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stiflers mum
08-20-2009, 01:33 AM
Green looks indoors for Roy Jones

Potential weather worries are likely to result in an indoor arena for the blockbuster bout between Australia's Danny Green and American superstar Roy Jones Jnr in Sydney in November.
Green returned to Sydney on Wednesday, carrying with him the IBO cruiserweight title belt he won against Mexican Julio Cesar Dominguez in Mississippi last weekend.
He's scheduled to make his first defence against the legendary 40-year-old Jones, who scored an equally impressive tenth round stoppage of former super middleweight world champion Jeff Lacy in the light heavyweight bout on the same card in Biloxi.
Green touched down just a few hours after it was announced his 2000 Olympic teammate Michael Katsidis will fight American Vicente Escobedo on the undercard of the big Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez clash in Las Vegas on September 19.
Katsidis will have the chance to regain the WBO interim lightweight title he lost last year.
The promotion at the MGM Grand is arguably the biggest in the world this year, while the Green-Jones promotion looms as the highlight of the Australian boxing calendar.
Green and his management confirmed the bout was heading to Sydney.
An avid Parramatta Eels rugby league supporter, Green suggested his clash with Jones might take place at Parramatta Stadium, which hosted one of Kostya Tszyu's world title fights.
Green fought outdoors against Anthony Mundine at the Sydney Football Stadium in 2006, which attracted around 30,000 spectators, but Green Machine Boxing (GMB) director ****** Manolikos suggested the Jones bout would go ahead indoors.
``Boxing is not a thing you can have the next day, so I would just rather take that risk out and know that it's indoors and maybe have a slightly smaller crowd than what we could've got (outdoors),'' Manolikos told AAP on Wednesday.
``It's just peace of mind for everyone, not only me as promoter, but also the fighters.''
The date for the promotion will depend on television requirements and venue availability .
Manolikos said GMB were looking at Sydney's two biggest indoor venues, the 11,500 seat Sydney Entertainment Centre and 21,000 seat ACER Arena.
Green admitted to being mesmerised while watching Jones outclass Lacy.
``He was talking to me during the fight and he was looking at me and he asked me at one stage `Did you like that, did you like that?''' Green said.
``But he hasn't been hit by me yet and I am definitely not overawed.''
Impressive in his second fight after coming out of retirement, 36-year-old Green attributed his success to a quartet of R's - relaxation, recovery, recuperation and remedies.
Manolikos said a number of American fighters on the Biloxi undercard, including lightweight Jason Litzau and cruiserweight BJ Flores, had already expressed an interest in appearing on the Green-Jones undercard.
``What I was just thinking is do we try and make it an Australia versus America thing,'' Manolikos said.
He was adamant Green's bout with Jones would easily attract greater worldwide interest than his much-hyped bout with Mundine.
``Green-Mundine was massive on an Australian stage, but on a world stage - with respect to the boys - it went a little bit unnoticed, no one really cared,'' Manolikos said.
``This is easily going to surpass that.''

Manolikos said the only potential obstacle to a Green-Jones bout might come if the American superstar was offered a fight against one of the two Klitschko brothers, Wladimir or Vitali, who hold three of the heavyweight world titles between them.

The last paragraph where ****** mentions the Klitschkos has got me worried that Green v RJJ might not come off and left jab Dannys streak of prematurely announcing things only for them to not happen continues.

WhataRock
08-20-2009, 01:46 AM
:lol:

RJJ fight the Klits??

stiflers mum
08-20-2009, 01:59 AM
:lol:

RJJ fight the Klits??
I know, I know but it sounds like to me that nothing has been signed in regards to Green / RJJ and Roy might take another fight instead of coming here to fight Green.It sounds like its only a verbal agreement between Roy and Danny and it maybe not happening like the tarver fight.

Phil Austin
08-20-2009, 02:06 AM
It is only a verbal agreement at the moment, but RJJ is very keen apparently to head down here for the fight. I'd be very suprised if it didn't happen

WhataRock
08-20-2009, 02:25 AM
I have no expectations when it comes to boxing anymore...It may or may not happen. Roy also talked of fighting Woods again and if he were to beat Cloud for the IBF 175 strap, there is a chance of him taking that path.

But Roy fight the Klits..good lord thats 24 carat comedy.

MiracleMan
08-20-2009, 02:28 AM
Wlads fighting Chambers and Vitali is fighting Arreola so no. The fights on.

roscoe
08-20-2009, 02:31 AM
I'd say Roy will ome to Oz & fight Green, defeat him & win the IBO cruiser title. On paper he's then won titles at Middle, S/Middle, L/Heavy, Heavy & then Cruiser. Both Klit bros will knock Roy into tomorrow, it makes no sense.

left jab danny
08-20-2009, 02:56 AM
stiffler you are fucking insane:hi:
RJJ has already verbally agreed to the fight so what the fuck has it got to do with me if the fight doesn't go ahead:patsch
You make out as if i;m the only person who claims this fight is going ahead.
I said a couple of months ago this fight was a big possibility of happening before there was any press about it.
Now that it looks like happening your saying it could still fall threw....well no shit sherlock exactly what control do i have over that you stupid cunt!
So i guess if RJJ gets hit by a car tommorrow and can't fight Danny then that means i must be full of shit about the fight ever going ahead lol...get the fuck outta here.
Oh lets not forget the Tarver fight that i was full of shit too.
How dare i claim Danny was going to fight Tarver i mean it was only scheduled in boxrec and then there was Danny announcing the fight at half time of a west coast eagles game and then there's main event who filmed and aired there ads for the Green v Tarver fight:deal
You obviously know fuck all about the game cause if you did you'd know there is a 1000 reasons a fight can fall through after it has been agreed apon.

Gee the thought of Danny fighting one of the greatest boxers of all time must really piss you off:yep
It's great to see Danny stick it up fags like yourself...don't worry i hear choc will be fighting at a RSL near you soon.

baha74
08-20-2009, 03:47 AM
In the interview/main page with BJ Flores he talks about his next fight being scheduled on the Green RJJ undercard here in NOV...

MiracleMan
08-20-2009, 03:57 AM
In the interview/main page with BJ Flores he talks about his next fight being scheduled on the Green RJJ undercard here in NOV...
Awesome hope he brings another top 10 Cruiser with him. The guy speaks well aswell.

AustraHungarian
08-20-2009, 04:06 AM
[quote=left jab danny;4753525]stiffler you are fucking insane:hi:
RJJ has already verbally agreed to the fight so what the fuck has it got to do with me if the fight doesn't go ahead:patsch
You make out as if i;m the only person who claims this fight is going ahead.
I said a couple of months ago this fight was a big possibility of happening before there was any press about it.
Now that it looks like happening your saying it could still fall threw....well no shit sherlock exactly what control do i have over that you stupid cunt!
So i guess if RJJ gets hit by a car tommorrow and can't fight Danny then that means i must be full of shit about the fight ever going ahead lol...get the fuck outta here.
Oh lets not forget the Tarver fight that i was full of shit too.
How dare i claim Danny was going to fight Tarver i mean it was only scheduled in boxrec and then there was Danny announcing the fight at half time of a west coast eagles game and then there's main event who filmed and aired there ads for the Green v Tarver fight:deal
You obviously know fuck all about the game cause if you did you'd know there is a 1000 reasons a fight can fall through after it has been agreed apon.

Gee the thought of Danny fighting one of the greatest boxers of all time must really piss you off:yep
It's great to see Danny stick it up fags like yourself...don't worry i hear choc will be fighting at a RSL near you soon.[/quote


I take it you and Stiffler have some issues to sort out!

stiflers mum
08-20-2009, 04:11 AM
stiffler you are fucking insane:hi:
RJJ has already verbally agreed to the fight so what the fuck has it got to do with me if the fight doesn't go ahead:patsch
You make out as if i;m the only person who claims this fight is going ahead.
I said a couple of months ago this fight was a big possibility of happening before there was any press about it.
Now that it looks like happening your saying it could still fall threw....well no shit sherlock exactly what control do i have over that you stupid cunt!
So i guess if RJJ gets hit by a car tommorrow and can't fight Danny then that means i must be full of shit about the fight ever going ahead lol...get the fuck outta here.
Oh lets not forget the Tarver fight that i was full of shit too.
How dare i claim Danny was going to fight Tarver i mean it was only scheduled in boxrec and then there was Danny announcing the fight at half time of a west coast eagles game and then there's main event who filmed and aired there ads for the Green v Tarver fight:deal
You obviously know fuck all about the game cause if you did you'd know there is a 1000 reasons a fight can fall through after it has been agreed apon.

Gee the thought of Danny fighting one of the greatest boxers of all time must really piss you off:yep
It's great to see Danny stick it up fags like yourself...don't worry i hear choc will be fighting at a RSL near you soon.
now now now dont get all pissy sweetheart.just posting the article is all i did.and no if danny does get an ATG like rjj over here it will be good for aussie boxing but for whatever reason whenever you post about dannys future plans it always seems to fall through.:deal:thumbsup

luds
08-20-2009, 05:44 AM
look im really dissapointed in all this.
With danny fighting indoors theres always the chance of dehydration again.
And really if you take all the hype out,all the lovers balls shit that greens supporters have for him,and all the media beat up,i cant really see a big enough reason for rjj to fly however many hours all the way here,adjust and train to our time difference and climate to fight danny green.
i mean greens new belt doesnt hold any real pulling power and jones can clean up in many more ways in the usa than coming all this way to fight a carpenter from perth who got slapped silly by mundine,lost to beyer twice and hit the deck when gonzales cracked him with a shithouse right hand.
And beating that van de kirk guy was no better than mundine vs one of his cab drivers.
Its all hype and we are being sucked in to the green media circus.
If i was rjj id tell danny,when you beat mundine or at least win a few rounds against a guy of his calibre ,come and see me and then we will talk.

bushboy
08-20-2009, 05:57 AM
With Danny having an exciting win on a Roy Jones card in front of american audiences (even if not against the most stellar oppostion) it hypes up a fight that american fight fans will love. This will be hyped to the max , sell massive PPV's in Aus and US.
The reason Roy and Green want this fight to happen is simple $$

Roy doesn't give a shit about his legacy compared to cash and neither does Green, and who can blame them? Plenty of fighter's have left great legacys and due to a lack of financial savvy (which both of these guys have bucketloads of) have been used,abused and left destitute.

Take this fight for what it is Luds, and that is an exciting scrap between two blokes who know how to turn it on.

fast hands
08-20-2009, 09:00 AM
Anyone { Manolikos ? ] who seriously suggests Jones would fight either of the Klitschko's
is stark staring mad.
Julio Cesar Dominguez is a Argentinian cruiserweight [ world ranking 85 ] not a Mexican.

pecks
08-20-2009, 10:16 AM
With Danny having an exciting win on a Roy Jones card in front of american audiences (even if not against the most stellar oppostion) it hypes up a fight that american fight fans will love. This will be hyped to the max , sell massive PPV's in Aus and US.
The reason Roy and Green want this fight to happen is simple $$


I dont think Green being on the undercard did anything to boost the hype for a RJJ/Green fight.

Sure there will be American interest, but it will be the same as the Lacy fight, etc. It wouldn't be a case of...'Oh, look at this Green guy on the undercard. This will be a great match up'. It will be more of people just wanting to see Roy, and hoping he can turn back the clock.

It'll be different to the Australian public though.

luds
08-20-2009, 07:03 PM
In all honesty the thing i dont understand is all true boxing fans know that green hasnt improved really much in the last 5 years.
I know he has always had a good right hand but technically he is pretty average.
So after loosing nearly all 12 rounds to mundine,how could green really think he could beat rjj,other than buy a lucky k.o.
I dont believe mundine is any better or worse a fighter than rjj so i cant see green really getting a different result here and i know green thinks his power will win him the fight,but really power is worthless if you cant actually hit the guy properly and rjj is hard to hit.
I think the dollars signs might be clouding greens judement on this one.

Hmmm
08-20-2009, 07:45 PM
luds, to be honest I think deep inside Green knows he cant beat RJJ, he just needs to pretend to be confident publicly - thats his job.

But Green saying he was mesmerised by Jones' performance was kinda a dead givaway...

cedrichw
08-20-2009, 09:09 PM
I would think that 99% of all boxers have the mentality that they can beat there opponent. would be very surprised if a fighter got in the ring and thought no way am I winning this fight they would all think at least they would have a lucky punch chance at the least. Green will be telling himself he had weight issues the death of his niece and other problems ( being in hoispital with unknown ilness) bad back from sparring OS when he got beat by mundine and that at Cruiser fully fit with no distractions he will win. whats right and wrong is up for debate however surly he would be thinking this before the fight

stiflers mum
08-20-2009, 09:56 PM
It is only a verbal agreement at the moment, but RJJ is very keen apparently to head down here for the fight. I'd be very suprised if it didn't happen
thats sweet mate and for some reason dannys managers first name is blocked out here so we will call him JM makes it sound like the undercard will be a corker too. i just posted this article i read on sports nut to discuss and to provoke a reaction from leftjab danny which i got :yep.move on people nothong more to see here.

bushboy
08-20-2009, 11:19 PM
I dont think Green being on the undercard did anything to boost the hype for a RJJ/Green fight.

Sure there will be American interest, but it will be the same as the Lacy fight, etc. It wouldn't be a case of...'Oh, look at this Green guy on the undercard. This will be a great match up'. It will be more of people just wanting to see Roy, and hoping he can turn back the clock.

It'll be different to the Australian public though.

Oh yeah I'm not saying its going to set any world records pecks, but having green as a semi main event to set up the match would do a lot more for the public profile of the fight then if the two just decided to set up a bout straight off the bat

COULDHAVEBEEN
08-21-2009, 12:02 AM
...I think the dollars signs might be clouding greens judement on this one.

Though I'm not suggesting Danny's comeback was only for the money, it would have been a very big factor. He'll be 37 in 6 months so the money 'clouding his judgement' might be more a case of 'increasing his focus'.

Logically, Danny will only have another 4 more fights maximum IMO, and I'd be surprised if Mundine II isn't his last harrah, win or lose.

MiracleMan
08-21-2009, 12:17 AM
In all honesty the thing i dont understand is all true boxing fans know that green hasnt improved really much in the last 5 years.
I know he has always had a good right hand but technically he is pretty average.
So after loosing nearly all 12 rounds to mundine,how could green really think he could beat rjj,other than buy a lucky k.o.
I dont believe mundine is any better or worse a fighter than rjj so i cant see green really getting a different result here and i know green thinks his power will win him the fight,but really power is worthless if you cant actually hit the guy properly and rjj is hard to hit.
I think the dollars signs might be clouding greens judement on this one.

Green has just as much one punch power as Johnson and Tarver. And we know what they did to Roy. Lacy didn't have a jab. Danny does. Danny will take a beating early but he should come home stronger.

Hes in with a real chance here. He gets stronger above SMW.

slip&counter
08-21-2009, 01:16 AM
greetings from good old engerland :hi:

don't worry my aussie friends i'm sure this will end up down under

bit of compensation for getting tonked in the cricket :yep

COULDHAVEBEEN
08-21-2009, 02:03 AM
greetings from good old engerland :hi:

don't worry my aussie friends i'm sure this will end up down under

bit of compensation for getting tonked in the cricket :yep

Let's see who's still smiling in 5 days time our cricket loving friend!

Phil Austin
08-21-2009, 03:56 AM
Slipper me old mucker - good to see you back here. Hopefully you won't be dissolving into tears in 3 days time when you've lost by an innings again 2 tests in a row

boxerbabe
08-21-2009, 07:51 AM
suuuuuuuuuuuuuup peps xxxxxxxx

Phil Austin
08-21-2009, 08:23 AM
Hey Boxerbabe - hope all is well and you are enjoying your daughter

boxerbabe
08-21-2009, 12:10 PM
hahah yeah she tastes great :D:lol: cheers mate :good

the beaver
08-21-2009, 12:20 PM
Aussies in big trouble in cricket.

pecks
08-21-2009, 08:55 PM
Hopefully you won't be dissolving into tears in 3 days time when you've lost by an innings again 2 tests in a rowThe Phil jinx strikes again. :-(

pecks
08-22-2009, 12:55 AM
hahah yeah she tastes great :D
:admin

Phil Austin
08-22-2009, 01:45 AM
The Phil jinx strikes again. :-(


When the fuck am I going to learn????!!! :patsch

Phil Austin
08-22-2009, 01:46 AM
:admin

Thank God I wasn't the only one Pecks! :?

stiflers mum
08-22-2009, 10:12 PM
Oh yeah I'm not saying its going to set any world records pecks, but having green as a semi main event to set up the match would do a lot more for the public profile of the fight then if the two just decided to set up a bout straight off the bat
you maybe right but i dont think Greens farcical world title fight :rofl against domingeus or whatever his name was will generate any extra interest in the fight if it happens.credit to him for getting into the ring and having a go but i think everyone knew from his ring entrance to a world title fight :rofl where he had no music, no flag, no entourage holding up his argentinian taxi drivers belt just 2 guys who were his trainer and cut man i assume that this fight was a joke.

perfect jet
08-22-2009, 10:16 PM
you maybe right but i dont think Greens farcical world title fight :rofl against domingeus or whatever his name was will generate any extra interest in the fight if it happens.credit to him for getting into the ring and having a go but i think everyone knew from his ring entrance to a world title fight :rofl where he had no music, no flag, no entourage holding up his argentinian taxi drivers belt just 2 guys who were his trainer and cut man i assume that this fight was a joke.

Umm...it was for a vacant title. :patsch

stiflers mum
08-23-2009, 10:10 PM
Umm...it was for a vacant title. :patschwhats your point?

COULDHAVEBEEN
08-24-2009, 12:10 AM
you maybe right but i dont think Greens farcical world title fight :rofl against domingeus or whatever his name was will generate any extra interest in the fight if it happens.credit to him for getting into the ring and having a go but i think everyone knew from his ring entrance to a world title fight :rofl where he had no music, no flag, no entourage holding up his argentinian taxi drivers belt just 2 guys who were his trainer and cut man i assume that this fight was a joke.

RJJ wouldn't have entertained coming out here unless Green had the new title as a carrot. Even if the vacant title bout was totally contrived it still helped us land RJJ in Oz.