Mundines next fight

[ashley]

Spoke to choc in Nowra last night. They are just waiting for a reply from the WBA on his next opponent. He is slowly recovering from his groin operation. Everything will be finalised very soon about his next fight. We go back into camp next weekend. The next fight wont be an easy one. We agreed on making a few changes so he will be better equipped to step up. The fight wont be in Sydney.

Thanks for the news mate :good

[balmain]

Spoke to choc in Nowra last night. They are just waiting for a reply from the WBA on his next opponent. He is slowly recovering from his groin operation. Everything will be finalised very soon about his next fight. We go back into camp next weekend. The next fight wont be an easy one. We agreed on making a few changes so he will be better equipped to step up. The fight wont be in Sydney.

[goodnight]

The fight wont be in Sydney.

does he have his visa for argentina?

[ashley]

does he have his visa for argentina?



:rofl:rofl:rofl......not funny.....besides its the states :D

[Contendo]

:rofl:rofl:rofl......not funny.....besides its the states :D


What Victoria, QLD, Tasmania again perhaps?? :D

[dominator]

does he have his visa for argentina?

Hahaha, that's a great one!

[ashley]

What Victoria, QLD, Tasmania again perhaps?? :D


Its a nice play on words.....I like it :cool:

[goodnight]

What Victoria, QLD, Tasmania again perhaps?? :D

Lets see:

in a state,
not in sydney,
overseas,


yep - must be tassie

[20a87]

Spoke to choc in Nowra last night. They are just waiting for a reply from the WBA on his next opponent. He is slowly recovering from his groin operation. Everything will be finalised very soon about his next fight. We go back into camp next weekend. The next fight wont be an easy one. We agreed on making a few changes so he will be better equipped to step up. The fight wont be in Sydney.

thanks for posting info!

Any chance you could give us an idea of what the first few weeks of training will be, is it a case of establishing a base fitness level or is it straight in to sport specific work?

also will any changes be made because of his injury?

[IrnBruMan]

This is the fight game boys....everybody is calling out everybody....most fighters talk shit to get more bums on seats.....and they always talk up themselves before a fight or after a win :deal

Ok so Mundines mouth is faster than his hands......and he has mastered the BS that's required to get PPV and gate sucess.

You can call him dumb and a loud mouth but in the end hes living his dream and fighting at "World Class Level"

Its all just fight hype so you tune in next time

(Is this what you mean about silver lining IrnBruMan :hi:)

No, I would call that 'retreat' since you've chosen to avoid the point and fall back on the good old 'this is the fight game blah blah blah' crap again.

[ashley]

No, I would call that 'retreat' since you've chosen to avoid the point and fall back on the good old 'this is the fight game blah blah blah' crap again.

What do you mean fight game again?

[teke]

Poor Ashley,

There are at least 4 or 5 blokes on this board who could back him up with the truth but prefer to sit and watch him suffer :lol:

You know who you are :deal

[Francis75]

Who will be Mundine's next JOKE opponent ?

[ashley]

Who will be Mundine's next JOKE opponent ?


I will tell you if you join the nut hugger club....if not....just wait until the public announcement :D

[Sox]

I will tell you if you join the nut hugger club....if not....just wait until the public announcement :D
What's with the big secret, just spill ya guts.

[ashley]

What's with the big secret, just spill ya guts.

Its no secret....just join :yep

[Sox]

Its no secret....just join :yep
No thanks, I'd rather eat worms. :bart

[IrnBruMan]

What do you mean fight game again?

Look at the first sentence of your post that I quoted :roll:

[kflex101]

I've heard WBA title at 160 which has just been vacated, against an unamed Russian, likely in Australia.

Can't 100% confirm this, but was heard from a source very close to the camp.

[20a87]

I've heard WBA title at 160 which has just been vacated, against an unamed Russian, likely in Australia.

Can't 100% confirm this, but was heard from a source very close to the camp.

Mr 4 time!!! :happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy
Coming soon:

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Rise Above]

4 time paper champ. :yep

[ashley]

I've heard WBA title at 160 which has just been vacated, against an unamed Russian, likely in Australia.

Can't 100% confirm this, but was heard from a source very close to the camp.

Sounds about right Dimitry Pirog WBA #15.....15 - 0 (12)

[ajay11]

I've heard so many different "confirmed opponents" over the past few weeks that I doubt even Choc knows who'll be facing in his next bout.

Everything from fighting Felix Sturm or even Gennady Golovkin for the WBA middleweight title to featuring on the Mayweather v Mosley undercard v Daniel Jacobs.

I also heard that he'd be fighting Marco Antonio Rubio, Kelly Pavlik, Daniel Geale and Julio Chavez Jr.............

While I've got no doubt that Mundine has directed Khoder Nasser to line up a quality opponent, my feelings are that these conflicting rumors are nothing more than a reflection of their failure to work through negotiations and seal a deal.

The simple fact is that they will have to forget about the $$$$ if they want a top class opponent although that shouldn't be an issue this late in his career.

Unfortunately, by the time he gets his moment in the sun he may have lost that essential few percent required to compete at the top level. It would be no surprise to see a younger, hungrier, undefeated contender like Golovkin send Mundine into retirement and he'd have no one to blame but himself.

[ashley]

I've heard so many different "confirmed opponents" over the past few weeks that I doubt even Choc knows who'll be facing in his next bout.

Everything from fighting Felix Sturm or even Gennady Golovkin for the WBA middleweight title to featuring on the Mayweather v Mosley undercard v Daniel Jacobs.

I also heard that he'd be fighting Marco Antonio Rubio, Kelly Pavlik, Daniel Geale and Julio Chavez Jr.............

While I've got no doubt that Mundine has directed Khoder Nasser to line up a quality opponent, my feelings are that these conflicting rumors are nothing more than a reflection of their failure to work through negotiations and seal a deal.

The simple fact is that they will have to forget about the $$$$ if they want a top class opponent although that shouldn't be an issue this late in his career.

Unfortunately, by the time he gets his moment in the sun he may have lost that essential few percent required to compete at the top level. It would be no surprise to see a younger, hungrier, undefeated contender like Golovkin send Mundine into retirement and he'd have no one to blame but himself.

Good post mate....I can add 3 or 4 names to that list as well...and Pirog was just thrown in an hour ago.....I thing that does ring true is Mundine fighting the guy ranked 15 in the WBA :deal

[goodnight]

this is the kid of shit sending boxing fans away :-( a guy ranked 15th gets to fight for a world title against another contender for a vacant title made available because the real title holder gets elevated to super champion :dead

[ashley]

this is the kid of shit sending boxing fans away :-( a guy ranked 15th gets to fight for a world title against another contender for a vacant title made available because the real title holder gets elevated to super champion :dead

Firstly Sturm has decided not to fight his mandatory under universum....so he has a legal battle.

The WBA will strip him so its only faiR the number 1 ranked fighter gets first shot :deal

Wba rules state that a vacant title must be fought with 2 contenders in the top 15.

Dont underestimate Pirog....this is no easy fight...he won every round against Kofi Jantuah...who KO'ed Marco Antonio Rubio round 1 :adminand has 2 world title fights against AA and Kassim Ouma

I would rather Mundine fight Geale again as he's number 14....at least fighting Geale hes knows he wont get KTFO :deal

[Sox]

I've heard so many different "confirmed opponents" over the past few weeks that I doubt even Choc knows who'll be facing in his next bout.

Everything from fighting Felix Sturm or even Gennady Golovkin for the WBA middleweight title to featuring on the Mayweather v Mosley undercard v Daniel Jacobs.

I also heard that he'd be fighting Marco Antonio Rubio, Kelly Pavlik, Daniel Geale and Julio Chavez Jr.............

While I've got no doubt that Mundine has directed Khoder Nasser to line up a quality opponent, my feelings are that these conflicting rumors are nothing more than a reflection of their failure to work through negotiations and seal a deal.

The simple fact is that they will have to forget about the $$$$ if they want a top class opponent although that shouldn't be an issue this late in his career.

Unfortunately, by the time he gets his moment in the sun he may have lost that essential few percent required to compete at the top level. It would be no surprise to see a younger, hungrier, undefeated contender like Golovkin send Mundine into retirement and he'd have no one to blame but himself.
Finally, a hugger who talks sense. :good
Does this mean there's hope for the rest of them?

[Sox]

I would rather Mundine fight Geale again as he's number 14....at least fighting Geale hes knows he wont get KTFO :deal
Neither will Geale. :lol:
Mandy will lose though. :deal

[ashley]

Finally, a hugger who talks sense. :good
Does this mean there's hope for the rest of them?

Ummm...no :yep

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Geale v Mundine is the logical, sensible match-up and that's probably reason enough that it won't happen!!

[ashley]

Geale v Mundine is the logical, sensible match-up and that's probably reason enough that it won't happen!!

I thought you wanted Mundine to step up :yep

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I thought you wanted Mundine to step up :yep

Would you say a match-up with the 15th ranked (for example) is stepping up??

Seemed to be very evenly matched with Geale first time around - evenly enough that the second time didn't happen!

[balmain]

Had lunch with the guys at the grange last week. Because of the close scoring of the fight the Geale camp want a rematch. The problem is so does Danny Green Rob Medley and everybody else choc fights. The guy Pirog that has been mentioned is not fighting. Chocs next fight will be announced shortly. And he is stepping up. But Im sure it wont make everybody happy.

[thejokerswild]

I would like to see Geale v Mundine for Geales sake. Although looking like a sheep rooter, the man can fight and has a future imo, he deserves and would benefit with Mundines name under his belt.

[balmain]

Had lunch with the guys at the grange last week. Because of the close scoring of the fight the Geale camp want a rematch. The problem is so does Danny Green Rob Medley and everybody else choc fights. The guy Pirog that has been mentioned is not fighting. Chocs next fight will be announced shortly. And he is stepping up. But Im sure it wont make everybody happy.

[ashley]

Had lunch with the guys at the grange last week. Because of the close scoring of the fight the Geale camp want a rematch. The problem is so does Danny Green Rob Medley and everybody else choc fights. The guy Pirog that has been mentioned is not fighting. Chocs next fight will be announced shortly. And he is stepping up. But Im sure it wont make everybody happy.

Pirog has a WBC title eliminator.....its not on boxrec just yet.......anyway it did sound half feasible though due to being WBA # 15 :hey

If its a "real "step up as you say then everybody should be happy....I know I will be :deal

[boxoncottonon]

Had lunch with the guys at the grange last week. Because of the close scoring of the fight the Geale camp want a rematch. The problem is so does Danny Green Rob Medley and everybody else choc fights. The guy Pirog that has been mentioned is not fighting. Chocs next fight will be announced shortly. And he is stepping up. But Im sure it wont make everybody happy.



You have stated he is stepping up but not everybody will be happy.
Is the opponent comming off a long layoff or out of retirement?

Do you believe the opponent is a Qaulity fighter ready to bang 12 rounds with "The Pioneer"?

Or is it viewed as a tune up fight?

Your earliest response would be greatly appreciated.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Interesting Geale's name is getting mentioned again.

Haven't seen one even half a good reason why the IBO middleweight mandatory didn't happen.

...the interest was there.
...the title was there.
...the contest was there.
...there was a re-match clause in the original contract.
...the IBO called the mandatory, set the date, and....

...the belt went in the bin and more division hopping, and for what gain??

[balmain]

Do I agree the opponent is a quality fighter? Well lets see. He will be a world rated middleweight. The same weight division as choc. He wont be coming out of retirement and has been active. He probably will want a rematch after he loses and it wont be a guy over 40. And like I said not everybody will be happy.

[balmain]

Do I agree the opponent is a quality fighter? Well lets see. He will be a world rated middleweight. The same weight division as choc. He wont be coming out of retirement and has been active. He probably will want a rematch after he loses and it wont be a guy over 40. And like I said not everybody will be happy.

[20a87]

Do I agree the opponent is a quality fighter? Well lets see. He will be a world rated middleweight. The same weight division as choc. He wont be coming out of retirement and has been active. He probably will want a rematch after he loses and it wont be a guy over 40. And like I said not everybody will be happy.

:deal

Is it for a title?

[LeonMcS]

If be title you mean one where you beat the defending, reigning champ, then no.

[balmain]

There will be a press conference next week. We go into camp Monday.

[goodnight]

There will be a press conference next week. We go into camp Monday.

[balmain]

The guy will will be a better fighter than Stipe Dewes

[LeonMcS]

Whats it like being on Chocs payroll Jeff?

[balmain]

I was asked by choc before the Medley fight to join him. I have known him since he was a baby so we know each other very well. He listens and things we didnt have time to work on for the Medley fight we will be hopefully correcting this time. Things that Tony wanted corrected but you know nobody listens to their fathers. And yes before anyone asks. The pays very good.

[JOSEY WALES]

I was asked by choc before the Medley fight to join him. I have known him since he was a baby so we know each other very well. He listens and things we didnt have time to work on for the Medley fight we will be hopefully correcting this time. Things that Tony wanted corrected but you know nobody listens to their fathers. And yes before anyone asks. The pays very good.

Well lets hope it a a step in the right direction for his fans sake but seriously if he is fighting that contender guy then he should be shot with shit , Mundine WAS an undisputed world class level fighter but its continuingly taking on blokes that should not be allowed to lace his Gloves that has made him a laughing stock , Do You think fighting guy's at the level he has been fighting is going to be any good for him when /If he eventually steps up to world class level again ?
Ps how is Tony Mundine doing these day's ? and just out of interest has he ever discussed his fight with Monzon with you ?

[balmain]

Josey I dont match his fights. When asked I give my opinion thats as far as it goes. I speak to choc on a regular basis. I always have. I like everybody else would like to see choc take on the leading champions and I hope it happens this year. I have spoken to Tony many times about the Monzon fight. In my eyes Tony was born to soon.

[balmain]

Josey I dont match his fights. When asked I give my opinion thats as far as it goes. I speak to choc on a regular basis. I always have. I like everybody else would like to see choc take on the leading champions and I hope it happens this year. I have spoken to Tony many times about the Monzon fight. In my eyes Tony was born to soon.

[JOSEY WALES]

Josey I dont match his fights. When asked I give my opinion thats as far as it goes. I speak to choc on a regular basis. I always have. I like everybody else would like to see choc take on the leading champions and I hope it happens this year. I have spoken to Tony many times about the Monzon fight. In my eyes Tony was born to soon.

Balmain, Fair goes mate but i can't really understand the reasoning behind Mundine these day's and the decisions he makes in choice of opposition take Meadley for instance , now i don't mean any dispespect to Rob here but his last fight up prior to Fighting Choc was v guy who was something like 5-5-0 if i'm not mistaken , That level is just not exceptable if you want to be considered "World Class " ,

Now moving on to the important part ,lol Would you care to share with us old Tony Mundines opinion's of his fight with Monzon ? and yes Anthony Senior was defo born too early imo also , just imagine what he could have achived with his natuaral ability mixed with modern training .

[balmain]

Please understand I am Anthony Mundine through and through. And honestly I am not a fan of choc fighting Australians or fighting in Australia but that is the way they have decided to go. Khoder is his manager and he has kept choc on top for a long time now. As for Anthony William he was a guy who struggled to make 160lb and couldnt handle Argentina. He was threatened daily by the locals and after being treated like a king in France was in a place to him was like hell. Monzons ability didnt help either.

[balmain]

Please understand I am Anthony Mundine through and through. And honestly I am not a fan of choc fighting Australians or fighting in Australia but that is the way they have decided to go. Khoder is his manager and he has kept choc on top for a long time now. As for Anthony William he was a guy who struggled to make 160lb and couldnt handle Argentina. He was threatened daily by the locals and after being treated like a king in France was in a place to him was like hell. Monzons ability didnt help either.

[JOSEY WALES]

Please understand I am Anthony Mundine through and through. And honestly I am not a fan of choc fighting Australians or fighting in Australia but that is the way they have decided to go. Khoder is his manager and he has kept choc on top for a long time now. As for Anthony William he was a guy who struggled to make 160lb and couldnt handle Argentina. He was threatened daily by the locals and after being treated like a king in France was in a place to him was like hell. Monzons ability didnt help either.

At last a level headed Mundine supporter ( There may indeed be a god ) lol ,
Yes Mundine Jr has had a very rewarding career money wise ( And good for him as far too many end up without a pot to piss in) but he will wake up one day in about 30 years time and have to admit to himself that for the second half of his career at least he faced " Ziltch"

I had no idea Senior had it so hard down in Argentina , is that why Choc has been taking it out on their entire Taxi trade in recent years ? :lol:. But in all seriousness fighters visiting a country attempting to capture a title should be given a fair go , ( I'm still ashamed of the way Hagler was treated during his trip here to fight Minter ) :oops: But all said and done Mundine senior has a remarkable career spanning well over 20 years and almost a 100 pro fights , Fair goes and he only gets love from this fight fan . :good

[Sydney Smutt]

It was all the Welshmen they let into the stadium that treated the Marvellous One so badly Josey! Seriously though, that was an abysmal day in English sports history and one that should never be lived down!!!

So are you trying to say Ashley and 20-whatever-his-fucking-name-is aren't level headed.....

[JOSEY WALES]

It was all the Welshmen they let into the stadium that treated the Marvellous One so badly Josey! Seriously though, that was an abysmal day in English sports history and one that should never be lived down!!!

So are you trying to say Ashley and 20-whatever-his-fucking-name-is aren't level headed.....

:lol: No Ash can be very level headed at times but having a conversation with the likes of Balimain is what a boxing forum should be all about ie a real pleasure . as for the Minter fight i watched it way back then Live on "Sportsnight " i think and remember thinking WTH is with that shit ,those clowns :oops: an entire nation that night .:-(

[Sydney Smutt]

very, very true

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Balmain,

Is there anything that can be read into the fact that Choc is currently working with one of Australia's greatest ever southpaws?

Seeming not to have a great preference for fighting them, his last southpaw opponent was Bargero about 10 years ago, could this be a sign that there's a southpaw in Choc's sights?

...local lefty Pittman has been making some noise in Mundine's direction for a while, but he's got an April date set with Kariuki.

[balmain]

No I dont know anything about choc fighting a southpaw in the near future. He came down to Nowra to watch Joey Williams fight last week and we talked mainly about what he wants to do as far as changes from last time. He drove back straight after Joeys fight. I arrive in Sydney on Monday. Hopefully we can train early as most of us are going out to the football. I would say I will know all the details for his fight then but there has been no talk of southpaws.

[balmain]

No I dont know anything about choc fighting a southpaw in the near future. He came down to Nowra to watch Joey Williams fight last week and we talked mainly about what he wants to do as far as changes from last time. He drove back straight after Joeys fight. I arrive in Sydney on Monday. Hopefully we can train early as most of us are going out to the football. I would say I will know all the details for his fight then but there has been no talk of southpaws.

[ashley]

No I dont know anything about choc fighting a southpaw in the near future. He came down to Nowra to watch Joey Williams fight last week and we talked mainly about what he wants to do as far as changes from last time. He drove back straight after Joeys fight. I arrive in Sydney on Monday. Hopefully we can train early as most of us are going out to the football. I would say I will know all the details for his fight then but there has been no talk of southpaws.

Come on mate....you can tell us.....just accidently slip it into your next post....nobody will notice :D

[ashley]

Now I'm not drinking today and I'm pretty excited about Mundines next fight announcement but I'm seeing double every time Balmain posts....do I need help or can every body see this as well :nut

[balmain]

Just stay on board ash. I cant say to much in case Khoder reads this forum. Glad you support choc as I am a fan also. I know for a fact choc wants to fight Kelly Pavlik and I honestly believe it will happen this year. Khoder made choc available for april but HBO decided on Martinez. Anyway lets just see what is announced next week.

[ashley]

Just stay on board ash. I cant say to much in case Khoder reads this forum. Glad you support choc as I am a fan also. I know for a fact choc wants to fight Kelly Pavlik and I honestly believe it will happen this year. Khoder made choc available for april but HBO decided on Martinez. Anyway lets just see what is announced next week.

Thanks for saying that mate...I had heard this info from a few guys close to the camp as well...but glad someone with your reputation confirmed that choc was and is chasing Pavlik :good

[balmain]

Just stay on board ash. I cant say to much in case Khoder reads this forum. Glad you support choc as I am a fan also. I know for a fact choc wants to fight Kelly Pavlik and I honestly believe it will happen this year. Khoder made choc available for april but HBO decided on Martinez. Anyway lets just see what is announced next week.

[JOSEY WALES]

Balmain,

Is there anything that can be read into the fact that Choc is currently working with one of Australia's greatest ever southpaws?

Seeming not to have a great preference for fighting them, his last southpaw opponent was Bargero about 10 years ago, could this be a sign that there's a southpaw in Choc's sights?

...local lefty Pittman has been making some noise in Mundine's direction for a while, but he's got an April date set with Kariuki.

Nah mate Bally said it would be a fighter currently fighting at Middleweight and Jamie as you know is training to fight fight @ 168lbs , ain't he ? :huh

[20a87]

At last a level headed Mundine supporter ( There may indeed be a god ) lol ,
Yes Mundine Jr has had a very rewarding career money wise ( And good for him as far too many end up without a pot to piss in) but he will wake up one day in about 30 years time and have to admit to himself that for the second half of his career at least he faced " Ziltch"

I had no idea Senior had it so hard down in Argentina , is that why Choc has been taking it out on their entire Taxi trade in recent years ? :lol:. But in all seriousness fighters visiting a country attempting to capture a title should be given a fair go , ( I'm still ashamed of the way Hagler was treated during his trip here to fight Minter ) :oops: But all said and done Mundine senior has a remarkable career spanning well over 20 years and almost a 100 pro fights , Fair goes and he only gets love from this fight fan . :good
Pervy phony :hi:

Posting on a mundine thread again? shock. You sure have no interest in mundine :roll:.

Just stay on board ash. I cant say to much in case Khoder reads this forum. Glad you support choc as I am a fan also. I know for a fact choc wants to fight Kelly Pavlik and I honestly believe it will happen this year. Khoder made choc available for april but HBO decided on Martinez. Anyway lets just see what is announced next week.

I figured HBO was the reason, pavlik is beatable all day long by "the man". Maybe my ring belt predictions weren't so far fetched :good

[boxoncottonon]

I figured HBO was the reason.........

The reason for what champ?

[JOSEY WALES]

Pervy phony

Posting on a mundine thread again? shock. You sure have no interest in mundine .

I figured HBO was the reason, pavlik is beatable all day long by "the man". Maybe my ring belt predictions weren't so far fetched :good,,,,,,:lol:

:hi: Wilson .

[goodnight]

I figured HBO was the reason, pavlik is beatable all day long by "the man". Maybe my ring belt predictions weren't so far fetched :good,,,,,,:lol:

lol nearly choked on my fucken toast...:lol:

[LeonMcS]

So Khoder just rocks up and says 'Hey, Anthonys available in April!'

Yeah, I'm amazed that didn't work.

[ashley]

So Khoder just rocks up and says 'Hey, Anthonys available in April!'

Yeah, I'm amazed that didn't work.


It’s interesting that now the news has come out from respected industry person (not just forum huggers :hey) that Mundine did make several plays for Pavlik...why do you think it's necessary to belittle any offer that went forward?

Everyone on here wants choc to step up....it’s now confirmed that he has done and is doing so...not just step up but to fight the undisputed MW champ :deal

Instead of looking like a dick saying Khoder "just rocked up" why don’t you admit your wrong about choc chasing Pavlik first :deal

Further to this Pavliks fights with Espino and Rubio have no merit above Pavlik fighting choc.

Yes choc should have fought Manfredo, Lacy or some other top 15 contenders in the US to build profile and he may have got the fight sooner.....I agree with this

Anyway Leon you just look like a sook not even acknowledging that Choc is going hard at Pavlik while all the time implying he’s doing nothing to get the big fights :tong

Man up and admit your wrong :lol:

[boxoncottonon]

I figured HBO was the reason.......

HBO wasn't the reason.

"The Pioneers" pathetic international profile may have had something to do with it.
Just putting it out there.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I for one am relieved to hear that Flash feels Mundine shouldn't be concentrating on local fighters, has the courage to say so, and actually believes Mundine will step-up.

'Will Mundine ever step up' has been the most commonly heard expression in Australian boxing for years, and it's high time all the hot air actually amounted to something.

Gotta say though, it's one thing to say you're 'made yourself available for a month' and another entirely to hotly pursue a match-up until the deal's done.

[IrnBruMan]

Wow, Mundine says he's been chasing Pavlik so it must be true.

Just like he chased Calzaghe and then ducked him by saying ******'s offer was pathetic.

Just like he chased Kessler for a rematch for 2 years and then fled down to MW when Kessler became his mandatory.

Funny how the guys Mundine says he's chasing apparently all duck him, yet when one of them falls into his lap (Kessler) he runs away to a lower weight division.

Then there's the endless excuses why he doesn't get the big fights - purse split not good enough, PayTV companies won't see eye to eye, yadda yadda yadda, but the best one of all, the one that ashley continually uses without even batting an eyelid, totally unashamedly, is that there was no point in Mundine fighting Kessler again because he was always going to lose to him.

That there is the essense of the very opposite of intestinal fortitude. Not wanting to rematch a guy who beat you because you don't think you can beat him. What's he in the sport for?

Yep, everything Mundine says must be true.

[ashley]

HBO wasn't the reason.

"The Pioneers" pathetic international profile may have had something to do with it.
Just putting it out there.

Agree mate...choc cant compete against Martinez in profile on the world stage :deal

My main point is Choc has been chasing Pavlik for 1 year...you cant tell me Espino has more profile that choc :yep

To add to this choc had the IBO 160 strap and while its not the big 4 it still has international respect.

Also I think Pavlik should have fought choc because he would have been a much better warm up fight for the likes of PW and Martinez....Espino fights nothing like them.

[ashley]

Wow, Mundine says he's been chasing Pavlik so it must be true.

Just like he chased Calzaghe and then ducked him by saying ******'s offer was pathetic.

Just like he chased Kessler for a rematch for 2 years and then fled down to MW when Kessler became his mandatory.

Funny how the guys Mundine says he's chasing apparently all duck him, yet when one of them falls into his lap (Kessler) he runs away to a lower weight division.

Then there's the endless excuses why he doesn't get the big fights - purse split not good enough, PayTV companies won't see eye to eye, yadda yadda yadda, but the best one of all, the one that ashley continually uses without even batting an eyelid, totally unashamedly, is that there was no point in Mundine fighting Kessler again because he was always going to lose to him.

That there is the essense of the very opposite of intestinal fortitude. Not wanting to rematch a guy who beat you because you don't think you can beat him. What's he in the sport for?

Yep, everything Mundine says must be true.

I bet it hurts to know you are wrong :lol:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Agree mate...choc cant compete against Martinez in profile on the world stage :deal

My main point is Choc has been chasing Pavlik for 1 year...you cant tell me Espino has more profile that choc :yep

To add to this choc had the IBO 160 strap and while its not the big 4 it still has international respect.

Also I think Pavlik should have fought choc because he would have been a much better warm up fight for the likes of PW and Martinez....Espino fights nothing like them.

Don't strongly disagree with what you've written but...

Why the hell didn't he meet the mandatory with Geale???

...the interest was there.
...the title was there.
...the contest was there.
...there was a re-match clause in the original contract.
...the IBO called the mandatory, set the date, and....

...he went on a starvation diet, the belt went in the bin and for what bloody gain mate??

Do you think Mundine just plain decided the IBO belt was worthless??

[ashley]

Don't strongly disagree with what you've written but...

Why the hell didn't he meet the mandatory with Geale???

...the interest was there.
...the title was there.
...the contest was there.
...there was a re-match clause in the original contract.
...the IBO called the mandatory, set the date, and....

...he went on a starvation diet, the belt went in the bin and for what bloody gain mate??

Do you think Mundine just plain decided the IBO belt was worthless??

No I dont think so at all.

I do think Khoder play hard and thought he could push the IBO round....he was wrong :deal

I do know the comment from team Mundine was for Dan to go win another title (vacant IBO or another) before we go round again.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

No I dont think so at all.

I do think Khoder play hard and thought he could push the IBO round....he was wrong :deal

I do know the comment from team Mundine was for Dan to go win another title (vacant IBO or another) before we go round again.

I know it's a business. Boxing ceased being a sport decades ago...

...but 'bring me a title or I won't fight you' is a bit bloody rich!

Particularly when Geale bought a title to the table for their first meeting, and the close PTS decision resulted in a mandatory ruling from the organisation!

What did Mundine really bring to the table for first bout with Geale?

...other than the promise that of a lot of people hoping to see Mundine lose, would actually be prepared to pay for the privilege??

[ashley]

I know it's a business. Boxing ceased being a sport decades ago...

...but 'bring me a title or I won't fight you' is a bit bloody rich!

Particularly when Geale bought a title to the table for their first meeting, and the close PTS decision resulted in a mandatory ruling from the organisation!

What did Mundine really bring to the table for first bout with Geale?

...other than the promise that of a lot of people hoping to see Mundine lose, would actually be prepared to pay for the privilege??

You just answered you own question :yep

[fast hands]

When the Pioneer & Nasser have got over their shock watching two real warriors Pavlik & Martinez do their stuff in April . The main topic of conversation will be " how to get Choc's weight down to somewhere near 154 "

[LeonMcS]

It’s interesting that now the news has come out from respected industry person (not just forum huggers :hey) that Mundine did make several plays for Pavlik...why do you think it's necessary to belittle any offer that went forward?

Everyone on here wants choc to step up....it’s now confirmed that he has done and is doing so...not just step up but to fight the undisputed MW champ :deal

Instead of looking like a dick saying Khoder "just rocked up" why don’t you admit your wrong about choc chasing Pavlik first :deal

Further to this Pavliks fights with Espino and Rubio have no merit above Pavlik fighting choc.

Yes choc should have fought Manfredo, Lacy or some other top 15 contenders in the US to build profile and he may have got the fight sooner.....I agree with this

Anyway Leon you just look like a sook not even acknowledging that Choc is going hard at Pavlik while all the time implying he’s doing nothing to get the big fights :tong

Man up and admit your wrong :lol:




The info comes from someone on Chocs payroll nitwit. If you know so much then furnish us with details of the offers made.

Maybe they went with Martinez because, oh I don't know, his two high profile fights with Cintron, a contentious draw and a very spirited effort against Williams, another contentious decision, which was a main event on worldwide ppv.

I'll see your Espino and raise you Falliga. I'm sure that fight would have had HBO execs drooling eh?

Honestly ash, I wouldn't even compare arguing debating you to shooting fish in a barrel. Its more like shooting a fish thats been nailed to a board that is then tied to the end of the rifle.

[20a87]

HBO wasn't the reason.

"The Pioneers" pathetic international profile may have had something to do with it.
Just putting it out there.

More likely HBO felt they owed martinez another big fight so turned the screws for pw or martinez to be the opponent

I bet it hurts to know you are wrong :lol:

CP must be used to being wrong by now, he has more than enough practice.

I know it's a business. Boxing ceased being a sport decades ago...

...but 'bring me a title or I won't fight you' is a bit bloody rich!

Particularly when Geale bought a title to the table for their first meeting, and the close PTS decision resulted in a mandatory ruling from the organisation!

What did Mundine really bring to the table for first bout with Geale?

...other than the promise that of a lot of people hoping to see Mundine lose, would actually be prepared to pay for the privilege??

Geale's biggest payday, a name, the reputation as the best in Australia, publicity and a set of skills geale couldn't handle. :deal

[ashley]

The info comes from someone on Chocs payroll nitwit. If you know so much then furnish us with details of the offers made.

Maybe they went with Martinez because, oh I don't know, his two high profile fights with Cintron, a contentious draw and a very spirited effort against Williams, another contentious decision, which was a main event on worldwide ppv.

I'll see your Espino and raise you Falliga. I'm sure that fight would have had HBO execs drooling eh?

Honestly ash, I wouldn't even compare arguing debating you to shooting fish in a barrel. Its more like shooting a fish thats been nailed to a board that is then tied to the end of the rifle.

If you could only read I said choc cant compete with Martinez on the world stage in regard to profile :-(

What I did say is the fight with Espino should have been against choc :deal

Mundine took Falinga because Pavlik was stalling on fighting choc late last year after choc won the IBO belt.

Choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik......Im sure you could make a phone call right now to a guy we both know and confirm if this is true :yep

But like I said you cant admit your wrong :lol:

Oh and no way will I throw my good info at a hater like you :tong

[LeonMcS]

If you could only read I said choc cant compete with Martinez on the world stage in regard to profile :-(

What I did say is the fight with Espino should have been against choc :deal

Mundine took Falinga because Pavlik was stalling on fighting choc late last year after choc won the IBO belt.

Choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik......Im sure you could make a phone call right now to a guy we both know and confirm if this is true :yep

But like I said you cant admit your wrong :lol:

Oh and no way will I throw my good info at a hater like you :tong

Like most people with any modicum of sense would realise, its the champ that makes the belt, not the other way around. Choc could be swinging it over his head round and round and it won't make any difference. Pavliks the man, he can pick and choose and in this situation, its a B grade belt against a guy only hardcore fans will have heard of, let alone seen.

Fighting nuff nuffs in his own backyard for the last few years has now come back to haunt him. I have no sympathy for him or you.

Spin it how you want ash. Someone with a media background should be good at that.

[ashley]

Like most people with any modicum of sense would realise, its the champ that makes the belt, not the other way around. Choc could be swinging it over his head round and round and it won't make any difference. Pavliks the man, he can pick and choose and in this situation, its a B grade belt against a guy only hardcore fans will have heard of, let alone seen.

Fighting nuff nuffs in his own backyard for the last few years has now come back to haunt him. I have no sympathy for him or you.

Spin it how you want ash. Someone with a media background should be good at that.

Tend to agree mate...Espino's world profile is huge....choc just cant compete :lol:

Point I'm making is the proof is there that choc is trying to fight Pavlik.....shame you just cant admit that and get on with your life :rofl

[stiflers mum]

Tend to agree mate...Espino's world profile is huge....choc just cant compete :lol:

Point I'm making is the proof is there that choc is trying to fight Pavlik.....shame you just cant admit that and get on with your life :rofl
Espino lost to Manfredo in the first contender.his profile is huge.

[LeonMcS]

Yes, Choc is trying to fight Kelly Pavlik.

I challenge Kelly Pavlik. Look, now I am also.

[ashley]

Yes, Choc is trying to fight Kelly Pavlik.

I challenge Kelly Pavlik. Look, now I am also.



In relation to the first line.....congratz mate....I'm sure you will feel better getting that hate off your chest :yep

In relation to the second line....Well Peter, until I see your name acknowledged by Top rank, ring magazine and pavliks local paper as a fight under consideration you will just be that funny cunt from WA to me :lol:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

...Geale's biggest payday, a name, the reputation as the best in Australia, publicity and a set of skills geale couldn't handle.

Still in total denial about how close Geale pushed your pin-up boy I see.

The comment above still holds ie Geale bought a title to the table the first meeting and seems to be expected by the Mundine camp to bring one every time.

Plainly Mundine didn't want a bar of a rematch with Geale and couldn't run fast enough to a smaller/lighter opponent in Medley, and for what gain??

...absolutely ZIP mate!

...oh, except for successfully ducking Geale of course!


What's your excuse for Mundine not fighting Geale again 20a87??

Look forward with baited breath to your answer baby!

[IrnBruMan]

I bet it hurts to know you are wrong :lol:

Wrong about what? You trot that excuse out everytime someone brings up Mundine running away to MW when Kessler became his mandatory as if it's supposed to absolve him of all wrong-doing.

You're as full of shit as he is.

[IrnBruMan]

No I dont think so at all.

I do think Khoder play hard and thought he could push the IBO round....he was wrong :deal

I do know the comment from team Mundine was for Dan to go win another title (vacant IBO or another) before we go round again.

Oh gee, so now we have another excuse for Mundine not fighting decent opposition, or fulfilling his rematch obligations - "Khoder thought he could push the IBO around" :roll:

Let's see, so far we've got:

they ducked him
the purse split wasn't good enough
there was no point in him fighting Kessler again because he would never beat him
Khoder thought he could push the IBO around
Any more?

[IrnBruMan]

If you could only read I said choc cant compete with Martinez on the world stage in regard to profile :-(

What I did say is the fight with Espino should have been against choc :deal

Mundine took Falinga because Pavlik was stalling on fighting choc late last year after choc won the IBO belt.

Choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik......Im sure you could make a phone call right now to a guy we both know and confirm if this is true :yep

But like I said you cant admit your wrong :lol:

Oh and no way will I throw my good info at a hater like you :tong

Mate, you are fucking losing it - you've built yourself a nice little house of cards there, but at the end of the day, everyone else in boxing is doing their thing, and Mundine is doing fuck all.

Keep living the dream you pumpkin head.

[IrnBruMan]

Tend to agree mate...Espino's world profile is huge....choc just cant compete :lol:

Point I'm making is the proof is there that choc is trying to fight Pavlik.....shame you just cant admit that and get on with your life :rofl

Where's this proof mate?

Are you going to provide it or just keep talking shit about it?

[ashley]

Oh gee, so now we have another excuse for Mundine not fighting decent opposition, or fulfilling his rematch obligations - "Khoder thought he could push the IBO around" :roll:


Let's see, so far we've got:

they ducked him
the purse split wasn't good enough
there was no point in him fighting Kessler again because he would never beat him
Khoder thought he could push the IBO around
Any more?

:lol:.....now you said yesterday that you dont want anything negitive in your Green thread so maybe you should show the same respect to this Mundine thread :yep

[ashley]

Where's this proof mate?

Are you going to provide it or just keep talking shit about it?

We all know its true :deal....why dont you ask Leon if choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik after the Geal win :D

[goodnight]

Givve him a break, I mean sturm ducked him, now pavlik. I really do feel sorry for choc. Cunts should feel honoured that choc even knows who they are, and giving them a shot at his IBO title.

Maybe if those selfish pricks would just accept the purse in argentinian pesos, the fight would be made.

[LeonMcS]

Hes also ducking me Ash, he hasn't responded to my challenge yet.

Poor old ash, hes even blowing off the prosthetic toes on his wooden foot now.

[ashley]

Hes also ducking me Ash, he hasn't responded to my challenge yet.

Poor old ash, hes even blowing off the prosthetic toes on his wooden foot now.


Its kinda funny but the timing doesnt make sense......should of saved that one for when I was spitting the dummy :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

Where's this proof mate?

Are you going to provide it or just keep talking shit about it?

I see, you're obviously just gong to continue talking shit about it :roll:


:lol:.....now you said yesterday that you dont want anything negitive in your Green thread so maybe you should show the same respect to this Mundine thread :yep

We all know its true :deal....why dont you ask Leon if choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik after the Geal win :D

Why don't you provide some fucking proof instead of avoiding the question?

Better yet, why don't you just shut the fuck up about Mundine?

You must have too much spare time to be able to spend your days on here thinking up different ways of painting Mundine in a good light.

Oh well, whatever floats your boat I suppose, it's fucking sad though.

[ashley]

I see, you're obviously just gong to continue talking shit about it :roll:

Why don't you provide some fucking proof instead of avoiding the question?

Better yet, why don't you just shut the fuck up about Mundine?

You must have too much spare time to be able to spend your days on here thinking up different ways of painting Mundine in a good light.

Oh well, whatever floats your boat I suppose, it's fucking sad though.


You must be the only guy on this forum that has not read the newspaper reports from Ohio. :rofl..you know Pavliks home town....I think stiffy found it...he posted it here for all to see...the article mentions Mundine as 1 of 3 fighters that top rank and Pavlik are considering for his April fight. :deal

If you think I have made this up your on drugs

Oh and I will tell you what’s sad.....having an obsessive hate toward someone.....that’s just unhealthy.

I have no problems admitting I'm a Mundine nut hugger......but I can also say I don’t hate anybody....well maybe the Storm and the Broncos :D

In regard to spare time.....I get a bit....I have a good job....I work on my laptop 75% of the time so it allows me to have ESB window open for most of the day.

Oh and apart from US papers talking about Mundine fighting I have better proof than that....but Like I said I don’t share it with haters :tong

[Sox]

You must be the only guy on this forum that has not read the newspaper reports from Ohio. :rofl..you know Pavliks home town....I think stiffy found it...he posted it here for all to see...the article mentions Mundine as 1 of 3 fighters that top rank and Pavlik are considering for his April fight. :deal

If you think I have made this up your on drugs

Yeh but Ash, if your offer is only $1.50, then there may as well be no offer as it won't get taken seriously.

It's one thing to put in an offer to fight, however to offer an amount which you know will be refused, then it's not really a valid offer now is it.

It's much the same as Pet..... Leons offer. :yep

[the beaver]

I hate Manly and the sharks for what it's worth.

I also hate muttley's love of Green :patsch

[ashley]

I see, you're obviously just gong to continue talking shit about it :roll:

Why don't you provide some fucking proof instead of avoiding the question? ............


I was never avoiding the question...just stirring you up a bit :D



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Stiffy has a better story that has Mundine as the first fighter listed :lol:

[ashley]

Yeh but Ash, if your offer is only $1.50, then there may as well be no offer as it won't get taken seriously.

It's one thing to put in an offer to fight, however to offer an amount which you know will be refused, then it's not really a valid offer now is it.

It's much the same as Pet..... Leons offer. :yep


Do you know what the offer for Mundine to fight Pavlik was mate?

[Sox]

Do you know what the offer for Mundine to fight Pavlik was mate?
No I don't, but when this gets said for years, it's not all that hard to work out what's going on.
You know this anyway, but you want to cling on to something (his nuts) because you're a fan.

The rest of us are just realistic.

[LeonMcS]

I hope its not as top secret as the PPV numbers you made me promised never to reveal before telling everyone yourself a week later on the forum.

Nice work tightlips, did they ever track you down?

[ashley]

I hope its not as top secret as the PPV numbers you made me promised never to reveal before telling everyone yourself a week later on the forum.

Nice work tightlips, did they ever track you down?

You wanted to know....and I was told not to say anything for 1 week :tong

[JOSEY WALES]

We all know its true :deal....why dont you ask Leon if choc was using the IBO belt to entice Pavlik after the Geal win :D

:rofl:rofl:rofl You honestly think Pavlik gives a fly fuck about the IBO title ? He has much bigger things on his agenda than fighting a reletively unheared of fighter like Mundine,
Ash mate i know you are the self appointed Mundine spokesman on here but come on mate whoever is feeding you this so called info are probably laughing their bollocks off everytime you type mate as you are looking more and more foolish every day,
I respect you Ash but come on kid your here sometimes 18 hours a day singing & towing the Choc line ,
They are taking the piss out of you mate .Wise up Ash .
Btw Ohio is Pavliks Home State , Youngstown is his home town .

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Quote: Originally Posted by 20a87...Geale's biggest payday, a name, the reputation as the best in Australia, publicity and a set of skills geale couldn't handle.

Still in total denial about how close Geale pushed your pin-up boy I see.

The comment above still holds ie Geale bought a title to the table the first meeting and seems to be expected by the Mundine camp to bring one every time.

Plainly Mundine didn't want a bar of a rematch with Geale and couldn't run fast enough to a smaller/lighter opponent in Medley, and for what gain??

...absolutely ZIP mate!

...oh, except for successfully ducking Geale of course!


What's your excuse for Mundine not fighting Geale again 20a87??

Had to shuffle this one back to the top of the pile as you seem to be having some trouble providing an answer (see also #341)

- still looking forward with baited breath to your answer baby!

[ashley]

:rofl:rofl:rofl You honestly think Pavlik gives a fly fuck about the IBO title ? He has much bigger things on his agenda than fighting a reletively unheared of fighter like Mundine,
Ash mate i know you are the self appointed Mundine spokesman on here but come on mate whoever is feeding you this so called info are probably laughing their bollocks off everytime you type mate as you are looking more and more foolish every day,
I respect you Ash but come on kid your here sometimes 18 hours a day singing & towing the Choc line ,
They are taking the piss out of you mate .Wise up Ash .



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I guess these guys from the states wrote this story so they can all LOL at me as well :D

And 18 hours a day......f@#$..... yeah that sounds about right...but I also talk about other fighters as well :yep

Josey....I dont make up the Mr 3 time stuff...I just say what I read in the papers.....I'm happy supporting Mundine and if all he ever does is top 5 to 10 in MW and SMW well I'm happy mate.....I have never said hes the world champ in the division

Most of the fighters I follow are not ranked higher than Mundine save Money Mayweather, Pac and Wlad.

I could name 20 fighters in AUST domestic level that I get excited about watching that you have never heard of....they have rankings from 20 to 500 in the world.

Your just lucky Joe C gave it away....Mundine was going to take him out :yep

[LeonMcS]

You wanted to know....and I was told not to say anything for 1 week :tong

'If this gets out I'm dead as they'll know who its come from.'

You've become the Keith Windschuttle of Australian boxing history. Well done.

[ashley]

'If this gets out I'm dead as they'll know who its come from.'

You've become the Keith Windschuttle of Australian boxing history. Well done.

Whats sent in PM's stays in PMs mate......thats the unwritten rule that everybody knows......apart from you by the looks :hey

Dont tell me your still sore that Mundine punched shit through your pin-up boy :lol:

Looks like the funny man can dish it out but cant take it :hi:

[LeonMcS]

Sorry, when did Mundine fight Julian Jackson, Khaosai Galaxy, Ricardo Lopez or Tommy Hearns?

Don't bullshit ash and try and swing things around when you've been caught lying.

But thanks for confirming it. Well done.

[ashley]

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A few more links to stories talking about Pavlik's next fight and Mentioning Mundine as a possibility.....all US papers :lol:

[ashley]

Sorry, when did Mundine fight Julian Jackson, Khaosai Galaxy, Ricardo Lopez or Tommy Hearns?

Don't bullshit ash and try and swing things around when you've been caught lying.

But thanks for confirming it. Well done.

What the f@#$ are you talking about now?

Geez just 1 mention of Mundine smashing Green and you go nuts :lol:

And whats the lying bit?

[IrnBruMan]

You must be the only guy on this forum that has not read the newspaper reports from Ohio. :rofl..you know Pavliks home town....I think stiffy found it...he posted it here for all to see...the article mentions Mundine as 1 of 3 fighters that top rank and Pavlik are considering for his April fight. :deal

If you think I have made this up your on drugs

Oh and I will tell you what’s sad.....having an obsessive hate toward someone.....that’s just unhealthy.

I have no problems admitting I'm a Mundine nut hugger......but I can also say I don’t hate anybody....well maybe the Storm and the Broncos :D

In regard to spare time.....I get a bit....I have a good job....I work on my laptop 75% of the time so it allows me to have ESB window open for most of the day.

Oh and apart from US papers talking about Mundine fighting I have better proof than that....but Like I said I don’t share it with haters :tong



Still can't back it up then, yeah?

A flimsy local rag article from Ohio mentioning Mundine as one of 3 possible opponents for Pavlik does not = Pavlik confirming he's considering Mundine as a potential oppoenent.

It's not so much thinking you've made it up, it's more a case of getting sick of you hanging everything on what a local rag said might happen.

Who's got an obsessive hate towards someone? I'm just fucking sick and tired of your one-dimensional repetitive, desperately-looking-for-a-silver-lining drivel about Mundine - maybe if you gave it a rest people would forget about him for a while, and then his next move may very well pleasantly surprise a few people. As it is, you're on here telling us every move he may make with a certainty that hints at you having inside info, only none of it ever actually happens. Then you try to make out it's all just a bit of a lark, and carry on with the same boring drivel.

So please understand that I take nothing you say seriously, because you carry on like an absolute arse-clown on here. I have my avatars switched off, but I'm sure one peek at your current avatar will back me up on that.

[JOSEY WALES]

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A few more links to stories talking about Pavlik's next fight and Mentioning Mundine as a possibility.....all US papers :lol:

Ash they also mentioned Rose ( An unheared of Light Middle from the Uk ) as well , it dosen't automatically stand that Rose's team were active in the pusuit of arranging a fight with Pavlik mate ,same as Mundine , show me some solid proof that Mundine's team were actively in pusuit of a Pavlik fight and i will belive you ,Its one thing claiming such for publicity reasons but another thing to actually lay down a concrete offer .

[LeonMcS]

What the f@#$ are you talking about now?

Try to keep up ash.


Dont tell me your still sore that Mundine punched shit through your pin-up boy

ergo

Sorry, when did Mundine fight Julian Jackson, Khaosai Galaxy, Ricardo Lopez or Tommy Hearns?

I'm not sure if you're playing dumb, are truly are dumb. Either way...

[IrnBruMan]

Man, I have no problem with people on the wind up for a laugh, it's just when it gets old from excessive overuse and is no longer funny, and ends up just being stupid fucking drivel for the sake of it.

That's when I start to wonder about what's behind it all.

[ashley]

Still can't back it up then, yeah?

A flimsy local rag article from Ohio mentioning Mundine as one of 3 possible opponents for Pavlik does not = Pavlik confirming he's considering Mundine as a potential oppoenent.

It's not so much thinking you've mad eit up, it's more a case of getting sick of you hanging everything on what a local rag said might happen.

Who's got an obsessive hate towards someone? I'm just fucking sick and tired of your one-dimensional repetitive, desperately-looking-for-a-silver-lining drivel about Mudnine - maybe if you gave it a rest people would forget about him for a while, and then his next move may very well pleasantly surprise a few people. As it is, you're on here telling us every move he may make with a certainty that hints at you having inside info, only none of it ever actually happens. Then you try to make out it's all just a bit of a lark, and carry on with the same boring drivel.

So please understand that I take nothing you say seriously, because you carry on like an absolute arse-clown on here. I have my avatars switched off, but I'm sure one peek at your current avatar will back me up on that.



Mate give it a rest...you asked for proof that Mundine is chasing Pavlik....the fact that US papers quote the same means its true.

Like you have all said Mundines not on Pavliks radar and its not far off the truth....however after trying several angles team Mundine did find a way to make the deal work.

Why would Pavlik even mention Mundine if I'm wrong....are you saying Pavliks dropping Mundine name on the world scene:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Whats your problem with me talking about Mundine anyway?......I have stopped mentioning Mundine in other threads so just dont read Mundine threads if you dont want to hear about him.

As far as the inside info goes so what....I get a few things about several fighters and I post it.....Im not in the industry......just a fan....I have been asked not to say things and I dont....but if its ok to say it I always blab it out :lol:

I dont make myself out to be anything but a mundine nut hugger so go to your Green thread and you wont see much of me unless Im talking about Green :hi:

[JOSEY WALES]

What angles did team Mundine use to make a fight between Mundine and Pavlik mature ? Ash .

[IrnBruMan]

Mate give it a rest...

That's rich, you asking someone to give it a rest.

you asked for proof that Mundine is chasing Pavlik....the fact that US papers quote the same means its true.

Incorrect. A journalist has mentioned Mundine's name. There is no confirmation in the article that Pavlik's people said Mundine was a potential opponent.

Like you have all said Mundines not on Pavliks radar and its not far off the truth....however after trying several angles team Mundine did find a way to make the deal work.

Prove it, or is this more inside mail you've got, like Mundine making 154lbs?

[pecks]

Ash, 18 months ago you would have seen Mundine's name mentioned in relation to being a possible opponent for Kessler.

[Sox]

I have my avatars switched off, but I'm sure one peek at your current avatar will back me up on that.
Oh no, you must see his latest, it's a work of art. :hey

[Sox]

You missed this one Ash, c'mon, this is fun. :nono


No I don't, but when this gets said for years, it's not all that hard to work out what's going on.
You know this anyway, but you want to cling on to something (his nuts) because you're a fan.

The rest of us are just realistic.

[balmain]

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?

[ashley]

InbruMan read the news story...are you saying the jurno made it up :rofl

Your hate has made you blind...and about 154...the IBO set up a title fight...how was I wrong about this :huh

Leon....still dont know what your talking about

If you guys are sick of Mundine talk dont post in Mundine threads :nut

I wont post about Mundine in any other threads :deal

Josey If you want to know I will PM you some details provided you dont send it to these haters or repost it on the forum :good

[pecks]

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?
You are wrong.

[LeonMcS]

Sorry, hes beat Green, Geale and who over the past few years?

[Sox]

You are wrong.
Tend to agree.

[ashley]

You missed this one Ash, c'mon, this is fun. :nono


No I don't, but when this gets said for years, it's not all that hard to work out what's going on.
You know this anyway, but you want to cling on to something (his nuts) because you're a fan.

The rest of us are just realistic.

I cant argue with any of that :D

[balmain]

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?

[ashley]

Sorry, hes beat Green, Geale and who over the past few years?

Its funny how you pick out 1 thing but miss the main point.....hes telling you that Khoder had advanced talks with Pavs manager.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?

It's good to receive info from close to the source Flash.

Having said that, it's all about the yellow bit highlighted above.

Some time ago Anthony worked out that unpopularity helps fill stadiums. The upside is the money. The downside is you don't end up popular. Pretty simple really.

When I was a kid in the early 70's Tony Mundine Snr was my favourite fighter, bar nobody!

I don't feel the same way about Anthony the boxer, and didn't respect his 'I'm bigger than the team' attitude as a footballer either.

[ashley]

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?

Mate...lots of Mundine fans here as well......please take these haters with a pinch of salt....we welcome guys with your experience so please hang around....keep up the good info :good

[Sox]

Its funny how you pick out 1 thing but miss the main point.....hes telling you that Khoder had advanced talks with Pavs manager.
But doesn't that just get back to what I said earlier -

........
Yeh but Ash, if your offer is only $1.50, then there may as well be no offer as it won't get taken seriously.

It's one thing to put in an offer to fight, however to offer an amount which you know will be refused, then it's not really a valid offer now is it.
.........

[ashley]

It's good to receive info from close to the source Flash....AGREE......HOWEVER INBRUMAN WILL WANT MORE PROOF :lol:

Having said that, it's all about the yellow bit highlighted above.

Some time ago Anthony worked out that unpopularity helps fill stadiums. The upside is the money. The downside is you don't end up popular. Pretty simple really....FAIR CALL

When I was a kid in the early 70's Tony Mundine Snr was my favourite fighter, bar nobody!....YOU OLD BASTARD :D

I don't feel the same way about Anthony the boxer, and didn't respect his 'I'm bigger than the team' attitude as a footballer either...FAIR CALL.

I hope he stays around....ESB can drive industry people away fairly quickly :-(

[LeonMcS]

Its funny how you pick out 1 thing but miss the main point.....

Unlike yourself eh?

[ashley]

But doesn't that just get back to what I said earlier -

........
Yeh but Ash, if your offer is only $1.50, then there may as well be no offer as it won't get taken seriously.

It's one thing to put in an offer to fight, however to offer an amount which you know will be refused, then it's not really a valid offer now is it.
.........

Why dont you ask Balmain if the price was right :hey

[ashley]

Unlike yourself eh?

I may have been guilty of this once or twice in the past :D






















Ok...all the time :rasta

[Sox]

Why dont you ask Balmain if the price was right :hey
And just what do you think he'll say? :patsch

[ashley]

And just what do you think he'll say? :patsch

What do you want mate......the contract offer?....how the f#$@ can anybody get that :D

End of the day Balmains past record speaks for itself :deal

If you cant listen to what hes saying then you wont get any better source than that :hi:

Lets just wait and see who choc is fighting next :rasta

[Sox]

What do you want mate......the contract offer?....how the f#$@ can anybody get that :D
You asked me if I wanted it, I never said I wanted anything from him.

End of the day Balmains past record speaks for itself :deal
It does? I don't even know who he is?

If you cant listen to what hes saying then you wont get any better source than that :hi:
The best source is living proof that whatever gets said, actually happens.

Lets just wait and see who choc is fighting next :rasta
Yep. And we know it won't be Pavlik.
...........

[ashley]

...........

.........

[goodnight]

But doesn't that just get back to what I said earlier -

........
Yeh but Ash, if your offer is only $1.50, then there may as well be no offer as it won't get taken seriously.

It's one thing to put in an offer to fight, however to offer an amount which you know will be refused, then it's not really a valid offer now is it.
.........

exactly,

my wife wanted a BMW. So I went and had advanced negotiations with BMW dealer. I made them an offer (half the price), but they are still ducking me and won't come to the party.

[ashley]

exactly,

my wife wanted a BMW. So I went and had advanced negotiations with BMW dealer. I made them an offer (half the price), but they are still ducking me and won't come to the party.

Sorry about your wifes car mate :D

[goodnight]

Sorry about your wifes car mate :D

ended up getting a sth american model much cheaper :hey

[ashley]

ended up getting a sth american model much cheaper :hey


:rofl:rofl:good

[20a87]

Still in total denial about how close Geale pushed your pin-up boy I see.

The comment above still holds ie Geale bought a title to the table the first meeting and seems to be expected by the Mundine camp to bring one every time.

Plainly Mundine didn't want a bar of a rematch with Geale and couldn't run fast enough to a smaller/lighter opponent in Medley, and for what gain??

...absolutely ZIP mate!

...oh, except for successfully ducking Geale of course!


What's your excuse for Mundine not fighting Geale again 20a87??

Look forward with baited breath to your answer baby!

He pushed him all right but "the man" pushed back and a new middleweight champion was the result, don't think I don't recognise the effort the young buck made when locking horns with the original aboriginal.

As for bringing titles, it's a fair ask mundine is the draw and he's "hungry" for belts. You've got to earn your shots at "the man".

He was looking to become a pioneer the IBO put the kibosh on it wba stepped up with a regional belt.

:rofl:rofl:rofl You honestly think Pavlik gives a fly fuck about the IBO title ? He has much bigger things on his agenda than fighting a reletively unheared of fighter like Mundine,
Ash mate i know you are the self appointed Mundine spokesman on here but come on mate whoever is feeding you this so called info are probably laughing their bollocks off everytime you type mate as you are looking more and more foolish every day,
I respect you Ash but come on kid your here sometimes 18 hours a day singing & towing the Choc line ,
They are taking the piss out of you mate .Wise up Ash .
Btw Ohio is Pavliks Home State , Youngstown is his home town .

Pervy phony, for something with no interest in mundine you sure type a lot on the topic. :lol: Spokesman for Pavlik now? :roll:

Man, I have no problem with people on the wind up for a laugh, it's just when it gets old from excessive overuse and is no longer funny, and ends up just being stupid fucking drivel for the sake of it.

That's when I start to wonder about what's behind it all.

CP is living proof (approx 11,000 posts of drivel), the thunderbirds had less strings than you.

I understand a lot of people here have a hate for Anthony. All of the haters state choc wont fight Pavlik. Well thats 100% wrong. Then when you are told Khoder had talks with Pavliks manager Cameron Dunkin but HBO decided to go with the Argentinian your comeback is prove it. He has beat Green, Geale and everybody else around here but instead of getting behind him everybody wants a rematch hoping he will have an off night. I know he sometimes says things people dont like to hear but thats him. His father never bad mouthed anyone but he received the same treatment from the Australian public. Tell me I am wrong?

They can't :deal

[Rise Above]

exactly,

my wife wanted a BMW. So I went and had advanced negotiations with BMW dealer. I made them an offer (half the price), but they are still ducking me and won't come to the party.


:lol::lol::lol:

Excellent analogy.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

He pushed him all right but "the man" pushed back and a new middleweight champion was the result, don't think I don't recognise the effort the young buck made when locking horns with the original aboriginal.

As for bringing titles, it's a fair ask mundine is the draw and he's "hungry" for belts. You've got to earn your shots at "the man".

He was looking to become a pioneer the IBO put the kibosh on it wba stepped up with a regional belt.

Danced around the questions again...more of the usual quality dribble.

[ashley]

CHB........The good news is next week choc will announce his next fight.....so will you be happy with a fighter inside the top 15 in the WBA?

[dominator]

One must say that Anthony Mundine's next fight announcement is highly anticipated given the 400 plus posts it's thread has received.

Then there will be 5 threads next week, either praising or more likely bagging the choice of opponent, whether he is Sturm or Falliga.

After a couple of weeks of low Mundine activity, we're back in full swing.

I know everyone loves it! :yep

[20a87]

Danced around the questions again...more of the usual quality dribble.

We must have argued about geale vs mundine 2 about six million times yet every 8 days you seem to pop up with the same questions and the real fans and insiders of boxing trot out the usual newspaper articles and insider info.

In something akin to the lion king's circle of life the argument repeats itself over and over whilst in real life boxing "the man" is vanquishing all of the pretenders that come to get a payday and a tall tale of how they could have beaten the man were it not for weight issues, tape issues, judge issues location issues etc.

[20a87]

One must say that Anthony Mundine's next fight announcement is highly anticipated given the 400 plus posts it's thread has received.

Then there will be 5 threads next week, either praising or more likely bagging the choice of opponent, whether he is Sturm or Falliga.

After a couple of weeks of low Mundine activity, we're back in full swing.

I know everyone loves it! :yep

No-one cares about mundine though :rofl

[teke]

...........It wont be Pavlik because he turned Mundine down flat :deal

[Chopper]

If this is made then......Very smart move from Mundine's team

Lyell is a good fighter ranked in the top 10 MW's in the USA and from Pavliks hometown. :thumbsup

I am looking forward to this one:pop

After a SD win over Duddy and being only 25 Lyell is coming into his prime. Hes had the big fights against some solid top 15 world MW's. :deal

Nobody can say this is a step back for Mundine can they?

Also with Mundine fighting Geale early next year then the winner of the contender looks like things are looking up for Mundine. :blah

well said m8, well said.

[Sydney Smutt]

:rofl:rofl:rofl You honestly think Pavlik gives a fly fuck about the IBO title ? He has much bigger things on his agenda than fighting a reletively unheared of fighter like Mundine,
Ash mate i know you are the self appointed Mundine spokesman on here but come on mate whoever is feeding you this so called info are probably laughing their bollocks off everytime you type mate as you are looking more and more foolish every day,
I respect you Ash but come on kid your here sometimes 18 hours a day singing & towing the Choc line ,
They are taking the piss out of you mate .Wise up Ash .
Btw Ohio is Pavliks Home State , Youngstown is his home town .

Actually leek-scoffer you are incorrect on one point. From a very good source:

Pavlik's manager and the president of the IBO have been close friends for nigh-on 30 years and they were interested in the title, it was the fact the Mundine had absolutely no name value in the US whatsoever. Mundine's camp did make an initial move to Pavlik, that I can confirm. What's happened since? Meh......

[Sydney Smutt]

CHB........The good news is next week choc will announce his next fight.....so will you be happy with a fighter inside the top 15 in the WBA?

Of course we will Ash, everybody knows the WBA's ratings are top-notch... so when is Falluga due in at #14 mate?
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Sydney Smutt]

I wish people (this means YOU 20-fuckstain) would not refer to Mundine as the original Aboriginal... He's hardly fucking Albert Namatjira now is he??

[ashley]

Of course we will Ash, everybody knows the WBA's ratings are top-notch... so when is Falluga due in at #14 mate?
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

What are you trying to say Dr Smutt?

I see Geale has popped in to number 14 :hey

[Sox]

It wont be Pavlik because he turned Mundine down flat :deal
Maybe had something to do with the $1.50 on offer from team Mandy..... :lol:

[Sox]

What are you trying to say Dr Smutt?

I see Geale has popped in to number 14 :hey
Can you see it? Over there..... I see it.....





It's a flying fucken pig. :lol::lol:

[ashley]

Can you see it? Over there..... I see it.....





It's a flying fucken pig. :lol::lol:


What...Geale is number 14 in the WBA 160?

[Sox]

What...Geale is number 14 in the WBA 160?
:patsch

[ashley]

:patsch

Ok Pigs fly in relation to what....

The WBA rating
Mundine V Geale
My :hey
Smutt is not a Doctor
You're coming down off acid trip from last night

[Sox]

Ok Pigs fly in relation to what....

The WBA rating
Mundine V Geale
My :hey
Smutt is not a Doctor
You're coming down off acid trip from last night
....

[ashley]

....

I didn’t say Mundine is or is not fighting Geale....all I said is Geale has popped in to the WBA ranking at # 14

So just to clear things up....just in case people are thinking (inbruman) that when I put :hey:yep or :D after my sentence I'm implying that I have inside info they would be wrong.

For the record we have all been told quite a few different options for choc.....I don’t know who he's fighting next :hey:yep:D

[Sydney Smutt]

Don't FFS go spreading it around that I am NOT a doctor, I have managed to get a lot of 19 year old girls naked with this line.....

[stiflers mum]

Sorry, when did Mundine fight Julian Jackson, Khaosai Galaxy, Ricardo Lopez or Tommy Hearns?

Don't bullshit ash and try and swing things around when you've been caught lying.

But thanks for confirming it. Well done.
you know your boxing history.did Hearns train at Kronk gym?the lesser USA Kronk Gym?

[LeonMcS]

Yes, I believe he trained out of the lesser Detroit franchise.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

We must have argued about geale vs mundine 2 about six million times yet every 8 days you seem to pop up with the same questions and the real fans and insiders of boxing trot out the usual newspaper articles and insider info.

In something akin to the lion king's circle of life the argument repeats itself over and over whilst in real life boxing "the man" is vanquishing all of the pretenders that come to get a payday and a tall tale of how they could have beaten the man were it not for weight issues, tape issues, judge issues location issues etc.

It is just like groundhog day mate.

There aint no good answer, today, tomorrow or next week.

Mundine just plain dogged it, and everyone from Geale down knows it.

[balmain]

Spoke to Billy Traecey and Graham Shaw last week. Billy said how he thought Daniel won against Choc and would love a rematch. I replied Daniel has nothing Choc wants. What I would do is put Daniel in a position to force a rematch. Choc is a WBA person so all The Grange team has to do is challenge and beat a top 5 WBA rated middleweight and he is back in. They agreed but never mentioned once about Choc dogging a fight. After all hes beat the best 2 fighters they have.

[balmain]

Spoke to Billy Traecey and Graham Shaw last week. Billy said how he thought Daniel won against Choc and would love a rematch. I replied Daniel has nothing Choc wants. What I would do is put Daniel in a position to force a rematch. Choc is a WBA person so all The Grange team has to do is challenge and beat a top 5 WBA rated middleweight and he is back in. They agreed but never mentioned once about Choc dogging a fight. After all hes beat the best 2 fighters they have.

[goodnight]

Choc is a WBA person so all The Grange team has to do is challenge and beat a top 5 WBA rated middleweight and he is back in.

something mundine won't do

[teke]

Maybe had something to do with the $1.50 on offer from team Mandy..... :lol:Ask the right questions to the right people and you will get the truth

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I respect your answer Flash, but it's all very well saying Geale has nothing Anthony wants. The fact is though it cost Anthony a 'world' title to avoid Geale!

As Goodnight said above, it seems Anthony expects Geale to do all the hard yards for him, whilst Anthony sits at home carefully playing it safe.

You said yourself you'd rather he stepped up and fought overseas fighters rather than sit around fighting locals.

Who bought the title to the table the first time these two met? - Geale.

There was oodles of public interest for the second bout. The organisation even ordered a re-match on the basis of the closeness of the first bout. Geale said himself on DSS' radio show that there was also a re-match clause in the original fight contract.

...but Anthony again decided to tread the well worn, easy path that leads nowhere.

...oh, and bin a 'world' title belt in the process.

[Sox]

Spoke to Billy Traecey and Graham Shaw last week. Billy said how he thought Daniel won against Choc and would love a rematch. I replied Daniel has nothing Choc wants.
More like Daniel has too much of what Mandy doesn't want. Fight.

What I would do is put Daniel in a position to force a rematch. Choc is a WBA person so all The Grange team has to do is challenge and beat a top 5 WBA rated middleweight and he is back in.
Which is part of the many reasons why Mandy is so unpopular.
Grange don't have to do anything, the ball is in Mandys court.

They agreed but never mentioned once about Choc dogging a fight. After all hes beat the best 2 fighters they have.
One fight was so close it demanded a rematch which hasn't happened.
The other fight was fought at a weight which was not originally agreed to.

Are you sure he hasn't dogged it?

[Sox]

Ask the right questions to the right people and you will get the truth
Yeh? I have my doubts.

[nomas]

Mundine vs geale will happen later in the year,but not for the ibo,wba baby go choc..

[stiflers mum]

Yes, I believe he trained out of the lesser Detroit franchise.
Hearns-Forsyth-McGowan Kronk Gyms the production line of legends.:happy

[ashley]

I respect your answer Flash, but it's all very well saying Geale has nothing Anthony wants. The fact is though it cost Anthony a 'world' title to avoid Geale!

As Goodnight said above, it seems Anthony expects Geale to do all the hard yards for him, whilst Anthony sits at home carefully playing it safe.

You said yourself you'd rather he stepped up and fought overseas fighters rather than sit around fighting locals.

Who bought the title to the table the first time these two met? - Geale.

There was oodles of public interest for the second bout. The organisation even ordered a re-match on the basis of the closeness of the first bout. Geale said himself on DSS' radio show that there was also a re-match clause in the original fight contract.

...but Anthony again decided to tread the well worn, easy path that leads nowhere.

...oh, and bin a 'world' title belt in the process.

Come on mate...you have made your point 10 times about the Geale rematch....I dont think anybody has a problem with what your saying.

I agree I thought it should have been a rematch and I agree it was very close fight...I had it 1 round up for choc or a draw.

Anyway I can also see why Khoder will wait as they have everything to lose and nothing to gain.....if you listen to Balmain its a fair point.

Geale got good skills mate...he will win the vacant IBO or maybe get a shot at Sylvester...time will come for the rematch mate.

If you keep making the same point people will start to think your a closet Geale nut hugger :D

[Sox]

Come on mate...you have made your point 10 times about the Geale rematch....I dont think anybody has a problem with what your saying.
I guess the point is made 10 times because you huggers continue to claim your boy is going to step up.
Stop deluding yourselves and we may stop.
What goes around comes around.

I agree I thought it should have been a rematch and I agree it was very close fight...I had it 1 round up for choc or a draw.
Everyone seems to agree on this, including Balmain, yet the same bullshit still gets spewed when the mandatory rematch gets mentioned.

Anyway I can also see why Khoder will wait as they have everything to lose and nothing to gain.....if you listen to Balmain its a fair point.
How can that possibly be a fair point?
Geale put everything on the line. Geale had much more to lose the Mandy. Geale had a unblemished record.

Does Mandy lack confidence? It's on record that Mandy has claimed he will 'whoop' Geale again. Yet where is it?

Sounds like Geale has much more balls than Mandy ever will.:deal

Geale got good skills mate...he will win the vacant IBO or maybe get a shot at Sylvester...time will come for the rematch mate.

I know Geale has good skills, and he will beat everyone put in front of him, including Mandy, not that it's likely to happen again.

If you keep making the same point people will start to think your a closet Geale nut hugger :DYou really believe that, c'mon Ash, you can do better than that.

[ashley]

Yes SOX i do think Geale has good skills...he will win more fights and bring a belt back to the table.

Who said boxing is fair?

Its ok for Mundine nut huggers making the same point...thats what huggers do....but for you...if you keep going on about Geale...people are going to think you're a closet hugger like CHB :yep

Oh wait on...you're already out of the closet :D

[Sox]

Yes SOX i do think Geale has good skills...he will win more fights and bring a belt back to the table.

Who said boxing is fair?

Its ok for Mundine nut huggers making the same point...thats what huggers do....but for you...if you keep going on about Geale...people are going to think you're a closet hugger like CHB :yep

Oh wait on...you're already out of the closet :D
No question I'm a Geale hugger, I always support people who are honest.
But I loathe dishonest loudmouthed frauds.

[ashley]

No question I'm a Geale hugger, I always support people who are honest.
But I loathe dishonest loudmouthed frauds.

Laugh it up while you can mate.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Come on mate...you have made your point 10 times about the Geale rematch....I dont think anybody has a problem with what your saying.

I agree I thought it should have been a rematch and I agree it was very close fight...I had it 1 round up for choc or a draw...

I agree it was done and dusted a while ago too Ash.

Only reason it surfaced again is our absolutely-chronic-Mundine-nut-hugger 'friend' 20a87 continues to live in denial about it!

If you read back a little in this particular thread you'll see quite clearly why the topic bubbled to the surface again.

As you, a long-time self confessed Mundine nut-hugger, seem to have managed to deal with the facts regarding Geale, surely it's high time 20a87 did as well.

[20a87]

I wish people (this means YOU 20-fuckstain) would not refer to Mundine as the original Aboriginal... He's hardly fucking Albert Namatjira now is he??

I can't recall saying anything of the sort.

It is just like groundhog day mate.

There aint no good answer, today, tomorrow or next week.

Mundine just plain dogged it, and everyone from Geale down knows it.

It seems you live in a perpetual "6 more weeks of winter", bill murray got it in the end, you will too one day.

Spoke to Billy Traecey and Graham Shaw last week. Billy said how he thought Daniel won against Choc and would love a rematch. I replied Daniel has nothing Choc wants. What I would do is put Daniel in a position to force a rematch. Choc is a WBA person so all The Grange team has to do is challenge and beat a top 5 WBA rated middleweight and he is back in. They agreed but never mentioned once about Choc dogging a fight. After all hes beat the best 2 fighters they have.

Speaks for itself.

I respect your answer Flash, but it's all very well saying Geale has nothing Anthony wants. The fact is though it cost Anthony a 'world' title to avoid Geale!

As Goodnight said above, it seems Anthony expects Geale to do all the hard yards for him, whilst Anthony sits at home carefully playing it safe.

You said yourself you'd rather he stepped up and fought overseas fighters rather than sit around fighting locals.

Who bought the title to the table the first time these two met? - Geale.

There was oodles of public interest for the second bout. The organisation even ordered a re-match on the basis of the closeness of the first bout. Geale said himself on DSS' radio show that there was also a re-match clause in the original fight contract.

...but Anthony again decided to tread the well worn, easy path that leads nowhere.

...oh, and bin a 'world' title belt in the process.

Mundine is the draw, he beat geale and took his belt. The rematch clause would have been if choc lost but he didn't so dry your eyes and when geale gets another belt i'm sure mundine will come to take it off his hands again.

More like Daniel has too much of what Mandy doesn't want. Fight.

Which is part of the many reasons why Mandy is so unpopular.
Grange don't have to do anything, the ball is in Mandys court.

One fight was so close it demanded a rematch which hasn't happened.
The other fight was fought at a weight which was not originally agreed to.

Are you sure he hasn't dogged it?

delusional

I agree it was done and dusted a while ago too Ash.

Only reason it surfaced again is our absolutely-chronic-Mundine-nut-hugger 'friend' 20a87 continues to live in denial about it!

If you read back a little in this particular thread you'll see quite clearly why the topic bubbled to the surface again.

As you, a long-time self confessed Mundine nut-hugger, seem to have managed to deal with the facts regarding Geale, surely it's high time 20a87 did as well.

You pick an angle on a topic and argue it to the hilt regardless of the fact it's wrong, mr 3 time didnt get his nickname by giving everyone a rematch, he takes belts. Geale will get a belt and try and fight mundine again because he understands he got beaten and he understands he's not the draw and he needs to fight mundine to have another payday :deal

[ipswich express]

A little birdy tells me that there's a decent fight up next for Mundine...

[20a87]

A little birdy tells me that there's a decent fight up next for Mundine...

All his fights are decent!

Who is his next victim?

[teke]

It is just like groundhog day mate.

There aint no good answer, today, tomorrow or next week.

Mundine just plain dogged it, and everyone from Geale down knows it.Mundine plain dogged it and went for Pavlik :deal

[JOELCORE]

Its preatty simple mundine was in the mix for the pavlick fight,they pushed for it,Hbo didnt think he had enough brand regocnition.If he beats martinez and paul williams keeps updating his facebook status rather the fight hopefully choc gets then fight he wants.They want it.

Choc ducked kessler.Yes ..........................But geale green and every other guy from 175 to 154 cant be fought at the same time.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I can't recall saying anything of the sort.

Seems your memory is both short and selective!

It seems you live in a perpetual "6 more weeks of winter", bill murray got it in the end, you will too one day.

The show depicts an arrogant and egotistical guy who discovers it's Groundhog Day again, and again, and again.

...now that's you to a T my nut-hugger 'friend'...in particular regarding your pin-up boy and Geale...hug on baby!

Mundine is the draw, he beat geale and took his belt. The rematch clause would have been if choc lost but he didn't so dry your eyes and when geale gets another belt i'm sure mundine will come to take it off his hands again.

Do you seriously believe the bit highlighted in green above??

Mundine was the challenger for Geale's title!!

You pick an angle on a topic and argue it to the hilt regardless of the fact it's wrong,

Even Ash conceeds on this one baby.

Just let in go!!

mr 3 time didnt get his nickname by giving everyone a rematch, he takes belts.

He has won a few paper belts along the way, and credit to him. Pity he can't manage to hold onto any of them though.

Geale will get a belt and try and fight mundine again because he understands he got beaten

He did, and narrowly, and I haven't contested that.

It's only that fools carry on with dillusional crap like 'gave him a whippin' etc - stuff they've heard somewhere on US television and thing it applies everywhere - even though the Geale v Mundine was that closely contested the judges struggled to split them.

and he understands he's not the draw and he needs to fight mundine to have another payday.

Fighting Mundine again would have and should have already resulted in another payday.

But we all know what happened. It's just that some of us are struggling to come to terms with the facts and choose instead to live in denial.

See comments inserted above.

[Sox]

The rematch clause would have been if choc lost

Yeh, and you know that how?
In any case, a rematch was ordered only a few months later because the next 3 judges gave the win to Geale.

You pick an angle on a topic and argue it to the hilt regardless of the fact it's wrong, mr 3 time didnt get his nickname by giving everyone a rematch, he takes belts. Geale will get a belt and try and fight mundine again because he understands he got beaten and he understands he's not the draw and he needs to fight mundine to have another payday :deal
So according to you it's ok for Mandy to only take fights for a payday, but not Geale?
Your argument is getting weaker by the minute, baby.

[Sox]

Mundine plain dogged it and went for Pavlik :deal
He sure did.
He cracked his piggy bank open and offered a whole $1.50. :good

[Sox]

Choc ducked kessler.Yes ..........................But geale green and every other guy from 175 to 154 cant be fought at the same time.
At the same time as what?
Geale was made Mandys mandatory, yet Mandy instead has had 2 farce fights since.
You really think he hasn't ducked Geale? :patsch

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

A little birdy tells me that there's a decent fight up next for Mundine...

Even us non-lovers hope so Ippy!

Aussie fight fans just want to see him step up and test himself like he's repeatedly told us he would - for years!

I'd like to see him beat a 'name'. I'd actually be in his corner.

It's just that when he fights chump like Falliga, you start to side with the rank underdog and hope they can somehow pull off an upset. That's really what you deserve when you decieve the public & yourself fighting patsy opponents.

[20a87]

See comments inserted above.

I'm making moves you don't comprehend.

It's a film not a show, and the 'prognosticator of all prognosticators' could make a better case than you when arguing the finer points of boxing.

The original aboriginal walked into the geale fight with no belt and left wearing "geale's belt" essentially becoming mr 3 time. Sugar Ray gives "the man" his props because he knows whats up. I daresay Mundine will be referred to as the 5th middleweight king in 20years.

Yeh, and you know that how?
In any case, a rematch was ordered only a few months later because the next 3 judges gave the win to Geale.

So according to you it's ok for Mandy to only take fights for a payday, but not Geale?
Your argument is getting weaker by the minute, baby.

I can't recall the ceremony giving geale the belt back and I don't think boxrec have changed the result. Honestly it's no more official than letting you be the judge of that fight :roll:

I've got no problem with geale getting paid, he knows if he wants a payday he has to earn it. He's not a draw like choc.

Even us non-lovers hope so Ippy!

Aussie fight fans just want to see him step up and test himself like he's repeatedly told us he would - for years!

I'd like to see him beat a 'name'. I'd actually be in his corner.

It's just that when he fights chump like Falliga, you start to side with the rank underdog and hope they can somehow pull off an upset. That's really what you deserve when you decieve the public & yourself fighting patsy opponents.

I would be more than happy to point you in the direction of a copy of the green fight, the geale fight, the taylor fight, the soliman trilogy etc etc

I don't think you would be allowed near a corner, they wouldn't want your mindless advice.

IBO Baby!!!!

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Not quite worthy of pathetic, 20a87.

When you grow up a bit you'll get a laugh at your own stupidity - save your post above and reminisce over it once you've matured a bit.

...live on in denial baby!

[20a87]

Not quite worthy of pathetic, 20a87.

When you grow up a bit you'll get a laugh at your own stupidity - save your post above and reminisce over it once you've matured a bit.

...live on in denial baby!

The whole debacle is here in pictures;
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

You might be able to understand this instead. I'm aware my written words only seem to perplex you and a couple of others.


To others: it's well worth a look as the slideshow is very good.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Your answers will only be found in maturity 20a87...

[ashley]

The whole debacle is here in pictures;
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

You might be able to understand this instead. I'm aware my written words only seem to perplex you and a couple of others.


To others: it's well worth a look as the slideshow is very good.


Very cool 20a87 :bowdown

[20a87]

Your answers will only be found in maturity 20a87...

Can't believe you thought this was a good retort :huh, you have to raise your game because at the moment I seem to be delivering a mundine vs green scale beating through the medium of the written word.

IBO baby!!!

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

The truth isn't always exciting 20a87...maturity will help you understand that.

[20a87]

Very cool 20a87 :bowdown

It's what I do.

But in all seriousness I was pleased when I came across it, nice behind the scenes look.

[Sox]

I can't recall the ceremony giving geale the belt back and I don't think boxrec have changed the result. Honestly it's no more official than letting you be the judge of that fight :roll:
So by your definition I'm able to order mandatory rematches between fighters. Cool.

Geez you're a fucken dope. :lol:

I've got no problem with geale getting paid, he knows if he wants a payday he has to earn it. He's not a draw like choc.
Oh that's right, Mandy, the huge draw who couldn't get Pavlik... :rofl:rofl

Your hole is getting deeper with every post.

[20a87]

So by your definition I'm able to order mandatory rematches between fighters. Cool.

Geez you're a fucken dope. :lol:

Oh that's right, Mandy, the huge draw who couldn't get Pavlik... :rofl:rofl

Your hole is getting deeper with every post.

I think you would struggle to order a burger :good

Mundine went out and wrestled the IBO middleweight championship of the world from Geale in an attempt to land "the ghost", Geale needs to put the work in to get something choc wants. Geale was a mere pawn in the pursuit of pavlik. The IBO belt was just "the man" baiting his hook. You are delusional if you think geale can stroll right into a shot at the man.

The only hole around here is the arsehole you choose to speak out of. I'm off to bed now so you have a few hours to construct something resembling a valid point whilst I retire to my rest quarters.

God Bless.

IBO Baby!!!

Kind Regards,

The much esteemed 20a87.

[stiflers mum]

A little birdy tells me that there's a decent fight up next for Mundine...
fuck a post that actually has something to do with the thread title.you couldnt tell us who this birdy said hes fighting could you IE?

[ashley]

fuck a post that actually has something to do with the thread title.you couldnt tell us who this birdy said hes fighting could you IE?


:pop:pop:pop

[teke]

He sure did.
He cracked his piggy bank open and offered a whole $1.50. :goodYoud be very surprised what actually happened

[JOELCORE]

At the same time as what?
Geale was made Mandys mandatory, yet Mandy instead has had 2 farce fights since.
You really think he hasn't ducked Geale? :patsch

True mundine should of rematched geale,cant deny that.

[IrnBruMan]

True mundine should of rematched geale,cant deny that.

hey JOELCORE are you that fat pasty little human beatbox cunt who Mundine fiddled with?

[ashley]

hey JOELCORE are you that fat pasty little human beatbox cunt who Mundine fiddled with?

Best ever welcome to a newbie :deal

Should pickup something at the end of year awards for that effort :lol:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Looks like Joel's initiation Ash.

Next it's the tar & feathers.

[Sox]

Youd be very surprised what actually happened
Spill ya guts and see if it surprises me.

[Sox]

I think you would struggle to order a burger :good

Just as much as you'd struggle to accept the order twiddle dick. ;)

Mundine went out and wrestled the IBO middleweight championship of the world from Geale in an attempt to land "the ghost",
You got that right, a ghost is all he'll ever fight. :lol:

Geale needs to put the work in to get something choc wants. Geale was a mere pawn in the pursuit of pavlik.
Ahuh. :patsch

The IBO belt was just "the man" baiting his hook. You are delusional if you think geale can stroll right into a shot at the man.
Yep, it's that difficult, we have Falliga, Pintos, Crazy Kim, Clavero, Nievas, Acosta, Chong Nee, and Matumla, all these huuuuge drawcards.

Your girl is scared.

The only hole around here is the arsehole you choose to speak out of. I'm off to bed now so you have a few hours to construct something resembling a valid point whilst I retire to my rest quarters.
It took around 30sec, which is still more than you're worth.

The slackjawed faggot, 20a87.Perfect. :good

See you tomorrow for another round of your tripe, sweet dreams.

[JOSEY WALES]

The guy is a tool sox ignore the pathetic WANKER mate .

[goodnight]

yep the forum is much better with ignore function

[Sox]

The guy is a tool sox ignore the pathetic WANKER mate .
Yeh I should, but I still find some pleasure in teasing the dope, he's so easily rattled. :yep

[ashley]

Yeh I should, but I still find some pleasure in teasing the dope, he's so easily rattled. :yep

Hey mate, is that your dog....and is the name SOX?

[ashley]

Well almost forgot......this is the big week for choc's fight announcement

I get the feeling that we are going to see quite a few interesting threads this week :lol:

[LeonMcS]

Definite improvement on the usual taxi cab confessions.

[Sox]

Hey mate, is that your dog....and is the name SOX?
Sox died about 5 years ago, was my best mate.....
Cobber is the bloke in the picture, he died late last year, another good mate.

Still have a small Blue Cattle X named Chopper and a German Shepherd named Diesel.
Chopper is another real clever dog, similar to Sox.

Will get another soon, once I'm over the loss of Cobber, had to put him to sleep. Very hard thing to do.

[ashley]

Sox died about 5 years ago, was my best mate.....
Cobber is the bloke in the picture, he died late last year, another good mate.

Still have a small Blue Cattle X named Chopper and a German Shepherd named Diesel.
Chopper is another real clever dog, similar to Sox.

Will get another soon, once I'm over the loss of Cobber, had to put him to sleep. Very hard thing to do.

Yeah I know...had to do the same as well...it sux

[20a87]

Just as much as you'd struggle to accept the order twiddle dick. ;)
You got that right, a ghost is all he'll ever fight. :lol:
Ahuh. :patsch
Yep, it's that difficult, we have Falliga, Pintos, Crazy Kim, Clavero, Nievas, Acosta, Chong Nee, and Matumla, all these huuuuge drawcards.

Your girl is scared.
It took around 30sec, which is still more than you're worth.
Perfect. :good

See you tomorrow for another round of your tripe, sweet dreams.

You have to remember i'm not you, I don't struggle with anything.
The ghost line you put is lame.
You had to come back and edit? write the post etc more than 30 secs methinks :patsch

I had a dream where you actually made a good post but it only showed me dreams don't come true.

The guy is a tool sox ignore the pathetic WANKER mate .

Pervy phony :hi:
I cannot believe you are posting in a mundine thread again, such a pillar of the local community, a six foot calzaghe insider who knows how to fight, such a pervy phony, such a fraud.

Is it true ****** is paying katsidis £36 million, I only ask because I know how he loves to make those big offers :patsch

Yeh I should, but I still find some pleasure in teasing the dope, he's so easily rattled. :yep

You couldn't rattle a rattle. I also don't think you should use words like pleasure when addressing pervy phony.

[JOELCORE]

No iam not that guy.Iam fat and pasty though.

Can someone please just drop the name of the guy choc is fighting for fucksake.

[ipswich express]

Nope, we love knowing more than you...

[ashley]

Nope, we love knowing more than you...

That's just cruel Ippy :lol:

Joelcore....its safe to say mate that in the next few days the name will be announced and the shit will hit the fan :deal

[ipswich express]

I'm just shit stirring, nothing more, nothing less. ;)

[LeonMcS]

Lets not get too carried away Ash. It is a definite improvement though.

[boxoncottonon]

The Pioneers "great big new fight", here or will he be packing his bags and purchasing a one way ticket to world domination?

[IrnBruMan]

No iam not that guy.Iam fat and pasty though.

Can someone please just drop the name of the guy choc is fighting for fucksake.

:lol:

[cedrichw]

Wont please many with the announcement and with garth on the undercard getting ready for his fight against choc at the end of the year I think this will cause a few here to not be too pleased. I look at it that Garth won the contender and deserves the fight good on choc for holding up his end of the bargain and giving him a shot

[ashley]

Lets not get too carried away Ash. It is a definite improvement though.

Your bluffing Leon....you don't know who he's fighting :bart

And Cedrichw...if the nut hugging mail bag express is right no chance anybody here could argue with Mundines next fight :deal

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Wont please many with the announcement and with garth on the undercard getting ready for his fight against choc at the end of the year I think this will cause a few here to not be too pleased. I look at it that Garth won the contender and deserves the fight good on choc for holding up his end of the bargain and giving him a shot

Agree 100% mate, he's fulfilled his part of the deal, but what will it prove though?

Yeah it'll make Wood some money. But the guy's had less than 30 rounds experience FFS (he can get a little more over the next 6 months or so)

Mundine's 2 months shy of 35, and the last thing he needs is more of the easy path that leads nowhere.

[ashley]

Agree 100% mate, he's fulfilled his part of the deal, but what will it prove though?

Yeah it'll make Wood some money. But the guy's had less than 30 rounds experience FFS (he can get a little more over the next 6 months or so)

Mundine's 2 months shy of 35, and the last thing he needs is more of the easy path that leads nowhere.

instead of calling choc "the man" or "the pioneer" he should be called "magic man".....because you never can tell what fight he will pull out of the hat next :yep

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Too early in the morning for that shite Ash!!

[ashley]

Too early in the morning for that shite Ash!!

What post are you talking about...my first, second or third :huh

[20a87]

instead of calling choc "the man" or "the pioneer" he should be called "magic man".....because you never can tell what fight he will pull out of the hat next :yep


Anthony mun-blaine?

[Sox]

What post are you talking about...my first, second or third :huh
All of em'. :hey

[goodnight]

because you never can tell what fight he will pull out of the hat next :yep

Khoders dick. :tong