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radab
08-14-2009, 06:21 PM
I'm not on any Anderson hype train, i've thought this would be intriguing for a long time now :bart


Bet most of you pick Brock "The Pain" Lesnar, but i'm interested to see those who don't


God bless ya fellas


:hat

Grievesy
08-14-2009, 06:27 PM
I think this talk of Anderson Silva fighting at heavyweight is stupid personally. You can't expect him to fight guys who are cutting down to 265 when he's cutting down comfortably to 185.

Beebs
08-14-2009, 07:27 PM
Well Anderson tends to start a bit slow during 5 rounders, and Lesnar tends to explode right into the fight.

I imagine Lesnar would get the takedown almost right away, and then either end it right there, or grind it out and either end it late or get the decision.

Anderson's strikes can definitely be effective; but Lesnar is a huge HW with a thick neck, although it's still conjecture, I imagine his chin is pretty solid. I don't see Silva being good off his back against Lesnar, which is where the fight takes place most of the time.

radab
08-14-2009, 08:10 PM
Well Anderson tends to start a bit slow during 5 rounders, and Lesnar tends to explode right into the fight.

I imagine Lesnar would get the takedown almost right away, and then either end it right there, or grind it out and either end it late or get the decision.

Anderson's strikes can definitely be effective; but Lesnar is a huge HW with a thick neck, although it's still conjecture, I imagine his chin is pretty solid. I don't see Silva being good off his back against Lesnar, which is where the fight takes place most of the time.




Anderson would be expecting a bullrush start, so if Brock tried a Mir, he'd get pancaked

Cant see Brock wanting to stand with Anderson - on a guy so humungous, Anderson would definitely be looking for brutal combos

Anderson's reflexes are amongst the very best in MMA, when Brock attempted the takedown, he'd be in a lot of danger

If he did manage to get him down relatively unscathed, then thats when the fight totally changes. Brocks size and skill on the ground, well you cant really see Anderson being able to get the fight back up at all. And Brock's well wise to any sub attempts now

If Anderson could take it into the later rounds, The Pain would surely slow considerably, leaving himself open to savage strikes. If Brock had been lying on top of him half the fight, Anderson would be feeling it badly too, but not as bad as such a huge guy like Brock


I really think it's a pick em

Arka
08-14-2009, 08:23 PM
Would this sort of fight even be sanctioned? :think

sugarngold
08-14-2009, 08:25 PM
I'll take Machida and Anderson Silva over Lesnar. Their speed, mobility, and well rounded attributes would give them the ability to run circles around Lesnar to a UD.

achillesthegreat
08-14-2009, 08:54 PM
Pac moved up in weight in and proved his talent could move through the weight classes. He suprised me with his level of talent. It is possible, ala RJJ. Silva seems to have taken it into his second weight class. A third weight class is possible.

HOWEVER, at this stage I couldn't bet against Brock for the simple reason that he is a beast of a man who I suspect would want to treat Silva like a ragdoll. Silva has power but I'm not sure if it could transfer to the heavies. Even with an average chin, a 265lb man should be quite durable against a natural 185-200lb man. But then when you reach 185-200lbs you really can crack any chin i.e. Ali got put down by small men and he had a great chin against the big guys.

I predict Brock to be explosive and take Silva down while he protects from the sub. The Mir fights will have been great experience for him.

196osh
08-14-2009, 08:55 PM
I think Lesnar would take him down and pound him out. Anderson would weigh at least 50lbs less than Lesnar, and most likley closer to 70lbs.

If Anderson does not take him out standing up then he will get rag dolled.

Lesnar TKO

OuterDrake
08-14-2009, 09:55 PM
Well Anderson tends to start a bit slow during 5 rounders, and Lesnar tends to explode right into the fight.

I imagine Lesnar would get the takedown almost right away, and then either end it right there, or grind it out and either end it late or get the decision.

Anderson's strikes can definitely be effective; but Lesnar is a huge HW with a thick neck, although it's still conjecture, I imagine his chin is pretty solid. I don't see Silva being good off his back against Lesnar, which is where the fight takes place most of the time.

who says the fight even hits the ground?

Silva actually has foot work to neutralize Brock

Silva would pick his legs off, taking the sting off his takedown.

Brock hasn't fought any decent striker. After Kongo murders mir. He'll be in title shot contention.:blurp

Polymath
08-14-2009, 10:15 PM
who says the fight even hits the ground?

Silva actually has foot work to neutralize Brock


No he doesn't :lol:

You can't 'sidestep' a takedown from somebody like lesnar. This is why you do stupid things like be a Cheik Kongo fan - you don't understand the basics of how the sport works.

Grievesy
08-14-2009, 10:17 PM
No he doesn't :lol:

You can't 'sidestep' a takedown from somebody like lesnar. This is why you do stupid things like be a Cheik Kongo fan - you don't understand the basics of how the sport works.


:rofl:rofl:rofl

Fucking hell that was quality.

OuterDrake
08-14-2009, 10:59 PM
No he doesn't :lol:

You can't 'sidestep' a takedown from somebody like lesnar. This is why you do stupid things like be a Cheik Kongo fan - you don't understand the basics of how the sport works.




Silva doesn't sidestep. he gets the clinch and pushes his hips away.

Delivering brutal knees. His style is perfect for defeating Brock. Size is his only liability, but silva is a smart fighter.

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rekcutnevets
08-14-2009, 11:41 PM
There was a thread getting a lot of posts in recent weeks concerning Lesnar's quote about "gays." Unconcerned about what any sociological views Lesnar might have, I read the article it came from anyway. Turns out it was from 2004 when Lesnar was making a try at being an NFL player. I learned a few things from the article, which can be read at [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Nobody questions his tenacity. His strength. His pure athletic ability. A few weeks after his wrestling career came to an end with a Wrestlemania loss to Goldberg, Lesnar ran the 40-yard dash in 4.7 seconds, a blistering time for a man his size. He has a 10-foot standing broad jump. A 35-inch vertical leap, not to mention the bench and squat numbers. It's the tools of an NFL running back power packed into a gladiator's frame.
Lesnar is an incredible, once in a life time type of athlete. He is not some brute that you can merely dance around. Lesnar is fast for small person standards. Jerry Rice is arguably the greatest wide receiver in NFL history. Rice, though not the fastest receiver, ran times similar to Lesnar. Rice is around 100lbs. lighter.

I am forced to remember Keith Hackney vs Emmanuel Yarborough with suggestions of completely writing Silva off. However, a Hackney like win is very unlikely. Lesnar would run after his smaller foe knowing that respecting his distance is the one thing he can't do in such a match. I believe Lesnar would get Silva on the ground rather quickly. If Silva can defend Lesnar's ground and pound, a stand up would likely follow, then repeated take downs would likely occur.

It's hard for me to imagine Silva winning this fight.

J_Roth
08-15-2009, 12:55 AM
Silva is a phenom but Lesnar is a stud and would use every inch of his size to beat the smaller man. Keep in mind that Anderson would be weighing in around 25-30 lbs higher than his natural division. He already looks soft at LHW.

Thom
08-15-2009, 01:51 AM
No he doesn't :lol:

You can't 'sidestep' a takedown from somebody like lesnar. This is why you do stupid things like be a Cheik Kongo fan - you don't understand the basics of how the sport works.:lol:

Beebs
08-15-2009, 03:41 AM
who says the fight even hits the ground?

Silva actually has foot work to neutralize Brock

Silva would pick his legs off, taking the sting off his takedown.

Brock hasn't fought any decent striker. After Kongo murders mir. He'll be in title shot contention.:blurp

What a joke. Who says the fight hits the ground? Lesnar says the fight hits the ground. Just like Lutter said, just like Hendo said, just like most people who have tried to take him down and had good takedowns said. The one part of Anderson's game that is not world class is his takedown defense, because he doesn't mind being on his back too much, the problem is he needs to mind when its Lesnar on top of him.

The difference is Lesnar is 265+ and a top level wrestler in MMA. The fight hits the ground, there is no question; the idea that Silva is going to be able to stop a takedown with "footwork" is just laughable.

Mir is going to beat Kongo just like he did Hardonk, with no problems. Title shot contention? Certainly doesn't deserve it after that ass beating Cain Velasquez put on him.

Tuffnutz
08-15-2009, 04:12 AM
Anderson could keep this standing and pick apart Brock with his speed and swat him like Pac swating De La Hoya. .

If Brock get's just one take down though I dont know what Anderson can do off his back againts a huge beast like Brock.

BoxingFanNo1
08-15-2009, 04:19 AM
Silva has better speed, accuracy, timing, technique and stamina.
Lesnar has power and size.

Lesnar takes Silva down, fight over. He's just too small to deal with Brock imo hence why I voted Lesnar.

But what I will say is if this was purely a stand up fight I'd give it to Silva.

Bill Butcher
08-15-2009, 07:26 AM
I'm not on any Anderson hype train, i've thought this would be intriguing for a long time now :bart


Bet most of you pick Brock "The Pain" Lesnar, but i'm interested to see those who don't


God bless ya fellas


:hat

Its possible that Silva could KO him, I mean he`s a higher level fighter by far in a p4p sense, quite big himself & a chin is a chin regardless of the size of opponent.

I`ll go with Lesnar tho, Silva`s BJJ & takedown defence is no better than Mir`s IMO & Lesnar more or less made those skills void, Id imagine he`d do the same to Silva.

You never know but my pick has to be Lesnar unfortunately.


Botswana :smoke

jc
08-15-2009, 08:23 AM
Size matters.

HeavyT
08-15-2009, 10:42 AM
Lesnar would win by sheer size... I'm not even sure how Anderson would be at heavyweight, but I'm guessing you didn't think about that too much Radab :good

ufoalf
08-15-2009, 06:25 PM
This is a joke question. I think Silva is Top 3 skill wise fighters in the world, with Fedor and GSP with him. But Brock is too fucking big. Seriously, people are betting against Fedor because of Brocks size.

Brock runs Silva down, takes him down, and smothers him for first round. This fight will be over at MOST(only via miracle) inside 2 rounds.

Weber
08-15-2009, 06:30 PM
This is a joke question. I think Silva is Top 3 skill wise fighters in the world, with Fedor and GSP with him. But Brock is too fucking big. Seriously, people are betting against Fedor because of Brocks size.

Brock runs Silva down, takes him down, and smothers him for first round. This fight will be over at MOST(only via miracle) inside 2 rounds.

Those people are fucking retarded though :lol:

codeman99998
08-15-2009, 08:05 PM
Anderson could keep this standing and pick apart Brock with his speed and swat him like Pac swating De La Hoya. .

If Brock get's just one take down though I dont know what Anderson can do off his back againts a huge beast like Brock.

Yea, but Oscar wasn't trying to take down Pac, he was trying to BOX pac in a boxing match.

Vanboxingfan
08-15-2009, 10:18 PM
I think Anderson either has to get a couple of knees in when Lesnar rushes or hope to get a submission hold on Brock would he's down. But personally I don't like a fighters changes when his options are limited, so I'd pick Brock. The longer the fight lasts, though the better I like Anderson's chances.

However, regarding the size issue, while I'd pick Lesnar over Anderson, I'd pick Fedor over Lesnar.

sugarngold
08-15-2009, 11:30 PM
Listen people: SPEED KILLS. That is the answer. Not size and strength.

Fighting Pride
08-15-2009, 11:48 PM
Where's the 'LOL' option?

sugarngold
08-16-2009, 12:15 AM
Eat my ass n00b. I'll put my avatar on the line if the fight ever came off.

radab
08-16-2009, 12:31 AM
Eat my ass n00b. I'll put my avatar on the line if the fight ever came off.





:lol: who you talkin to?

sugarngold
08-16-2009, 12:35 AM
Well - no one really. I was just being a jerk.

radab
08-16-2009, 04:36 AM
Silva is a phenom but Lesnar is a stud and would use every inch of his size to beat the smaller man. Keep in mind that Anderson would be weighing in around 25-30 lbs higher than his natural division. He already looks soft at LHW.




:huh

Dantes
08-16-2009, 05:10 AM
Well Anderson tends to start a bit slow during 5 rounders, and Lesnar tends to explode right into the fight.

I imagine Lesnar would get the takedown almost right away, and then either end it right there, or grind it out and either end it late or get the decision.

Anderson's strikes can definitely be effective; but Lesnar is a huge HW with a thick neck, although it's still conjecture, I imagine his chin is pretty solid. I don't see Silva being good off his back against Lesnar, which is where the fight takes place most of the time.

:good