John Simpson Vs Rendall Munroe : Euro Super Bantamweight title in 2009???

[brown bomber]

Presuming that John puts in the performance required Vs Paul Truscott would anyone be interested in seeing Rendall meet a live challenge for the first time since Kiko Martinez? His Euro challengers have been shocking. Should Simpson go through with the move down this fight would make absolute sense.

Reigning Commonwealth Featherweight champion Vs Reigning Super Bantamweight European champion!!!

Who wins?

:good

[Mandanda]

I'm not sold on Rendall. He's a decent operator but i wouldn't go any further on him then that. I think his main attribute is his size and his long arms at that weight. With John he be fighting a similar sized guy used to fighting bigger men and with also championship experience and ambitions. I think he could beat Rendall he has the ability to do it i think Rendall goes a sleep during early rounds and i think if John got going he could take control of fight. It's a pick em but i'd fancy Simpson to nick it on a tight decision.

[PatrickP]

Simpson beats Munroe imo, this would be a good fight and the biggest test of Munroe's career to date.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think if Munroe could improve his punch technique (and therefore power) he could do better.

As he is, his main strengths are his awkwardness and strength, whilst an underrated asset is his ability to cover up well.

I was at the 2nd Martinez fight and whilst it wasn't captivating, I was impressed by the way he diffused the Spaniard and won pretty easily.

The most frustrating thing for me is that he doesn't look to force the issue enough - he ought to have got rid of Martinez around the 10th in the rematch, and also the tough African (Netty I think) should have been blown away in the first four rounds. That could be his downfall in future.

Perhaps there was a little bit of a kneejerk, he easily (despite the cards) beat Martinez in the first fight, straight after he iced Dunne - on short notice as well, that he was a potential future world beater.

I think he has been handled fairly well since then, though one of the challengers was awful, another pretty average.

I'd stick my neck out and say he can hang at world level, but won't be particularly successful against the very elite. He can toy with limited guys like Martinez and domestic level guys, but looking at the WBC top 10 (he is #2 I believe) I don't see many names that I would put money on to beat.

[BamBam]

Munroe needs to do something fairly sharpish if he wants to move up IMO. He's had a full four months off since his win against a very, very average Afrobum. If he wants to move up he needs to keep more active.

I believe purse bids for the mandatory Maladrottu fight aren't far away. That will be a tough test for him and one, if Maladrottu is even close to what he was, I think Munroe will struggle with.

It's time for him to make a move I feel. I think he only has one choice (if he has real ambition at world level) whatever way he goes and thats to fight Nishioka for the WBC strap. A win against Maladrottu would be a nice tune up for that. If he beats Maladrottu and goes back to Euro/Afrobum opponents then you'd have to question his desire.

Personally I do think he wants to go up and have a crack at the highest level. I just don't think he knows exactly what way he should be going about it. Thats where Maloney should be helping him out

[billy nelson]

i think john would be to big,strong and too good for rendall.

[brown bomber]

I think Munroes team realise he's in a very fortunate position to be holding one of the worlds most prestigious belts... I doubt they'll risk it.

[Beeston Brawler]

How do you think it would pan out, Jeff?

['Ben']

Yeah, why not?

[brown bomber]

How do you think it would pan out, Jeff?50-50.... but based on what I saw in Colne last week. Simpson on points.

[Beeston Brawler]

What did you see in Colne last week... you may have posted it before but I cannot recall.... sparring?

This one intrigues me actually, it never even crossed my mind until you posted the thread. Clearly Munroe isn't #2 in the world - courtesy of Don Jose Sillyman but as I have posted previously think he can hang at the top end, based upon his awkwardness, strength and durability.

Simpson has been ripped off a few times, but to his credit he has always come back strongly.

Both are pretty slow starters, Simpson was struggling with Truscott early, who is pretty slick but nowhere near as awkward as Munroe.... who himself seems to spend a little too much time sussing the opponent out for my liking.

Perhaps that was because he knew he was a class above his recent opposition and he was taking it easy, I don't know.

Stamina won't really play a part as both are generally very well conditioned.... whilst Munroe won't be bothered about a supposed strength advantage as he is probably the biggest 122lb'er going around, certainly in Europe.

Could Simpson make 122, without draining?

[DOM5153]

i think munroe would walk away with his hand raised after a close fight, i can see him being to slick and utilising his footspeed and movement to good affect

[TFFP]

Munroe by decision.

I really don't see what Simpson offers that Martinez didn't. It's pretty much the same styles clash. Except Martinez is a much harder puncher, Simpson is the better boxer, but essentially its a similar matchup.

It's not as if Simpson would enjoy a huge size advantage, Munroe is a beast. He's built like a light welter.

[DOM5153]

Munroe by decision.

I really don't see what Simpson offers that Martinez didn't. It's pretty much the same styles clash. Except Martinez is a much harder puncher, Simpson is the better boxer, but essentially its a similar matchup.

It's not as if Simpson would enjoy a huge size advantage, Munroe is a beast. He's built like a light welter.

its funny i weigh the exact same as munroe yet he looks way bigger than me lol

[Beeston Brawler]

I walked past him on my way to the car at the Moore vs Piccirillo fight, he is the same height as me, 5'7''/8ish, how he gets down to 122 is beyond me.

I'm probably a bad judge as I am seriously broad, but he LOOKED about 135-140ish, though he wasn't much slighter than I am, and it was only the week after, and by all accounts he is a good liver.

Strange!

[DOM5153]

I walked past him on my way to the car at the Moore vs Piccirillo fight, he is the same height as me, 5'7''/8ish, how he gets down to 122 is beyond me.

I'm probably a bad judge as I am seriously broad, but he LOOKED about 135-140ish, though he wasn't much slighter than I am, and it was only the week after, and by all accounts he is a good liver.

Strange!

5'9, 5'10 and quite leane (damn skinny) but he looks like a beast in the ring

[BoroBoxing1]

John Simpson has to get past Paul Truscott first :huh

[billy nelson]

were not thinking past truscott just yet,like i say wait and see the improvement in john! the he can go for bigger fish!

[BoroBoxing1]

You obviously are Simpson said himself he chasing a fight with Steven Bell and you have posted this thread about him fighting Munroe, definetly thinkin past Truscott if you ask me.

[Beeston Brawler]

Steven Bell is just a Frank ****** stooge, who has wasted his career.

Simpson easily in that one :good

[BigEars]

I think if Simpson could make the weight without any ill effects then he would decision Munroe.

Munroe is absolutely huge at the weight, that's his main strength. He likes to sap guys energy and wear them down by leaning on them and pushing on them against the ropes, kind of like a Super-Bantamweight Matt Skelton.

Simpson however coming down from Featherweight shouldn't have a problem with the size and I think he's a more skillful boxer, I could see him outboxing Munroe and winning a 116-112 type decision.

John could be a very dominant European champion if he could make Super-Bantamweight without being drained too much.

[brown bomber]

Steven Bell is just a Frank ****** stooge, who has wasted his career.

Simpson easily in that one :goodBell is actually one of the most talented fighters in the UK at any weight. But your right his career has been managed in such a poor fashion its been largely wasted. If anyone should leave Sports Network and go to Hatton its that guy. Not sure of his circumstances though- maybe he's happy that way.

[Beeston Brawler]

He has written a few pieces in Boxing Monthly about various things, and in each of them he constantly goes on about how amazing ****** is, it's cringeworthy.

In one of them he said that Billy Graham did him no favours, and that he is adamant that he and Paul Smith made the right call in sticking with SN and leaving the gym.

****** has done what for them exactly?

Smith has probably the most padded record in British boxing, and Bell is nearly 35 and has beaten hardly anybody of note.

I totally agree with your post yesterday, regarding the promotion of fighters, giving them recognisable faces etc, rather than just the usual 'Fighter A will appear in an eight round international fight on the undercard of Khan vs A. Featherfist'

[brown bomber]

He has written a few pieces in Boxing Monthly about various things, and in each of them he constantly goes on about how amazing ****** is, it's cringeworthy.

In one of them he said that Billy Graham did him no favours, and that he is adamant that he and Paul Smith made the right call in sticking with SN and leaving the gym.

****** has done what for them exactly?

Smith has probably the most padded record in British boxing, and Bell is nearly 35 and has beaten hardly anybody of note.

I totally agree with your post yesterday, regarding the promotion of fighters, giving them recognisable faces etc, rather than just the usual 'Fighter A will appear in an eight round international fight on the undercard of Khan vs A. Featherfist'Yep.... fighters need identities. US boxing has embraced this idea and now we get 24/7 programs which just happen to be shot superbly but in the UK the budget doesn't seem to strch to a quick triper to a fighters home to see how he lives etc.

Look at X factor- the decent singers get a bit of a back story and suddenly they get a following. People identify with stuff like that. This is a promoters job and should not be down to the fans to suggest these kind of things. I loved boxing in the 90's because I read every little tiny piece of info about everyone..... If Derek Roche was fighting Micheal Carruth I cared because I knew all about both fighters. It seeems now there is a lot less 'promoting' going on and a lot more complaining....

[victorhugo4222]

50-50.... but based on what I saw in Colne last week. Simpson on points.

So what did you see in colne jeff??

John wins UD IMO.

[mryeags]

Munroe is the smartest British based boxer ... he has several gameplans and executes them to perfection at times aka both Martinez fights .... Simpson would run out of ideas and fade down the track ... Munroe a UD !

[victorhugo4222]

Munroe is the smartest British based boxer ... he has several gameplans and executes them to perfection at times aka both Martinez fights .... Simpson would run out of ideas and fade down the track ... Munroe a UD !

When munroe lost to andy morris albeit it a very close fight and at FW not SBW he didnt look to have several gameplans. You cant say as munroe lost to morris and john destroy morris the same would happen but i just think John would have too much for munroe he would wear him down witht hose cracking body shots and take control the latter part of the fight IMO.

[GladiatoR]

Shame Munroe doesn't have more power.

[DOM5153]

Shame Munroe doesn't have more power.

i think hes got enough dig to get respect and hes a good bodypuncher but yeah he doesnt posses huge power:good