View Full Version : well conditioned boxers that never did any running?
TIGEREDGE
08-08-2009, 12:21 PM
i dont mean the likes of two ton and chris arreola. i mean conditioned boxers. manny stewrd reckons holyfield never did it until he trained with him
redrooster
08-08-2009, 12:48 PM
I heard Ketchel and Greb got their workouts at the brothels
TIGEREDGE
08-08-2009, 01:04 PM
I heard Ketchel and Greb got their workouts at the brothels
after the spinks fight, tyson also kept himself in shape by doing loads of shagging
jaffay
08-08-2009, 01:14 PM
I heard Ketchel and Greb got their workouts at the brothels
And I heard that Greb was very faithful to his wife...I think he was considered "ladies man" after her death...
CottoDaBodykill
08-08-2009, 02:21 PM
juan diaz isn't a runner as far as i know he does the stair master and lots of swimming
Hellion
08-08-2009, 02:40 PM
i dont mean the likes of two ton and chris arreola. i mean conditioned boxers. manny stewrd reckons holyfield never did it until he trained with him
Then Manny Steward is lying. There used to be a show called WBF Bodystars and they did a feature on Evander Holyfields training and one of the things they definitely showed him doing was running.
This would've been just after the Cooper fight and prior to the Holmes fight....two fights before Holyfield hooked up with Manny.
CottoDaBodykill
08-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Then Manny Steward is lying. There used to be a show called WBF Bodystars and they did a feature on Evander Holyfields training and one of the things they definitely showed him doing was running.
This would've been just after the Cooper fight and prior to the Holmes fight....two fights before Holyfield hooked up with Manny.
i agree .. i don't think holyfield "liked" to run ..but he did it one of them sort of things
janitor
08-08-2009, 02:42 PM
I heard Ketchel and Greb got their workouts at the brothels
Much of what it written about Greb's life outside the ring is nonsense.
Greb was fanatical about his roadwork reputation notwithstanding.
GPater11093
08-08-2009, 02:57 PM
Pernell didnt d a lot of running didnt he?
Jorodz
08-08-2009, 03:24 PM
Much of what it written about Greb's life outside the ring is nonsense.
Greb was fanatical about his roadwork reputation notwithstanding.
interesting. is there a good resource/bio about greb that is accurate as to his life and cuts the fiction and bullshit to a minimal? i was thinking about picking up the latest book but wasn't sure if it was worth it
BENNY BLANCO
08-08-2009, 11:08 PM
Pernell didnt do a lot of running didnt he? In fights he did his fair share.:D
J/P Whitaker fans.
The Kurgan
08-09-2009, 02:25 AM
It depends to some degree on what one means by "conditioned", but James Toney as a heavyweight could fight 12 very hard rounds and never ran. The vast majority of his training, in the latter stages of his career, was made up of sparring, which was what gave him the endurance to fight 12 rounds against bigger men like Dominick Guinn, Sam Peter and John Ruiz.
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-10-2009, 01:17 AM
It's got me how anyone could develop the 'wind' required for 12 rounds without doing any running - not saying nobody's ever done it though.
In Toney's case, nothing like hard rounds in preparation for hard rounds.
celtic power
08-10-2009, 04:52 AM
I heard Wlad barely runs anymore. He replaced most of it with swimming because it's less wear and tear on his body.
kolcade4
08-10-2009, 07:33 AM
Who the hell does like to run , it sucks. I run ,but i hate it. I get tired and feel like quitting but i tell myself to keep going. Which is what fighters have to do. Its a very mental moment for anyone, lots of time to think about things. Whether you should press on for another 1/4 mile or be weak and not challenge yourself. The only thing that i can see that could replace running and get the same benefit would be swimming. Low impact and it works practically all the muscles in your body.
lefthook31
08-10-2009, 08:26 AM
It's got me how anyone could develop the 'wind' required for 12 rounds without doing any running - not saying nobody's ever done it though.
In Toney's case, nothing like hard rounds in preparation for hard rounds.
Thats right, by just sparring 12 rounds. Theres nothing like sparring I dont care how far you run or how much gym work you do, nothing prepares you for the ring like sparring.
Toney would show up at the gym and spar with anyone. That being said running would have made him a better fighter, because he had a false sense of security knowing he could go 12, because he was so fat he couldnt throw a straight punch anymore. His last couple fights were a disgrace.
jimbo1993
08-10-2009, 12:54 PM
i was watching one one of naseem fight's on espn classic a while back and the commentator mentioned he didn't do any roadwork
lefthook31
08-10-2009, 02:06 PM
Not that Im a former champion, but I logged a lot of rounds and I hated doing roadwork. I always had terrible shin splints, and running just killed me. I had to use Absorbin JR just to keep them numb enough to make it through a workout.
TIGEREDGE
08-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Who the hell does like to run , it sucks. I run ,but i hate it. I get tired and feel like quitting but i tell myself to keep going. Which is what fighters have to do. Its a very mental moment for anyone, lots of time to think about things. Whether you should press on for another 1/4 mile or be weak and not challenge yourself. The only thing that i can see that could replace running and get the same benefit would be swimming. Low impact and it works practically all the muscles in your body.
snooker ace ronnie o sullivan does. he reckons it really helps his depression. i used to like doing long distance running one time but i now do HIIT sprinting instead
HIIT helps release HGH. is 10x more effective at raising the metabolism and doesnt burn muscle
i lost a shit load muscle round the thighs doing long distance running
PowerPuncher
08-10-2009, 04:33 PM
i was watching one one of naseem fight's on espn classic a while back and the commentator mentioned he didn't do any roadwork
He used to, dont think hes done any recently :lol:
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