Who ranks higher in the Brit ATG list: Naz or Hatton?

[whufc89]

Great Debate on the Benn or Hatton Thread but what about Naz or Hatton !!

[ryanm8655]

Naz...beat much better competition than Hatton throughout his career imo...Lost to an ATG but wasn't so comprehensively outclassed as Hatton and was past it in the sense that he didn't have the hunger anymore.

[kosaros]

Naz.

[pne buz]

Hatton

[El Cepillo]

Hamed. Better resume. More substantial accomplishments. No brutal KO's losess on his record.

[scurlaruntings]

Why?!?!

[Pottypete]

The prince for me.

[manbearpig]

Definitely Naz.

[Dan684]

Hatton all day.

[TFFP]

Hamed, but I suppose you could argue this either way. Hamed never beat anybody with the name recognition of Kostya Tszyu. The rest of his wins are probably better as far as the decent contenders they both beat, Hamed probably beat more also.

[Beeston Brawler]

There isn't a great deal to choose between this pair.

You can argue it either way.

Hatton has the greatest single win.

Hamed has a better stack of solid opposition.

Hamed was soundly beaten by the one great fighter he faced.

Hatton was whooped by Floyd and Pacquiao.

Both defeated their fair share of decent-ish former champions.....

[TFFP]

The thing that swings it for me is Hamed is noticeably more skilled on film, and when he fought a legend he lost, but he won rounds and didn't get KO'd brutally.

[kurt2006]

Naz all the way, hatton does not even get close.

[Beeston Brawler]

The thing that swings it for me is Hamed is noticeably more skilled on film, and when he fought a legend he lost, but he won rounds and didn't get KO'd brutally.

Again, a pretty fair call.

Though I would argue that the versions of Mayweather and Pacquiao that Hatton faced were both superior to the Barrera that Hamed faced (who was arguably slightly past his absolute best) and harder style matches too.

MAB wasn't a natural counter puncher, IMO, but I must add that he fitted into that role superbly.

When Hatton could be bothered he could really box, not on the level of Hamed of course, but in that sense he is underrated.

[JonOli]

The thing that swings it for me is Hamed is noticeably more skilled on film, and when he fought a legend he lost, but he won rounds and didn't get KO'd brutally.


As good as MAB was, I think some people would argue that Floyd and Pac are higher ranked all time fighters.

[scurlaruntings]

Man its not even close. Hatton and his 15 WBU defences and world titles against guys no one had heard of and Naz one of Britains most precocious talents ever! The richest featherweight of all times and the biggest star on both sides of the atlantic. There is no comparison.

[cool-cat]

I think Naz over all he fought better opponents than Hatton and thats what wins it for me Hatton had the big win over tyszu and maybe castillo (shot or not he is still a big name) but Naz also had the big names eg. kelly, medina and vasquez. and never got badly KO.

[El Cepillo]

The argument for Hatton is basically: because he beat Kostya Tszyu. Well yeah, fair enough. But one swallow doesn't make a summer. While Hatton's resume fails off a cliff after his top 2 wins, Naz has 8-10 really solid names on his record. That's the big difference for me. Plus, as TFFP mentioned, Hamed looks awsome on film and he was a lot more dominant than Hatton over a similar peroid of time. They both established lineage, but Hamed did it much sooner and the only loss on his record is a points decision to MAB. Whereas Hatton has two brutal KO losses on his record. The inference being that Hamed could probablly just about cope at the elite level, whereas Hatton was pretty hopeless.

[TFFP]

As good as MAB was, I think some people would argue that Floyd and Pac are higher ranked all time fighters.
The point is Hamed won 4 rounds IMO, Hatton just looked hopeless, I gave him a single round in both fights, and he ended up out cold.

[Grievesy]

Definitely Naz.

[manbearpig]

The point is Hamed won 4 rounds IMO, Hatton just looked hopeless, I gave him a single round in both fights, and he ended up out cold.

Which of the two rounds did you award Hatton against Pacquiao?

[TFFP]

I gave him neither against Pacquiao, he may have sneaked a couple if you are generous against Mayweather.

[kosaros]

I may have gave Hatton 2 of the first 4 rounds in the Mayweather fight, but thats it - and I am a Hatton fan.

[Beeston Brawler]

I gave Hatton a share of the first five against Floyd..... the first was even, he won the 2nd close-ish, and deffo the 5th..... but he lost the 3rd and 4th by wider margins than the sessions that he won.

[GazOC]

Man its not even close. Hatton and his 15 WBU defences and world titles against guys no one had heard of and Naz one of Britains most precocious talents ever! The richest featherweight of all times and the biggest star on both sides of the atlantic. There is no comparison.

Naz gets my vote as well but Hattons WBU defences and the amount of money Naz earnt are almost totally irrelevant to the issue.

[Ste Hawkins]

The argument for Hatton is basically: because he beat Kostya Tszyu. Well yeah, fair enough. But one swallow doesn't make a summer. While Hatton's resume fails off a cliff after his top 2 wins, Naz has 8-10 really solid names on his record. That's the big difference for me. Plus, as TFFP mentioned, Hamed looks awsome on film and he was a lot more dominant than Hatton over a similar peroid of time. They both established lineage, but Hamed did it much sooner and the only loss on his record is a points decision to MAB. Whereas Hatton has two brutal KO losses on his record. The inference being that Hamed could probablly just about cope at the elite level, whereas Hatton was pretty hopeless.

Sums it up quite well I think.:bbb

[gallardo]

Which of the two rounds did you award Hatton against Pacquiao?

LMAO! I nearly choked on my cereal laughing when I read this comment. :rofl

[essexboy]

The Prince by quite a distance although they both ended up a laughing stock. Nas could have gone on to be a real legend but didnt have the heart.

[GazOC]

The Prince by quite a distance although they both ended up a laughing stock. Nas could have gone on to be a real legend but didnt have the heart.

Bit harsh mate, both had very good careers and certainly wern't laughing stocks.

[Darni187]

Prince Naseem Hamed


There will only be one Naz, the guy was one of a kind.

[essexboy]

Bit harsh mate, both had very good careers and certainly wern't laughing stocks.

They might not be over here but they are in America. After all Nas' arrogance he was badly beaten and didnt even try to avenge the loss in a rematch, but he does get some respect to be fair. The only thing Hatton will be remembered for is lying on his back against Pacquiao. It certainly isnt fair but thats the way I fear it will be.

[theboy_racer]

Naz of course.

[riggers]

Naz fought everyone in his weight class. In his 12th fight he fought the world rated Belcastro and dominated him. Freddy Cruz was better than 90% of the fighters Ricky fought in defence of his WBU title and he was pre title for Naz. Naz did not have the mega win of Tszyu, though to be fair Barrera was better than Tszyu and in his prime when he met him. Kelly, Soto, McCullough, Ingle ( 2 domestic rivals he fought cough cough Witter ), Medina, Johnson, Vasquez the list goes on and on. They are not the same as Tackie, Phillips et al. These guys were campaigning succesfully in their division and the majority were either world champions at the time or would be again soon. Hatton does not have that calibre on his resume.

['Ben']

Naz...beat much better competition than Hatton throughout his career imo...Lost to an ATG but wasn't so comprehensively outclassed as Hatton and was past it in the sense that he didn't have the hunger anymore.


Without doubt. With hatton you got the best you could of had from him.... but he just wasn't good enough. With Hamed you didn't see the best from him yet still achived in his career, what I feel is more impressive than what Hatton achived overall. He lost his hunger long before he fought Barrera.

[manbearpig]

I gave him neither against Pacquiao, he may have sneaked a couple if you are generous against Mayweather.
Yeah, I was wondering :lol:
10-7 then knocked the fuck out was how pacquiao went.

[Jeff Young]

Better skilled- Naz
Better Legacy- Hatton
Better Resume- You could argue this one either way, I think hatton's decade at 140, is a little bit better then some of the B level fighters Naz fought....but you could argue hamed's devision was a little stonger then hatton's 140 reign.....

tough call, but i have a feeling history will look more kindly on hatton then hamed...

[HeavyT]

Naz and its not close

[THE KNUCKLE]

Hatton got beat with probably the best that ever lived and ran into the best at his time in pac so fair game for takin the fights,naz bolted while being on 2 feet.....hatton was and still is a very good brawler,love 2 see a rematch with either 2 again ...dont quit m8

[riggers]

Better skilled- Naz
Better Legacy- Hatton
Better Resume- You could argue this one either way, I think hatton's decade at 140, is a little bit better then some of the B level fighters Naz fought....but you could argue hamed's devision was a little stonger then hatton's 140 reign.....

tough call, but i have a feeling history will look more kindly on hatton then hamed...

How do you get to these conclusions ? Hattons rarely fought anyone as good as a B level fighter. If Hameds division was stronger ( and he cleaned it out ) how are they B level opponents ? Then look at the bums Hatton fought usually

[UndisputedUK]

Naz, I can find no reason why to pick Hatton. Naz was unique. I believe if he had stayed with Brendan Ingle and behaved himself he would have lasted years longer.

[UndisputedUK]

Better skilled- Naz
Better Legacy- Hatton
Better Resume- You could argue this one either way, I think hatton's decade at 140, is a little bit better then some of the B level fighters Naz fought....but you could argue hamed's devision was a little stonger then hatton's 140 reign.....

tough call, but i have a feeling history will look more kindly on hatton then hamed...

Better legacy - Hatton yeah Knocked cold by Pac, knocked out by Mayweather Versus Hamed, outpointed by Barrera.

Better resume - Hatton beat up on lightweights. Hamed was a bantamweight \ superbantamweight who moved up to featherweight to beat Robinson. Hatton moved up and squeaked past a welterweight in Collazo.

:good

[GazOC]

Theres a lot of OTT stuff getting posted in order to try and make points. Neither fighter is an ATG who beat the best and niether fighter is a mug who beat bums.

[NO MAS]

Theres a lot of OTT shit getting posted in order to try and make points. Neither fighter is an ATG who beat the best and niether fighter is a mug who beat bums.

Well put GazOC...:good

[Betty Swollocks]

Hamed, hands down.
he'll be remembered as a great entertainer with chilling power, Hatton will be remembered as a boring, limited wrestler with a massively manufactured career and a propensity for getting sparked when stepping out of his comfort zone.

[Dan684]

Give it a rest.

["TKO"]

Hamed, hands down.
he'll be remembered as a great entertainer with chilling power, Hatton will be remembered as a boring, limited wrestler with a massively manufactured career and a propensity for getting sparked when stepping out of his comfort zone.

However much you may lie in bed at night masturbating to this fantasy, it's never going to be the case out in the real world! Go and take your funny pills there's a good lad! [makes virtual "wanker" sign]

[saint]

Naz

[widdy]

like gaz said they were both world class,but not elite,both got beat off atg.

like all boxers the world over,they fought good boxers and not so good boxers in there careers,shame knobheads always want to pick apart records.

[GazOC]

shame knobheads always want to pick apart records.

Indeed!:good