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McGrain
08-16-2009, 10:15 AM
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POUND-FOR-POUND TOP 10

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1. David Haye
- Heavyweight
London (22-1, 21KOs)
Haye may now fight Vitali Klitschko in September, and he will have his work cut out against the giant Ukrainian, the WBC title-holder.

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2. Carl Froch
- Super-middleweight
Nottingham (25-0, 20KOs)
Froch produced one of the great comebacks to beat Jermain Taylor and is surely careering towards a unification with Denmark's Mikkel Kessler.

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3. Ricky Hatton
- Light-welterweight
Manchester (45-2, 32KOs)
Hatton was knocked out in two rounds by pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas and his extraordinary career may now be over.

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4. Amir Khan
- Lightweight
Bolton (21-1, 15KOs)
Khan claimed the WBA light-welterweight title with a classy victory over Andreas Kotelnik to silence the doubters. Could a fight against Ricky Hatton be the next step?

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5. Junior Witter
- Light-welterweight
Bradford (37-3-2, 22KOs)
Witter's hopes of fighting Amir Khan went up in smoke when he lost to Devon Alexander in trying to reclaim the WBC light-welterweight belt. Difficult to see what options he has left.

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6. Kevin Mitchell
- Super-featherweight
Dagenham (28-0, 21KOs)
The British champion's world title hopes have been frustrated by injuries, to both himself and potential opponents, but recorded a stoppage win on the Khan-Kotelnik undercard.

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7. Kell Brook
- Welterweight
Sheffield (20-0, 13KOs)
Originally a product of the same Sheffield gym as Naseem Hamed, Brook has been tipped for world honours and defended his British title with ease against Michael Lomax in July.

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8. John Murray
- Lightweight
Manchester (25-0, 13KOs)
Could the British champion, and not the much-hyped Amir Khan, be the man to make a splash on the world stage? Battled to victory over Lee McAllister in January.

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9. Jamie Moore
- Light-middleweight
Salford (32-3, 23KOs)
Moore gave an impressive display in stopping Ukrainian Roman Dzuman in two rounds in Sunderland to defend his European title. Moore is now targeting a world title fight.

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10. Clinton Woods
- Light-heavyweight
Sheffield (42-4-1, 24KOs)
Woods looked a spent force in losing to Antonio Tarver, but has landed another crack at his old IBF light-welterweight belt against Travis Cloud on 28 August.





Thoughts? Got your own list?

ryanm8655
08-16-2009, 10:23 AM
I'd shift Jamie Moore upto 6th and Woods up too...

GazOC
08-16-2009, 10:24 AM
Woods too low.

TFFP
08-16-2009, 10:24 AM
The lower half is poor. Clinton Woods should be in 6th on that list, closely followed by Jamie Moore. Kevin Mitchell hasn't done enough, neither have John Murray or Kell Brook.

GazOC
08-16-2009, 10:26 AM
Moore should be at least 1 and probably 2 places higher.

Beeston Brawler
08-16-2009, 10:29 AM
Froch should have above Haye for starters......

Moore should be much higher.....

Brook hasn't beaten a fighter that can both give and take a punch.....

Murray has beaten who, exactly - that hasn't been beaten by Khan or Thaxton?

TFFP
08-16-2009, 10:31 AM
I havn't got a problem with Murray, Brook and Mitchell on the list but they should be the bottom three. They are probably the most 'proven' of the fighters we have that are on the fringes of world class.

kosaros
08-16-2009, 10:33 AM
1. David Haye (22-1)
2. Carl Froch (25-0)
3. Ricky Hatton (45-2)
4. Amir Khan (21-1)
5. Junior Witter (37-2-2)
6. Clinton Woods (42-4-1)
7. Jamie Moore (32-3)
8. Kell Brook (20-0)
9. Kevin Mitchell (29-0)
10. Nathan Cleverly (17-0)

Here is the Brit forums top 10.

GazOC
08-16-2009, 10:33 AM
The Beebs list looks like a lucky dip after number 5.

TFFP
08-16-2009, 10:35 AM
1. David Haye (22-1)
2. Carl Froch (25-0)
3. Ricky Hatton (45-2)
4. Amir Khan (21-1)
5. Junior Witter (37-2-2)
6. Clinton Woods (42-4-1)
7. Jamie Moore (32-3)
8. Kell Brook (20-0)
9. Kevin Mitchell (29-0)
10. Nathan Cleverly (17-0)

Here is the Brit forums top 10.
That's much more realistic. So its got Cleverly instead of Murray, but apart from that its exactly as I said with the 'potential' world challengers behind the actual proven top fighters. And Moore inbetween, because he's a European champ and has beaten the best domestic fighters.

GazOC
08-16-2009, 10:40 AM
1. David Haye (22-1)
2. Carl Froch (25-0)
3. Ricky Hatton (45-2)
4. Amir Khan (21-1)
5. Junior Witter (37-2-2)
6. Clinton Woods (42-4-1)
7. Jamie Moore (32-3)
8. Kell Brook (20-0)
9. Kevin Mitchell (29-0)
10. Nathan Cleverly (17-0)

Here is the Brit forums top 10.

Thats my top 7 as well and the other 3 are close calls that can be argued either way.

'Ben'
08-16-2009, 11:05 AM
How the fuck is Mitchell and Murray above Jamie Moore?

'Ben'
08-16-2009, 11:05 AM
There is already a brit list on this forum anyway.

GazOC
08-16-2009, 11:08 AM
There is already a brit list on this forum anyway.


See posts 8, 10 and 11 in this thread for details....;)

Dan684
08-16-2009, 11:09 AM
I wouldn't have Mitchell in my top 10 at the moment !

robpalmer135
08-16-2009, 11:13 AM
Nicky Cook should be top 10

Dan684
08-16-2009, 11:15 AM
Nicky Cook has every right to be in there above Mitchell

Lewisbell
08-16-2009, 11:27 AM
Haye
Froch
Hatton
Shola Ameobi - Ola Afalobi
Woods
Khan
Moore
Macklin
Small

'Ben'
08-16-2009, 11:48 AM
Haye
Froch
Hatton
Shola Ameobi - Ola Afalobi
Woods
Khan
Moore
Macklin
Small


Interesting that not many people are going for Rhodes.... does everyone feel he really did duck Small? I'd like to see the loser of Moore vs Rhodes to fight Small and the winner to go and fight for a world title.

cool-cat
08-16-2009, 12:35 PM
1. Hatton
2. Froch
3. Haye
4. Khan
5. Moore
6. Witter
7. Woods
8. Macklin
9. Cook
10. Brook

kosaros
08-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Haye
Froch
Hatton
Shola Ameobi - Ola Afalobi
Woods
Khan
Moore
Macklin
Small

1. Hatton
2. Froch
3. Haye
4. Khan
5. Moore
6. Witter
7. Woods
8. Macklin
9. Cook
10. Brook

Where were you lads when I was looking for P4P lists! :lol:

cool-cat
08-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Where were you lads when I was looking for P4P lists!

dont no what you laughing at i cant understand what every one is doing rateing Haye and froch ahead of hatton. if you look at recent fights froch just won by the skin of his teeth against taylor and was hardly convivincing against pascal and with Haye he beat some shot glorified journey man by the name of monte barret. and beat a very average enzo maccarinelli. With Hatton he convoncionly beat malliganggi and got stopped by the pacquiao he is P4P number 1 in the world.

safc1990
08-16-2009, 01:18 PM
I know I'm slightly going away from the thread but I've found Sporting Life's world P4P list and it is a bit of a joke

1. Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Cotto
4. Hopkins
5. Mosley
6. Dawson
7. Vazquez
8. Williams
9. Lopez
10. Pavlik

Honorable mentions: Wlad, Diaz, Kessler, Guzman, Calderon

Dan684
08-16-2009, 01:44 PM
MichaelMCLA - I'll think you'll find the words WON that follwed the words HAYE and FROCH and the words EMBARASSINGLY KNOCKED OUT that should have follwed the word HATTON prbably explains why them two are above him !

Couple this witht the fact that in his last four fights he's been beat beaten up for 10 rounds then knocked out, nearly knocked out by a semi decent lightweight, beat a boxer who couldn't lay a beating on a heavy bag and then knocked flat out in 2 rounds by a man who used to be a light flyweight then it all makes sense

Beeston Brawler
08-16-2009, 01:48 PM
I know I'm slightly going away from the thread but I've found Sporting Life's world P4P list and it is a bit of a joke

1. Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Cotto
4. Hopkins
5. Mosley
6. Dawson
7. Vazquez
8. Williams
9. Lopez
10. Pavlik

Honorable mentions: Wlad, Diaz, Kessler, Guzman, Calderon

That isn't a joke..... it is seriously worrying.

Cotto isn't even near the top 5 IMO.

Dawson isn't top 10, nor Pavlik, Lopez or Vazquez (on activity).

They got the top 2 about right, and in the right order after Pacquiao's win over Hatton.

cool-cat
08-16-2009, 02:20 PM
i still think P4P Hatton is a lot better than both due to the opposition that he has faced and i think you seriously under rate maliggnagi as at the time he was rated no.2 Light-welter weight. I admit if haye can beat valulev and froch can beat andre direll then both fighters would over take Hatton in the ratings but until then he is still my choice for the best P4P britsh fighter at the moment. IMO.

Dan684
08-16-2009, 02:34 PM
Well fair enough mate your opinion is your own nobody can tell you what to think can they. mines different but hey ? It'd be boring on here if we all thought the same

kosaros
08-16-2009, 02:41 PM
dont no what you laughing at i cant understand what every one is doing rateing Haye and froch ahead of hatton. if you look at recent fights froch just won by the skin of his teeth against taylor and was hardly convivincing against pascal and with Haye he beat some shot glorified journey man by the name of monte barret. and beat a very average enzo maccarinelli. With Hatton he convoncionly beat malliganggi and got stopped by the pacquiao he is P4P number 1 in the world.

Seriously, is everyone trying to read what I say wrongly today or what?

All I asked is why you didn't send in your P4P list when I was asking for them a few weeks ago, I didn't ask for a lecture as to why Hatton should be top (which I think is wrong btw).

Dan684
08-16-2009, 02:50 PM
Dont worry about Kos Micheal he's just nasty :lol:

El Cepillo
08-16-2009, 02:53 PM
Makes depressing reading.

robpalmer135
08-16-2009, 03:36 PM
munroe should also be top 10