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Just want to get your opinion on this guys.
If Mundine had stayed in SMW and Defended his belt successfully, do you think he would have been included in the Super 6 tournament (lets assume the defense was not against Kessler as he is also in the tournament)? If so who of the current 6 would have missed out?
ashley
08-17-2009, 06:20 AM
Just want to get your opinion on this guys.
If Mundine had stayed in SMW and Defended his belt successfully, do you think he would have been included in the Super 6 tournament (lets assume the defense was not against Kessler as he is also in the tournament)? If so who of the current 6 would have missed out?
If he defended his title the yes.........They would ditch Squirrel or board :yep
MiracleMan
08-17-2009, 06:52 AM
Just want to get your opinion on this guys.
If Mundine had stayed in SMW and Defended his belt successfully, do you think he would have been included in the Super 6 tournament (lets assume the defense was not against Kessler as he is also in the tournament)? If so who of the current 6 would have missed out?
Yep its based on fan base/attention/interest. Dirrell Or Ward would have missed out. Or possibly even Abraham. Depending on the ratio of Europe and US fighters the producers wanted.
In the end the other factor in the equation is Khoder Nasser.. dont forget...
Francis75
08-17-2009, 07:37 AM
No he wouldn't because he would have had to have fought much much more credible opponents over the last 3 yrs or so then the bums and journeymen that have been taking him the distance and he probably would have not won all his fights in that time. All the boxers in the super 6 would beat Mundine in 2009/2010 imo and some by stoppage.
IrnBruMan
08-17-2009, 07:38 AM
Mundine would never have agreed to be part of something like that - he considers himself above such things.
Makes me think he must have seen it coming, which is why he ran down to MW, although, to be fair, he also had Kessler breathing down his neck at SMW.
Francis75
08-17-2009, 08:03 AM
Mundine would never have agreed to be part of something like that - he considers himself above such things.
Makes me think he must have seen it coming, which is why he ran down to MW, although, to be fair, he also had Kessler breathing down his neck at SMW.
Mundine didn't want any of Kessler again. He knew he couldn't compete with Kessler and pathetically gave up his "world title" with a BS excuse that he wanted to be a middleweight world champ. He had to go down to 160 as he would have looked like a real sad case if he gave up his 168 title because he was scared to face Kessler again then still continue fighting at 168.
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-17-2009, 09:34 PM
For a mid 30's fighter, a tournament where there's a series of closely sceduled fights and none of them easy, could quickly mean the end of the road.
the beaver
08-17-2009, 10:31 PM
Only real fighters enter events such as the super 6.
AustraHungarian
08-18-2009, 12:24 AM
Yep its based on fan base/attention/interest. Dirrell Or Ward would have missed out. Or possibly even Abraham. Depending on the ratio of Europe and US fighters the producers wanted.
No chance! Mundine brings to the table zip when compared with Dirrell, Ward or Abraham.
Why would Showtime want to limit their exposure in the US or Germany (two massive markets) to accomodate a minor market like Australia?
We all know the way Mundine operates and we can assume that if he had stayed as a super middle he would have continued to base himself in Australia (a'la his current modus operandi) and fought a conga line of chumps thereby making him our very own Zsolt Erdei. Bearing this in mind this is how the conversation would have gone between Showtime staff when contemplating Mundine:
Showtime Executive 1: "OK! We've got Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Taylor and Ward. Space left for one more! Who do we go with! My preference is for an exciting, up and coming American!"
Showtime Executive 2: "What about an Aussie like Anthony Mundine?"
Showtime Executive 1: "Who the fuck is Anthony Mundine?"
Showtime Executive 2: "He is that big mouthed Aussie who was knocked out by Sven Ottke (Both start pissing themselves laughing and guffawing uncontrollably), got dropped by Manny Siacca and Crazy Kim (continue pissing themselves laughing and guffawing uncontrollably) and whose most significant victories are over Antwon Echols and Sam Soliman" (Explsoion of laughter)
10 minute break whilst they compose themselves.
Showtime Executive 1: "I remember that fucking idiot! What is he up to now".
Showtime Executive 2: "He has defended his title 7 times including 3 successful defences against the great Soon Botes and another two against ring legend Darmel Castillo".
Showtime Executive 1: "Wow! What a fucking record! Very tempting but I think we will go with one of our own".
straight left
08-18-2009, 12:37 AM
Elias Nasser has told me that the winner of Victor Oganov and Alan Green will be the first reserve for the Super 6.
It should be great he has lined up in America - Oganov v Green for October, Lenny Zappa on the Chad Dawson undercard on HBO for November and The Bull for December.
Great for Aussie boxing and for the boys involved. Aussie aussie aussie !
MiracleMan
08-18-2009, 12:39 AM
No chance! Mundine brings to the table zip when compared with Dirrell, Ward or Abraham.
Why would Showtime want to limit their exposure in the US or Germany (two massive markets) to accomodate a minor market like Australia?
We all know the way Mundine operates and we can assume that if he had stayed as a super middle he would have continued to base himself in Australia (a'la his current modus operandi) and fought a conga line of chumps thereby making him our very own Zsolt Erdei. Bearing this in mind this is how the conversation would have gone between Showtime staff when contemplating Mundine:
Showtime Executive 1: "OK! We've got Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Taylor and Ward. Space left for one more! Who do we go with! My preference is for an exciting, up and coming American!"
Showtime Executive 2: "What about an Aussie like Anthony Mundine?"
Showtime Executive 1: "Who the fuck is Anthony Mundine?"
Showtime Executive 2: "He is that big mouthed Aussie who was knocked out by Sven Ottke (Both start pissing themselves laughing and guffawing uncontrollably), got dropped by Manny Siacca and Crazy Kim (continue pissing themselves laughing and guffawing uncontrollably) and whose most significant victories are over Antwon Echols and Sam Soliman" (Explsoion of laughter)
10 minute break whilst they compose themselves.
Showtime Executive 1: "I remember that fucking idiot! What is he up to now".
Showtime Executive 2: "He has defended his title 7 times including 3 successful defences against the great Soon Botes and another two against ring legend Darmel Castillo".
Showtime Executive 1: "Wow! What a fucking record! Very tempting but I think we will go with one of our own".
The fact that your comparing erdei to a guy who has fought echolls, kessler and danny green is laughable. You also show your genius through being unable to understand its about selling decent amounts of seats at home bouts during the super 6.
Also on the Oganov thing, i heard that fell through. But if it didn't im happy because i think Vics a chance.
AustraHungarian
08-18-2009, 12:47 AM
The fact that your comparing erdei to a guy who has fought echolls, kessler and danny green is laughable. You also show your genius through being unable to understand its about selling decent amounts of seats at home bouts during the super 6.
Also on the Oganov thing, i heard that fell through. But if it didn't im happy because i think Vics a chance.
And you show your genius by rating the likes of Echolls and Green or thinking Showtime gives two shits about Mundine's selling power in Australia!
ashley
08-18-2009, 01:52 AM
And you show your genius by rating the likes of Echolls and Green or thinking Showtime gives two shits about Mundine's selling power in Australia!
Mundine is a MW now and was never in contention for the super 6.
If he was still at SMW I think he would have been great for the super 6......for 1 reason......they need a villain :deal
MiracleMan
08-18-2009, 02:48 AM
And you show your genius by rating the likes of Echolls and Green or thinking Showtime gives two shits about Mundine's selling power in Australia!
Look im not here to just talk up Mundine all the time. He has made some very poor decisions over the past two years. But if he was still at SMW, even if he vacated against Kessler, he would still be well inside the top 6 and in the tournament. Saying he wouldn't is incorrect.
Look im not here to just talk up Mundine all the time. He has made some very poor decisions over the past two years. But if he was still at SMW, even if he vacated against Kessler, he would still be well inside the top 6 and in the tournament. Saying he wouldn't is incorrect.
That all being said and done, is it what Khoder would have wanted?? I mean it would leave him out of the picture for most of mundines next few bouts...
goodnight
08-18-2009, 03:35 AM
he is a nobody on the world stage and would have missed out regardless, his popularity/crowd pulling is nonexistant overseas.
ashley
08-18-2009, 03:45 AM
he is a nobody on the world stage and would have missed out regardless, his popularity/crowd pulling is nonexistant overseas.
Please remind me what pulling power Dirrell and Ward have outside of their country :huh
Please remind me what pulling power Dirrell and Ward have outside of their country :huh
Tend to agree ash....
but....
USA has 250+ million people and australia around 20 million....
Thats the deciding factor here...
ashley
08-18-2009, 04:24 AM
Tend to agree ash....
but....
USA has 250+ million people and australia around 20 million....
Thats the deciding factor here...
Yeah but they got taylor.....and one of the other guys :D
julian
08-18-2009, 05:36 AM
Interesting topic, but basically irrelevent.
Since fighting Green he has shown the boxing world exactly what he is made of.
Ran like a rabbit from Kessler, dropped a weight division in order to obtain world dominance and with the exception of Daniel Geale it has been nothing but car salesman crap that has spewed from the camp.
The thought of Mundine facing one of the big six mentioned is laughable.
These blokes pose a danger. They can actually fight.
Geale gave him the fright of his life and I'd be very surprised if a rematch ever takes place. My guess is he'd dump the belt before taking that risk again.
Anyway, why bother with name fighters when a bout with a legend such as Joy Ali,the Fijian Freak may be looming on the horizon.
MAN O MAN There are still Mundine believers out there, that's a scary thought!
Interesting topic, but basically irrelevent.
Since fighting Green he has shown the boxing world exactly what he is made of.
Ran like a rabbit from Kessler, dropped a weight division in order to obtain world dominance and with the exception of Daniel Geale it has been nothing but car salesman crap that has spewed from the camp.
The thought of Mundine facing one of the big six mentioned is laughable.
These blokes pose a danger. They can actually fight.
Geale gave him the fright of his life and I'd be very surprised if a rematch ever takes place. My guess is he'd dump the belt before taking that risk again.
Anyway, why bother with name fighters when a bout with a legend such as Joy Ali,the Fijian Freak may be looming on the horizon.
MAN O MAN There are still Mundine believers out there, that's a scary thought!
:good
What he said... :deal
roscoe
08-18-2009, 07:07 AM
Ward will surpise a lot of people. He's a class act with all the tools. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he wins this tournament.
AustraHungarian
08-18-2009, 07:16 PM
Look im not here to just talk up Mundine all the time. He has made some very poor decisions over the past two years. But if he was still at SMW, even if he vacated against Kessler, he would still be well inside the top 6 and in the tournament. Saying he wouldn't is incorrect.
Lucien Bute is top six as well but he did not get a look in therefore what chance would Mundine!
AustraHungarian
08-18-2009, 07:20 PM
Yeah but they got taylor.....and one of the other guys :D
Taylor still has name recognition in the States and Showtime probably see the Super 6 as an opportunity to showcase up and coming talent like Ward and Dirrell for even more lucrative bouts down the track.
Seriously, Mundine would have looked at that line-up and shat his dacks!
ashley
08-18-2009, 08:17 PM
Taylor still has name recognition in the States and Showtime probably see the Super 6 as an opportunity to showcase up and coming talent like Ward and Dirrell for even more lucrative bouts down the track.
Seriously, Mundine would have looked at that line-up and shat his dacks!
Mate if your still around when the super 6 is completed you will see that Kessler smashes the lot and wins easy.
Mundine went well against Kessler and would give the rest of these guys a good fight....I think Mundine would win more than 50% of his fights if he was in. :yep
AustraHungarian
08-18-2009, 09:54 PM
Mate if your still around when the super 6 is completed you will see that Kessler smashes the lot and wins easy.
Mundine went well against Kessler and would give the rest of these guys a good fight....I think Mundine would win more than 50% of his fights if he was in. :yep
I have no doubt Kessler will do very ell but winning easy????? Re your Mundine presidction, we will never know! But what we do know is that Mundine will stay in Australia fighting predominantly tomato cans while morons like you will continue to fork out PPV bucks for the trash he serves up! Nice work!
MiracleMan
08-18-2009, 09:56 PM
I have no doubt Kessler will do very ell but winning easy????? Re your Mundine presidction, we will never know! But what we do know is that Mundine will stay in Australia fighting predominantly tomato cans while morons like you will continue to fork out PPV bucks for the trash he serves up! Nice work!
I think you just got proven wrong. In the other Mundine thread Phil has confirmed Mundines next opponent, (well he has 3 Americans on a shortlist). Everything you have written in this thread has been incorrect and dripping with hatred.
Kessler will win the tourney easy...
IrnBruMan
08-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Mate if your still around when the super 6 is completed you will see that Kessler smashes the lot and wins easy.
Mundine went well against Kessler and would give the rest of these guys a good fight....I think Mundine would win more than 50% of his fights if he was in. :yep
:lol:
No mate, it was a loooooong time ago that Mundine survived those 12 rounds with Kessler.
He hasn't shown us anything since or lately that would sugeest he could handle Kessler again, nor the likes of Froch, Abraham or even Taylor at this stage of his career.
Mundine's chance at the bigtime passed some time ago and you know it, which is why you're happy to see him fight nobodies for second-tier belts :yep
AustraHungarian
08-19-2009, 01:33 AM
I think you just got proven wrong. In the other Mundine thread Phil has confirmed Mundines next opponent, (well he has 3 Americans on a shortlist). Everything you have written in this thread has been incorrect and dripping with hatred.
Kessler will win the tourney easy...
Really DipShitMan, don't see where I have been proven wrong and when he actually takes on his alleged American opponent then I will believe it! Face facts - this thread has been about whether Mundine would have ever got a look in on the Super 6 tournament and the answer is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. His name means zip on the world stage and he would not have had the balls to compete because he has a preference to take on easy beats in his own backyard!
No hatred for THE MAN, just calling it like it is! I actually had a huge wrap on him when he played for the Dragons but he has become quite boring and prediictable since then!
No issues with Kessler winning, I just doubt it will be easy because there are some excellent fighters in the mix!
Francis75
08-19-2009, 01:54 AM
Mate if your still around when the super 6 is completed you will see that Kessler smashes the lot and wins easy.
Mundine went well against Kessler and would give the rest of these guys a good fight....I think Mundine would win more than 50% of his fights if he was in. :yep
Ash, you must be on the windup here mate surely. Kessler may win the super 6 tournament but it certainly won't be easy work for him and Mundine was beaten easily by Kessler in Mundine's backyard and at the time Kessler was a bit of an unknown fighting in his first title fight. Kessler beat Mundine easily enough for Mundine to pathetically give up his "world title" without even making Kessler fight for it in a rematch.
Anthony would lose to all of the super 6 guys now mate. FFS he just went life and death with Geale at 160. He would lose to all of them and guys like Abraham and Froch would stop him. Either your a windup merchant or you have an unhealthy love for Anthony Mundine. :yep
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 01:59 AM
Ash, you must be on the windup here mate surely. Kessler may win the super 6 tournament but it certainly won't be easy work for him and Mundine was beaten easily by Kessler in Mundine's backyard and at the time Kessler was a bit of an unknown fighting in his first title fight. Kessler beat Mundine easily enough for Mundine to pathetically give up his "world title" without even making Kessler fight for it in a rematch.
Anthony would lose to all of the super 6 guys now mate. FFS he just went life and death with Geale at 160. He would lose to all of them and guys like Abraham and Froch would stop him. Either your a windup merchant or you have an unhealthy love for Anthony Mundine. :yep
How was it an easy fight for Kessler? he won by 4 rounds. Check Kesslers record. He wins most fights by a shutout and he definetely didn't win this by a shutout. Sure not rematching him was pathetic. But there first fight wasn't easy. And Kessler was coming off a loss. Not the type of guy you would want to fight for little recognition.
Ward and Dirrell are really unproven. So its Taylor and Froch at super. I would tip him over both Ward and Dirrell.
He didn't actually go life and death with Geale. He won that fight on my scorecard. He tried to fight the same way as he did in Soliman 3. Hes a counter puncher. He began to counter punch in the last 3 rounds and he won them.
Francis75
08-19-2009, 02:09 AM
How was it an easy fight for Kessler? he won by 4 rounds. Check Kesslers record. He wins most fights by a shutout and he definetely didn't win this by a shutout. Sure not rematching him was pathetic. But there first fight wasn't easy. And Kessler was coming off a loss. Not the type of guy you would want to fight for little recognition.
Ward and Dirrell are really unproven. So its Taylor and Froch at super. I would tip him over both Ward and Dirrell.
He didn't actually go life and death with Geale. He won that fight on my scorecard. He tried to fight the same way as he did in Soliman 3. Hes a counter puncher. He began to counter punch in the last 3 rounds and he won them.
Seriously this is complete nonsense. Kessler beat Mundine by a shutout on one judges card and the other judges had him up by 4 points each. Since when is that not an easy win in the champions backyard. :patsch And how is Anthony not pathetic for throwing away his title in the trash to fight journeymen rather than try and beat Kessler in a rematch.:patschAnd the fight with Geale was life and death for Anthony at his age mate. I also scored it to Mundine but it was damn close and a can understand that some thought that Geale may have deserved the decision.
Kegsy
08-19-2009, 02:12 AM
How was it an easy fight for Kessler? he won by 4 rounds. Check Kesslers record. He wins most fights by a shutout and he definetely didn't win this by a shutout. Sure not rematching him was pathetic. But there first fight wasn't easy. And Kessler was coming off a loss. Not the type of guy you would want to fight for little recognition.
Ward and Dirrell are really unproven. So its Taylor and Froch at super. I would tip him over both Ward and Dirrell.
He didn't actually go life and death with Geale. He won that fight on my scorecard. He tried to fight the same way as he did in Soliman 3. Hes a counter puncher. He began to counter punch in the last 3 rounds and he won them.
I have never been too high on Ward, i would still pick Ward to win a relatively closer fight...but no chance in hell Mundine beats Dirrell.
Dirrell is friggin huge at 168 & has better skills than Mundine does at this stage of his career. How the hell is Mundine is going to get inside on a guy way bigger than him & at least as quick as he is...its well beyond me.
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 02:14 AM
Seriously this is complete nonsense. Kessler beat Mundine by a shutout on one judges card and the other judges had him up by 4 points each. Since when is that not an easy win in the champions backyard. :patsch And how is Anthony not pathetic for throwing away his title in the trash to fight journeymen rather than try and beat Kessler in a rematch.:patschAnd the fight with Geale was life and death for Anthony at his age mate. I also scored it to Mundine but it was damn close and a can understand that some thought that Geale may have deserved the decision.
Just because Hank didn't show up on the night, doesn't mean scoring the 12 rounds to Kessler is right. Mundine started and finished well. Kessler was just to powerful in the middle rounds and it set the tone for the fight.
Mundine beat Geale. The commentary was awful. And so was everyones scoring. Mundine clearly won the last 3 rounds aswell. Geale is good. Saying hes not world class? Well how is Rubio or Lujan Simon world class? Lujan Simon gave Abraham hell in there bout. Also Rubio went 10 with Pavlik, and Rubio barely threw a punch.
Your to hard on Mundine. Yes ducking Kessler wasn't the right option. But Kessler himself will tell you the fight was hard.
And for any top 160 or 168 pounder. An in form Mundine is a bitch of a fight.
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 02:16 AM
I have never been too high on Ward, i would still pick Ward to win a relatively closer fight...but no chance in hell Mundine beats Dirrell.
Dirrell is friggin huge at 168 & has better skills than Mundine does at this stage of his career. How the hell is Mundine is going to get inside on a guy way bigger than him & at least as quick as he is...its well beyond me.
Yeh i might have jumped the gun on Dirrell. I have Dirrell to beat Froch by UD. I have only seen him against Oganov.
Kegsy
08-19-2009, 02:19 AM
Yeh i might have jumped the gun on Dirrell. I have Dirrell to beat Froch by UD. I have only seen him against Oganov.
This is a big call from me...but Dirrell has some attributes that remind me of Paul Williams...those insane physical attributes that will cause anyone at 168 huge problems, plus being very busy & quick on the outside.
Still a work in progress IMO but someone who in a few years could be a star.
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-19-2009, 02:27 AM
...He didn't actually go life and death with Geale. He won that fight on my scorecard. He tried to fight the same way as he did in Soliman 3. Hes a counter puncher. He began to counter punch in the last 3 rounds and he won them.
~ judge: Marcus McDonnell 114-113 | judge: Derek Milham 116-113 | judge: Richard Green 112-115 ~
That's a close SD to Mundine on the night and it was controversial enough for 3 more judges to be assigned to look at it and vote Mundine 1 and Geale 2.
So the 6 judges split it Mundine 3 and Geale 3.
Let's accept two things:
1/ It was a very, very close fight.
2/ Neither Mundine nor Geale had anything left in the tank.
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 02:29 AM
~ judge: Marcus McDonnell 114-113 | judge: Derek Milham 116-113 | judge: Richard Green 112-115 ~
That's a close SD to Mundine on the night and it was controversial enough for 3 more judges to be assigned to look at it and vote Mundine 1 and Geale 2.
So the 6 judges split it Mundine 3 and Geale 3.
Let's accept two things:
1/ It was a very, very close fight.
2/ Neither Mundine nor Geale had anything left in the tank.
The fight was close but Mundine clearly won it on my scorecard. The fight got recognized in the US as a terrific action fight, with both fighters showing that they are worthy of good rankings in the division. According to Dan Rafael himself.
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 02:30 AM
This is a big call from me...but Dirrell has some attributes that remind me of Paul Williams...those insane physical attributes that will cause anyone at 168 huge problems, plus being very busy & quick on the outside.
Still a work in progress IMO but someone who in a few years could be a star.
He is very rangy. Looked super quick against Oganov. Some US fans seem to think hes going to buckle under Frochs pressure. I do think he has the speed and skills to win. But im also not that sure on Froch. Because Froch beat Pascal, and Pascal looked like the best Light heavy in the world against Diaconu. But Pascal was counterpunching against Diaconu and he wanted to trade with Froch, maybe just going against his game plan.
Kegsy
08-19-2009, 02:34 AM
He is very rangy. Looked super quick against Oganov. Some US fans seem to think hes going to buckle under Frochs pressure. I do think he has the speed and skills to win. But im also not that sure on Froch. Because Froch beat Pascal, and Pascal looked like the best Light heavy in the world against Diaconu. But Pascal was counterpunching against Diaconu and he wanted to trade with Froch, maybe just going against his game plan.
Yeah i feel the same way actually about him...if he doesnt buckle under the pressure from a Froch type fighter who is a legit top 5 Super Middleweight then sky is the limit really.
I think he is the dark horse for the whole tournament.
Someone i would stick clear of if possible.
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-19-2009, 02:35 AM
The fight was close but Mundine clearly won it on my scorecard. The fight got recognized in the US as a terrific action fight, with both fighters showing that they are worthy of good rankings in the division. According to Dan Rafael himself.
All good, but what's being argued above is whether Mundine went life and death with Geale. As the 6 judges couldn't split them (3 either way), and neither fighter had any more to give, it's a no brainer for mine.
MiracleMan
08-19-2009, 02:37 AM
All good, but what's being argued above is whether Mundine went life and death with Geale. 6 qualified judges couldn't split them (3 votes either way). It's a no brainer!
He went life and death when he was trying to force the fight, Geale did really well. Outworked him. But when he went back to his game plan, which is to counter punch. And would be what he would do against elite fighters, he landed the cleaner shots late.
Kegsy, your right. Dirrell is brutal. 10 punches in 3 seconds on Oganov. [Only registered and activated users can see links] :admin
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-19-2009, 02:45 AM
He went life and death when he was trying to force the fight, Geale did really well. Outworked him. But when he went back to his game plan, which is to counter punch. And would be what he would do against elite fighters, he landed the cleaner shots late.
My point is that over the 12 rounds on the night there was nothing between Geale and Mundine. It can be argued that one shaded the other by a narrow margin, but there was very little to nothing between them.
Francis75
08-19-2009, 02:46 AM
i agree with you guys regarding Dirrell. He is incredibly quick and athletic but completely unproven so it's hard to gauge how the fight with Froch will go. I think Dirrell might have to go to the well once or twice if he is to beat Froch. If forced to make a pick i would go with Froch in England but Froch is not greatly skilled and shouldn't reign for long with his skills and style imo. Dirrell definately has a shot to beat Froch. Can't wait for these fights.
The fight with Geale was extremely close. I think the first time I watched it I was leaning towards mundine, but the d2nd time I watched it and scored each round on its won merit it actually ended up being a draw. MiracleMan its probably not wrong to say Mundine won that one (as it could have gone either way) but to say that he "clearly" won isnt right. Especially if you go by the theory of "the challenger has to take the title"...
Phil Austin
08-19-2009, 04:27 AM
The theory you mention mate is a fallacy - to fairly judge a fight means scoring red v blue. No fighter should be given an advantage over another
boxerbabe
08-21-2009, 12:27 PM
:lol:
No mate, it was a loooooong time ago that Mundine survived those 12 rounds with Kessler.
He hasn't shown us anything since or lately that would sugeest he could handle Kessler again, nor the likes of Froch, Abraham or even Taylor at this stage of his career.
Mundine's chance at the bigtime passed some time ago and you know it, which is why you're happy to see him fight nobodies for second-tier belts :yep
Whats choc been up to anyways i hate not being in oz an knowin whats goin on in the boxin scene:-(
boxerbabe
08-21-2009, 12:55 PM
As for danny geale i reckon he's a brilliant fighter him , he's a good lad :good
TheDuke
08-21-2009, 01:01 PM
you like bukkake?
boxerbabe
08-21-2009, 05:19 PM
Lmfao :lol:
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