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BENNY BLANCO
08-11-2009, 07:49 PM
Pretty simple question I'm asking and when you do give out a underrated win from your favorite fighter please give an explanation why the win should be given more credit/recognition that it does'nt get.

Bill Butcher
08-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Morales vs Hernandez @ 130

Hernandez was a solid 130 lb champ, a man that gave a peak Mayweather a hard time, Morales put on a performance were he did everything, he outboxed him from the outside & stood toe to toe with him as well, Erik must have won at least 9 rds, its rarely mentioned when speaking of Morales but I think it was his best overall display at 130 lbs alongside the 1st Pac fight.

PhillyPhan69
08-11-2009, 08:17 PM
Willie "The Worm" Monroe over Marvelous Marvin Hagler- Willie The Worm remains an after thought to many who are not affiliated with the Philly scene. But at his best was a silky smooth boxer with a great heart. In beating hagler The Worm put on an electrifying performance and was one of the first live fights I attended. The Worm was in his prime and Hagler was certainly entering his. I have heard some argue that the Worm won a hometown decision, or that Hagler was not at his high level of form just yet. I believe both are incorrect! The Worm put on a masterful display of cunning and aggresiveness. Hagler became kind of an adopted Philadelphian through some of his wars here, and because of the respect I have for him find this victory an amazing and largely forgotten one!!!

BENNY BLANCO
08-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Willie "The Worm" Monroe over Marvelous Marvin Hagler- Willie The Worm remains an after thought to many who are not affiliated with the Philly scene. But at his best was a silky smooth boxer with a great heart. In beating hagler The Worm put on an electrifying performance and was one of the first live fights I attended. The Worm was in his prime and Hagler was certainly entering his. I have heard some argue that the Worm won a hometown decision, or that Hagler was not at his high level of form just yet. I believe both are incorrect! The Worm put on a masterful display of cunning and aggresiveness. Hagler became kind of an adopted Philadelphian through some of his wars here, and because of the respect I have for him find this victory an amazing and largely forgotten one!!! Pretty interesting post.

essexboy
08-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Nigel Benn vs Robbie Sims

Only guy to stop him and Sims fought some heavy hitters. Benn actually fought a good patient fight in that one for once as well.

yancey
08-12-2009, 01:17 AM
To answer the question, I would say Frazier's knockout of the veteran Doug Jones in February, 1967. Though I've never seen this fight on film, Sports Illustrated did a story on the fight and described the knockout as a devastating left hook. Jones still had something left in the tank in early '67 and had given Ali a helluva fight some years earlier.

Rock0052
08-12-2009, 02:49 AM
Willie "The Worm" Monroe over Marvelous Marvin Hagler- Willie The Worm remains an after thought to many who are not affiliated with the Philly scene. But at his best was a silky smooth boxer with a great heart. In beating hagler The Worm put on an electrifying performance and was one of the first live fights I attended. The Worm was in his prime and Hagler was certainly entering his. I have heard some argue that the Worm won a hometown decision, or that Hagler was not at his high level of form just yet. I believe both are incorrect! The Worm put on a masterful display of cunning and aggresiveness. Hagler became kind of an adopted Philadelphian through some of his wars here, and because of the respect I have for him find this victory an amazing and largely forgotten one!!!

Good stuff. I'd always been guilty myself of assuming Hagler's being too green cost him the fight although I'd never seen it, so it's always good to hear about someone who was there when it happened.

DRmullen2
08-12-2009, 04:03 AM
Gerald over benn. fight should of been over in one round or all that rabbit punching benn did and that ref didn't care..never would of happened in say vegas,..

My2Sense
08-12-2009, 04:11 AM
I think Dick Tiger's win over Nino Benvenuti is criminally underrated in the grand scheme of things. A faded, 40-year old ex-champ completely schooling the reigning middleweight champ in a huge upset. It was essentially the Hopkins-Pavlik of its day, and should've retained its significance given that Benvenuti is a HOFer; but instead its been virtually forgotten today.

I think Henry Armstrong's first major title win over Petey Sarron often gets overlooked among all his other achievements. Sarron may not exactly be a legend, but he was a solid champion who had won his title by decisively beating a HOFer, and this was the only time he was ever stopped in his 150 or so fight career. Armstrong reportedly also had a very impressive title defense against Pedro Montanez, who had a fine record and had reportedly never been down before in about 100 fights (and the only other stoppage loss of his career was on cuts).

duranimal
08-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Gerald over benn. fight should of been over in one round or all that rabbit punching benn did and that ref didn't care..never would of happened in say vegas,..

Correct:yep Don King who'd have told Frank ****** this, tell yer boy not too show up as the results already been decided:lol::smoke

KOTF
08-12-2009, 02:27 PM
Holyfield - Moorer II. The 5 KD's were icing on the cake for this unification bout

Manassa
08-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Willie "The Worm" Monroe over Marvelous Marvin Hagler- Willie The Worm remains an after thought to many who are not affiliated with the Philly scene. But at his best was a silky smooth boxer with a great heart. In beating hagler The Worm put on an electrifying performance and was one of the first live fights I attended. The Worm was in his prime and Hagler was certainly entering his. I have heard some argue that the Worm won a hometown decision, or that Hagler was not at his high level of form just yet. I believe both are incorrect! The Worm put on a masterful display of cunning and aggresiveness. Hagler became kind of an adopted Philadelphian through some of his wars here, and because of the respect I have for him find this victory an amazing and largely forgotten one!!!

Nice. How true is it that Hagler's eyes were both swollen and blood streamed from his nose?

PhillyPhan69
08-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Nice. How true is it that Hagler's eyes were both swollen and blood streamed from his nose?

Sorry, while parts of this fight remain ingrained in my memory I do not recall the swollenness or the blood? That does not mean that there was not any, I just don't remember seeing that? I am under the understanding that while hagler lambasted the judges about his decision loss to Boogaloo that he never questioned this one, and reportedly admitted that the judges got this one right. Unfortunately I have been trying to track down a copy of this fight for several years and have not been able to locate one...there were cameras there so I assume that a copy must exist???

I know that briscoe cut hagler early? don't know if that is what you are refering to?

I checked out Philly boxing history and couldn't come up with a cut..here is there report:

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Philly Boxing History

MARCH 9, 1976

ANOTHER TOUGH VISIT FOR HAGLER

Willie 'The Worm' Monroe scored the biggest win of his career on this day in 1976. The victory was an emphatic and clear-cut, 10-round decision over Marvelous Marvin Hagler at the Spectrum before just 3,459 die hard fans who braved a snow storm to watch the fight.

Hagler, then a very hot prospect, made his Philly debut just two months prior when he lost a close decision to Bobby 'Boogaloo' Watts at the same venue. Infuriated by that loss, Hagler jumped at the chance to replace Vinnie Curto who pulled out of his fight with Monroe. However, this bout was far different than the one with Watts, as Monroe administered a pretty good beating. To this day, the loss to Monroe is the only one Hagler ever admits to. But Hagler's business wasn't finished in Philadelphia. Marv returned in September to score a TKO win over Cyclone Hart, and then in 1978 beat Bennie Briscoe over 10 rounds. Monroe & Hagler faced off two more times with Hagler winning both bouts by TKO.

essexboy
08-12-2009, 05:38 PM
Gerald over benn. fight should of been over in one round or all that rabbit punching benn did and that ref didn't care..never would of happened in say vegas,..

The ref was pretty poor but you cant deny Benn did awesomely to come back.

Maxmomer
08-12-2009, 05:59 PM
Stanley Ketchel's win over Hugo Kelly. Prior to this fight Kelly was only stopped once very early in his career. He had wins over Mike Schrek, Mike Donovan, Jack O' Brien and he'd gone 30 rounds with Tommy Burns. Ketchel blasted him out in the beginning of the third round. He went on to beat Frank Klaus and it took ATG LHW puncher Jack Dillon three rounds himself to KO Kelly in his last fight.

Billy Miske's win over Jack Renault is also impressive to me. Renault was a very good and very durable heavyweight contender and Miske was the only one to stop him up until Renault met Young Stribling at the end of his career.

WhataRock
08-12-2009, 07:44 PM
Duran over Villa...Emiliano was an excellent fighter. A former Olympian, he was bigger and very classy. Roberto mugged him after Villa was coming off a commendable performance against a newly crowned Benitez.

People tend to forget how much of the 140 division Roberto cleaned out in the fights between his lightweight defenses.

PetethePrince
08-12-2009, 08:58 PM
Marciano v Walcott II I guess

Manassa
08-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Can't say any of Ike Williams' wins are underrated. A few overlooked, maybe, but that always happens with the older fighters who have too many good wins to count.

WhataRock
08-12-2009, 10:26 PM
Can't say any of Ike Williams' wins are underrated. A few overlooked, maybe, but that always happens with the older fighters who have too many good wins to count.


Ill give a shout to Ike's stoppage win over Freddie Dawson.

Freddie was an excellent fighter and has a great record...Ike being the main offender when it came to his losses and only one of two men to stop Freddie in over 100+ bouts.

Freddie came to Australia and cleaned the place out on way to beating one of our greatest in Vic Patrick. Came back and took care of a few more I believe..that along with many, many excellent wins in his homeland and his reported highly competitive battles with Ike after Williams had already knocked him out.

Pretty astonishing that Ike did this all things considered.

Manassa
08-12-2009, 10:59 PM
Ill give a shout to Ike's stoppage win over Freddie Dawson.

Freddie was an excellent fighter and has a great record...Ike being the main offender when it came to his losses and only one of two men to stop Freddie in over 100+ bouts.

Freddie came to Australia and cleaned the place out on way to beating one of our greatest in Vic Patrick. Came back and took care of a few more I believe..that along with many, many excellent wins in his homeland and his reported highly competitive battles with Ike after Williams had already knocked him out.

Pretty astonishing that Ike did this all things considered.

Yeah, that's a good one.

BENNY BLANCO
08-12-2009, 11:23 PM
Keep them going fellas, I'm trying to grow in knowledge.

mochabuzz
08-13-2009, 02:04 AM
Holyfield vs Bowe II.... Perhaps the smartest fight that Holy has ever fought.

GPater11093
08-14-2009, 10:12 AM
Hagler over Sibson - Sibson was a very underrated fighter and one of Haglers best defences

Duran over Marcel - At just over Featherweight a young Duran beat up the decent Marcel

Pep vs Famechon - a comebacking Pep outclassed the european champ

Muchmoore
08-14-2009, 12:20 PM
Tyson against Ruddock. Ruddock was on a tear from 86-91, going 16-0 with 15 of them ending inside the distance. Out of those 16, 3 were former titlists in Mike Weaver, Michael Dokes, and Bonecrusher Smith. Razor's smash had ATG power.

Ruddock was viewed very, very highly and they beat the tar out of each other in both meetings. It should be noted that most thought Ruddock was the top guy even after Tyson beat him twice (after Tyson was sent to prison). Very good win and one that gets overlooked.

bxrfan
08-14-2009, 12:36 PM
Terry Norris' 8th round knockout of Vincent Pettway. Pettway had just recently KTFO Norris conqueror and former victim Simon Brown in a devastating way. Had some serious pop, did Vincent Pettway. Terry just completely dominated him, knocking him down twice before he set up one of the best body shot knockouts of all time in the 8th.

Not bad for a guy with a supposed glass chin, eh?

SLAKKA
08-14-2009, 03:43 PM
Hooligan Harry Greb vs Allentown Joe Gans 10 round ass whipping!!
His last GREAT fight.

.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} By this time the Dutchman was so freekin old, blind, years past his incredible prime, fighting with his head tilted sideways so he could see his opponent, vs an excellent fighter good enough to hold Jack Delaney to a draw in the reports of the 3 Wilkes Barre papers at ringside.

The public wasn't aware he could no longer make 160 and fight at all so in his next battle vs Flowers he was a mere shadow.

Jun 15 1926 Harry Greb 165lb vs Allentown Joe Gans Wilkes-Barre, Pa W 10

Rourke
08-15-2009, 02:47 PM
Tyson against Ruddock. Ruddock was on a tear from 86-91, going 16-0 with 15 of them ending inside the distance. Out of those 16, 3 were former titlists in Mike Weaver, Michael Dokes, and Bonecrusher Smith. Razor's smash had ATG power.

Ruddock was viewed very, very highly and they beat the tar out of each other in both meetings. It should be noted that most thought Ruddock was the top guy even after Tyson beat him twice (after Tyson was sent to prison). Very good win and one that gets overlooked.

Good one!

I nominate Mike defeating Tony Tucker, it was a helluva tough fight that I just watched a week ago on YouTube, Tucker actually thought he won, it was a tough, tough fight for both guys and I feel it's very underrated.

GPater11093
08-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Arguello over Boza edwards is often overlooked

Duran vs Palomino is another people always Duran looked awesome etc.. in it but people forget how good Palomino was

SLAKKA
08-19-2009, 02:02 AM
How clever was Teddy Yarosz as a boxer? I"'ll tell you how clever," Ray Arcel answered. He was that clever I thought he beat Billy Conn three times, not once as the books say and to me Billy Conn was the greatest light heavy of all time and rates right up there with the best fighters in history.


Al Abrams .
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive - Jul 3, 1974