Which heavyweight do you think has the more power

[Chris Warren]

with one punch? I mean the can turn a fight around with one punch. They dont have to be able to win that fight just change the fight with one punch.

Foreman of course would be my top person

[McGrain]

The best example of a one punch turnaround in a fight is Marciano's one-punch stoppage of Walcott, who was ahead on the cards at the time of the stoppage.

Isn't it?

[SuzieQ49]

George Foreman was not a one punch knockout artist in his prime. He never scored a 1 punch knockout for the 10 count over a top rated fighter in the 70s.



The answer to this thread is either Mike Tyson, Rocky Marciano, or Joe Louis. All of these men scored devastating 1 punch knockouts over top rated men on film during there prime years. I would like to say Liston, but I cannot think of a fight on film where he scored a devastating one punch knockout over a top rated man(westphal is not applicable here though that was magnificent).

[teeto]

It's probably someone like Louis, if we're talking great fighters. When he landed clean a lot of the time the man went immediately unconscious, then fell.

[PetethePrince]

George Foreman was not a one punch knockout artist in his prime. He never scored a 1 punch knockout for the 10 count over a top rated fighter in the 70s.



The answer to this thread is either Mike Tyson, Rocky Marciano, or Joe Louis. All of these men scored devastating 1 punch knockouts over top rated men on film during there prime years.

Don't get caught up on 1 punch KO's. The thread is about the ability to change a fight with just 1 punch. Foreman did this constantly throughout his career.

[TheGreatA]

Joe Louis

Not the most powerful but the ability to change a fight with one punch was definitely there.

[Chris Warren]

Who did Rocky Marciano knockout with one punch who was in their prime SusieQ? You mean the 40 year old Jersey Joe Walcott

And Pete you are right and didnt say one punch knock out power i said the ablity to change a fight with one punch

[McGrain]

Walcott looked great against Marciano. Excellent.

[SuzieQ49]

Who did Rocky Marciano knockout with one punch who was in their prime SusieQ?


Rex Layne? 23 years old rated # 4 in the world and sported a respectable 34-1 (25) record. Layne entered the fight a 9 to 5 favorite.

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Hope that answers it for you!

[mcvey]

with one punch? I mean the can turn a fight around with one punch. They dont have to be able to win that fight just change the fight with one punch.

Foreman of course would be my top person

Black or White? :lol:

[Chris Warren]

Rex Layne wasnt a world class hall of fame fighter so knocking him out proves nothing and SusieQ i said heavyweight not cruiserweight. So no Rocky Marciano's, Jack Dempsey, or any other 180 pound fighters. I mean 200 plus pound heavyweights.

And Mcvey I mean Latino and Hispanic heavyweights. If you dont like what i post then why respond

[ChrisPontius]

The answer to this thread is either Mike Tyson, Rocky Marciano, or Joe Louis. All of these men scored devastating 1 punch knockouts over top rated men on film during there prime years. I would like to say Liston, but I cannot think of a fight on film where he scored a devastating one punch knockout over a top rated man(westphal is not applicable here though that was magnificent).

Who did Louis knock out with a single punch? I'm not saying he didn't, but i can't think of any, off the top of my head. Of course, no heavyweight threw his punches as much in combinations as Joe did, so that makes it kind of hard to score a one punch KO.

[Chris Warren]

Chris it is almost impossible to knockout a world class fighter with one punch but i said who could turn the fight around with one punch not who could knock out a fighter with one punch.

[McGrain]

Who did Louis knock out with a single punch? I'm not saying he didn't, but i can't think of any, off the top of my head. Of course, no heavyweight threw his punches as much in combinations as Joe did, so that makes it kind of hard to score a one punch KO.


Maan was basically dead after that uppercut. Can't blame Joe for hitting him more afterwards!

[SuzieQ49]

Who did Louis knock out with a single punch? I'm not saying he didn't, but i can't think of any, off the top of my head

James J Braddock World Heavyweight champion who had never been down for the 10 count. one right hand knocked him out cold

Paolino Uzcuden- Extremley durable contender flattened with one right hand

Lee Ramage- Top 10 Contender, one left hook left him crippled out cold

Johnny Pacheck- Out cold one right hand

Charlie Retlaff- Big powerful top 10 contender

Lee Savold- Durable top contender, flattened with one left hook


Also even though it was not a knockout 233lb Tony Galento was lifted in the air with one left hook. sending him on the canvas for the first time in his career.

[SuzieQ49]

I mean 200 plus pound heavyweights.

Ok, then Joe Louis and Mike Tyson

[Chris Warren]

Mike Tyson and Joe Louis could turn the fight around again 200 plus pound world class fighters? I think not

[TheGreatA]

Who did Louis knock out with a single punch? I'm not saying he didn't, but i can't think of any, off the top of my head. Of course, no heavyweight threw his punches as much in combinations as Joe did, so that makes it kind of hard to score a one punch KO.

He changed the course of the Walcott II, Conn, Pastor II, Mauriello, Braddock fights with single punches in my opinion.

Walcott said he didn't know where he was after the first right hand counter by Louis and the follow-up combination was "after the fact".

Conn was countered by a right hand and became a punching bag after that.

Pastor was rallying in the late rounds, until Louis unleashed a right hand bomb having figured out Pastor's tricky movement. Pastor didn't get up.

Mauriello hurt Louis early but failed to follow-up as Louis recovered and put him down with a left hook.

Braddock hung in tough, until a right hand put him to sleep.

You could also make the case that Schmeling was finished after the right hand that buckled him, and the beating that followed was just Louis pounding on a defenseless opponent.

Of course this thread was not about KO'ing with one punch but changing a fight with one punch. A case can certainly be made for Louis.

[SuzieQ49]

Also I would like to make a shoutout to Sonny Liston, who was getting pummeled early on by Cleveland Williams until Listons toughness and punching power turned the fight around. Also Liston turned the fights around against 6'5 205lb Mike Dejohn and 6'3 211lb Nino Valdez with a rib breaking shot to the body.

[mcvey]

Rex Layne wasnt a world class hall of fame fighter so knocking him out proves nothing and SusieQ i said heavyweight not cruiserweight. So no Rocky Marciano's, Jack Dempsey, or any other 180 pound fighters. I mean 200 plus pound heavyweights.

And Mcvey I mean Latino and Hispanic heavyweights. If you dont like what i post then why respond

Latino or Hispanic ? Well that narrows it down considerably.
Why respond? I thought you had forgotten to add that bit.

[SuzieQ49]

Mike Tyson and Joe Louis could turn the fight around again 200 plus pound world class fighters? I think not

Come again? Are you living in dream world? No one was better at it than Louis and Tyson. Certainly not foreman, who was incapable of turning around the Young and Ali fights.

[McGrain]

Also I would like to make a shoutout to Sonny Liston, who was getting pummeled early on by Cleveland Williams until Listons toughness and punching power turned the fight around.

Liston also showed good tactical adjustments in those fights.

He said of the first one, "I knew after that fight that I didn't have a weak point on my body. Because that guy hit me everywhere, up and down".

His offense got him out of trouble basically, yeah.

[McGrain]

Mike Tyson and Joe Louis could turn the fight around again 200 plus pound world class fighters? I think not

Come again? Are you living in dream world? No one was better at it than Louis and Tyson. Certainly not foreman, who was incapable of turning around the Young and Ali fights.

:lol:

This might be worth sitting up for.

[SuzieQ49]

Dejohn and Valdez were both giving Liston a bit of trouble early, but in both fights a Left hook to the body stopped both fighters dead in there tracks and neither were the same the rest of the fight. Liston actually stopped valdez with a shot to the body.

[Chris Warren]

SuzieQ and Tyson couldnt turn it around against Buster Douglas or James Tillis. Joe Louis couldnt do it in the first fight with Max Schmelling so what is your point SusieQ? Foreman cant have a off night? Are you insane? Joe Louis fought 3rd tier hacks which is why they called his opponents bum of the month

[TheGreatA]

To be fair to Foreman, he did show the ability to change a fight with one punch against Young (the 7th round) but he was not able to follow up and finish his opponent off unlike other fighters that have been mentioned (Louis, Tyson).

[Chris Warren]

Its funny when you see people critize Foreman for struggling with some opponents but praise other fighters for doing the same thing. Louis couldnt knock out Ezzard Charles a light heavyweight. Tyson couldnt knock out Tony Tucker but does it mean he cant punch? Nobody knocks out everybody, nobody has 100 percent knockouts. Foreman apparently did something right since he had a higher ko percentage than Louis or Tyson.

Foreman made Holyfield fear his power, Tyson on the other hand got knocked out by him

[SuzieQ49]

When Liston danced across the ring to shake hands with the vanquished Mike, DeJohn refused to shake and angrily accused Sonny of uppercutting him when down on one knee the second time. Their handlers separated them." -United Press International


"Yes, I uppercutted him, but I didn't know he had a knee on the floor. I'm sorry about it but he's so tall I didn't realize he had a knee down." -Sonny Liston


:lol::lol: Sonny was a hoot!

[McGrain]

:lol::lol: Sonny was a hoot!


Verbally, he was very literate. I love his patter.

[SuzieQ49]

Joe Louis fought 3rd tier hacks which is why they called his opponents bum of the month

Actually you are wrong. That was not the reason they called it "Bum of the month". In fact most of the men who were on the tour were highly qualified Ring Magazine top 10 contenders....Certainly not the cannon fodder George Foreman feasted on early in his career. I don't think there has ever been a olympic champion who was protected through his first 35 pro fights as much as foreman....Talk about being overprotected. In 1972 Foreman fought 5 fights...3 of the mens records were 4-20, 1-14, and 4-16! LMAO. The only Ring Magazine top 10 contender he faced in his first 35 fights was the aging Chuvalo. The only other decent fighter he fought was the aging Gregorio Peralta who was an ex lightheavyweight who gave foreman 10 difficult rounds. Louis on the otherhand in his first 3 years as pro took on 4 ormer champions and 7 Ring Magazine contenders.

[Chris Warren]

SusieQ Rocky Marciano fought Bill Hardeman record 1-4, Gilbert Cardone 0-1, Gilley Ferron 1-4, Jimmy Walls 9-15, Harold Mitchell 3-13 so you can take your LoLs else where. I guess its ok for Marciano to fight bums right?

Joe Louis fought Willie Davies 0-6, Art Sykes 4-5, Biff Bennet 6-10 and numerous other smaller fighters with subpar records of smaller guys with built up records

[Tin_Ribs]

Toonder and lightning?

[GPater11093]

those white heavyweights are always huge hitters

[Tin_Ribs]

those white heavyweights are always huge hitters

Aryan supremacy mein friend. Biological fact :nut

[ironchamp]

Tyson: Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Frans Botha, Carl Williams, Buster Douglas (you said power to change the fight, well that right uppercut was a temporary momentum changer)

[kmcc505]

Joe Louis was the hardest, crispest puncher ever IMO. Of couse, I've never been hit by him...

[red cobra]

Rocky Marciano, based solely on his one punch ko of Jersey Joe Walcott, who DID look great in this fight (agreed McGrain).

[JohnThomas1]

Shavers is the man, it's just that his skill and stamina level were most ordinary.

[Seamus]

Foreman apparently did something right since he had a higher ko percentage than Louis or Tyson.

By which logic, Vitali Klischko is our winner here at 93%.


Foreman made Holyfield fear his power, Tyson on the other hand got knocked out by him

Is this just horrible grammatical construction or are you actually saying that Foreman KO'd Tyson?

[RockyJim]

Marciano...ask Walcott....or Rex Layne...etc. The man could bang..as well as break bones and rupture bloodvessels...

[janitor]

SusieQ Rocky Marciano fought Bill Hardeman record 1-4, Gilbert Cardone 0-1, Gilley Ferron 1-4, Jimmy Walls 9-15, Harold Mitchell 3-13 so you can take your LoLs else where. I guess its ok for Marciano to fight bums right?

Joe Louis fought Willie Davies 0-6, Art Sykes 4-5, Biff Bennet 6-10 and numerous other smaller fighters with subpar records of smaller guys with built up records

Ther is a big difference between fighting oponents of that calibre early in your career and fighting them when you are about to challenge for the heavyweight title.

The bottom line is thatForeman was prety much spoon fed up to the point where he challenges Frazier for the title while Louis and Marciano were prety much thrown to the wolves.

[janitor]

Toonder and lightning?

Not a bad shout.

The only thing Johansen seemed to have was that god given right hand punch.