Question About Zab's Punching Power.

[Sug3]

Zab's best ko win's were against reggie green and spinks,terron millet,but besides that who has he really ko'ed,we all talk about his punching power,but to me he stuns guy's and i think spinks got careless and got caught and never recovered.

Zab's punching power is overrated and once cotto,kostya,floyd and baldomir realized they could take his best punch zab fell apart mentally after that.

Zab showed in the edwin vasquez fight that his punching power is gone,because if he cant take a guy like edwin who freitas ko'ed in 97 and torres ko'ed 05,we can all agree that zab hasn't been the same fighter since kostya tszyu gave him the harlem shake.

[Boricua - TLH]

Zab's best ko win's were against reggie green and spinks,terron millet,but besides that who has he really ko'ed,we all talk about his punching power,but to me he stuns guy's and i think spinks got careless and got caught and never recovered.

Zab's punching power is overrated and once cotto,kostya,floyd and baldomir realized they could take his best punch zab fell apart mentally after that.

Zab showed in the edwin vasquez fight that his punching power is gone,because if he cant take a guy like edwin who freitas ko'ed in 97 and torres ko'ed 05,we can all agree that zab hasn't been the same fighter since kostya tszyu gave him the harlem shake.

Zab's punching power is above average at 140, but average at 147... simple as that... It's like Cotto takes longer to break people down at 147, than he did at 140... If he were to go up to 154 as some thing he would in the future, I don't think he'd stop much people up there. Mayweather's punching power was decent at lower weights, but at 147 he can't break an egg... It's simple Physics...:deal

[Relentless]

weren't you picking zab to beat cotto because he was so 'powerful' and 'explosive' and a great 'finisher'

[Boricua - TLH]

weren't you picking zab to beat cotto because he was so 'powerful' and 'explosive' and a great 'finisher'

You ask me or the poster??

[Sug3]

weren't you picking zab to beat cotto because he was so 'powerful' and 'explosive' and a great 'finisher'

No if i could bring up my post before the fight started i picked zab early or cotto late.

[Boricua - TLH]

No if i could bring up my post before the fight started i picked zab early or cotto late.

So since you say that Sugar is no Judah, you pick Sugar early on this fight??

[Sug3]

So since you say that Sugar is no Judah, you pick Sugar early on this fight??

No,i pick mosley by tko or ko in any round,because,cotto's only chance is to break mosley down,but in order to do that he's gonna have to eat alot of punches,mosley also get's stronger late in the fight,so to me mosley wins by tko in the 10th round,cotto will keep coming,but mosley's skills will be too much for cotto.

[thewoo]

He can definatly crack plus his speed enables him to catch guys with shots that they don't see coming. He just relies way too much on that left hand.

[Boricua - TLH]

:deal No,i pick mosley by tko or ko in any round,because,cotto's only chance is to break mosley down,but in order to do that he's gonna have to eat alot of punches,mosley also get's stronger late in the fight,so to me mosley wins by tko in the 10th round,cotto will keep coming,but mosley's skills will be too much for cotto.

If Cotto feels he can take Mosley's best shot during the first couple of rounds we will see a long term stoppage in favor of Cotto. If he sees that Mosley has too much power to stand constant banging, you will see Cotto fight much more tactically and spending time counter punching... Something that carachterized his style early on on his career, and that we haven't seen in a while because he hasn't had the need to use it in his latest fights. Some people forget that Cotto used to come with a "peek-a-boo" type defense that was really hard to break through, and if he needs to use it, he will use it. Cotto by late stoppage or UD...

[Fab2333]

He can definatly crack plus his speed enables him to catch guys with shots that they don't see coming. He just relies way too much on that left hand.:thumbsup

[jonesjrp4p1]

he has real good power and like someone else said his speed enables him to catch them off guard which helps.......i think his ko of cosme showed he had some serious power after berto not even hurting him.......i think hes lost some though

[Sug3]

:deal

If Cotto feels he can take Mosley's best shot during the first couple of rounds we will see a long term stoppage in favor of Cotto. If he sees that Mosley has too much power to stand constant banging, you will see Cotto fight much more tactically and spending time counter punching... Something that carachterized his style early on on his career, and that we haven't seen in a while because he hasn't had the need to use it in his latest fights. Some people forget that Cotto used to come with a "peek-a-boo" type defense that was really hard to break through, and if he needs to use it, he will use it. Cotto by late stoppage or UD...

I dont hate cotto and u make alot of sense and if both guy's can take each other's best,it will come down to who want's it more,i'm a cotto fan and ifhe wins against one of my fav fighter's,i will become a bigger fan no doubt,but many are not giving mosley a chance,because his age,that's what angers me.

I just have a feeling mosley will put on another perfomrance like de la hoya 1,u cool with me and may the best warrior win.

[Boricua - TLH]

I dont hate cotto and u make alot of sense and if both guy's can take each other's best,it will come down to who want's it more,i'm a cotto fan and ifhe wins against one of my fav fighter's,i will become a bigger fan no doubt,but many are not giving mosley a chance,because his age,that's what angers me.

I just have a feeling mosley will put on another perfomrance like de la hoya 1,u cool with me and may the best warrior win.

Definately a fight for the ages will unfold come November 10... We are lucky enough to have the opportunity to be witnesses!

[bigeddie27]

Look if you cannot look at Judah and admit he has AWESOME power in his punches you really need to either:

a: watch more boxing, you clearly have not seen enough
or
b: stop watching boxing because you clearly dont recognize talent when you see it

Now my favorite part, lets look at the facts:

-Zab was the only fighter that i know of who knocked mayweather down (and yes it was not officially scored a knockdown, but if you honeslty believe that was not a knockdown i really do not want to discuss boxing with you)

-He also stunned kosta very badly in their fight with one left uppercut, Kosta has a solid chin (i know he lost that fight, but rememeber we are talking about punching power here. Hatton did not affect kosta like that with one punch, it took him a long beatdown and Kosta was older in that fight)

-Knocked out Cosmo Rivera in one round (lets see Joel Julio took him the full 12 and Andre Berto took him the full 12 as well, do u claim they do not have power either? because if you claim judah does not neither do they and you are an idiot simply for stating that)

-hurt cotto, have not really seen many do that to Cotto except for only torres and corley. We know Torres has power and corley too (remember Corley hurt mayweather in thier fight)

-knocked out cory spinks - Mayorga is the only other fighter to knock him down (Mayorga should have won that fight imo, the fact they were called slips is BS), but not out. Zab judah knocked him out. Mayorga has power, remember he knocked out forest.

[JMonster]

i like zab, and i might have to agree he hasn't been the same since he fought tzsyu...but also...he hasn't been focused on boxing. everytime a boxer starts bein seen in music videos, everywhere on t.v., making music. they always lose...which makes me sad that mayweather is going to be on the next dancing w/ the stars!!

[Danny Ocean]

judah is just plain overated

[d0pestradamus]

I personally think that whatever 'explosiveness' or flare Judah had left in his tank got drained and simply vanished from all of the accumulated hard shots he took in his bout with Cotto. Maybe he was just shaky coming off of the TKO..who knows.

[jecxbox]

Zab might not have concussive KO power but he has speed and with speed you can stun just about anyone. Honestly anyone can get dropped by a simple punch that isn't very hard if you didn't see it coming. If you saw a punch coming you could most likely take a punch 10x harder than the weakter punch that you didn't see coming. This is why Zab Judah is dangerous, his speed allows him to counter punch people when they have no idea where it came from. The brain has no way to brace and prepare itself when it gets blindsided by a punch it never saw.

James Toney never really had sickening KO power, but that guy knocked people the f out.. why? cus his punches are all counters and shots you really aren't expecting.

Why was Trinidad able to take the sick beating that he absorbed by Hopkins for 12 rounds but when that right counter landed he was 100% destroyed because he was perfectly countered not really because it was a mike tyson type of punch. Speed fighters like Zab are always dangerous because they can counter even faster.

[bigeddie27]

jecxbox ([Only registered and activated users can see links]): speed = power and power = speed, they both amount to the same thing - opponenet knocked out, knocked down, or hurt. I consider his speed as part of his power which is what this discussion is about. At least according to the parent poster who said Judah's power is overrated which is blasphemy. You cannot consider yourself a knowledgeable fan by claiming that. look, his chin might not be the best, and his ring smarts might not be the best, but to claim his power is overrated is just a hater statement all day. Zab will give anyone problems and he will be back mark my words.