Dont Fight Hatton On The Inside!!pbf Is The Man

[tills9191]

DONT fight HATTOn on the inside.. the way to beat this guy is on the outside, just keep him away with the jab, and he'll have no chance of beating any decent fighter, he only fights on the inside and thats all he knows...

FFS when are boxers going to learn that ????

He's gone once you fight him from a distance.... I think PBF will definitely do that.. and will OUTBOX HIM!

[Danny Ocean]

its not about when are they goin to learn its about when he fights people with the ability to do it

like collazo who did have that ability and imo did beat him

[Strike]

just keep him away with the jab, and he'll have no chance of beating any decent fighter

:lol::lol:

[TroubleLurks]

"No chance of beating any decent fighter"? Are you insane? Hatton makes his own distance. A jab alone will not keep him off you. The only way to keep Hatton off you is to run away, Spinks style, Dirrell style, and pot shot the whole fight. You call it "outboxing him", I would call it "running away like a pussy."

[Executioner]

:lol::lol:


I thought it was funny too :yep

[sarah ross]

Do you honestly think the 43 guys who fought Hatton don't know to keep him

away from them. Hatton is an absolute beast at 140, he just walks through

all of his opponents and destroys them. Elite fighters at 147 are much bigger

and present more problems because Ricky is only 5' 6" with a 20" arm length.

Pretty Boy is another story though, he basically a 140 lb fighter who Hatton

can walk through and use his custom attack on. Floyd knows he will have to

go to war with Hatton, that is why they will never fight. Mayweather had

big problems with the physical Castillio, Hatton is like Castillio on pcp.

[Relentless]

Do you honestly think the 43 guys who fought Hatton don't know to keep him

away from them. Hatton is an absolute beast at 140, he just walks through

all of his opponents and destroys them. Elite fighters at 147 are much bigger

and present more problems because Ricky is only 5' 6" with a 20" arm length.

Pretty Boy is another story though, he basically a 140 lb fighter who Hatton

can walk through and use his custom attack on. Floyd knows he will have to

go to war with Hatton, that is why they will never fight. Mayweather had

big problems with the physical Castillio, Hatton is like Castillio on pcp.

:lol:

[Loggo]

its not about when are they goin to learn its about when he fights people with the ability to do it

like collazo who did have that ability and imo did beat himWell Collazo didn`t beat him .Collazo ran like a scared rabbit for most of that fight.The judges scored it a win for Hatton and it was right imo.Collazo was down in the first from Hatton left and at the end of the fight the punch stats proved he landed the most shots.

[MoneyPunch]

Kostya Tszyu showed how you beat Hatton, during the middle rounds of their fight. Its by letting Hatton lunge in, and catch him on the way in
Kostya just couldnt keep it up, and never could fight well going backwards.
There are reasons Castillo was chosen, and its because Hatton is considerably faster, and so would get off first, Castillo has a reputaion as a warrior but was very shopworn.

Mayweather is miles too good to get beaten by Hatton, and Cotto would be too.
Dont go overboard on the strength of 1 punch against a guy whos best days are clearly behind him

[justaboxingfan]

Thats right Tills, PBF is the man. If a guy like Collazo gave Hatton fits, the P4P champ would make him look amatuerish, no doubt about it. Then again, hatton wouldn't risk this fight with Floyd.

[achillesthegreat]

I hate these moronic one step plan to beating elite fighters. Jab and move :lol:

Do you not think Kostya Tszyu spent a whole fight trying this and failing. He even admitted after the fight he couldn't get his jab off, nor could he find distance for his right.

[Arthur]

I hate these moronic one step plan to beating elite fighters. Jab and move :lol:

Do you not think Kostya Tszyu spent a whole fight trying this and failing. He even admitted after the fight he couldn't get his jab off, nor could he find distance for his right.



yeah really! WHo knew it was that easy -just jab and move :D

A genius at home has figured this out when Tszyu, Tackie, Collazo, Castillo etc couldn't LOL :D :D

[acb]

I hate these moronic one step plan to beating elite fighters. Jab and move :lol:


This kind of talk is usually reserved for people who have never fought. I sparred a guy a couple of weeks ago, I have better skills and a better jab than him, but the guy was a complete animal. He just ate my jabs and came forward all day. Jabs, right hands, nothing would discourage the guy.

You can plan to jab and move around a guy like Hatton, but it doesnt mean its going to work. Its about his heart, his conditioning, his ability to take a shot, and the punishment he makes you absorb on the inside.

[MoneyPunch]

I hate these moronic one step plan to beating elite fighters. Jab and move :lol:

Do you not think Kostya Tszyu spent a whole fight trying this and failing. He even admitted after the fight he couldn't get his jab off, nor could he find distance for his right.

He'd fought 6, one side rounds in 2 or 3 years, and was 35 years old!
Kostya was chosen because he was injury prone, been inactive, yet was still recognised as the man.

Go watch the middle rounds of the fight, see who was landing cleaner, and controlling distance, when not a wrestling match, then tell me Mayweather couldnt do that for 12 rounds.

Cotto is bigger, better and stronger.

[Alo2006]

Do you honestly think the 43 guys who fought Hatton don't know to keep him

away from them. Hatton is an absolute beast at 140, he just walks through

all of his opponents and destroys them. Elite fighters at 147 are much bigger

and present more problems because Ricky is only 5' 6" with a 20" arm length.

Pretty Boy is another story though, he basically a 140 lb fighter who Hatton

can walk through and use his custom attack on. Floyd knows he will have to

go to war with Hatton, that is why they will never fight. Mayweather had

big problems with the physical Castillio, Hatton is like Castillio on pcp.

So with this being said, u think Hatton is better than a prime Castillo? :huh

[Alo2006]

I hate these moronic one step plan to beating elite fighters. Jab and move :lol:

Do you not think Kostya Tszyu spent a whole fight trying this and failing. He even admitted after the fight he couldn't get his jab off, nor could he find distance for his right.

How could he find his jab when he's being wrestled :lol:

[achillesthegreat]

How could he find his jab when he's being wrestled :lol:
Didn't you know all he had to do was jab and step back or left. That's ALL he had to do.

[achillesthegreat]

He'd fought 6, one side rounds in 2 or 3 years, and was 35 years old!
Kostya was chosen because he was injury prone, been inactive, yet was still recognised as the man.

Go watch the middle rounds of the fight, see who was landing cleaner, and controlling distance, when not a wrestling match, then tell me Mayweather couldnt do that for 12 rounds.

Cotto is bigger, better and stronger.
You've brought this whooping upon yourself. You've made your bed now you must sleep in it.

This isn't about Mayweather or Cotto. I love it when people say moronic things like this. There is always somebody out there that you will get with. He'll beat Floyd and Cotto and you'll come up with stupid shit like - he couldn't do this to Paul Williams. You'll always find someone to hide behind. What would happen with Mayweather and Cotto is an OPINION. What happened with Tszyu and Castillo is FACT.

Now let's talk about Tszyu.

Tszyu had fought 7 months earlier against the consensus number 1 140 pounder. Take into consideration Tszyu has 14 week training camps so is ready in every shape and form.

Prior to that he hadn't fought in about 20 months BUT had trained to fight Mitchell about 3 or 4 times! Each time he'd been in camp for many months. So he had the training camps without the wear and tear of any fights.

You can't complain about sharpness because his timing, range, accuracy was spot on and brutal against a slick, fast, southpaw in Mitchell.

The intensity in which Tszyu managed to fight Hatton with is even more proof that he wasn't finished as a fighter.

The anti-Hatton argument via the Kostya Tszyu fight is manure at best.

[MoneyPunch]

You've brought this whooping upon yourself. You've made your bed now you must sleep in it.

This isn't about Mayweather or Cotto. I love it when people say moronic things like this. There is always somebody out there that you will get with. He'll beat Floyd and Cotto and you'll come up with stupid shit like - he couldn't do this to Paul Williams. You'll always find someone to hide behind. What would happen with Mayweather and Cotto is an OPINION. What happened with Tszyu and Castillo is FACT.

Now let's talk about Tszyu.

Tszyu had fought 7 months earlier against the consensus number 1 140 pounder. Take into consideration Tszyu has 14 week training camps so is ready in every shape and form.

Prior to that he hadn't fought in about 20 months BUT had trained to fight Mitchell about 3 or 4 times! Each time he'd been in camp for many months. So he had the training camps without the wear and tear of any fights.

You can't complain about sharpness because his timing, range, accuracy was spot on and brutal against a slick, fast, southpaw in Mitchell.

The intensity in which Tszyu managed to fight Hatton with is even more proof that he wasn't finished as a fighter.

The anti-Hatton argument via the Kostya Tszyu fight is manure at best.

What the fuck are you going on about, brought what upon myself?
Sharba Mitchell was gone before he fought Kostya, had knee problems, and was scared.
Watch the fight.
Then next, if you read my opening post, I said that Tszyu showed how to beat Hatton, and thats making him lunge is, and countering him.
Tszyu was excellent in the middle rounds, but just didnt have any gas left.
14 week training camps are all good and well, but it doesnt hide the fact, tht training must be consistent to be optimum, and Tszyus hadnt been as he was injury prone.

De La Hoya had a 14 week camp, many fighters do, but if you are inactive for spells before or between these, youll gas, thats FACT.

My reference to Mayweather was that he is brilliant at measuring distance, is very, very accurate, and doesnt gas.
Kostya showed this as the way to beat Hatton, just didnt have enough left at that stage of his career to pull it off, Mayweather has that.

I think Hatton is a very good fighter, I just think that against the very best, he'll get beaten, and that was my point.

[achillesthegreat]

What the fuck are you going on about, brought what upon myself?
Sharba Mitchell was gone before he fought Kostya, had knee problems, and was scared.
Watch the fight.
Then next, if you read my opening post, I said that Tszyu showed how to beat Hatton, and thats making him lunge is, and countering him.
Tszyu was excellent in the middle rounds, but just didnt have any gas left.
14 week training camps are all good and well, but it doesnt hide the fact, tht training must be consistent to be optimum, and Tszyus hadnt been as he was injury prone.

De La Hoya had a 14 week camp, many fighters do, but if you are inactive for spells before or between these, youll gas, thats FACT.

My reference to Mayweather was that he is brilliant at measuring distance, is very, very accurate, and doesnt gas.
Kostya showed this as the way to beat Hatton, just didnt have enough left at that stage of his career to pull it off, Mayweather has that.

I think Hatton is a very good fighter, I just think that against the very best, he'll get beaten, and that was my point.
Oh shut up with your whining. Mitchell was the consensus number 1. Don't try and change history with your hindsight bullshit.

Tszyu himself said that Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu.

Tszyu never gassed, he quit. Plus he was facing arguably the fittest fighter in the game. Did he gas when he lost the early rounds!

It isn't a fact because Tszyu showed great stamina. He has NEVER shown that sort of stamina. Don't act like Tszyus ever been a stamina freak.

Mayweathers the best boxer in the world. What moron isn't going to agree he'll give Hatton fits. However that argument can be countered based on what DLH and Castillo achieved against him. Both Floyd and Hatton will want to fight their fight. Who knows who will be able to do it more. Neither of us do. We do KNOW that Hatton beat a great 135 and 140 pounder.

The consensus on ESB is that Castillo is a top 30 lightweight and Tszyu a top 10 light welterweight. That speaks for itself. Come out with all your excuses but that's the truth.

You all make out like Hatton is God. How come Hatton KNOWS that Castillo and Tszyu are old shot and there for the taking when 99% of ESB didn't know Tszyu was pre fight and 50% didn't know Castillo wasn't pre fight? He must be a prophet.

This is the sort of moronic shit people say about Leonard. He knew Benitez, Duran II, Hearns and Hagler were there for the taking. Sort it out and give a fighter his dues.

[dwilson]

WHY ALL THE FUSS OVER PBF?

Yes he's a great fighter but he's far from invincable. He should have against castillo first time and has come close on other occaisions. His recent wins were good but against very wisely selected fighters- boldomir anyone? Plus he only managed a split decision against a shot de la hoya who was very slow, could not throw many consecutive punches and gave pbf te last half a dosen rounds on the grounds of him being fucked and pbf still did not knock him out.

Pbf would prob win at 147 because he is good and a qiuck runner but in the lions den of 140 it could be very different outcome.

Cotto v hatton would be great and i would give cotto the win at 147 but hatton should not be dismissed.

[ron u.k.]

How could he find his jab when he's being wrestled :lol:castillo did most of the holding.watch the fight.

[ron u.k.]

Oh shut up with your whining. Mitchell was the consensus number 1. Don't try and change history with your hindsight bullshit.

Tszyu himself said that Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu.

Tszyu never gassed, he quit. Plus he was facing arguably the fittest fighter in the game. Did he gas when he lost the early rounds!

It isn't a fact because Tszyu showed great stamina. He has NEVER shown that sort of stamina. Don't act like Tszyus ever been a stamina freak.

Mayweathers the best boxer in the world. What moron isn't going to agree he'll give Hatton fits. However that argument can be countered based on what DLH and Castillo achieved against him. Both Floyd and Hatton will want to fight their fight. Who knows who will be able to do it more. Neither of us do. We do KNOW that Hatton beat a great 135 and 140 pounder.

The consensus on ESB is that Castillo is a top 30 lightweight and Tszyu a top 10 light welterweight. That speaks for itself. Come out with all your excuses but that's the truth.

You all make out like Hatton is God. How come Hatton KNOWS that Castillo and Tszyu are old shot and there for the taking when 99% of ESB didn't know Tszyu was pre fight and 50% didn't know Castillo wasn't pre fight? He must be a prophet.

This is the sort of moronic shit people say about Leonard. He knew Benitez, Duran II, Hearns and Hagler were there for the taking. Sort it out and give a fighter his dues.achilles your really out of order on here talking so much sense.it just wont do!

[ron u.k.]

DONT fight HATTOn on the inside.. the way to beat this guy is on the outside, just keep him away with the jab, and he'll have no chance of beating any decent fighter, he only fights on the inside and thats all he knows...

FFS when are boxers going to learn that ????

He's gone once you fight him from a distance.... I think PBF will definitely do that.. and will OUTBOX HIM!you have actually seen hatton fight have you? what about the 1st 6 rounds against urango when he fought on the outside using the jab and swift combinations and also similar against ben tackie.

[tills9191]

What I'm saying is that Hatton only knows 1 style of fighting and thats it..inside fighting, he knows nothing else, you get a fighter whose skilled enough to keep him away..Hatton will lose, that's the way to be Hatton, otherwise he's just too brutal on the inside,I'm sure any person here with half a brain can understand this point.

[brooklyn1550]

Hatton's clinching and wrestling can tire anyone out. All of that grappling tires a fighter's arms.

Hatton can be boring, but he clinches for a reason.

He would give Mayweather a lot of problems at 140.

[MSTR]

Mayweather would box his ears off. I actually think Collazo was effective inside against Hatton by keeping his guard high and his arms tight as it prevented Hatton from grappling him. If it weren't for the flash knockdown in round one Collzao would have won that fight. Mayweather has trouble against effective pressure, Hatton is far too open defensively and will give to many opportunities for counter shots.

[gatorage]

Tszyu's corner said to him, 'what are you doing mate? stop fighting on the inside. stiff jab, throw more rights'.

Tszyu simply didn't do it though till he'd wasted too much energy. He fought arrogantly in my opinion. He seemed happy to wrestle Hatton for the first three rounds and got tired. I think he suddenly realised his predicament and by then it was too late. You don't find a second burst of energy in a fight like that at 35 years of age with only two fights in four years.

Tszyu said in his post-fight conference 'I thought I could fight his fight on the inside. I did not listen to my corner. I could not twist my jab. I don't know why.'

Tszyu definitely showed how to set up Hatton though in those middle rounds before fading. I do feel a fitter boxer like Mayweather would be able to do it successfully. But damn, I'd like to see it! Mayweather doesn't hit like Tszyu and Hatton is fast on his feet.

Always thought if Tszyu had rematched Hatton immediately he had a good shot.

Congrats to Hatton!

[brooklyn1550]

Mayweather would box his ears off. I actually think Collazo was effective inside against Hatton by keeping his guard high and his arms tight as it prevented Hatton from grappling him. If it weren't for the flash knockdown in round one Collzao would have won that fight. Mayweather has trouble against effective pressure, Hatton is far too open defensively and will give to many opportunities for counter shots.

Collazo wouldn't have won the fight even without the knockdown

[tills9191]

Jee I'm glad im reiterating KT's trainer Johnny Lewis, without prior knowledge of it..so my point is valid

[Ambition_Def]

Hatton's physical nature won't carry well to 147, which is why Collazo gave him so much trouble.

As a boxer, there is really very little you can do against what Hatton does. The problem is Hatton has very good handspeed, and leaps in with his punches. You'd have to be a really good counterpuncher to catch him coming in. And it has to be before he ties you up.

He has a bit of John Ruiz in him, and that really does irk me. I can't stand guys who disallow the inside game. Hatton never really seemed to be this way before, but he is now. I can understand he is doing this or that to wear a guy down, but you have to be a dunce to not recognize that he is also doing it to avoid any sort of inside exchanges.

I will say this though, that bodyshot he knocked Castillo out with was golden, and should cement Hatton's status as one of the very best body punchers in the business. I'd put him right next to Cotto in that department.

[MSTR]

Collazo wouldn't have won the fight even without the knockdown

IMo it would have. Not on the judges scorecards however. :good

Thats what I meant.

[SugarRay]

Oh shut up with your whining. Mitchell was the consensus number 1. Don't try and change history with your hindsight bullshit.

Tszyu himself said that Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu.

Tszyu never gassed, he quit. Plus he was facing arguably the fittest fighter in the game. Did he gas when he lost the early rounds!

It isn't a fact because Tszyu showed great stamina. He has NEVER shown that sort of stamina. Don't act like Tszyus ever been a stamina freak.

Mayweathers the best boxer in the world. What moron isn't going to agree he'll give Hatton fits. However that argument can be countered based on what DLH and Castillo achieved against him. Both Floyd and Hatton will want to fight their fight. Who knows who will be able to do it more. Neither of us do. We do KNOW that Hatton beat a great 135 and 140 pounder.

The consensus on ESB is that Castillo is a top 30 lightweight and Tszyu a top 10 light welterweight. That speaks for itself. Come out with all your excuses but that's the truth.

You all make out like Hatton is God. How come Hatton KNOWS that Castillo and Tszyu are old shot and there for the taking when 99% of ESB didn't know Tszyu was pre fight and 50% didn't know Castillo wasn't pre fight? He must be a prophet.

This is the sort of moronic shit people say about Leonard. He knew Benitez, Duran II, Hearns and Hagler were there for the taking. Sort it out and give a fighter his dues.

I don't think you can discount the fact that Tszyu was not in his prime. Prior to the fight I recall boxing analysts saying that Tszyu had age and inactivity going against him.

Just because Tszyu says that the current Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu doesn't mean he could. I'm sure a 25yo Tszyu would have been fitter, hungrier and faster than a 35yo Tszyu. These three characteristics would have helped Tszyu pull through (in my thoughts anyway). Futhermore, he was perhaps a bit ring rusty since he had not fought for a while. So, I don't agree with your statements above.

Having said that, Hatton deserves credit.

[cableguy]

Do you honestly think the 43 guys who fought Hatton don't know to keep him

away from them. Hatton is an absolute beast at 140, he just walks through

all of his opponents and destroys them. Elite fighters at 147 are much bigger

and present more problems because Ricky is only 5' 6" with a 20" arm length.

Pretty Boy is another story though, he basically a 140 lb fighter who Hatton

can walk through and use his custom attack on. Floyd knows he will have to

go to war with Hatton, that is why they will never fight. Mayweather had

big problems with the physical Castillio, Hatton is like Castillio on pcp.

I heard David Haye say these exact same things in a radio interview today. Saying Mayweather should basically stay well away from Hatton because Hatton (if anyone) has the style to give him nightmares and possibly beat him

[MoneyPunch]

Oh shut up with your whining. Mitchell was the consensus number 1. Don't try and change history with your hindsight bullshit.

Tszyu himself said that Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu.

Tszyu never gassed, he quit. Plus he was facing arguably the fittest fighter in the game. Did he gas when he lost the early rounds!

It isn't a fact because Tszyu showed great stamina. He has NEVER shown that sort of stamina. Don't act like Tszyus ever been a stamina freak.

Mayweathers the best boxer in the world. What moron isn't going to agree he'll give Hatton fits. However that argument can be countered based on what DLH and Castillo achieved against him. Both Floyd and Hatton will want to fight their fight. Who knows who will be able to do it more. Neither of us do. We do KNOW that Hatton beat a great 135 and 140 pounder.

The consensus on ESB is that Castillo is a top 30 lightweight and Tszyu a top 10 light welterweight. That speaks for itself. Come out with all your excuses but that's the truth.

You all make out like Hatton is God. How come Hatton KNOWS that Castillo and Tszyu are old shot and there for the taking when 99% of ESB didn't know Tszyu was pre fight and 50% didn't know Castillo wasn't pre fight? He must be a prophet.

This is the sort of moronic shit people say about Leonard. He knew Benitez, Duran II, Hearns and Hagler were there for the taking. Sort it out and give a fighter his dues.

Who's whining you muppet??
All I was saying that people were going waaayyy overboard about Hatton. Castillo an excellent fighter a few years ago, but was chosen for his style and his name, thats fact, AND obvious!!

Then, Tszyu was chosen as he was not the force he had been, he'd been inactive, injured, and even then, during the middle rounds, he was excellent, and picked Hatton off at will, as I believe Mayweather would do, hence my reference to Mayweather.

99% of ESB didnt know something, is that the best you can offer??

[MoneyPunch]

I don't think you can discount the fact that Tszyu was not in his prime. Prior to the fight I recall boxing analysts saying that Tszyu had age and inactivity going against him.

Just because Tszyu says that the current Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu doesn't mean he could. I'm sure a 25yo Tszyu would have been fitter, hungrier and faster than a 35yo Tszyu. These three characteristics would have helped Tszyu pull through (in my thoughts anyway). Futhermore, he was perhaps a bit ring rusty since he had not fought for a while. So, I don't agree with your statements above.

Having said that, Hatton deserves credit.

Excellent post, and what I was trying to say:good .

[hitman_hatton1]

u can't play hatton's game. :nono

collazo had the right idea at times in there.

but he was guilty is mixing it up too much. :patsch

[ron u.k.]

What I'm saying is that Hatton only knows 1 style of fighting and thats it..inside fighting, he knows nothing else, you get a fighter whose skilled enough to keep him away..Hatton will lose, that's the way to be Hatton, otherwise he's just too brutal on the inside,I'm sure any person here with half a brain can understand this point.well any person with half a brain can clearly see he isn't a one trick pony,because he has fought on the outside in fights and with success.listen i think hatton loses to mayweather,cotto,mosley and de la hoya but one trick pony he aint.

[achillesthegreat]

I don't think you can discount the fact that Tszyu was not in his prime. Prior to the fight I recall boxing analysts saying that Tszyu had age and inactivity going against him.

Just because Tszyu says that the current Tszyu beats a younger Tszyu doesn't mean he could. I'm sure a 25yo Tszyu would have been fitter, hungrier and faster than a 35yo Tszyu. These three characteristics would have helped Tszyu pull through (in my thoughts anyway). Futhermore, he was perhaps a bit ring rusty since he had not fought for a while. So, I don't agree with your statements above.

Having said that, Hatton deserves credit.
So what if he wasn't prime.

The Tszyu activity thing is BULLSHIT. They like to say one fight in two years rather than say he'd fought 6 months prior to face Hatton and had three training camps prior to Mitchell.

25 year wasn't fitter. Tszyu showed the best stamina of his career. He didn't quit because he gassed. He quit because he knew he was '3-4 points behind' and nothing was working for him.

Bollocks about being rusty. In three rounds he found his range and timing on a fast, slick, tricky southpaw. He lost those rounds to Hatton. He then stayed on good terms with Hatton until the last quarter of the fight when Hatton proved too much.

It was a great win. Period. Fighters ALWAYS have excuses.

[Relentless]

So what if he wasn't prime.

The Tszyu activity thing is BULLSHIT. They like to say one fight in two years rather than say he'd fought 6 months prior to face Hatton and had three training camps prior to Mitchell.

25 year wasn't fitter. Tszyu showed the best stamina of his career. He didn't quit because he gassed. He quit because he knew he was '3-4 points behind' and nothing was working for him.

Bollocks about being rusty. In three rounds he found his range and timing on a fast, slick, tricky southpaw. He lost those rounds to Hatton. He then stayed on good terms with Hatton until the last quarter of the fight when Hatton proved too much.

It was a great win. Period. Fighters ALWAYS have excuses.

calm down, you always seem to keep your cool until something is being said about hatton.

[achillesthegreat]

Who's whining you muppet??
All I was saying that people were going waaayyy overboard about Hatton. Castillo an excellent fighter a few years ago, but was chosen for his style and his name, thats fact, AND obvious!!

Then, Tszyu was chosen as he was not the force he had been, he'd been inactive, injured, and even then, during the middle rounds, he was excellent, and picked Hatton off at will, as I believe Mayweather would do, hence my reference to Mayweather.

99% of ESB didnt know something, is that the best you can offer??
Stop with your hindsight bullshit.

What you 'believe' is irrelevent. People 'believe' alot in foresight.

99% of the WORLD didn't know that something.

Buck up. FACT - Hatton has two great wins. The general forum disgusts me. Not you specifically, though partially, but you are all fan boys. What happened to respecting fighters and giving them their dues.

[achillesthegreat]

calm down, you always seem to keep your cool until something is being said about hatton.
The Hatton thing has rubbed me the wrong way. The general forum disgusts me. Give a man his due.

Did you see Hattons face when Kellerman started spewing his bollocks? Man, you train 14 weeks, you prove your first great win wasn't a fluke and then you got this cock in your face.

I lose my cool on stupid points.

Everyone needs to show a bit of respect and give fighters their due.

[Knob McDude]

The Hatton thing has rubbed me the wrong way. The general forum disgusts me. Give a man his due.

Did you see Hattons face when Kellerman started spewing his bollocks? Man, you train 14 weeks, you prove your first great win wasn't a fluke and then you got this cock in your face.

I lose my cool on stupid points.

Everyone needs to show a bit of respect and give fighters their due.

How does this fight prove that?

At this point, Castillo is far from a great fighter.

It was a great win, vs a very well past it boxer.

(I said this prior to the bout, look at my past posts)

Floyd spanks Ricky, in a boring UD.

[achillesthegreat]

How does this fight prove that?

At this point, Castillo is far from a great fighter.

It was a great win, vs a very well past it boxer.

(I said this prior to the bout, look at my past posts)

Floyd spanks Ricky, in a boring UD.
Loads of fighters get the odd win, it doesn't mean they are great. Hatton proved it was no fluke.

Of course some will call it pre fight. Thankfully there is a consensus and that was that it was a 50-50 fight.

You watch the fight and you see Castillo having trouble with the fast start, the agility, the dynamic approach and the body work. Doesn't matter when the fight is.

[MoneyPunch]

Stop with your hindsight bullshit.

What you 'believe' is irrelevent. People 'believe' alot in foresight.

99% of the WORLD didn't know that something.

Buck up. FACT - Hatton has two great wins. The general forum disgusts me. Not you specifically, though partially, but you are all fan boys. What happened to respecting fighters and giving them their dues.

Are you this simple, or just blinded by some sort of rage.
I AM giving Hatton his dues, they ARE two very good wins, but there is no doubt both Castillo and Tszyu had seen better days.
Hatton deserves respect, as any Champion does, but my point was not to go overboard about him beating a shopworn Castillo, and that Mayweather would beat him using the tactics Tszyu used from round 3 to about 7 or 8, just Mayweather has the legs and style to do it for 12.

Its like Mayweather beating DLH, a very good win, but DLH had clearly seen better days.

How does making these obvious points, make me a fan boy?
It clearly doesnt, its you, a simpleton, throwing insults to try to cover up the fact your none too bright.:hi:

[josak]

Do you honestly think the 43 guys who fought Hatton don't know to keep him

away from them. Hatton is an absolute beast at 140, he just walks through

all of his opponents and destroys them. Elite fighters at 147 are much bigger

and present more problems because Ricky is only 5' 6" with a 20" arm length.

Pretty Boy is another story though, he basically a 140 lb fighter who Hatton

can walk through and use his custom attack on. Floyd knows he will have to

go to war with Hatton, that is why they will never fight. Mayweather had

big problems with the physical Castillio, Hatton is like Castillio on pcp.

Well said. I think Hatton is the one to beat Mayweather. People forget how quick he is too, and powerful.

[roly]

How does this fight prove that?

At this point, Castillo is far from a great fighter.

It was a great win, vs a very well past it boxer.

(I said this prior to the bout, look at my past posts)

Floyd spanks Ricky, in a boring UD.

the hatton that fought castillo on saturday would have beaten a prime castillo at 140

[maciek4]

People think that PBF is just going to jab and run against Hatton and Cotto and they wont be able to get to him, wrong. DLH was able to trap him and unleash on him so Hatton and Cotto being only 26-28 and in their prime will have more success.

[Knob McDude]

the hatton that fought castillo on saturday would have beaten a prime castillo at 140

A prime Castillo's best weight is 135.

Ricky loves beating up on blown up lightweights, I agree he would have won.

Ricky won't beat a prime PBF, or a prime Cotto.

I betcha neither fight happens.

Other then those two fighters, Ricky will beat most others from 147 down.

He is an elite fighter, please don't take my criticism of his opponents, as a criticism of his skill.

He's my 3rd favorite fighter. (behind Gatti and Cotto)

[achillesthegreat]

Are you this simple, or just blinded by some sort of rage.
I AM giving Hatton his dues, they ARE two very good wins, but there is no doubt both Castillo and Tszyu had seen better days.
Hatton deserves respect, as any Champion does, but my point was not to go overboard about him beating a shopworn Castillo, and that Mayweather would beat him using the tactics Tszyu used from round 3 to about 7 or 8, just Mayweather has the legs and style to do it for 12.

Its like Mayweather beating DLH, a very good win, but DLH had clearly seen better days.

How does making these obvious points, make me a fan boy?
It clearly doesnt, its you, a simpleton, throwing insults to try to cover up the fact your none too bright.:hi:
There were great wins.

Stop bringing up other names who would beat Hatton. Just give the man his dues. As I've said, people thought Tszyu and Castillo would do so and so. They were wrong.

DLH is still a potent force. He performed exceptionally well.

What did I say about being a fan boy - 'Not you specifically'. Cock.

[MSTR]

well any person with half a brain can clearly see he isn't a one trick pony,because he has fought on the outside in fights and with success.listen i think hatton loses to mayweather,cotto,mosley and de la hoya but one trick pony he aint.

I have seen Hatton try to box and it is pretty rough. He can do it, but he would struggle to out box a journeyman fighter. He wouldn't dream of doing it against boxings elite. He is one dimensional IMO, but the thing is you know what he is going to do, it is your job to work out how to stop him. That is one of the things I like about Hatton, is that he makes you change the way you fight, not vice versa.

[MSTR]

Well said. I think Hatton is the one to beat Mayweather. People forget how quick he is too, and powerful.

Hatton is too open defensively to beat Mayweather. He will give floyd too many opportunities to pot shot him.

[MoneyPunch]

There were great wins.

Stop bringing up other names who would beat Hatton. Just give the man his dues. As I've said, people thought Tszyu and Castillo would do so and so. They were wrong.

DLH is still a potent force. He performed exceptionally well.

What did I say about being a fan boy - 'Not you specifically'. Cock.

Your a spangle!
I brought up those names, as my point was, in reference to the title "dont fight Hatton on the inside, PBF is the man", that Tszyu had shown us how to beat Hatton, see my first post, and that Mayweather would beat him using that approach.

And I quote, from your post "but you are all fan boys"

Are you an idiot, or an irritant, I can decide?