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rooq
08-22-2009, 04:23 PM
I see the WBO introduced their european title earlier this year. Can anyone see unscrupulous european promoters (I'm looking at you Mr ******) steering their fighters towards this title as an alternative to the EBU? :think

zsolt bedek is defending his super-bantamweight WBO euro title shortly on ZDF (on the undercard of balzsay - steiglitz). The only other WBO euro title holder is heavyweight denis boystov

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ishy
08-22-2009, 04:30 PM
Didn't even know this title existed until now :lol:

I could see the German promoters going for this as I guess it'd bring a high WBO ranking like the EBU gives a good WBC rankings.

This is just some fake shitty Euro title anyway. The EBU is the true Euro title.

rooq
08-22-2009, 04:33 PM
This is just some fake shitty Euro title anyway. The EBU is the true Euro title.

we know that, but.....

ishy
08-22-2009, 04:34 PM
I don't think ****** would go for it. His fighters get high WBO rankings without fighting for WBO inter-bullshit titles ;)

rooq
08-22-2009, 04:38 PM
don't know...i think at one point kevin mitchell was practically trying to "unify" the various inter-continental titles :lol:

i think ****** will lap it up...nice niche title for his fighters who aren't quite EBU or WBO world level, and would rather not risk putting into a british title fight

ishy
08-22-2009, 04:39 PM
Would Sky allow it though? ****** only puts on British, C'wealth and Euro title fights now.

rooq
08-22-2009, 04:44 PM
Would Sky allow it though? ****** only puts on British, C'wealth and Euro title fights now.

they would as undercard fights i suppose. macca - lebedev was for the wbo intercontinental (although sky didn't show it live!)

Mazallan
08-22-2009, 04:44 PM
Isnt this just what Calzaghe held for years?

TFFP
08-22-2009, 04:54 PM
Isnt this just what Calzaghe held for years?
No.

colinthfc
08-22-2009, 05:00 PM
The EBU should then create a world title

Most world champs these days are European - 147 is the highest weight without a European world title holder

ishy
08-22-2009, 05:01 PM
The EBU should then create a world title

Most world champs these days are European - 147 is the highest weight without a European world title holder

We don't want another world title :lol:

But isn't that how it worked in the old days when a few fighters had 'claims' to the world title so you'd have the NYSAC recognised champ, BBBofC recognised champ and EBU recognised champ?

El Cepillo
08-22-2009, 05:21 PM
I'm fighting for the East-Hull Intercontiental Costcutter Title on Friday.

GPater11093
08-22-2009, 05:27 PM
haha Hoya

theres a title for everything

i can see fighters in the future getting a ttile for losing

Beeston Brawler
08-22-2009, 05:27 PM
At least you are a Kingston Rovers fan ;)

BigEars
08-22-2009, 05:28 PM
This title doesn't worry me too much, I don't think it will gain popularity.
The EBA(European Boxing Association) however, which is I believe a WBA initiative does worry me a little.

I feel that over time we could end up having more than one European title if that thing ever gains any prestige. Once you've got 2 it's only a doorway towards having even more titles.

Beeston Brawler
08-22-2009, 05:37 PM
I think the European title is long enough established and credible enough to remain the 'true' European title.

Most fighters and promoters respect that, whereas with world titles they are like kids in sweetshops for a number of reasons.

Put it this way, if I was a fighter.... prob 154lbs..... I would be chasing Mooresy like nothing other.... rather than a most probably weakass WBO EU 'champion'.

dan-b
08-23-2009, 05:44 AM
The alphabets must really be feeling the pinch at the moment to be creating more spurious belts. We need one of them to go under. Does anyone see that happening?

Dan684
08-23-2009, 05:56 AM
Hopefully. I'd like the WBC to go underm and be took over and merged by another (say the WBO) That way Sulamain could be fucked off !

dan-b
08-23-2009, 06:57 AM
Hopefully. I'd like the WBC to go underm and be took over and merged by another (say the WBO) That way Sulamain could be fucked off !

The WBC almost went under a few years back following the Rochigianni settlement. Sulaiman clawed his way back from the brink of death. What I hate about the WBC and, especially, the WBA is the fact they're the oldest belts but have no qualms about diluting their own history for the sake of money.

The WBO I have no time for at all, the IBF are, arguably, the best. They never create 'interim' titles but are very quick to strip people. I like the elimination tournaments they occasionally order.

Dan684
08-23-2009, 07:07 AM
Yep, I think the WBC is the most prestigious and if I was a boxer is the one i'd want most. If they went under and the WBO bought them out it'd sort 2 problems out for me. The WBO would surely be fucked off and they'd keep the green belt just put their funds to that thus creating a bit of bargaining power. We'd get rid of Sulamain and eventually just be left with 3 instead of four.

achillesthegreat
08-23-2009, 07:48 AM
ANOTHER BELT! I genuinely hope everyone involved in it's creation dies.

I wish the same thing upon every cunt involved in the WBC diamond belt.

This shit is disugsting.

It's getting to the stage where I hope a brand new org can come in and somehow wipe every other org out. Start from fresh and creat a new linear champ.

dan-b
08-23-2009, 09:52 AM
It's clear they have no interest in the well being of the sport and are only interested in leaching money from it. I can't believe how much money they charge in sanctioning fees. How much money must the likes of Hopkins, Jones and Lewis, who defended multiple belts several times, have given to these people over the years?

achillesthegreat
08-23-2009, 10:55 AM
It's clear they have no interest in the well being of the sport and are only interested in leaching money from it. I can't believe how much money they charge in sanctioning fees. How much money must the likes of Hopkins, Jones and Lewis, who defended multiple belts several times, have given to these people over the years?

3% was the sanctioning fee, the last I knew.

scurlaruntings
08-23-2009, 04:55 PM
The alphabets must really be feeling the pinch at the moment to be creating more spurious belts. We need one of them to go under. Does anyone see that happening?Not likely. The WBC should have, and i think they filled for Chapter 11 when Rocky sued them succesfully for stripping him and awarding the belt to Jones. What boxing needs is an indepedant regulatory commision that all the Organisations must adhere too to prevent these occurences. May be it could be federal as well which would go a long way in ensuring theres no partiality or corruption.

A belt like this wont ever make any head way. This situtation kind of reminds me of the "English title". Not that popular anymore is it.. Why? Because fighters couldnt make any money off it. The same happened to the WBU. Those cretins invented weight divisions that never existed. They had no mandatory challengers or a ranking system for challengers to their belts. And currently they only have 2 fighters holding their belt. Choi and Limmond. The rest are vacant.

There were a ton of start up sanctioning bodies in the late 90's early 2000's and all of them have failed. There was a time when there were British fighters contesting the IBU IBA IBC WBF WBU etc those times have gone thank god.

mrbassie
08-23-2009, 05:03 PM
Brilliant! Another title and not before time. They should go one better and have one for eastern Europe and one for the west. I can't wait until the other orgs follow suit, boxing will be well and truly sorted then. Just imagine it, nobody need ever be in a competitive matchup again. Brilliant!