Nathan Cleverly

[UndisputedUK]

If you were Frank ****** and Nathan Cleverly (and making a couple of assumptions), do you think you would have enough money, clout and talent to rip a title from Woods, Erdei, Pascal or Campillo?
Or would you wait a year or two?

[ishy]

Apparently the plan is to fight Clinton Woods if he beats Cloud.

[Pottypete]

Sounds good.Would have liked him to fight woods even if he loses to cloud,but looks like woods is going to hang them up if he loses.

[Two Shakes]

I'm not sure Cleverley has matured properly yet,he may be fighting at cruiser by the time his body has filled out ?
I was very impressed by how he went about business in his last fight and if it were me i'd hold him back for another 12-18 months.

[nickythekid]

imo cleverly has more ambition than calzaghe did at same stage in career. i think he is developing wicked skills, just depends how durable he proves to be?

[Tony Bellew]

Time will tell BUT I don't think he'd beat Pascal no matter what!!

[nickythekid]

do you think he'll ever be an authentic world class operator, to me he improves with every fight but i understand hes had the opposition to make that possible. pascal never ever no way...?

[jonnytightlips]

If I were Cleverly I would wait another year or so to go for the title. Hes only what? 22 or 23? Whats the fuckin rush with him. Id try to get him a European title shot before Christmas and defend it a couple of times then take on a fringe world class opponent and then go for the title.

[Mazallan]

Ok I hate the lanky WELSH CUNT FACE but he is a great boxer and will hopefully be our next special world champion. Hopefully too he appears less of a twat on tv in future.

He should lean up doomestically then in Europe before going for world titles although really if he has the talent I hope he has then he could go up a division for more titles considering his size.

A fight with Woods should be made if Woods loses to Clown.

[nickythekid]

hes got quality...looking forward to seeing how his career pans out.

[Tony Bellew]

He has fast hands a good engine and is a decent body puncher.. Can he soak up a solid shot?? We are yet to see?? I personally think he's drawn into a fight far too easily but like I say we'll see just how good he is in the future, It's gonna be interesting to see how he fares against someone like say Courtney Fry provided Fry is given more than 3 weeks like Oakey was given, Cleverly is definitly European class BUT I just feel he's getting ahead of himself saying I'll take the world title off Clinton Woods if he beats Cloud?:-(?

I think you'll find out more about Cleverly when he fights a genuine puncher with a bit of skill and patience to go with it...

[Beeston Brawler]

That pretty much sums up my view on him so far.

He has done pretty much as well as can be expected given his level of oppo to date, but there are plenty of boxes to be ticked.

As usual with ****** fighters (sorry to drone on) there are a distinct lack of punchers on his record, and plenty of the guys so far could be labelled chinny, much like Brook in many ways.

Tick those boxes and move him along. Woods was competitive with Cloud by all accounts, cards of 116-112 x 3 suggest this, despite the fact that Clinton has slipped a little from the fighter that shredded Rico Hoye and split three fights with Glen Johnson, he'd still have too much at this stage.

I think he will make it to European level and be dominant, perhaps winning a world title if there is a weak champion. High end Euro/WBO is his level.

[JohnAkiBoa]

He is a Feather Fisted Bitch.

[kosaros]

According to ****** in today's paper, he is fighting Courtney Fry - another decent domestic operator. Hopefully after this he can push on to the European stage.

JohnAkiBoa, kindly STFU and get out of the Brit forum - I have never heard you say anything positive about a Brit.

[toffeejack]

Ok I hate the lanky WELSH CUNT FACE but he is a great boxer and will hopefully be our next special world champion. Hopefully too he appears less of a twat on tv in future.

He should lean up doomestically then in Europe before going for world titles although really if he has the talent I hope he has then he could go up a division for more titles considering his size.

A fight with Woods should be made if Woods loses to Clown.

Very classy you stupid cunt.

[RedDragonBoxing]

I know this is very unlikely and probably nigh impossbile but in order this is who I would like Cleverly to fight after Fry :

Juergen Braemer - European Light Heavyweight Champion / WBO Interim Light Heavyweight Champion

Hugo Hernan Garay - Former WBA Light Heavyweight Champion

Jeff Lacy - Former IBF/IBO Super Middleweight Champion

Clinton Woods - Former IBF Light Heavyweight Champion

Beibut Shumenov - Light Heavyweight prospect and World Title Challenger

Zsolt Erdei - WBO Light Heavyweight Champion

I think this is a pretty sensible path to a world title considering

[GPater11093]

I know this is very unlikely and probably nigh impossbile but in order this is who I would like Cleverly to fight after Fry :

Juergen Braemer - European Light Heavyweight Champion / WBO Interim Light Heavyweight Champion

Hugo Hernan Garay - Former WBA Light Heavyweight Champion

Jeff Lacy - Former IBF/IBO Super Middleweight Champion

Clinton Woods - Former IBF Light Heavyweight Champion

Beibut Shumenov - Light Heavyweight prospect and World Title Challenger

Zsolt Erdei - WBO Light Heavyweight Champion

I think this is a pretty sensible path to a world title considering

sensible?

Braehmar would probabl beat him through experiance and savvy not saying hes probbaly slightly better anyway, although Clev does have worl class talent IMO.

[RedDragonBoxing]

sensible?

Braehmar would probabl beat him through experiance and savvy not saying hes probbaly slightly better anyway, although Clev does have worl class talent IMO.

Well lets see cleverly in his next fight to see if hes worked on his flaws from his last fight. people keep saying he needs to fight for a euro title and braemers the title holder so why not?

Beside i looked up this Fry guy and it turns out he lost a UD to Tony Oakey so its most probably Cleverly is gonna walk through this guy

[Beeston Brawler]

Half of those will be done by the time Cleverly gets round to them.

I think he needs to face a decent puncher, then a guy with a rock solid chin before you can move him up to Euro level.

He has only had two fights (Oakey and McIntosh) at British level so far, having cleaned out area and Afrobum levels.

[GPater11093]

Well lets see cleverly in his next fight to see if hes worked on his flaws from his last fight. people keep saying he needs to fight for a euro title and braemers the title holder so why not?

Beside i looked up this Fry guy and it turns out he lost a UD to Tony Oakey so its most probably Cleverly is gonna walk through this guy

:patsch

you ever heard of watching fighters you see alot more than just there records.

[RedDragonBoxing]

:patsch

you ever heard of watching fighters you see alot more than just there records.

I know mate but still im just saying theres a high chance cleverly will take him down and especially as his promoters frank ****** I doubt hell have to go into deep waters

[GPater11093]

I know mate but still im just saying theres a high chance cleverly will take him down and especially as his promoters frank ****** I doubt hell have to go into deep waters

whats Frank ****** got to do with it this fight was ordered be the BBBofC

[Hooch]

Ok I hate the lanky WELSH CUNT FACE but he is a great boxer and will hopefully be our next special world champion. Hopefully too he appears less of a twat on tv in future.

He should lean up doomestically then in Europe before going for world titles although really if he has the talent I hope he has then he could go up a division for more titles considering his size.

A fight with Woods should be made if Woods loses to Clown.

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[kosaros]

Well lets see cleverly in his next fight to see if hes worked on his flaws from his last fight. people keep saying he needs to fight for a euro title and braemers the title holder so why not?

Beside i looked up this Fry guy and it turns out he lost a UD to Tony Oakey so its most probably Cleverly is gonna walk through this guy

Styles make fights.

Anyway, wasn't it just a 3 round fight in that prizefighter tourney against Oakey? You should not read too much into those fights IMO.

['Ben']

I really like Cleverly. I've only just been convinced of him but he can definitely be a world champion, I don't even know who they are at light heavy apart from Pascal with the WBC title and Cloud with the IBF.... which tells me they are just paper champions.

[RedDragonBoxing]

Fair nuf, didnt look much into them just had a quick peek at boxrec and i didnt know it was ordered by the bbboc, so meh anyways I think Cleverly would stand a good chance against those guys

[somerset]

I think the good thing about light-heavy is the amount of choice. Youve got brits, germans, eastern europeans, us fighters, pascal, south americans. All good, maybe none great.

Theres no need to fight Afrobums any more. Injuries permitting, Id like to think we will get to know how good our guys are soon...

[Mazallan]

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Why? He always comes across as a twat but it is mainly his smug git face. He is a very very good boxer though and probably a decent lad in person.



Very classy you stupid cunt.


Fuck off you thick cunt.

[Hooch]

[quote=Mazallan;4834236]Why? He always comes across as a twat but it is mainly his smug git face. He is a very very good boxer though and probably a decent lad in person.

You might not like his smug twat face or whatever you call it but the boy cant help being Welsh ;)

[Mazallan]

[quote=Mazallan;4834236]Why? He always comes across as a twat but it is mainly his smug git face. He is a very very good boxer though and probably a decent lad in person.

You might not like his smug twat face or whatever you call it but the boy cant help being Welsh ;)



Ha keep it quite but I am a little Welsh myself, I guess that is why people think I am a cunt sometimes.

Nothing really against the guy. He is probably 'really great' but his face is too smug for tv.

Hopefully his next good step up comes soon, we need another top class champ on these shores.