Matt Hughes.....

[KCD]

What do you guys think of him?

[BewareofDawg]

I'd like to see him fight GSP again.

[Grievesy]

I'd like to see him fight GSP again.


Don't like him huh?:yep

[Beebs]

One of my favorite fighters of all time. Him picking Trigg up and running across the ring before slamming damn near through the mat was one of my favorite all time MMA moments.

[KCD]

Don't like him huh?:yep

Thats what i was thinking too:lol:

[KCD]

One of my favorite fighters of all time. Him picking Trigg up and running across the ring before slamming damn near through the mat was one of my favorite all time MMA moments.

Me too, he is my favourite fighter, loved the way he tore through the UFC 170 division.

I only made this thread due to alot of people seemingly role reversing on the guy.

About 5 years ago eeryone loved him....nowadays the love isnt there and people refer to him as a prick.

I still love the guy, he at one time was the UFC.

[BewareofDawg]

One of my favorite fighters of all time. Him picking Trigg up and running across the ring before slamming damn near through the mat was one of my favorite all time MMA moments.
That was great

[BewareofDawg]

Don't like him huh?:yep
I just love seeing GSP use him as a human rag doll :good

[Grievesy]

I just love seeing GSP use him as a human rag doll :good

You sadistic bastard!:lol:

[BewareofDawg]

You sadistic bastard!:lol:
I'm telling you the look on Hughes's face between rounds whenever he fights GSP is fucking priceless. Karma is a mother fucker, and hughes got what was coming to him.....twice and I pray to anything godly that Dana White milks Hughes for one more fight against St Pierre, I'd pay $100 for that PPV :deal:yep

[hopkinsfan07]

He was a great champion and was the best of all time at welterweight in my opinion, maybe he has now been surpassed by GSP.

[Thom]

Great fighter in his prime. Had one of the most dominant runs in MMA history when he was champ.

[québecwarrior]

Douchebag

[Beebs]

I'm telling you the look on Hughes's face between rounds whenever he fights GSP is fucking priceless. Karma is a mother fucker, and hughes got what was coming to him.....twice and I pray to anything godly that Dana White milks Hughes for one more fight against St Pierre, I'd pay $100 for that PPV :deal:yep


It took me a long time to coming around to liking GSP because of the whole him trying to dethrone Hughes, but in between rounds 1 and 2 in their second fight, when I saw GSP just pacing back and forth with this just absolute blood lust in his eyes; no cornerman talk, no stool, just what was probably the longest 60 seconds of his life between him and his dream, that was truely amazing. Really realized that he had passed Hughes as a fighter at that point, plus Hughes' subsequent decline, which made it ok in my brain to cheer for and appreciate GSP.

I think those two will always be linked in history, and they seem to get along quite well now, so it's pretty easy for me to have Hughes as one of if not my absolute favorite of all time, yet still cheer for GSP.

[Beebs]

Me too, he is my favourite fighter, loved the way he tore through the UFC 170 division.

I only made this thread due to alot of people seemingly role reversing on the guy.

About 5 years ago eeryone loved him....nowadays the love isnt there and people refer to him as a prick.

I still love the guy, he at one time was the UFC.

Maybe it's time warping things, but I remember being a defender against Hughes' haters even 5 years ago, not quite as bad as a year or two ago.

I think now people are finally coming around now that we are seeing the last of him; probably have already seen the end of his career as a title threat.

I'm with you though, even had that same avatar for a while.

[Polymath]

I do like seeing him being battered and knocked out.

[Polymath]

One of my favorite fighters of all time. Him picking Trigg up and running across the ring before slamming damn near through the mat was one of my favorite all time MMA moments.

You don't like Mayweather because of his petulent behavior, but one of your favorite fighters is by all reports a bully, disliked by everyone who meets him and just an all round cunt.

[Beebs]

You don't like Mayweather because of his petulent behavior, but one of your favorite fighters is by all reports a bully, disliked by everyone who meets him and just an all round cunt.

Mayweather is just an idiot who constantly boasts about stupid shit, gives himselfs nicknames, and all sorts of "look at me" shit.

Hughes is just percieved as a bully because he has a bit of high school jock in him that I admit is a bit unflattering. You never hear him say how great he is or anything like that. People take him to be an ass because of things like telling GSP he would show him an armbar defense; too him that's just two guys joking, that's what guys do, they bust balls; to a lot of people it's a slight.

Most of the time when you ask people for a specific reason why they hate Hughes it's something so stupid and trivial like "the look on his face" or something else complete vague or insignificant.

Hughes and Mayweather could not be any more different.

[J_Roth]

Have been a big fan of his for some time now. I love when he subbed Riggs.

[Polymath]

Hughes himself disagrees with you. His book is basically a big boast about how much of a prick he is; bullying people in college (when he was an adult), punching his brother in the face while he was driving, beating his dad up for no obvious reason etc.

I like Carlos Monzon, I dont feel the need to pretend he wasn't a bad person.

Hughes is an atg but hes a semi-literate scumbag and seems to have personality disorder. He's obsessed with his height as well, which might axplain some of his douchbaggery :lol:

[Beebs]

Hughes himself disagrees with you. His book is basically a big boast about how much of a prick he is; bullying people in college (when he was an adult), punching his brother in the face while he was driving, beating his dad up for no obvious reason etc.

I like Carlos Monzon, I dont feel the need to pretend he wasn't a bad person.

Hughes is an atg but hes a semi-literate scumbag and seems to have personality disorder. He's obsessed with his height as well, which might axplain some of his douchbaggery :lol:

Well the point in the books is how big of a change finding religion made in him. His religion is another reason he gets so much hate; while I find his beliefs absurd, no more absurd than anybody else who believes in a god of any sort. Once we start talking about invisible men in the sky, or magic, then its all crazy to me, so I don't care what brand of crazy it is.

I don't know the man personally, but it seems that if you are friendly with him he will try to be likable, some people just find the way he does it to be abrasive; I think its pretty clear that he means well.

A lot of it does come down to stereotyping; he is a white farm kid from the midwest, so automatically you call him a redneck. Redneck isn't the worst insult in the world, but there is definatly an element of race/socioeconomic/ region prejustice in it. A lot of the hate for Hughes has at least an element of that, and often quite a bit of it. People see a farm boy jock who was a bully in highschool and automatically attach every negative sterotype related to that, especially if the person was one of the types of peope Hughes picked on in, which a lot of MMA fans were that type of person.

That makes no more sense than calling a black guy something insulting, but still fairly innocuous, maybe something like blacky; calling an Italian a Dago, things that aren't room clearers but still insulting at their root.

The guy is not some semi-literate hick, he has a college degree, he is very business savvy, he runs his own gym/team, helps run a huge farm which takes a large degree of intellegence, and just generally conducts himself in an intelligent manner.

To say you think he is a douchebag is one thing, it is even pretty easy to argue because of some of the things he has done. Personally I think it is just people taking him the wrong way because they already want to dislike him due to the sterotype element.

To call the guy a scumbag though? Way, way, way over the top; getting in fights in college does not make you scumbag. He regurarly goes on missionary trips to Central America and does real work to help build schools, things of that nature. He doesn't do it for the publicity, he does it because he believes its the right thing to do.

Look at the end of all of his fights, he is always respectful and even friendly, no matter how shitty (real or fake) the other guy got pre fight. He made a sincere effort to congradulate GSP when GSP beat him; some people will just say "well thats just because he got the shit beat out of him" but look at him after both Trigg fights, after the Royce fight, after the Serra fight even. Serra didn't deserve any respect after the shit he talked about Hughes, but Hughes was the one who went out of his way to clear the air after the fight was over. Serra is a much bigger cunt than Hughes.

There are some elements of the guys personality that rub people the wrong way, some are just matters of preference, but yea, some are geniunely douchbag material. But far more of it just comes down to peoples sterotypes; most peoples criticisms are things like "he looks cocky" "he acts arrogant" "he is shitty to opponents" which are either just absurdly self imposed by the critic, misunderstanding the guy, or simply not true.

[jimmie]

One of the 10 best MMA fighters of all time. Great all around grappler, evolved from just a wrestler with strong GNP to a fine submission fighter. Im not a fan of Hughes but something has to be said for 9 fucking title wins and him fighting everyone out there. Only a true warrior doesnt tap in that Triangle BJ had on him in the rematch or the RNC that had him turning red agianst Trigg. Only a badass takes fights with GSP,Alves,BJ ETC on very short notice. When I think of classic MMA moments so many Hughes moments stick out like the powerslam on Carlos Newton while he was being choked out or the beautiful armbar on GSP in 2004 or his incredible comeback vs Trigg in the rematch.

[Dantes]

Seems like a hard working- pretty low key guy. He was great in his prime- unfortunately all good things must come to an end.:good

[Polymath]

Seems like a hard working- pretty low key guy.

Erm, based on what?

One of the best parts of his book is where he tells the story of how he was in abar with his brother and others after a ufc event, and his brother was complaining that the bathroom was too far away. Matt, being the low key rural gent that he is, decided the next time he went to the bar to get his dick out and piss against the bar. He did this every time he went to the bar. What a good guy :lol:

[Polymath]

The guy is not some semi-literate hick, he has a college degree

He went to a local community college on an athletic scholarship, he it not an academic :lol:

He actually brags in the book about how he got A's without going to class or doing anything, because the school was so bad and would do anything to keep their athletes. He was at college with Mark Fiore, who was legitmately illiterate, couldn't read or write, and somehow got through college...

[jimmie]

Erm, based on what?

One of the best parts of his book is where he tells the story of how he was in abar with his brother and others after a ufc event, and his brother was complaining that the bathroom was too far away. matt, but the low key rural gent that he is, decided the next time he went to the bar to get his dick out and piss against the bar. He did this every time he went to the bar. What a good guy :lol:

Sometimes when I dont wanna walk upstairs I piss in the sink does this make me a bad guy :huh

[Polymath]

Sometimes when I dont wanna walk upstairs I piss in the sink does this make me a bad guy :huh

Yeh thats exactly the same. :patsch

[jimmie]

Yeh thats exactly the same. :patsch

Well if it makes it better I do pour alittle dish liquid in the sink and run hot water to prevent any lingering smell. I have bad ankles and hate walking up stairs it turns my 21 years into about 80 real quick.

[Polymath]

OK, but you dont piss in your moms shoes while shes making you a cup of coffee, do you?

[IntentionalButt]

Love him for humbling Royce. A coworker of mine leading up to that fight was proclaiming BJJ the only discipline that mattered and flew off the handle if you suggested Gracie couldn't beat all the current titlists at the time in every division on the same night.

[jimmie]

OK, but you dont piss in your moms shoes while shes making you a cup of coffee, do you?

Of course not.

[Beebs]

He went to a local community college on an athletic scholarship, he it not an academic :lol:

He actually brags in the book about how he got A's without going to class or doing anything, because the school was so bad and would do anything to keep their athletes. He was at college with Mark Fiore, who was legitmately illiterate, couldn't read or write, and somehow got through college...
Eastern illinois is a perfectly legitimate school, it's not a community college, it's a full four year university.

More importantly he runs a successful gym that he started, and his farm is a huge operation, although his brother does more of the work with that.

The man is quite intelligent.

[scurlaruntings]

Sometimes when I dont wanna walk upstairs I piss in the sink does this make me a bad guy :huhMan only white people do that shit. WTF is wrong with you people? Piss in your fucking sink?!?!!?!? :yikes

[jimmie]

Man only white people do that shit. WTF is wrong with you people? Piss in your fucking sink?!?!!?!? :yikes

Relax my man its only once in a great while and ill kinda clean out the sink. Ive always had a thing for that, back in middle school or sometimes even high school id piss in the sink instead of the stalls.

[codeman99998]

Man only white people do that shit. WTF is wrong with you people? Piss in your fucking sink?!?!!?!? :yikes

I have a couple environmentalist friends that do it because it "saves water". I try to tell them that they can just not flush after they piss, but they do it anyways.

This is a gross topic.

[scurlaruntings]

I have a couple environmentalist friends that do it because it "saves water". I try to tell them that they can just not flush after they piss, but they do it anyways.

This is a gross topic.Ugh so unclean..:patsch

[MaliSlamusrex]

dickhead

[achillesthegreat]

Great fighter. You could argue he is from the powerhouse breed but is now having to give way to the athletic breed i.e. GSP, Silva and Machida. The agile strikers who don't need strength to have a great ground game.

I really liked Hughes when I started watching UFC years ago. He made it look so brutal with the slams. He makes UFC look like WWE but real.

[socrates]

the second best welterweight to ever lace up..

a p4p ATG

AN ORIGINAL AND PIONEER OF THE SPORT.

ONE WORD:LEGEND.

CHECK OUT HIS FIGHTS WITH NEWTON AND TRIGG.

[scurlaruntings]

the second best welterweight to ever lace up..

a p4p ATG

AN ORIGINAL AND PIONEER OF THE SPORT.

ONE WORD:LEGEND.

CHECK OUT HIS FIGHTS WITH NEWTON AND TRIGG.Both guys although welters were too small for Hughes. Hughes ran over them like he was a freight train. Trigg tried to get into Matt's head and boy was that a bad idea. As for Ronin he got walked across the cage and slammed straight through the mat into the planet below...

[Beebs]

Both guys although welters were too small for Hughes. Hughes ran over them like he was a freight train. Trigg tried to get into Matt's head and boy was that a bad idea. As for Ronin he got walked across the cage and slammed straight through the mat into the planet below...

Trigg is bigger than Hughes, he has fought at 185 recently, making the top 10 at the time, and to get back to 170 has been very hard accoring to him. Newton also went on to fight at 185; he just was much less powerful and could by deal with Hughes wrestling. Hughes was stronger than both, although with Trigg it was very close, as was their wrestling; their fights just came down to Hughes greatness as an mma fighter, his mental strength being the biggesst factor.

[rydersonthestorm]

I don't know the man personally, but it seems that if you are friendly with him he will try to be likable, some people just find the way he does it to be abrasive; I think its pretty clear that he means well.

I wonder if tim sylvia would agree with that :lol: