Introducing: Pinoy Prospect Jonathan Taconing!!! [Archive]

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:35 AM

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Watch this new Flyweight Pinoy Prospect Jonathan Taconing. Only 2 wins, 2 1st rd KOs. This guy is quick & have a full arsenal of Punches already. His quickness & velocity of his left Punch reminds me of a young Pac but this guy got a lethal right hook already.

I've been watching Telefutura fight since 2004 & very few times I can find a Good & exciting Prospect there. This past few years Philippine boxing are producing very good & exciting Prospects, Notably Bautista, Banal, Concepcion, Glenn Gonzales & now this guy Taconing. Watchout for this guy he's something special.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 09:08 AM

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KayEpps

09-13-2007, 09:32 AM

I need to see a couple more of his upcoming fights before making the call of a Good Prospect. He never really hurt the guy he was fighting - but I guess the Ref. decided that 3 knock downs in the first round was enough. The guy got right back up after every knock down. After a couple more fights - and we see how he does after getting pass round 1 - then I'll make my judgement.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 09:37 AM

Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 10:32 AM

I'm not impressed.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 10:48 AM

I'm not impressed.

How about give me a video of a prospect that you are impressed of with just 2 fights in his resume???

Valero is already a Title Holder & 22-0 record but this guy shows more skills than Valero.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 11:13 AM

charlievint

09-13-2007, 12:38 PM

How about give me a video of a prospect that you are impressed of with just 2 fights in his resume???

Valero is already a Title Holder & 22-0 record but this guy shows more skills than Valero.

LOL...The kid doesn't show more skill than Valero Pac....he shows that he has ALOT of improvments to make but he looks promising. he shows he's relentless although very open to counter hooks and straight lefts or rights. And he show's that he has a good arsenal of punches.

But he throws very wide, he's pretty straight up when he fights and he doesn't use any angles to open up opportunities that are there. He doesn't utilize his Jab to set up his bombs and he leads with his head.

Like I said...it's only his second pro fight....you can't judge him and make such a sizeable claim that he has more skill than the current WBA champion Valero.

He can get better but he's not anywhere near the level of PAC or Valero at this point.

freddy-wak

09-13-2007, 12:47 PM

charlievint

09-13-2007, 01:42 PM

I don't know about Puerto Rico but Mexico shits all over the Philipines in boxing.

Mexico > pI always have and always will.

Mexico has a deeper history with boxing than the Philipines do. But we are seeing a lot of great talent coming out of the Philipines and giving Mexican fighters great competition....In the World cup there were great and even matches from both countries and the Philipines came out on top this time round. I'm sure there are MORE talented and skilled fighters out of Mexico but the Philipines are coming on strong and shouldn't be discarded so quickly as inferior.

charlievint

09-13-2007, 02:09 PM

That's true. PI Boxing is coming up and I have much love for darchinyan killer Nonito Donaire.

Jonathan Taconing seems decent but I think Giovanni Segura would beat him.

Gotta check Giovanni out! Any youtube footage on him?

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 02:15 PM

that guy in the red looks like your typical MMA/UFC fighter.:yep

He was Championship matterial before Proksa got to him:hey

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Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 02:16 PM

Proska is at the top of my prospect list, I just hope he has a chin to back up his other abilities.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 02:17 PM

Proska is at the top of my prospect list, I just hope he has a chin to back up his other abilities.

No room on the bandwagon.

I kicked everybody off.

So far so good with his chin.

Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 02:19 PM

No room on the bandwagon.

I kicked everybody off.

So far so good with his chin.

Ah, but I've been following him since one of you Polish fans showed me early last year. He looks promising, more so than most touted prospects, such as jokes like Andre Berto.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 02:22 PM

Ah, but I've been following him since one of you Polish fans showed me early last year. He looks promising, more so than most touted prospects, such as jokes like Andre Berto.

Twas me.

He is at 11-0 7ko's now.

Already ranked #34 by the WBC.

Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 02:37 PM

I like Berto but I think he's in for a rude awakening against Estrada.

Can't wait for that card.

Yes, Estrada is going to knock Berto out.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 05:21 PM

Yes, Estrada is going to knock Berto out.

Then I Take Berto By KO!!!

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 05:31 PM

Proksa....

4wtfctJzTQ4

I'm not that impressed. He's always open for counter left hook. Just decent speed & Power.

On Taconing I see he has special combination of speed & Power for a Flyweight. The only drawback is he's a short guy only 5'1". Hope he grows up a couple or more inches.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 05:45 PM

Sorry bro, there's only a 20 second footage of him on youtube given that he's just an up n coming prospect but you can check him out on Telefutura sometimes. The little guy is a knockout artist and is pretty highly regarded as a Mexican prospect.

Segura is good, I saw him many times at Telefutura. Power is good but his speed is just Normal.

But on excitement level, only Ponce de leon who I rated high on among Telefutura alumni. I thought Paez Jr could go Places but his chin let him down. Juanma also is Good but his speed & excitement level is a let down too. Now they're trying to Hype Abner Mares but I don't see anything he is Special of. He's ajust a decent Prospect.

Now on excitement level Philippine Boxing are way ahead of Telefutura or any Mexican Boxing shows.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 05:50 PM

I'm not that impressed. He's always open for counter left hook. Just decent speed & Power.

On Taconing I see he has special combination of speed & Power for a Flyweight. The only drawback is he's a short guy only 5'1". Hope he grows up a couple or more inches.

I guess he's just not Filipino enough for you.:lol:

Highly decorated amatuer he is nearly in the WBC top 30 after 11 fights.

Yeah he's no Bautista.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 06:17 PM

I guess he's just not Filipino enough for you.:lol:

Highly decorated amatuer he is nearly in the WBC top 30 after 11 fights.

Yeah he's no Bautista.

How about AJ Banal only 14 fights but already rated by Boxrec at #11. Is Proksa's opposition anywhere near AJ's quality of opponents?

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Ramshall1

09-13-2007, 06:20 PM

they better keep him away from Ponce Deleon. ;)

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 06:20 PM

I guess he's just not Filipino enough for you.:lol:

Highly decorated amatuer he is nearly in the WBC top 30 after 11 fights.

Yeah he's no Bautista.

Daym!!! you are so high on this Guy!!! He's fighting bums my friend!!!!

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PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 06:58 PM

Daym!!! you are so high on this Guy!!! He's fighting bums my friend!!!!

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The competition at Middle is much greater.

BOXREC rankings dont mean shit.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:02 PM

The competition at Middle is much greater.

BOXREC rankings dont mean shit.

Don't Cry:oops:

kg0208

09-13-2007, 07:04 PM

Don't Cry:oops:
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How do you like Boxrecs rankings now?

They are obviously quite erratic, don't you agree?

Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 07:08 PM

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How do you like Boxrecs rankings now?

They are obviously quite erratic, don't you agree?

I, for one, hate it. Calzaghe is a legit top 5 and Taylor is barely top 12.

On top of this, Mijares is a legit top 10, as is the highly underrated Ivan Calderon.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 07:09 PM

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How do you like Boxrecs rankings now?

They are obviously quite erratic, don't you agree?

He wont after seeing that.

"Oh my gosh Manny at #10 he should be sharing #1 with Floyd."

kg0208

09-13-2007, 07:10 PM

I, for one, hate it. Calzaghe is a legit top 5 and Taylor is barely top 12.

On top of this, Mijares is a legit top 10, as is the highly underrated Ivan Calderon.

Their rankings are horrible....just pointing out that some shouldn't be so quick to say certain things without looking at the big picture.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:11 PM

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How do you like Boxrecs rankings now?

They are obviously quite erratic, don't you agree?

Yup.. but we are talking about Proksa who fought mostly bums. Compare that to AJ Banal Record, this guy is a Nobody.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 07:11 PM

Yup.. but we are talking about Proksa who fought mostly bums. Compare that to AJ Banal Record, this guy is a Nobody.

Clearly not the point. You shouldn't call somebody a cry baby for telling the truth.

Amsterdam

09-13-2007, 07:13 PM

Yup.. but we are talking about Proksa who fought mostly bums. Compare that to AJ Banal Record, this guy is a Nobody.

AJ Banal will likely amount to as much as your china chinned Bautista.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 07:14 PM

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:36 PM

Yet you dont see Manny's many flaw's:patsch

"Manny has flaws but gets away with it because of his power"....Manny Steward, Pac-EM 3.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:38 PM

AJ Banal will likely amount to as much as your china chinned Bautista.

We know going in PDL fight that Bautista has a suspect Chin. How about I bet on every Banal fight & You take his opponent. 1 week off???

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 07:39 PM

"Manny has flaws but gets away with it because of his power"....Manny Steward, Pac-EM 3.

You are a fucking robot:lol:

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:46 PM

Their rankings are horrible....just pointing out that some shouldn't be so quick to say certain things without looking at the big picture.

I use Boxrec as source of Fighters information who they fought, What's the record of their opponents, How often they fight, etc. Some of you guys hype a fighter Then when I check their record all they fought are bums.

They rating are computer generated & favors the recently active fighters. After Pac KOed MAB again, watchout He's be #1 P4P again in their Ratings. Don't care much about their rating but you can't deny the accuracy of fighters record. Now tell me did Proksa fought tough opponents or Bums???

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:48 PM

You are a fucking robot:lol:

You can't beat me I'm a Robot!!!:bbb

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:49 PM

Clearly not the point. You shouldn't call somebody a cry baby for telling the truth.

So what's the point KG????

brooklyn1550

09-13-2007, 07:51 PM

PacDbest...off topic, but what is your opinion on AJ Banal? From what I hear, he is the most impressive Filipino prospect.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 07:54 PM

I use Boxrec as source of Fighters information who they fought, What's the record of their opponents, How often they fight, etc. Some of you guys hype a fighter Then when I check their record all they fought are bums.

They rating are computer generated & favors the recently active fighters. After Pac KOed MAB again, watchout He's be #1 P4P again in their Ratings. Don't care much about their rating but you can't deny the accuracy of fighters record. Now tell me did Proksa fought tough opponents or Bums???

Don't quote the rankings if you don't care about them. And when someone tells you they are bad after you quote them, don't call them a crybaby as though you think that poster is incorrect.

It looks like you were using the rankings until you realized how low they ranked Pacman P4P. Thats how it looks to everyone here (cept I am sure your buddies).

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:56 PM

PacDbest...off topic, but what is your opinion on AJ Banal? From what I hear, he is the most impressive Filipino prospect.

Yup, my # 1 Prospect.

brooklyn1550

09-13-2007, 07:57 PM

Yup, my # 1 Prospect.

Thanks:good I'll be looking out for him

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 07:59 PM

Don't quote the rankings if you don't care about them. And when someone tells you they are bad after you quote them, don't call them a crybaby as though you think that poster is incorrect.

It looks like you were using the rankings until you realized how low they ranked Pacman P4P. Thats how it looks to everyone here (cept I am sure your buddies).

Did Proksa fought Bums or Tough opponents??? Answer me KG!!! I want to prove boxrec usefullness.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:03 PM

Did Proksa fought Bums or Tough opponents??? Answer me KG!!! I want to prove boxrec usefullness.
Why would I answer you on that PacDbest....I don't care about that nor did I ever mention it. Talk to me about stuff I posted, not something someone else posted.

You want to prove Boxrec's usefullness, but not about anything I care about. Of course it's useful for looking up records and stuff. But it's rankings are not, and thats all I have commented on.

Don't ask me questions that have nothing to do with what I said.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:04 PM

Thanks:good I'll be looking out for him

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This is the 1st fight I saw Banal, He's fighting an equally undefeated Thai fighter. There are more fights there you can watch. All impressive wins.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:08 PM

Why would I answer you on that PacDbest....I don't care about that nor did I ever mention it. Talk to me about stuff I posted, not something someone else posted.

You want to prove Boxrec's usefullness, but not about anything I care about. Of course it's useful for looking up records and stuff. But it's rankings are not, and thats all I have commented on.

Don't ask me questions that have nothing to do with what I said.

I already said what I think about their rankings. Its a Robot computer generated rankings favors recently fought fighters.

I already OWNED you today & refuse to admit it.

Did Proksa fought Bums or Tough opponents!!! Answer this!!!

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:10 PM

I already said what I think about their rankings. Its a Robot computer generated rankings favors recently fought fighters.

I already OWNED you today & refuse to admit it.

Did Proksa fought Bums or Tough opponents!!! Answer this!!!
You owned me today? Sure. Where. Are you like that loser Bigtime and think that declaring yourself a winner makes you a winner?

Why are you asking me this question. I never mentioned that fighter at all.

You used the rankings, then said that you didn't care about them. Then why use them? See how I am asking you questions about something you ACTUALLY posted? You should try doing the same.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:11 PM

Thanks:good I'll be looking out for him

This my #2 Prospect, Bernabe concepcion

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kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:12 PM

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:15 PM

You owned me today? Sure.

Why are you asking me this question. I never mentioned that fighter at all.

You used the rankings, then said that you didn't care about them. Then why use them? See how I am asking you questions about something you ACTUALLY posted? You should try doing the same.

We're talking about Prospects here. You are OFF topic here & trying to Hijack this Thread again. Make your own topic about Boxrec rankings. This is about Pinoy Prospects. By the way who is your Fav Prospect that you are high on???

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:18 PM

We're talking about Prospects here. You are OFF topic here & trying to Hijack this Thread again. Make your own topic about Boxrec rankings. This is about Pinoy Prospects. By the way who is your Fav Prospect that you are high on???
I don't need to hijack your thread....don't make such an ignorant statement and you won't get called out on it. YOU mentioned the boxrec rankings...if you don't want to discuss it, don't bring it up. ANYTHING brought up in a thread is open for discussion. If you don't know that, then you need to learn what a public message board is. And if this is about Pinoy prospects, then tell that to the guys who are talking about other prospects who are NOT Pinoy. You never stay consistant.

No prospects I am high on. I am focused on establish fighters right now.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:18 PM

Tell you what PacD best....you get the same treatment as him. You keep declaring you own me? We can test that theory.....He turned down the debate. You want to take his place? Open public poll on who wins?

Old tactics. That's why I love it here than Pacland. There's more pachaters here & I'm happy to OWN a lot of them.

My Pinoy brothers, are you enjoying this???:yep :rofl :happy

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:20 PM

Old tactics. That's why I love it here than Pacland. There's more pachaters here & I'm happy to OWN a lot of them.

My Pinoy brothers, are you enjoying this???:yep :rofl :happy
So you won't do it? It's funny how guys like you are quick to say "owned" (which is childish as hell) but won't actually agree to see if anyone else thinks as highly of them as they do.

Everyone not Pinoy, and there are more of us than there are of you, thinks this is funny. But not the same way you do.

Pac hater....nope, I just don't like you much cuz you're arrogant and ignorant and talk down about other fighters who aren't your beloved Pinoy.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:23 PM

I don't need to hijack your thread....don't make such an ignorant statement and you won't get called out on it. YOU mentioned the boxrec rankings...if you don't want to discuss it, don't bring it up. ANYTHING brought up in a thread is open for discussion. If you don't know that, then you need to learn what a public message board is. And if this is about Pinoy prospects, then tell that to the guys who are talking about other prospects who are NOT Pinoy. You never stay consistant.

No prospects I am high on. I am focused on establish fighters right now.

Playing it safe again??? You don't pick underdogs, Don't pick any Prospect or afraid to be Owned???

What I bring is Proksa's record to prove a point that Banal has a better record. Then when I check Proksa he fought mostly bums. Then I make the other guy go away Crying. You came to the rescue & end up being Owned!!!!:hi:

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:27 PM

So you won't do it? It's funny how guys like you are quick to say "owned" (which is childish as hell) but won't actually agree to see if anyone else thinks as highly of them as they do.

Everyone not Pinoy, and there are more of us than there are of you, thinks this is funny. But not the same way you do.

Pac hater....nope, I just don't like you much cuz you're arrogant and ignorant and talk down about other fighters who aren't your beloved Pinoy.

I become arrogant if the guy in front of acts arrogant first. You've been an ass since the first time I post here KG. But I enjoy every moment of it.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:28 PM

Playing it safe again??? You don't pick underdogs, Don't pick any Prospect or afraid to be Owned???

What I bring is Proksa's record to prove a point that Banal has a better record. Then when I check Proksa he fought mostly bums. Then I make the other guy go away Crying. You came to the rescue & end up being Owned!!!!:hi:

Owned Owned Owned....Asked to prove it? No, Pinoy Power!!....right? I would kick your ass:deal

Sounds like a chicken to me.

When you're ready to stop hiding behind your own bravado, let me know.

I pick underdogs all the time....just cuz I don't relay them to you isn't really important.

Tell you what....Dawson will win his fight. What do you want to wager PacD?

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:29 PM

I became arrogant if the guy in front of acts arrogant first. You've been an ass since the first time I'm post here KG. But I enjoy every moment of it.

Nah, you were arrogant from jump calling me stupid for not believing in Pac.

You don't enjoy every minute...thats why you are always yelling and getting mad and saying the things you do. I make you angry. :deal

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:31 PM

PacDbest...off topic, but what is your opinion on AJ Banal? From what I hear, he is the most impressive Filipino prospect.

Here's another Prospect, Glenn Gonzales

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PacDbest

09-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Owned Owned Owned....Asked to prove it? No, Pinoy Power!!....right? I would kick your ass:deal

Sounds like a chicken to me.

When you're ready to stop hiding behind your own bravado, let me know.

I pick underdogs all the time....just cuz I don't relay them to you isn't really important.

Tell you what....Dawson will win his fight. What do you want to wager PacD?

Did I Blew your top??? You seems like Pissed OFF!!! Or sounds like Owned????

Name me the Big underdog you pick???

You pick Dawson coz he's the Heavy Favorite. What's the odds???
Week off bets 1 week off for me, 4 weeks off for you. How about that???

kg0208

09-13-2007, 08:50 PM

Did I Blew your top??? You seems like Pissed OFF!!! Or sounds like Owned????

Name me the Big underdog you pick???

You pick Dawson coz he's the Heavy Favorite. What's the odds???
Week off bets 1 week off for me, 4 weeks off for you. How about that???
I picked Dawson cuz he is the best LHW in the world and he has been on my p4p list since he beat Adamek. I don't pick underdogs if I don't think he will win....do you?

I picked Barrera to beat Hamed. I picked Hopkins to beat Trinidad, I picked Calzaghe to beat Lacy.

Nope not mad. But I am waiting for you to man up and take the challenge I offered. But I know you won't. You know you won't win. I don't tell you I own you....I never have had to say it.

1 week to 4 weeks? If you believe in your fighter so much, you will take the same punishment as I do if you lose.

PolishPummler

09-13-2007, 08:51 PM

Playing it safe again??? You don't pick underdogs, Don't pick any Prospect or afraid to be Owned???

What I bring is Proksa's record to prove a point that Banal has a better record. Then when I check Proksa he fought mostly bums. Then I make the other guy go away Crying. You came to the rescue & end up being Owned!!!!:hi:

:patsch

If you go back and read what you wrote i simply answered your question about the original fighter in this thread.

You asked to be shown another fighter that looks good at his second fight and i did.You had to go on and try and "1 up me" by bringing up somebody else.

It's not always a pissing contest!

Own is something you do to yourself thread after thread.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 09:13 PM

:patsch

If you go back and read what you wrote i simply answered your question about the original fighter in this thread.

You asked to be shown another fighter that looks good at his second fight and i did.You had to go on and try and "1 up me" by bringing up somebody else.

It's not always a pissing contest!

Own is something you do to yourself thread after thread.

Sorry man, I just carried away because of KG. I know you're like KG tha thread Hijacker.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 09:14 PM

Sorry man, I just carried away because of KG. I know you're like KG tha thread Hijacker.
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Cluck cluck

And now you have admitted I get under your skin.

On a side note, you should take a look at the Stickied thread at the top of the page on the ESB rankings and the constitution. You may enjoy the idea.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 09:15 PM

I picked Dawson cuz he is the best LHW in the world and he has been on my p4p list since he beat Adamek. I don't pick underdogs if I don't think he will win....do you?

I picked Barrera to beat Hamed. I picked Hopkins to beat Trinidad, I picked Calzaghe to beat Lacy.

Nope not mad. But I am waiting for you to man up and take the challenge I offered. But I know you won't. You know you won't win. I don't tell you I own you....I never have had to say it.

1 week to 4 weeks? If you believe in your fighter so much, you will take the same punishment as I do if you lose.

That's how betting goes. If it's a pickem fight it's ok to be 1 on 1 but this fight is not. If you are sure about Dawson why not take my bet.

PacDbest

09-13-2007, 09:17 PM

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Cluck cluck

And now you have admitted I get under your skin.

On a side note, you should take a look at the Stickied thread at the top of the page on the ESB rankings and the constitution. You may enjoy the idea.

I'm not interested.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 09:18 PM

That's how betting goes. If it's a pickem fight it's ok to be 1 on 1 but this fight is not. If you are sure about Dawson why not take my bet.

That's not how betting is done here on ESB and never has been.

Besides, you turned me down for an open debate, and now want to dictate terms on a bet? Please....if you are so sure, take the bet on even terms.

kg0208

09-13-2007, 09:18 PM

I'm not interested.
:good Did you even read it? You're not interested in presenting your rankings?

PacDbest

09-14-2007, 12:59 AM

:good Did you even read it? You're not interested in presenting your rankings?

How many Participated on that voting??? most members here have their own bandwagon, Own agenda, no time to read that long complicated Process like that. It will be no different than Rings, espn or any webste Rankings. Let me know if about 70% members participated & I might waste time reading that.

Look at the Nonito-Darchinyan Prediction thread, about more than 95% thought Darchinyan would win easy. Me & ESBoxer are the only openly pick Nonito to win. There's some bias on this forum. What if I invite half of the Pacland members to join the voting here??? I'm sure it will tiff the balance to all Pinoy Boxers. What's important is who actually won among fighters. That's how Rings rate fighters & I just stick to the ratings.

kg0208

09-14-2007, 01:03 AM

How many Participated on that voting??? most members here have their own bandwagon, Own agenda, no time to read that long complicated Process like that. It will be no different than Rings, espn or any webste Rankings. Let me know if about 70% members participated & I might waste time reading that.

Look at the Nonito-Darchinyan Prediction thread, about more than 95% thought Darchinyan would win easy. Me & ESBoxer are the only openly pick Nonito to win. There's some bias on this forum. What if I invite half of the Pacland members to join the voting here??? I'm sure it will tiff the balance to all Pinoy Boxers. What's important is who actually won among fighters. That's how Rings rate fighters & I just stick to the ratings.
No one has participated. Try reading the thread. There has been no voting.
We are electing a committee so it wouldn't tip the voting in any way...you can invite Pacland if you wish because it wouldn't do anything but guarantee a Pinoy on the panel. That may be a good thing as I am sure you want to be represented fairly.

Like I said, read it. And Ring was just bought by a promoter, thus the reason this idea was started. Their rankings may be compromised.

We will be rating on who actually won the fights....how else would we rank.

You don't want to join, cool. Just thought since you like to give rankings and prospects, you might be interested.

PacDbest

09-14-2007, 01:07 AM

No one has participated. Try reading the thread. There has been no voting.
We are electing a committee so it wouldn't tip the voting in any way...you can invite Pacland if you wish because it wouldn't do anything but guarantee a Pinoy on the panel. That may be a good thing as I am sure you want to be represented fairly.

Like I said, read it. And Ring was just bought by a promoter, thus the reason this idea was started. Their rankings may be compromised.

We will be rating on who actually won the fights....how else would we rank.

You don't want to join, cool. Just thought since you like to give rankings and prospects, you might be interested.

But we are just a minority among the Boxing world. And we are allowing such Moron as sush as allblack to Vote. Ring collects vote from their writers & Boxing personalities who is more credible than most members here.

kg0208

09-14-2007, 01:15 AM

But we are just a minority among the Boxing world. And we are allowing such Moron as sush as allblack to Vote. Ring collects vote from their writers & Boxing personalities who is more credible than most members here.

Its long and hard to explain but I will give it a go.

Basically there will be an open vote where you can nominate 2 posters to be on the original 24 member committee (it will expand later on)

Then the 24 members nominated will give their rankings for each weight class. Using a points system, 100 pts for a 1st place vote, 90 for second, and so on, fighters will be rated combining everyones rankings. Then we will rank them overall to form ESB's rankings.

So even if All Black who is one of the more biased people here voted, he could only nominate 2 people...and wouldn't effect the rankings at all because it is unlikely he would garner enough votes to get on the committee to do the rankings.

Thats the jist, but Lampley wrote up a great constitution which he is still revising which is more concise and may better explain it. Take a look.

kg0208

09-14-2007, 01:22 AM

This is when we go a bit far...two fights and hes a prospect...I was undefeated for four fights and Im a nobody

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

No respect at all Chimba!

mbandit

09-14-2007, 02:09 AM

stillafan

09-14-2007, 02:38 AM

PacDbest

09-14-2007, 02:50 AM

PacDbest

09-14-2007, 02:58 AM

did you say he only has 2 fights???

No one is impressive in only 2 fights!...tons of fighters start off beating early competition because they fight opponents with 2nd jobs at first.......wait til he build up more wins against better compe before the word prospect is even used
Taconing fought a Debuting fighter, He was 1-0 going in. so basically it's an even fight. But I don't based my observetion on his record but based it on what Skills, power & speed he's shown. I've seen Floyd 2nd fight & he struggled with a Bum lefty. Taconing is not even threathened & shows a Variety of punches already. And that after fight Show off he does makes him a Charismatic fighter.

puga_ni_nana

09-14-2007, 07:27 PM

Ah, yes another "pinoy prospect" just like Bautista,Jaca,Gorrez,Mayol,Viloria,Suico,Allanic,all exposed by mexicans.You are so blinded by your nuthugging of pinoy fighters,that it's pathetic.It's cool that you support your boxers,but damn you take it to another level.Man seriously how old are you?

yeah bautista, jaca, viloria and suico were exposed but not gorres. imo, gorres did beat montiel if not for viruet who slapped gorres of deductions without a single warning. talking of robbery at his own turf.

also mayol is still young and raw and could bounce from his loss. he got careless with solis.

bautista is also raw but his chin has some issue. if he can improve on his defense just like what luisito espinosa did, he can still be a champion.

kg0208

09-14-2007, 07:32 PM

yeah bautista, jaca, viloria and suico were exposed but not gorres. imo, gorres did beat montiel if not for viruet who slapped gorres of deductions without a single warning. talking of robbery at his own turf.

also mayol is still young and raw and could bounce from his loss. he got careless with solis.

bautista is also raw but his chin has some issue. if he can improve on his defense just like what luisito espinosa did, he can still be a champion.
Bautista also needs to work on an offensive arsenal that doesn't leave him so open to counters. Tighten it up a bit. His hooks are a little wide and needs to be shortened.

puga_ni_nana

09-14-2007, 07:43 PM

Bautista also needs to work on an offensive arsenal that doesn't leave him so open to counters. Tighten it up a bit. His hooks are a little wide and needs to be shortened.

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this is why he got clobbered by penalosa in sparring before the philippines-mexico cup and eventually him being exposed by de leon.

about de leon, man i was surprised with that straight. i am not aware that he has that because i find him clumsy with his wide shots during his penalosa match.

loui_ludwig

09-14-2007, 09:48 PM

His just beginning his boxing career. So don't overhype him.

mbandit

09-14-2007, 09:57 PM

yeah bautista, jaca, viloria and suico were exposed but not gorres. imo, gorres did beat montiel if not for viruet who slapped gorres of deductions without a single warning. talking of robbery at his own turf.

also mayol is still young and raw and could bounce from his loss. he got careless with solis.

bautista is also raw but his chin has some issue. if he can improve on his defense just like what luisito espinosa did, he can still be a champion.
Just to let you know if Viruet would have not taken those points away it would have still been a draw,and Montiel would have kept his title.But I'm not trying to disrepect your boxers,I guess I got carried away but I really admire and respect pinoy boxers.I think it's to early to tell if this guy has a good future though.