through Green. I think Green is still on a mission to outdo Mundine and thats why he's taking on Roy. So far anything Green's done has had Mundine plastered all over it. This fight is no different.

Green would have had tonns more fans had he not retired after doing nothing to grab Drews title and then retiring before defending his title even ONCE. That was his biggest mistake ever and he is still paying for it....

What I have seen of Domenguez is that he can bang, has power in both hands and can take a punch.....Green dont have the title just yet:deal

Francis75
08-09-2009, 09:11 AM
I envisage that a lot of people will be supporting Roy Jones Jr when/if the fight with Danny Green happens. I certainly will.

Hmmm
08-09-2009, 09:23 AM
I wont. Ill be supporting Danny in the fight. Even though im not a fan of him. First and foremost Im a fan of Aussie fighters and I will always support the Aussie, be it Green, Mundine or Dingo.

Robot16
08-09-2009, 11:55 AM
His doco on fox

COULDHAVEBEEN
08-09-2009, 08:00 PM
Was a keen Danny Green fan up until he binned the WBA title he won from Drews and dodged Garay in the process.

I think many/most of Danny's supporters 'retired' their support when he retired and not all of them made 'comebacks' when he announced his. I still respect his ability and what he achieved, but have never heard a satisfactory explanation as to why he chose to quit the way he did.

Boxing loves winners, and if Danny gets past Dominguez (as he should), the support for him will snowball in the leadup to a local RJJ showdown.

Kegsy
08-09-2009, 09:35 PM
when he won the WBA LHW he retired because he had something the good fighters in the division wanted.if he beats this guy and wins the IBO cruiserweight title do you think hes going to chase Adamek for a fight?:lol::lol:
Adamek too big too strong for Green...imagine if Green did fight Adamek tho would be 1 hell of a war....with Green taking a bit of a beating.

BoppaZoo
08-09-2009, 11:25 PM
What's happened to all the Danny Green fans? :huh

Its a huge week in Greens life with another world title fight next week.

I know he's not fighting one of the top 5 CW's but its still a big event.

If he wins in the states next week a huge fight with RJJ looks like it could be made late this year.

I know this is not champagne or purist boxing however its great for the profile of aussie boxing

So why's everybody bagging him and the fight? :confMate were here. Will always be here.

Im hoping he makes a mess of Dominquez. KO 5 would be real nice.

Then a fight with Jones jr to end his career. Now i know as does everyone else that Roy is well well past it but just to get Roy in the Ring with Green is huge for Danny and Aussie boxing.

ashley
08-10-2009, 01:48 AM
Mate were here. Will always be here.

Im hoping he makes a mess of Dominquez. KO 5 would be real nice.

Then a fight with Jones jr to end his career. Now i know as does everyone else that Roy is well well past it but just to get Roy in the Ring with Green is huge for Danny and Aussie boxing.

So do you think Green will beat RJJ?

pecks
08-10-2009, 03:28 AM
I wont. Ill be supporting Danny in the fight. Even though im not a fan of him. First and foremost Im a fan of Aussie fighters and I will always support the Aussie, be it Green, Mundine or Dingo.I can understand that way of thinking, and generally I'm the same, but I do make exceptions.

Mundine doesn't fly under the Australian flag and even trys to get the national anthem banned from his fights, nor has he ever sang along to it when it's being played. The guy simply doesn't support this country, so I wont support him again no matter who he fights.

Guys like Elomar, etc who cry racism whenever something doesn't go their way are just thugs with gloves too. They can go fuck themselves also.

BoppaZoo
08-10-2009, 03:28 AM
So do you think Green will beat RJJ?Well saying they both win then the fight goes ahead.

mmmmm tough call but both getting older and i couldnt make a decision until after the Lacy fight.

Contendo
08-10-2009, 03:43 AM
Mate were here. Will always be here.

Im hoping he makes a mess of Dominquez. KO 5 would be real nice.

Then a fight with Jones jr to end his career. Now i know as does everyone else that Roy is well well past it but just to get Roy in the Ring with Green is huge for Danny and Aussie boxing.


I agree with the above comments.

If the RJJ / DG bout get's made, I'm sure Australian boxing fans and if promoted/marketed really well (safely assume it will) will open it up to the public getting behind it and will be massive.

Good luck to Danny if his team can make that happen and a real feather in his cap for his career and dare I say it 'legacy' for having the goal to try and bring it to fruition.

If made, Australian boxing shouldn't knock it, but get right behind it which overall I think would happen.

THN
08-10-2009, 05:04 AM
It would be a lot easier if you just admitted that you are a Mundine fan.....all these posts about Mundine :think

I know you shit yourself when Kessler fought Mundine and after 12 rounds you were just as surprised as Kessler was that he won. :hey

Come on mate....its time to get out of the closet....spread the love......not hate :D

The reason I'm loving boxing is there is now way to hide.
What I hate is the guys trying to hide, claming they are the best, and a lot of uneducated people who will pay to see him, bc they dont know better.
Why don't you just pick up wrestling?

Sorry, I want to spread love, but it's hard when we talk Mundine.

ashley
08-10-2009, 05:27 AM
Sorry, I want to spread love, but it's hard when we talk Mundine.

:lol::lol:

boxoncottonon
08-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Danny Green fan here Ash....is there a reason to vocalise it loud and proud jump up and down, insult peoples intelligence with whoopy do world best claims.
It must go without saying but here it is for your benefit, fight outside of your own backyard, take the element of risk in a foriegn land and prosper....can you whisper this in you mates ear?

rusty nails
08-10-2009, 07:35 AM
some of the attitudes in this thread are disgusting.. at least danny had the nuts to go fight some good fighters IN THEIR BACKYARD and for the most part represent himself and his country with pride. As if a fighter trying to talk themselves up a bit is anything new in boxing??? Actually i havent heard him going over the top much at all and for the most part he seems very respectful of his opponents.. Sad,Sad case of tall poppy syndrome here...

ashley
08-10-2009, 08:18 AM
Danny Green fan here Ash....is there a reason to vocalise it loud and proud jump up and down, insult peoples intelligence with whoopy do world best claims.
It must go without saying but here it is for your benefit, fight outside of your own backyard, take the element of risk in a foriegn land and prosper....can you whisper this in you mates ear?


This is a Green thread mate:patsch.....but because you asked....yes there is a reason why Mundine jumps up and down with world best claims......its all about promotion and bums on seats :yep

I do think Mundine will fight a guy with the same skill or better than Domenguez before he ends his career....dont know when.....but it will happen :good

lefty
08-10-2009, 10:15 AM
I don't think the fight with RJ will be made, he's talking about fighting at heavyweight again and talking about this and that and everything with barely a mention of Green.
Green wants to make the fight happen and is trying to lure Jones with a couple of bucks, Jones isn't going to waste his time with him.

I saw Green for the egotistical promoter that he is a long time ago, he's not a true fighter and people can see it clearly now the that the smokes cleared from the Mundine circus and the 'retirement'. He wants money for the least amount of effort, he doesn't want to test himself against a guy like Chad Dawson.

boxoncottonon
08-10-2009, 11:57 AM
[quote=lefty;4681049]
I saw Green for the egotistical promoter that he is a long time ago, he's not a true fighter and people can see it clearly now the that the smokes cleared from the Mundine circus and the 'retirement'.
.[quote]

That is a piss weak comment.

Went into Marcus Beyer's back yard twice, went to Canada and beat thier much favoured champ Lucas, demoralised a much touted Griffen, has fought the best the Australian scene has had to offer taken a world title and he is not a true fighter.....???? :deal

ashley
08-10-2009, 05:36 PM
The tone of this thread will change come sunday when Green has a great win and RJJ smashes Lacy. :deal

Bognashavin
08-10-2009, 10:50 PM
I support Green but nearly as enthusiastically as I did pre-retirement, if he had to retire then he should have stayed retired. I can only see it as he ducked Garay and hoped he'd get an easy payday with another Mundine fight.
Having said that i'll be backing him for wins on Sunday and against RJJ, but who knows.
RJJ should retire too.

Watto
08-11-2009, 12:28 AM
Looking forward to this card,two decent fights,hope Green kills it..

roscoe
08-11-2009, 01:07 AM
Green should win, RJJ should win, but even an over the hill roy will still spank Danny boy if they fight.

lefty
08-11-2009, 01:53 AM
[quote=lefty;4681049]
I saw Green for the egotistical promoter that he is a long time ago, he's not a true fighter and people can see it clearly now the that the smokes cleared from the Mundine circus and the 'retirement'.
.[quote]

That is a piss weak comment.

Went into Marcus Beyer's back yard twice, went to Canada and beat thier much favoured champ Lucas, demoralised a much touted Griffen, has fought the best the Australian scene has had to offer taken a world title and he is not a true fighter.....???? :deal

Beyer is a midget who can't punch, Lucas is B grade and was ill for that fight, i don't know who the much touted Griffen is-some bum hyped up in the west australian to make it look like Green was fighting someone respectable?
Why didn't Green even defend his belt he purchased 1 time? He retired and now he's back to make some money, he doesn't care about fighting any of the top guys, from my perspective a true fighter wants to fight the best.

stiflers mum
08-11-2009, 02:38 AM
[quote=boxoncottonon;4681596][quote=lefty;4681049]
I saw Green for the egotistical promoter that he is a long time ago, he's not a true fighter and people can see it clearly now the that the smokes cleared from the Mundine circus and the 'retirement'.
.

Beyer is a midget who can't punch, Lucas is B grade and was ill for that fight, i don't know who the much touted Griffen is-some bum hyped up in the west australian to make it look like Green was fighting someone respectable?
Why didn't Green even defend his belt he purchased 1 time? He retired and now he's back to make some money, he doesn't care about fighting any of the top guys, from my perspective a true fighter wants to fight the best.
pretty much right with all of that someone mentioned beyer :rofli think kessler showed us all we needed to know about his ability :deal

left jab danny
08-11-2009, 03:07 AM
Yer Danny Green is a fraud...i mean trying to win a belt in order to bring one of the biggest fight Australia has ever seen.
Gee he must be a real arsehole:patsch
Some fuckers just cant be pleased,oh and how dare he try to make $$$ in the boxing game.
Tall poppy syndrome at its best especialy from some WA posters on here.
I could understand the negativity if Danny went around claiming he's the best or p4p this and that but i've never heard him say anything like that.
At least he's got the balls to travel overseas on numerous occasions and test himself win,lose or draw.
I know a lot of posters are pissed about the fact he came out of retirement but fuck how many fighters have made a comeback after claiming they would never fight again?
One thing ill say about Danny as a promotor is that you'll never find 1 fighter that fights on his cards complaining about being ripped off:deal
He's even known to pay fighters extra cash because they've put on a great show for the fans.
He's also quick to put his hand in his pocket to help out amateur boxers or sick children at his own expense.
If many of the people bagging Danny actually new him personally your opinion would change.

IrnBruMan
08-11-2009, 03:09 AM
[quote=boxoncottonon;4681596][quote=lefty;4681049]
I saw Green for the egotistical promoter that he is a long time ago, he's not a true fighter and people can see it clearly now the that the smokes cleared from the Mundine circus and the 'retirement'.
.

Beyer is a midget who can't punch, Lucas is B grade and was ill for that fight, i don't know who the much touted Griffen is-some bum hyped up in the west australian to make it look like Green was fighting someone respectable?
Why didn't Green even defend his belt he purchased 1 time? He retired and now he's back to make some money, he doesn't care about fighting any of the top guys, from my perspective a true fighter wants to fight the best.

Hey lefty, when's Dawson gonna fight someone under the age of 40, or at the very least, beat someone over the age of 40 convincingly?

You might as well keep clinging to the Adamek win, even though Adamek was drained at LHW and has gone on to be a successful CW, eh mate? :yep

Hmmm
08-11-2009, 05:16 AM
Yer Danny Green is a fraud...i mean trying to win a belt in order to bring one of the biggest fight Australia has ever seen.
Gee he must be a real arsehole:patsch
Some fuckers just cant be pleased,oh and how dare he try to make $$$ in the boxing game.
Tall poppy syndrome at its best especialy from some WA posters on here.
I could understand the negativity if Danny went around claiming he's the best or p4p this and that but i've never heard him say anything like that.
At least he's got the balls to travel overseas on numerous occasions and test himself win,lose or draw.
I know a lot of posters are pissed about the fact he came out of retirement but fuck how many fighters have made a comeback after claiming they would never fight again?
One thing ill say about Danny as a promotor is that you'll never find 1 fighter that fights on his cards complaining about being ripped off:deal
He's even known to pay fighters extra cash because they've put on a great show for the fans.
He's also quick to put his hand in his pocket to help out amateur boxers or sick children at his own expense.
If many of the people bagging Danny actually new him personally your opinion would change.

I think it has less to do with his coming out of retirement that has most people pissed, it has to do with the circumstances under which he retired... for which you've conveniently left out a justification...

Some posters on here might have a prob with his making $$, I personally dont. However I think Danny Green doesnt have much over Mundine when it comes to behind the scenes stuff like helping the disadvantaged etc... Mundine does just as much, except Mundine doesnt go crawling to the Media crying out "I VISITED SOPHIE DE LIZIO AT HOSPITAL, IM SUCH A HERO". As for paying fighters etc well its really that extra smelly prick Nasser that deals with that on the Mundine camp. Ohhhh the what-ifs that could be concocted if Mundine had a different manager...

Again my opinion differs to some of the haters in here regards to his fights with Dominiguez and Roy. Good on him for that. Doing more than Mundine is IMO. I dont think he'll beat Roy but its good to see him trying to land the fight.

boxoncottonon
08-11-2009, 06:23 AM
I've seen Green fight in 3 states both in his amature days and as a professional.

This is a fighter I have total respect for amongst many other Australian fighters in a small fighting community.

Green has had the balls much like many other Aussie fighters to head over seas in search of good fights. The ones who don't generally are the ones who cant get financed and have full time jobs supporting families...big respect to them.

Green looks certain to bring out one of the all time greats for the Aussie public to see fight live and he gets bagged for being a money hungry imposter....WTF?

Big kudos to Green I hope both RJJ and Green win and bring something back to this country we can all enjoy.....

If your not into it then switch off....go back to being satisfied with "B" grade level boxing organised by grubby promoters and ego driven officials getting pressured to appease their paymasters....

Maybe a rival could put on a card with the standard Thai fighters and get the Aussies fighters to sell seats for a dollar...

Robot16
08-11-2009, 06:25 AM
As a boxer i have props for greens skills i just do not like his personality and actions which he has done

lefty
08-12-2009, 05:29 AM
[quote=lefty;4686833][quote=boxoncottonon;4681596]

Hey lefty, when's Dawson gonna fight someone under the age of 40, or at the very least, beat someone over the age of 40 convincingly?

You might as well keep clinging to the Adamek win, even though Adamek was drained at LHW and has gone on to be a successful CW, eh mate? :yep

If anything Adameks success at Cruiser makes Chads win over him look even better. He beat Johnson and Tarver as convincingly as they've ever been beaten (apart from Hopkins), both guys are vets and they're gonna be competitive with anyone. After he beats Johnson again he'll probably be fighting Hopkins, who is pretty decent for an old fella, eh mate? He's young and undefeated so he has plenty of time to fight all comers. And as a 'true champion' that is what he will do. In conclusion Green is a douche.

IrnBruMan
08-12-2009, 07:50 AM
If anything Adameks success at Cruiser makes Chads win over him look even better. He beat Johnson and Tarver as convincingly as they've ever been beaten (apart from Hopkins), both guys are vets and they're gonna be competitive with anyone. After he beats Johnson again he'll probably be fighting Hopkins, who is pretty decent for an old fella, eh mate? He's young and undefeated so he has plenty of time to fight all comers. And as a 'true champion' that is what he will do. In conclusion Green is a douche.

I stopped reading after "He beat Johnson...as convincingly as they've ever been beaten" because you obviously haven't seen the fight.

As for your claim about Adamek, his success at CW does nothing to enhance Dawson's win over him, because Adamek was struggling to make LHW, so Dawson fought a weightdrained version of him.

Suck it up, punce :deal

pecks
08-12-2009, 08:24 AM
I rate Dawson a lot, but his win against Johnson was very narrow to say the least and opened up a few questions of him. He should have rematched him instead of having the 2nd Tarver fight.

His win against Adamek was impressive. Apart from the knockdown, he really put a beatdown on him, even if he was weight drained it was impressive.

Still, he's at a crossroads now, and assuming he gets past Johnson, he needs to make another big fight soon.

Kegsy
08-12-2009, 11:04 AM
I also rate Dawson very highly...& anyone who thinks Green is on even close to the level of him, needs to seriously have a look at Dawson's boxing skills & the quality of opponents he has faced.
I mean Dawson beats Green in a shutout or stops him, just depends on how good Green's beard is & whether he can absorb a 12 round beatdown.

stiflers mum
08-12-2009, 10:49 PM
I also rate Dawson very highly...& anyone who thinks Green is on even close to the level of him, needs to seriously have a look at Dawson's boxing skills & the quality of opponents he has faced.
I mean Dawson beats Green in a shutout or stops him, just depends on how good Green's beard is & whether he can absorb a 12 round beatdown.
Green and Dawson shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. As for the weight drain excuse, that's bullshit IMO. Green used it as an excuse for being flogged by Mundine but anyone who reads forums like this remembers him before the fight raving about how he was better conditioned and had a better diet and felt greater under Salas. I can understand fighters using it to somehow justify a loss rather than admit a fighter is better than them.

lefty
08-13-2009, 02:08 AM
I stopped reading after "He beat Johnson...as convincingly as they've ever been beaten" because you obviously haven't seen the fight.

As for your claim about Adamek, his success at CW does nothing to enhance Dawson's win over him, because Adamek was struggling to make LHW, so Dawson fought a weightdrained version of him.

Suck it up, punce :deal

The fight against Johnson was close but he won convincingly, if you score a fight by rounds as you're supposed to then Dawson wins comfortably. Yes he got stunned a couple of times and didn't fight the smartest fight but he came through and he's the sort of fighter to learn from his mistakes.

Your claim about Adamek is laughable, he fought his whole career at light heavy and didn't have a problem with the weight until he comprehensively got his ass kicked. Wait... that reminds me of someone else :deal

IrnBruMan
08-13-2009, 02:32 AM
The fight against Johnson was close but he won convincingly, if you score a fight by rounds as you're supposed to then Dawson wins comfortably. Yes he got stunned a couple of times and didn't fight the smartest fight but he came through and he's the sort of fighter to learn from his mistakes.

Your claim about Adamek is laughable, he fought his whole career at light heavy and didn't have a problem with the weight until he comprehensively got his ass kicked. Wait... that reminds me of someone else :deal

If you'd seen the Johnson fight, you'd know it wasn't a convincing win.

So your logic is that because Adamek fought most of his career at LHW (8 years in fact) it means he wasn't struggling with the weight by the time he fought Dawson? His success at CW would suggest that he is better suited to CW at this stage of his career than LHW wouldn't it? Or do you think it's a piece of cake to throw on an extra 25lbs and beat the top CW's? Of course, that sort of logic and sense doesn't fit in with your manlove of Dawson :lol:

Suck it up hazey fantayzee :yep

lefty
08-13-2009, 05:36 AM
If you'd seen the Johnson fight, you'd know it wasn't a convincing win.

So your logic is that because Adamek fought most of his career at LHW (8 years in fact) it means he wasn't struggling with the weight by the time he fought Dawson? His success at CW would suggest that he is better suited to CW at this stage of his career than LHW wouldn't it? Or do you think it's a piece of cake to throw on an extra 25lbs and beat the top CW's? Of course, that sort of logic and sense doesn't fit in with your manlove of Dawson :lol:

Suck it up hazey fantayzee :yep

Yeah he is suited better to CW at this stage of his career. But we are talking about when he fought Dawson. He made the light heavy limit with no problems. Do you think that maybe the problem for Adamek was that he had a guy in front of him that was too quick for him to get any meaningful work done? You talk about logic and sense but nothing you're saying has any of it. Adamek is doing well at Cruiser because he is faster than the naturally bigger guys and he has a good chin and punch like he always has.

ashley
08-13-2009, 06:41 AM
Well the fights getting closer every day now and I am getting very keen......bring on Sunday :partytime :woot

Both fights are going to be good....for me its a double main event :good

cedrichw
08-13-2009, 08:22 AM
this fight will be a so so fight. Green and the IBO have picked this opponent so cannot see too many problems. This is all being put together for the Green RJJ fight so to say it isn't going to happen is a bit silly. I will be much more interested when I see Green in the ring with an over the hill Jones then these 2 should be a big show in Melbourne

IrnBruMan
08-13-2009, 09:23 PM
He made the light heavy limit with no problems.

No he didn't, which is why he moved up and fought at CW 4 months later and has stayed there ever since. There are plenty of articles on the net that talk about this - just google 'adamek struggle weight' and you'll see - don't live in denial hayzee :nono

Your 'logic' is that Adamek ran away from LHW because he knew he couldn't beat Dawson. Is it logical to suggest Adamek would flee his favoured division - like you said, the division he had fought all of his career at - because he thought he couldn't beat one man in Dawson, or does it make more sense to say that making LHW weight was getting too hard for him after 8 years and he realised he was better suited moving up to CW?

You make sound as if Adamek would move back down to LHW tomorrow if Dawson moved out of the division...that's not very 'logical' hayzeee...

lefty
08-14-2009, 02:15 AM
No he didn't, which is why he moved up and fought at CW 4 months later and has stayed there ever since. There are plenty of articles on the net that talk about this - just google 'adamek struggle weight' and you'll see - don't live in denial hayzee :nono

Your 'logic' is that Adamek ran away from LHW because he knew he couldn't beat Dawson. Is it logical to suggest Adamek would flee his favoured division - like you said, the division he had fought all of his career at - because he thought he couldn't beat one man in Dawson, or does it make more sense to say that making LHW weight was getting too hard for him after 8 years and he realised he was better suited moving up to CW?

You make sound as if Adamek would move back down to LHW tomorrow if Dawson moved out of the division...that's not very 'logical' hayzeee...

I never said anything of the sort. I'd say he left the division for a fresh start and because he believed he would do better there where he would be faster compared to the bigger guys. Let's face it Muttley, you're an internet troll who wants a reaction, you don't say anything that makes sense.

Big Fish
08-14-2009, 02:16 AM
Green, for lack of a better word, is good.

Dominguez is a tough customer but Danny should handle him :D

toppity
08-14-2009, 02:18 AM
Green, for lack of a better word, is good.

Dominguez is a tough customer but Danny should handle him :D

KO win for green i reckon.

Big Fish
08-14-2009, 02:22 AM
The smart money says it will happen in under 7.5 rounds

toppity
08-14-2009, 02:26 AM
The smart money says it will happen in under 7.5 rounds
is your money smart?

Big Fish
08-14-2009, 02:27 AM
No, but tf's is.

toppity
08-14-2009, 02:32 AM
sold then.

house goes on tonight

Big Fish
08-14-2009, 02:34 AM
You will have two houses come Monday. Maybe the in laws can have one...

IrnBruMan
08-14-2009, 03:29 AM
I never said anything of the sort. I'd say he left the division for a fresh start and because he believed he would do better there where he would be faster compared to the bigger guys. Let's face it Muttley, you're an internet troll who wants a reaction, you don't say anything that makes sense.

Hmm, let's see, what did you say again?

Your claim about Adamek is laughable, he fought his whole career at light heavy and didn't have a problem with the weight until he comprehensively got his ass kicked. Wait... that reminds me of someone else :deal

Yeah he is suited better to CW at this stage of his career. But we are talking about when he fought Dawson. He made the light heavy limit with no problems. Do you think that maybe the problem for Adamek was that he had a guy in front of him that was too quick for him to get any meaningful work done? You talk about logic and sense but nothing you're saying has any of it. Adamek is doing well at Cruiser because he is faster than the naturally bigger guys and he has a good chin and punch like he always has.

Give the manlove away hayzeeeeeee

lefty
08-14-2009, 05:08 AM
Hmm, let's see, what did you say again?





Give the manlove away hayzeeeeeee

Again, where did i say the only reason he left light-heavy was because of Dawson? You're not the brightest spark are you