Boxing is now so far behind the UFC its sad

[Action]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”

[IntentionalButt]

Ok. Should we compare dicks now?

[brooklyn1550]

Boxing's upcoming schedule is looking great...no need to worry

[C Money]

I saw a few minutes of the event and could stomach NO MORE:nono

Remember millions tune in to the WWE as well. If Boxing were to put its biggest events of free TV or cable NON-PPV, DLH vs PBF and many other events would eclipse that mark:yep

I dont hate on MMA or its athletes, they should replace the BS WWE. Its a totally different sport than boxing and as long as they continue the BS path of trying to promote a rivalry between them and Boxing, i wont support it.

Fuck Joe Rogaine and FUCK DANA WHITE:good

[Action]

Another comparison......boxing forums usually have 80-160 members viewing and posting while the top MMA forum might have 3,000-5,000 posting

[jecxbox]

Fuck the UFC. How about this for a thought, Give that shitty sport 0 attention and see how they like it - they won't because they've been banking off boxing in this ufc vs boxing debate way to much. Fuck em let them do what they do and boxing will do what they do. The great moments of boxing history and present will never be surpased because UFC fights are completely anticlimactic since they end right when it starts getting good. You will never have toe to toe wars in UFC and people just don't know the brutality of a 12 round boxing fight at first glance, but a 12 round war puts any sport to shame as far as physical damage goes. People are just to stupid to realize this. The real blood and guts is boxing.

[KO Boxing]

Remember millions tune in to the WWE as well.
:good

Well said, C Money.

UFC will never outdo Boxing... The two are very different forms of combat.

[jecxbox]

I'd rather watch 1 on 1 combat with athletes who are specialized in 1 martial art than watch these clowns basically just get into street fights in a cage and call themselves "mixed martial artists"..They can't perfect any style so when it all comes together the sport just pretty much sucks. I'd rather see 2 guys who are masters of only jujitsu go at it or 2 guys who are masters of any specific style than guys who are just about average at each.

[KillerInstinct]

Why is it a competition? As long as good boxing fights are being made and shown on television, UFC can have all the success it can get.

[1lehudson]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”yeah and 4.6 mil couldnt tell you who won because they were sleep. The first fight was pretty good after that it was hit and miss for me cuz i was in and out of sleep.

[PJD3]

Action I not trying to be dick but take that limp shit of here.
You can talk about golf, bowling, nascar, dartz, hell even pinpong
just not man on man rubb downs. :tdh
Why do the mma fighters wear smaller shorts than the chicks? :gayfight
IN BOXING THE CHICKS WEAR THE LITTLE SHORTS!:ahhhh
You cann't wear the same things the ring girls are wearing :hand
WELL I GUESS IN MMA YOU CAN!
And whats with all the oil downs and man waxing?:smh

[1lehudson]

Another comparison......boxing forums usually have 80-160 members viewing and posting while the top MMA forum might have 3,000-5,000 postingMMA appeals to the common man. When you have something that everyone thinks they can do it will do well in tv ratings and such, just look at all the texas holdm poker that is shown on tv. Guys watch MMA and think I can do that. In fact I know several out of shape slugs that call themselves MMA fighters. My problem with it is, it is a sport that some Joe nobody could climb in a do well. Right now you have several guys that are nothing more then street fighters climbing to the top of the sport.

[KO Boxing]

I'd rather watch 1 on 1 combat with athletes who are specialized in 1 martial art than watch these clowns basically just get into street fights in a cage and call themselves "mixed martial artists"..They can't perfect any style so when it all comes together the sport just pretty much sucks. I'd rather see 2 guys who are masters of only jujitsu go at it or 2 guys who are masters of any specific style than guys who are just about average at each.
I agree. While SOME can master a few techniques, learning such a mixture usually means that the MAJORITY of fighters, while pretty damn good in one or two specific areas, suck ABSOLUTE balls at the other techniques...

Makes 'em look sloppy, imho.

[KO Boxing]

By the way, I wouldn't have really any idea about UFC... But is Royce Gracey still seen as a God?

I can remember his days... And the days of the first UFC, where there were NO rules, and fighters used to fight out of their specific combat sport (e.g. I remember a martial artist specialist fighting a sumo specicialist in I think the very first UFC, each fighting their own technique. Martial artist knocked him out cold within the first few seconds. Awesome).

[He Hate Me]

:good Boxing's upcoming schedule is looking great...no need to worry

[PJD3]

joe rogan that cheerleader, has the worst fight commentary and insite for a combat sport that I ever heard. He makes Max Kellerman sound almost smart and likeable.
MAN LIFE IS TOO DAMN SHORT TO WASTE IT ON utlimate fukn crap.:good
Its MILLER TIME.:cheers...WELL BEER TIME AT LEAST:drink :beer

[PJD3]

Hell Oscar makes enough money in 1 year to buy the the utilmate fukn crap.:good

[theunderdog]

By the way, I wouldn't have really any idea about UFC... But is Royce Gracey still seen as a God?

I can remember his days... And the days of the first UFC, where there were NO rules, and fighters used to fight out of their specific combat sport (e.g. I remember a martial artist specialist fighting a sumo specicialist in I think the very first UFC, each fighting their own technique. Martial artist knocked him out cold within the first few seconds. Awesome).


where have you been in the last 10 years?

[Fedor Em]

This is boxings best year in at least 5, big fights are being made, and the UFC as competation is pushing boxing to make these fights. I am a very big UFC fan, but there is still nothing better in the world then a back in forth war in boxing.

[MSTR]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”
Pretty sure ESPN isn't a PPV..... Worst thread ever. How about you compare to the De La hoya v Mayweather card and then get back to me!

[MSTR]

where have you been in the last 10 years?
My thoughts exactly.

[KO Boxing]

where have you been in the last 10 years?
Mate, I wouldn't know UFC for nothing. Please, be my guest, and inform me...

[madjabber]

This is boxings best year in at least 5, big fights are being made, and the UFC as competation is pushing boxing to make these fights. I am a very big UFC fan, but there is still nothing better in the world then a back in forth war in boxing.

You are absolutely Right :D

[MSTR]

Mate, I wouldn't know UFC for nothing. Please, be my guest, and inform me...
The UFC has evolved massively. Gracie was an expert in BJJ and nothing else. Todays fighters are well versed in wrestling, BJJ, Maui Thai and Boxing. They have to be complete fighters to have any sort of chance. He fought Matt Hughes, the current welter weight champ (at the time) a couple years back and got thoroughly dominated from start to finish (as brief as it was). Its a totally different game. Because guys learned how to defend the takedown now much better, the stand up is a MUCH more important element.

[fists of fury]

The UFC has evolved massively. Gracie was an expert in BJJ and nothing else. Todays fighters are well versed in wrestling, BJJ, Maui Thai and Boxing. They have to be complete fighters to have any sort of chance. He fought Matt Hughes, the current welter weight champ (at the time) a couple years back and got thoroughly dominated from start to finish (as brief as it was). Its a totally different game. Because guys learned how to defend the takedown now much better, the stand up is a MUCH more important element.

Kind of ironic actually.
As far as I know, the UFC was basically established to showcase the Gracie bjj. Now they've been overtaken at their own game.

[Beebs]

Absolutely no need for this thread, this is the type of stupid shit that leads to hating on MMA.

Both sports are great, how you can't like both if you like one is beyond comprehension.

[T.C.W]

there rom for both, the guys at UFC are going down because the don't pay the fighter enough money

[fists of fury]

Absolutely no need for this thread, this is the type of stupid shit that leads to hating on MMA.

Both sports are great, how you can't like both if you like one is beyond comprehension.

Yeah, I agree. It just promotes antagonism.
Personally, I get into all forms of fighting - Muay Thai, K-1, UFC...hell, even Sumo.
Obviously my fave is boxing, but I can respect the other sports too.

[knockout]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”It got alot of viewer because it was free,if that shit was in ppv it wont make a million.

[diamondDave]

Boxing is in no more competition with UFC than it was with football or basketball...in fact boxing is probably in more competition with basketball, because I think more would-be top American fighters end up playing that sport rather than boxing.

UFC has a niche, good for them! But that has nothing to do with boxing. Boxing always has fans and to be honest it is a more exciting sport. People want to see someone hit in the mouth, not a couple of guys mounting eachother for position. Its not crowd pleasing. Most of the people watching UFC, are watching for the striking in hopes that someone gets knocked out.

BTW, that UFC card from Saturday was some of the most boring action I have seen!

[barneyrub]

Another comparison......boxing forums usually have 80-160 members viewing and posting while the top MMA forum might have 3,000-5,000 postingall teenage fanboys who think they are grown up because they watch ufc instead of wwe anymore lol. Who cares pal.

[barneyrub]

"it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London"

Yeah whatever, but considering the fact that the O2 Arena only opened about 2 months ago, SO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PH|LLA]

put this garbage in the mma forum

[Guru_Too_You]

The UFC has evolved massively. Gracie was an expert in BJJ and nothing else. Todays fighters are well versed in wrestling, BJJ, Maui Thai and Boxing. They have to be complete fighters to have any sort of chance. He fought Matt Hughes, the current welter weight champ (at the time) a couple years back and got thoroughly dominated from start to finish (as brief as it was). Its a totally different game. Because guys learned how to defend the takedown now much better, the stand up is a MUCH more important element.

It didnt help that Gracie was about 50 years old.

[duran83]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”

What a load of bollocks England peaked at 5.6 million viewers lmao, the card was on english ppv im pretty certain 5.6 million people dont even subscribe to the channel Setanta Sports.

Ufc is fucking garbage discussion over.

[duran83]

What a load of bollocks England peaked at 5.6 million viewers lmao, the card was on english ppv im pretty certain 5.6 million people dont even subscribe to the channel Setanta Sports.

Ufc is fucking garbage discussion over.

Also there was less than 17000 at the event Cazlaghe v kessler will be over 50000, oh yes boxing is dieing and ufc id taking over lmfao.

[barneyrub]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”

Audley Harrison vs. Danny Williams got 8 million viewers in the uk which is a massive audience per population of the UK compared to the UFC audience in the massive population of america! And who the hell wanted to see Audley Harrison fight!!!!! But UFC with all its hype gets a whopping 4.7 million whoopee :happy lol

[codeman99998]

I don't know guys, I mean, 5 years ago would anyone have thought it was likely to have a free cable TV UFC show that garnered 4.7 million viewers?

Obviously MMA isn't ecclipsing boxing any time soon, but it certainly is growing and growing fast.

[vonBanditos]

I don't know guys, I mean, 5 years ago would anyone have thought it was likely to have a free cable TV UFC show that garnered 4.7 million viewers?

Obviously MMA isn't ecclipsing boxing any time soon, but it certainly is growing and growing fast.

It's certainly a very healthy business, but consider that it was a title fight on a basic cable channel. Ask yourself what would have happened if Oscar vs Mayweather were shown on regular TV.

UFC is doing very, very well, and it might actually be healthier than boxing, but it's impossible to compare this kind of event to anything that boxing has done because ESPN2 doesn't exactly show marquee fights. They also don't promote them.

[Sheikh]

I know UFC is beating boxing. boxing fans have no awnser but to bitch

[CASH_718]

It was a free fight. Put it on PPV and watch how many people don't buy it.

Oh and the fight made De La Hoya vs Mayweather look like Gatti vs Ward.

[C Money]

Why is it that some diehard boxing fans cry everytime UFC/MMA is mentioned and compared to boxing, yet you dont see UFC/MMA fans crying everytime boxing is mentioned. Its as if some of these diehard boxing fans are somewhat insecure about thier sport.

Boxing fans are TIRED of MMA promoting itself simply by the antagonistic nature of MMA taking over/better than boxing.

Why is it MMA fans continually find there ways to boxing forums to discuss this BULLSHIT?? Let me know when you see my tag in an MMA forum:lol:

I dont hate or object to MMA, I hate and object to the bullshit rationale used in the promotion of such:yep Talk about the merits of the sport!! Why not promote MMA over the fake ass WWE which at least has 'ground game"???

MMA's promoters and powers that be, think its success, but the more they do it?? The greater the backlash that will occur between fans of both sports, WHEN FANS OF BOTH SPORTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY BOTH, if they so choose.

[Blacc Jesus]

out of thousands MMA poster in Shitdog only 4 or 5 have any semblance of intelligence
True story.
TS is a dumbass.

[Blacc Jesus]

I know UFC is beating boxing. boxing fans have no awnser but to bitch
:lol: @ this dumbfuck.

[Blacc Jesus]

Why is it that some diehard boxing fans cry everytime UFC/MMA is mentioned and compared to boxing, yet you dont see UFC/MMA fans crying everytime boxing is mentioned. Its as if some of these diehard boxing fans are somewhat insecure about thier sport.
:lol: I take it you've never been to Sherdog before.

[PolishPummler]

I fell asleep with my TV tuned into Spike TV.

I can vouch for 1 person out of those 4.6mill that wasnt really watching...ME

[gallagher430]

there rom for both, the guys at UFC are going down because the don't pay the fighter enough money

This is the only thing that pisses me off about mma. The fights make so much money and the fighters basically get the scraps of it. I think the title fights might generate like $200k at the most for the winning fighter. There's going to be a strike before long by all the fighters. Bet on it!

[thewoo]

Only thing that came to my mind reading this was "god damn dana white is going to be rolling in it"

[Ramshall1]

those of you touting boxings good upcoming fights need to thank MMA for it. . . its the competition they bring that is pushing boxing to be more competative.

[Pimp C]

NASCAR and WWF pull good numbers as well..so what does that tell you?

[Chiko_Tech]

UFC bored me to death i tried viewing this champion vs champion show and i felt at sleeep and when i woke up i quickly change the channel and had a lot of fun then watching sponge bob.

[codeman99998]

those of you touting boxings good upcoming fights need to thank MMA for it. . . its the competition they bring that is pushing boxing to be more competative.

That is very true.

A healthy MMA helps boxing. Competition is always good, it forces both sports to try their best to be as entertaining as possible.

[charlievint]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV
The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8, making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched MMA event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS. “We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”

LOL!! This doens't mean boxing is so far behind fool! How many people do you think would have watch DLH vs FLOYD if it were free on cable TV numb nuts?

Shit...2.2 Million people shelled out $55 for that boxing event!! This was free and had about 50% viewers...thats' not a lot considering it was FREE! Get a grip homie.

[charlievint]

Another comparison......boxing forums usually have 80-160 members viewing and posting while the top MMA forum might have 3,000-5,000 posting

78.5% of statistics are made up :roll:

[achillesthegreat]

You are comparing ESPN fights to probably the most significant MMA fight in history?

[charlievint]

You are comparing ESPN fights to probably the most significant MMA fight in history?

NOT PROBABLY....WAS the most signigicant fight!

[Chief_Second]

ufc isn't the same catagory as boxing - it's more like entertainment e.g. wrestling and dancing competitions.

ufc is novalty....typical fight, a couple of badly aimed playground punches then grab the crap out of eachother and try to break arms and strangle the other guy.

boxing is dignified.

[MrSmall]

My PENIS is BIG and MEATY.

[charlievint]

ufc isn't the same catagory as boxing - it's more like entertainment e.g. wrestling and dancing competitions.

ufc is novalty....typical fight, a couple of badly aimed playground punches then grab the crap out of eachother and try to break arms and strangle the other guy.

boxing is dignified.

Damn...it's not that bad (UFC/MMA)....there are some very poorly put together events in MMA just like in Boxing. THere are things like "Tough man Comp" that is crap. But you need skill in boxing and in MMA to be successful at the highest level.

There is a little more depth than badly aimed playground punces and trying to pull each other to the ground. You gotta know that, unless you are just completely against MMA to which I say your Point of view is biased and not worth debating.

If you don't have anything against MMA then you just don't know what MMA is or what it takes to compete. I say the same to MMA fans who say you only need to know a few things to be good at Boxing.

Both MMA and Boxing offer great things to its fans. We see great talented and skilled fighters who dedicate their lives to a very brutal sport for our entertainment. What they do in a ring, Cage or Octagon is pretty amazing if you take the time to appreciated what they do.

[box03]

UFC doesnt even compare to the great sport of boxing, they say how ufcs killing boxing but just this year Mayweather/Delahoya fight broke the record for ppv sales. Like somene said in a previous post ufc is comparable to wrestling, the only difference is the wwe is more fun to watch.

[The Whaler]

ESPN2 boxing viewers are usually just a couple of hundred thousand

UFC 75 makes history!
4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV


ESPN2 usually doesn't show title fights between popular champions. UFC 75 on the other hand was basically a PPV shown on free TV. Of course it's going to draw in huge ratings! If Mayweather-De La Hoya was shown on Spike instead of PPV it would draw just as good ratings. Probably better.

[Amsterdam]

It's not killing anything. Two different sports.

[charlievint]

ESPN2 usually doesn't show title fights between popular champions. UFC 75 on the other hand was basically a PPV shown on free TV. Of course it's going to draw in huge ratings! If Mayweather-De La Hoya was shown on Spike instead of PPV it would draw just as good ratings. Probably better.

Dude! If the Floyd vs DLH fight was shown on ESPN or anther cable network it would have been fucking bananas! 4.7 Mill would have been nothing! Believe me! They did over 2 Mill PPV buys at $55 fucking blickies......That means WAAAAAAAAY more than half didn't buy it but REALLY wanted to see it.

[AJAX]

Dude! If the Floyd vs DLH fight was shown on ESPN or anther cable network it would have been fucking bananas! 4.7 Mill would have been nothing! Believe me! They did over 2 Mill PPV buys at $55 fucking blickies......That means WAAAAAAAAY more than half didn't buy it but REALLY wanted to see it.

and most people were dissapointed with the overhyped fight.

[IntentionalButt]

and most people were dissapointed with the overhyped fight.

Every time I see your username I miss my cat.

[AJAX]

Every time I see your username I miss my cat.

ahhhh.... my sincerest condolenses:oops:

[IntentionalButt]

ahhhh.... my sincerest condolenses:oops:

Oh it's cool man, she's alive and well at home. I'm just clingy and work long hours . :lol:

[Zakman]

After the UFC fad is over, boxing will still be around. You can only dress up that boring rolling around on the ground shit for so long before people get BORED.

UFC will never match the glory, history and accomplishments of the Sweet Science. FUCK UFC!!

[cross_trainer]

After the UFC fad is over, boxing will still be around. You can only dress up that boring rolling around on the ground shit for so long before people get BORED.

UFC will never match the glory, history and accomplishments of the Sweet Science. FUCK UFC!!
The UFC, as a "mixed" martial art, has a much longer history than boxing. In fact, it INCLUDES boxing. An MMA guy can name predecessors as diverse as Dempsey (boxing), Gotch (wrestling), Kimura (judo), Wallace (American karate), Helio (BJJ), and DOZENS of others. He can also read all of their manuals AND USE EVERYTHING IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE MANUALS AGAINST HIS OPPONENTS. Now that's a history! :lol:

If you want to get really specific, you could nail down the first relatively modern, Western MMA gym as Barton-Wright's...which puts MMA on the map just twenty years after boxing's first Queensberry champion.

[box03]

After the UFC fad is over, boxing will still be around. You can only dress up that boring rolling around on the ground shit for so long before people get BORED.

UFC will never match the glory, history and accomplishments of the Sweet Science. FUCK UFC!! Well said, Most of the fighters I seen on ufc couldnt punch there way out of a paper bag.

[charlievint]

and most people were dissapointed with the overhyped fight.

Very true...and most were also dissapointed with the Fight with Rampage and Henderson...Most of the people who viewed both the fight cards were NOT hardcore boxing or MMA fans...they were casual fans and don't really appreciate the little things these guys do in the ring or Cage that are not KO's or TKO's.

I like both sports and have trained in both. I appreciate the not so noticable skills that they display that casual fans won't notice. But I wasn't dissapointed by either fight card...IMO they both were great. Maybe they didn't live up to all the hype but it was good for both sports respectively.

[brooklyn1550]

Why cant people just appreciate both sports and respect each sport's respective participants?

[charlievint]

After the UFC fad is over, boxing will still be around. You can only dress up that boring rolling around on the ground shit for so long before people get BORED.

UFC will never match the glory, history and accomplishments of the Sweet Science. FUCK UFC!!

I don't agree...maybe the UFC will be gone but MMA will be around, just like any form of martial arts! They've been around forever and both sports will continue to stick around. I do feel boxing will always be the premier one on one combat sport though or at least for a VERY long time.

[charlievint]

Why cant people just appreciate both sports and respect each sport's respective participants?

Well said...nothing wrong with having a preference or likeing one more than the other....but both sports should be respected. They bring different attributes to the fans that everyone should apprecaite.

[Chief_Second]

Well said, Most of the fighters I seen on ufc couldnt punch there way out of a paper bag.

a wet paper bag with scissors in their hands at that.

there are more failures in competing boxers than ufc and therefore boxing is the tougher sport

[Zakman]

Well said, Most of the fighters I seen on ufc couldnt punch there way out of a paper bag.

I hear they have glass jaws, too!:lol:

[cross_trainer]

I hear they have glass jaws, too!:lol:

Earliest boxing manual: 18th century English

Earliest wrestling manual: Ancient Egyptian




History? Pah! You guys are newbies compared to martial arts. :D

[IntentionalButt]

Earliest boxing manual: 18th century English

Earliest wrestling manual: Ancient Egyptian




History? Pah! You guys are newbies compared to martial arts. :D

Did you quote the wrong post, ct? I'm not discrediting your argument, but it doesn't seem to correlate to glass jaws? :huh

[box03]

I hear they have glass jaws, too!:lol: Its funny Lindel was considered one of the best in ufc and yet couldnt see a loaded up punch from Rampage coming, a 16 yearold with less than a year of training at a local boxing gym could of countered that. I dont hate ufc I just wish they would stop claiming that there well trained at every sport, I only know boxing so I could only comment on there lack of skills in that field. But I am glad to see Rampage is at least trying to improve his boxing skills working with Shane Mosley, I hope its a new trend in the ufc.