Wil Vitali Klitschko forego McCline and go right for the Peter Maskaev winner?

[Heavyrighthand]

But with yet another training setback, it appears unlikely that the fight with McCline will be rescheduled. Assuming Klitschko recovers from the latest injury, he probably will take advantage of his mandatory status by forgoing a tune-up and fighting the Maskaev-Peter winner in his first fight back.

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Not sure how smart that would be, given that he will have been inactive for over three years, by then. But then agian, if he don't take the titleshot when he can get it, it may not be avialable later.


Asked if he could name a new date for the fight with McCline, Klitschko replied: "Please give me a few weeks. I can't understand what has happened.

"This is a major low blow. I need to assess the situation with my whole team and then I will say what the next steps are and how we continue."

His coach, Fritz Sdunek, is hopeful Klitschko will be back in the ring soon.

"He has had a lot of bad luck," Sdunek said in a statement released by Klitschko's promoters.

"He needs to think positively now. Despite the short-term blow I am sure we will see him back in the ring soon."

The surgery has left Klitschko, who cited a string of injuries for his first retirement, in defiant mood.

He said: "I can deal with the physical pain. I have been in a training camp for nine weeks. But (to get injured) so shortly before a fight really hurts. Max Schmeling used to say 'Don't remain on the ground, stand up and continue'.

"That is something I will do now. I am convinced you can accomplish all your goals when thinking positively."


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[lefthook31]

He should forego any thought of fighting and retire!

[brooklyn1550]

I see him skipping a tune-up fight at this point and fighting either Maskaev or Peter in 2008 sometime. But can he make it through another intense training camp? Could it be possible that we've seen him throw his final punch?

[Cachibatches]

He should forego any thought of fighting and retire!
Agreed.

Even if he hypothetically could get himself into shape for one fight and get it back, he has to understand that he is going to be feeling each on of these injuries later in life.

He could literally end up in a wheel chair, especially if he doesn't quit.

Just like we don't want to see Lennox come back because we care about the fighters as human beings, so we should not encourage this thing.

[brooklyn1550]

The more I think about this, if Vitali's body can't go through an entire training camp without being injured, then he should call it a career. His body isn't meant to do this anymore. Ashame because he and Wlad, when both at the top of their games, could have ruled the division.

[mykolakozak]

Hold on a minute. Its a slipped disc surgery. Slip disc can happen to Hercules and can happen to a baby. Superman was sitting in a wheelchair from falling from a horse. Its the same thing as slipping on a wet floor and banging your head against an extremely sharp object on the way down. This is an issue that can be fixed very well, and with his money he probably had the best Deutsch doctor there is working on him. This is not a health issue in a sense that puts an end to someone, but a pure misfortune.

Let the fight, or better yet fighter, go on. I believe Vitali has 3 more years left of HeavyWeight reshuffeling.

[lefthook31]

Hold on a minute. Its a slipped disc surgery. Slip disc can happen to Hercules and can happen to a baby. Superman was sitting in a wheelchair from falling from a horse. Its the same thing as slipping on a wet floor and banging your head against an extremely sharp object on the way down. This is an issue that can be fixed very well, and with his money he probably had the best Deutsch doctor there is working on him. This is not a health issue in a sense that puts an end to someone, but a pure misfortune.

Let the fight, or better yet fighter, go on. I believe Vitali has 3 more years left of HeavyWeight reshuffeling.

What about the other 8000 times he has been injured and cancelled a fight?

[Cachibatches]

Hold on a minute. Its a slipped disc surgery. Slip disc can happen to Hercules and can happen to a baby. Superman was sitting in a wheelchair from falling from a horse. Its the same thing as slipping on a wet floor and banging your head against an extremely sharp object on the way down. This is an issue that can be fixed very well, and with his money he probably had the best Deutsch doctor there is working on him. This is not a health issue in a sense that puts an end to someone, but a pure misfortune.

Let the fight, or better yet fighter, go on. I believe Vitali has 3 more years left of HeavyWeight reshuffeling.
I appreciate your entusiasm for your fighter, and we would all like to see him come back and make some noise. I hope I am wrong.

By Lefthook31's point is correct. We sense a pattern here.

Look, Chag and Sultan have made it. Virchis, Dimentrenko, and Peter are on the cusp. Haye will be swtiching to heavy permanaently soon. Povietkin, Boytsov, Chambers and Arreola are on deck. Solis could make a lot of noise if he could get his fat ass in shape.

My point- this division has repaired itself, and we are going to have a terrific new era of youngish, talented heavies challengeing Wladdy and each other. Its time to stop looking nostalgically to guys like Viataly, Lennox and Holyfield.

[TheGrimReaper]

a healthy vitali would no problem at all with maskaev or peter

[box03]

What about the other 8000 times he has been injured and cancelled a fight? I agree, the man seems to injure himself taking a piss. I just think its unfair to the fans and the boxers hes scheduled to fight, if I was a fighter I wouldnt even want to sign up to fight Vitali seeing that he will probably just back out anyways injury or not.

[thesandman]

When you have to pull out of 5 (FIVE!!!!) consecutive fight dates due to injury, that's a sign.

IF he even makes a fight, his opp should just do what KT did in his first fight with Sharmba.

he knew Sharmba's knee wasn't 100%. So he grabbed him, wrestled him, did everything to put stress on the knee. (Not to mention punching him in the face!!!)

Guys should do the same to Vitlays knees and back. Make him feel every one of his injuries and then some.

As KT said "once you enter the ring, everyone is 100% fit."

Harsh, but it's pro fighting we're talking about here.

[kg0208]

When you have to pull out of 5 (FIVE!!!!) consecutive fight dates due to injury, that's a sign.

IF he even makes a fight, his opp should just do what KT did in his first fight with Sharmba.

he knew Sharmba's knee wasn't 100%. So he grabbed him, wrestled him, did everything to put stress on the knee. (Not to mention punching him in the face!!!)

Guys should do the same to Vitlays knees and back. Make him feel every one of his injuries and then some.

As KT said "once you enter the ring, everyone is 100% fit."

Harsh, but it's pro fighting we're talking about here.

You have a point. It is fighting.

[Thread Stealer]

I don't know why any promoter (and fighter) would take such a gamble when his health is such a question mark.

Vitali is a mid 30s fighter who postponed/cancelled a fight FIVE straight times due to various injuries.

[mykolakozak]

I appreciate your entusiasm for your fighter, and we would all like to see him come back and make some noise. I hope I am wrong.

By Lefthook31's point is correct. We sense a pattern here.

Look, Chag and Sultan have made it. Virchis, Dimentrenko, and Peter are on the cusp. Haye will be swtiching to heavy permanaently soon. Povietkin, Boytsov, Chambers and Arreola are on deck. Solis could make a lot of noise if he could get his fat ass in shape.

My point- this division has repaired itself, and we are going to have a terrific new era of youngish, talented heavies challengeing Wladdy and each other. Its time to stop looking nostalgically to guys like Viataly, Lennox and Holyfield.

Without a doubt the division is holding more weight than it did probably ever since Lennox walked out on his word. But nonetheless, a Vitali for a couple of more fights would be that extra pixy dust that would definitely help out. Think of it this way. His next schedule will even raise more questions and curiosity, thus excitement, than his Sept 22 fight did.

"And now, after falling down for the 5th time, he finally appears..."

There is a famous poet in Ukraine, Lesia Ukrainka, who wrote a poem about the Scot Robert Bruce who got defeated (badly) 6 times by the Brits, but on the 7th time, after watching a spider failing to climb a string of web numerous of times but never giving up, Bruce got up once again against the Brits and defeated them. Maybe the same fate is waiting for Vitali.

I dont want to sound superficial or anything, but like there must be more to life, there should be some mystery to boxing. If Vitali comes back and still strikes his canons for sometime, imagine the inspiration and the (semi)legends to come. Boxing needs someone like him to hold on and succeed.

[thesandman]

Why does boxing need a semi-permenantly injured man in his mid 30's, who has never made a mandatory defence of his title - back so bad?

[Thread Stealer]

Why does boxing need a semi-permenantly injured man in his mid 30's, who has never made a mandatory defence of his title - back so bad?

You got me.

I know the heavyweight division is weak and all, but it doesn't need Vitali.

His brother is doing fine in the division anyway. He's by far the more relevant Klitschko.

[mykolakozak]

You got me.

I know the heavyweight division is weak and all, but it doesn't need Vitali.

His brother is doing fine in the division anyway. He's by far the more relevant Klitschko.
Going back to Coke vs Pepsi, Vitali was a much more powerful boxer than his brother. What he did Sanders, Sanders did to Wlad. What he did to Lennox, Lennox would do to Wlad. Vitali never truly lost, not once. He has 34 KOs over 35 wins, while his brother is 44 KOs over 49 wins.

His brother is not his brother. This is why Vitali needs to be back.

[box03]

Going back to Coke vs Pepsi, Vitali was a much more powerful boxer than his brother. What he did Sanders, Sanders did to Wlad. What he did to Lennox, Lennox would do to Wlad. Vitali never truly lost, not once. He has 34 KOs over 35 wins, while his brother is 44 KOs over 49 wins.

His brother is not his brother. This is why Vitali needs to be back. In late 04 I definitely thought Vitali was the better of the two more mentally than physically, Vitalis fights were great to watch cause most of them turned into slugfests. But right now in late 07 I dont see Vitali coming back better than his brother, but I would rather see Vitali unify than no chin Wlad.

[Thread Stealer]

Going back to Coke vs Pepsi, Vitali was a much more powerful boxer than his brother. What he did Sanders, Sanders did to Wlad. What he did to Lennox, Lennox would do to Wlad. Vitali never truly lost, not once. He has 34 KOs over 35 wins, while his brother is 44 KOs over 49 wins.

His brother is not his brother. This is why Vitali needs to be back.

:lol: :lol:

If your eye gets cut up and you can't continue, you lose. If your shoulder gets injured and you can't continue, you lose.

You know, part of being a boxer is having the body and durability to withstand the rigors of a prize fight. It's more than KO percentages.

Vitali was a good heavyweight, but his body has broken down from a lifetime of fighting. He postponed/cancelled FIVE STRAIGHT TIMES due to injury. Is he suddenly going to become healthy in his mid 30s? He took time off and still couldn't get healthy enough for a prize fight.

His body can't take the rigors anymore.

[thesandman]

Going back to Coke vs Pepsi, Vitali was a much more powerful boxer than his brother. What he did Sanders, Sanders did to Wlad. What he did to Lennox, Lennox would do to Wlad. Vitali never truly lost, not once. He has 34 KOs over 35 wins, while his brother is 44 KOs over 49 wins.

His brother is not his brother. This is why Vitali needs to be back.

Anybody that claims Vitlay "never truly lost" loses all credibility straight away.

Being stopped on bad cuts caused by legitimate punches, is a legitimate TKO loss, regardless of anything else. Irrespective of if he was ahead on the cards. The fight didn't make it past the halfway mark FFS.

Not being able to finish a fight because your shoulder fails is a legitimate TKO. A very unfortunate one, yes, but a legitimate one.

Even if you give him a "bad luck son" for the Byrd loss, Lewis battered Vitlay to a pulp with his fists.

What does

What he did to Lennox, Lennox would do to Wlad

mean? That Lennox would bleed all over Wlad? Put in a valiant but ultimately losing effort?? Exactly what?

[jisi]

If your eye gets cut up and you can't continue, you lose. If your shoulder gets injured and you can't continue, you lose.

100% agree. And Wladimir is working on his skills and become a more complete and better defense fighter with the help of Emanuel Steward.

Vitali should stay retired.

[Ambition_Def]

It's my opinion that the NSAC should have a ceiling on how often you can welch on contracts and tv dates before you are cut off.

[Cachibatches]

Without a doubt the division is holding more weight than it did probably ever since Lennox walked out on his word. But nonetheless, a Vitali for a couple of more fights would be that extra pixy dust that would definitely help out. Think of it this way. His next schedule will even raise more questions and curiosity, thus excitement, than his Sept 22 fight did.

"And now, after falling down for the 5th time, he finally appears..."

There is a famous poet in Ukraine, Lesia Ukrainka, who wrote a poem about the Scot Robert Bruce who got defeated (badly) 6 times by the Brits, but on the 7th time, after watching a spider failing to climb a string of web numerous of times but never giving up, Bruce got up once again against the Brits and defeated them. Maybe the same fate is waiting for Vitali.

I dont want to sound superficial or anything, but like there must be more to life, there should be some mystery to boxing. If Vitali comes back and still strikes his canons for sometime, imagine the inspiration and the (semi)legends to come. Boxing needs someone like him to hold on and succeed.
Bannokburn. A tactical masterpiece.

[DamonD]

It would seem very foolish, not to mention disrespectful to me to take on the WBC champ without even a warm-up after more than 3 years out of the ring.

Why does Vitali seem to think all this is just bad luck? Like some (repeated) coincidence that he keeps on getting injured?

[A-50]

It's my opinion that the NSAC should have a ceiling on how often you can welch on contracts and tv dates before you are cut off.

Klitschko was going to fight in Germany, the NSAC could not have done anything.

[A-50]

Seems to me many people are worried that if Peter beats Maskaev that Vitali would embarrass him. I happen to think if Peter beats Maskaev that Duva and King will do everything in their power to avoid Vitali Klitschko. Peter could not even beat Glass Jaw Wlad.

[ironchamp]

I on the other hand feel as though Vitaly is ready for the taking. The injuries arent going to go away all of a sudden and if he were to somehow get things together and pull of a successful training camp I'd still be worried how he handles the ring rust, how he handles his first trip back in ring against a "top tier" opponent.

People underestimate how layoff can affect you.

[MrMagic]

Well, we all know he ain't coming back.
The guy is more vulnerable than wet toilet paper for christ sake.

[mykolakozak]

Its not the inside of the ring that I fear for the old bro, its the pre-show. Fate will knock him out sooner than any boxer out there.

[Mendoza]

I see him skipping a tune-up fight at this point and fighting either Maskaev or Peter in 2008 sometime. But can he make it through another intense training camp? Could it be possible that we've seen him throw his final punch?


Vitlai need to forget about long camps. He is not the same fighter. If he wants to return to the ring, he needs to change things up a bit and train less.

Vitlay only needs to throw 15 less punches a round, clinch a bit more and commit to his power shots more than he has in the past. Then his stamina will be less of an issue. Throwing 70+ punches a round requires the type of work that risks pre-fight injuries.

[2ironmt]

Vitlai need to forget about long camps. He is not the same fighter. If he wants to return to the ring, he needs to change things up a bit and train less.

Vitlay only needs to throw 15 less punches a round, clinch a bit more and commit to his power shots more than he has in the past. Then his stamina will be less of an issue. Throwing 70+ punches a round requires the type of work that risks pre-fight injuries. an intelligent post.

[Heavyrighthand]

V. Klitschko wants Maskaev-Peter Winner Next


: 09-12-2007 by James Blears



World Boxing Council President Jose Sulaiman says tha former heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko, who recently suffered a back injury, has told him that he wants to fight the winner of the upcoming bout between WBC champion Oleg Maskaev and mandatory Samuel Peter, scheduled for Oct. 6 in New York's Madison Square Garden.

Don Jose explained that Vitali Klitschko phoned him and said that after he recovers from back surgery, he preferred to fight directly for the tittle at the beginning of the year.

Don Jose said that the fight against Jameel McCline fight has been cancelled, and that:

''Vitali wants to prove to himself and his people that he can become the champion of the world again and he's totally decieded to do that. But we are going to request from him a total and complete bill of health after his surgery, because we don't want to be subject to continuous postponements, which are not good for boxing.''

Vitali has struggled with injuries. His intended title fight against Hasim Rahman in 2005, had to be called off three times because of back and then a knee injury.

But Don Jose countered: ''Really I believe that boxing needs him. Vitali is very attractive for the world and I hope that he will be back.''



Yes!

This has the makings of a huge fight. Vitali will be seen as the underdog, with three plus years of inactivity, and three surgeries. But boxing fans will also realize that if he's *on*, and is back to being even half what he was in 2003, he'll hammer Maskaev or Peter, either one.

I like the way this is turning out, now. With this latest confirmation that Vitali is going for the title, *cold*, and without any warmup, he's showing he still has great confidence in himself.

I thought fighting McCline, after so long outta the ring was a ballsy move, but this is taking ballsy to another level.

[irishdjc33]

Bump...just for fun lol

[Robney]

Bump...just for fun lol
:lol:
Was just thinking, what the f#ck is this crap?!

[Wiirdo]

:lol:

Wow.

[MaliBua]

Well, we all know he ain't coming back.
The guy is more vulnerable than wet toilet paper for christ sake.
:lol::D

:nono

[MrMagic]

:lol::D

:nono

:lol:

He was! There was nobody more injury prone than Vitali back then, ask him, he'll tell you! :D

[TheGOAT]

MASKAEV vs. VITALI = MONEY fight. What a joke, I remember ole Oleg tryin' to chase down vitali sayin he beat him almost 40 years ago. LOL