Taylor wants a slugfest

[jsimps]

"Taylor relishes the opportunity to swap power shots."
I think Taylor is going into this fight thinking he has a lot to prove, because of the public outcry he has suffered from his last two fights. He is going to ignore Manny's instruction, try to go toe to toe, and his pride is going to get him KTFO.

[PolishPummler]

So do we!

[brooklyn1550]

I wonder if he really will be aggressive and trade shots. That would be a strategic nightmare for him. If he does slug with Pavlik, it will be over in 5 rounds.

[brooklyn1550]

untalented fighters like Pavlik and Hatton:smoke

They aren't untalented...they are world class elite fighters. Especially Hatton.

[AJAX]

total bullshit, if he trades with pavlik he looses. He'll do the same as he always does and go for a spilt decision.

[Ramshall1]

One thing Im sure of, Taylor will not run from Pavlik. . . can hardly wait for this one. . . props to HBO for not putting it on PPV.

[box03]

I think he can go toe to toe with Pavlik and win, but will just have to see come fight time.

[Jose FM]

No he doesnt, and if he really does then hes more of a dumbass than i knew.

[Lampley]

I think there's a big difference between a slugfest and a shootout. A slugfest would be standing flat-footed and trading like Gatti/Ward. For a shootout, I think of two guys fighting all offense, but usually incorporating movement, changing speeds and overall taking a more sophisticated approach.

I agree a slugfest would not be in Taylor's best interests, but he has a very good chance in a shootout.

My guess is that's what he has in mind.

[Amsterdam]

No he doesnt, and if he really does then hes more of a dumbass than i knew.

Does he appear intelligent to you?:lol:

[Jose FM]

Does he appear intelligent to you?:lol:
Well that sounds pretty stupid, like your avatar, you dominican?

[Jose FM]

Oh shite, just realized who you were, sorry mate.

[C Money]

Hatton is just hyped mate,you will see that come December 8,dont believe things from Britain until they been tested.They have perfect matchmaking down there,even yourself if you go to the UK,you will fight for a title and get it and defend it 43 times against tomato cans,bouncers,pensioners and geriatrics. and has beens(All respect to Witter Thats an elite fighter)

:huh

Kostya Tszyu wa light years ahead of anything Witter's faced:yep

It sure sounds like you're a Witter fan with sour grapes because Hatton hasnt fought him yet.

Relax, there's a fair chance Witter will get a shot AFTER th PBF vs Hatton fight. If Witter's smart he does all he can to get Malignaggi or Rees in the meantime. He's already called out PM and If i were him?? I might even be willing to come Stateside for that fight.

Get the win, get US exposure, and that will position him right where he needs to be for Hatton.

[brooklyn1550]

Hatton is just hyped mate,you will see that come December 8,dont believe things from Britain until they been tested.They have perfect matchmaking down there,even yourself if you go to the UK,you will fight for a title and get it and defend it 43 times against tomato cans,bouncers,pensioners and geriatrics. and has beens(All respect to Witter Thats an elite fighter)

I'm sorry, but Hatton is an elite fighter. You don't become an undisputed champion at 140 and a title holder at 140 beating Kostya Tszyu, Jose Luis Castillo, Luis Collazo, and Vince Phillips without being a world class fighter. Yes, he may be hyped by those who think he will beat Mayweather, because he definitely will not, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is an elite fighter.

When Mayweather beats him, people who call Hatton a "hype job" etc. shouldn't give Mayweather a massive amount of praise calling him "the GOAT" or "top 10 all time."

[Amsterdam]

Well that sounds pretty stupid, like your avatar, you dominican?

I am Swiss, just a fan of Joan Guzman.:D

[C Money]

On topic, i agree with Lampley regarding Taylor wanting a shootout more so than a slugfest. I believe that this is a good match up of styles and will produce plenty of fireworks.

Taylor will use his jab, shuffle back, and come out swinging when pushed to the ropes.

Pavlik will keep coming, and coming, and coming!!

This has FOTY written all over it IMO:good

[kg0208]

Hatton is just hyped mate,you will see that come December 8,dont believe things from Britain until they been tested.They have perfect matchmaking down there,even yourself if you go to the UK,you will fight for a title and get it and defend it 43 times against tomato cans,bouncers,pensioners and geriatrics. and has beens(All respect to Witter Thats an elite fighter)

Hatton is an elite fighter. It's crazy to think he is not. And if he is NOT an elite fighter, then shame on PBF for fighting him at this stage in his career right?

[brooklyn1550]

I, for one, cannot wait until the 29th. It should be a fantastic start to the next few months which promise to be a fight-fan's dream.

[KayEpps]

Slugfest - Taylor wins.

Boxing - Taylor wins.

It's not going to really make a difference.

[jsimps]

Taylor's pride is damaged and I would not be surprised to see him try and slug it out. I believe he thinks he has something to prove.

[box03]

Slugfest - Taylor wins.

Boxing - Taylor wins.

It's not going to really make a difference. I agree Taylor can fight any type of fight and still win.

[brooklyn1550]

Slugfest - Pavlik wins
Boxing - Pavlik wins, but Taylor has a decent chance in this type of fight

Taylor could beat Abraham, Sturm, Duddy, Sylvester, and Karmazin in my opinion, but I don't see him beating Kelly Pavlik.

[brooklyn1550]

Come December 8 people will see the truth.Even PBF said Hatton is a phoney fighter,a great fraud and he will show the world why.Lets see how it goes,Gatti-Mayweather was more competitive than Hatton-Mayweather

You guys will remember these words

It doesn't matter what Floyd says. He calls himself the best ever. That doesn't make it true.

Please, Gatti is no where near the fighter Ricky Hatton is. Mark these words: Mayweather/Hatton will be more competitive than Mayweather/Gatti.

[ryanty22]

if taylor fights like he did against ouma backing up the whole time pavlik WILL knock him out. he is gonna beat up hbo's TOOL jermain taylor

[kg0208]

Hatton throws hooks and Mayweather takes such people apart.What else can Hatton do,he cant use jabs because Mayweather would have a field day,he cant use hooks because non of them will land.

I believe Mayweather in this one,Hatton will be a punchbag.I applaud him for taking his first O in a painful way but being elite I dont buy it

Let me make this simple for you. If you believe PBF is the best fighter in the world, and I do, then LOSING to him will not make you a bum.

[brooklyn1550]

Hatton throws hooks and Mayweather takes such people apart.What else can Hatton do,he cant use jabs because Mayweather would have a field day,he cant use hooks because non of them will land.

I believe Mayweather in this one,Hatton will be a punchbag.I applaud him for taking his first O in a painful way but being elite I dont buy it

You become a ring champion and a 2 division world champion defeating potentially 2 hall of famers both by stoppages and you are elite...bottom line.

He gets picked apart by Mayweather and will lose a wide decision, although unlike Gatti, I think he wont get stopped and will actually win more than 0 rounds.

[Ramshall1]

Come December 8 people will see the truth.Even PBF said Hatton is a phoney fighter,a great fraud and he will show the world why.Lets see how it goes,Gatti-Mayweather was more competitive than Hatton-Mayweather

You guys will remember these words

Pure ignorance.

[box03]

Mayweather might win but he wont do it in an entertaining way, his usual one punch at a time make you miss type of fight. Just for once I would like to see Mayweather in war, his fights are rather boring.

[Max Molyneux]

:huh

Kostya Tszyu wa light years ahead of anything Witter's faced:yep

It sure sounds like you're a Witter fan with sour grapes because Hatton hasnt fought him yet.

Relax, there's a fair chance Witter will get a shot AFTER th PBF vs Hatton fight. If Witter's smart he does all he can to get Malignaggi or Rees in the meantime. He's already called out PM and If i were him?? I might even be willing to come Stateside for that fight.

Get the win, get US exposure, and that will position him right where he needs to be for Hatton.

Witter would of beaten the Tszyu and Castillo's that Hatton fought.

As for Taylor he should box Pavlik, he will win a clear decision If he does. Miranda was nothing special.

[C Money]

Come December 8 people will see the truth.Even PBF said Hatton is a phoney fighter,a great fraud and he will show the world why.Lets see how it goes,Gatti-Mayweather was more competitive than Hatton-Mayweather

You guys will remember these words


:-( :-( :-( :-(

Hatton is 10 times the fighter Gatti is/was:yep

That's an absurd statement!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no shame in either man losing.

Floyd's the favorite and has height and stylistic advantages, but Hatton will make him work and may very well push floyd harder than he ever has.

[C Money]

Witter would of beaten the Tszyu and Castillo's that Hatton fought.

As for Taylor he should box Pavlik, he will win a clear decision If he does. Miranda was nothing special.

I'm not putting Witter down:nono Just pointing out that Tszyu was THE CHAMP, a unified Champ, and wasnt a tomato can type win which the original poster stated of hattons record. Perhaps Junior will, could, and might, but he hasnt faced that level yet.

Yes, taylor should box Pavlik and will. He'll use his jab, shuffle back, and come out swinging when hes forced too:good

[Boro chris]

no disrespect,only fools utter unfounded comments,justify your statement:hat

No, he's right. Your post was pure ignorance. Floyd wins this one fairly easily imo. But only coz he's the best in boxing today. Not because Hatton isn't elite. This should turn out to be one of Floyds best scalps on his resume.

[Boro chris]

Witter would of beaten the Tszyu and Castillo's that Hatton fought.

As for Taylor he should box Pavlik, he will win a clear decision If he does. Miranda was nothing special.

I would slightly favour Witter over Castillo but not KT. He struck me as still having quite a lot left in the tank. Main reason he lost to Hatton was because of stylistic differences. KT's great but he could get disorganised by pressure at times.

[Zakman]

I wonder if he really will be aggressive and trade shots. That would be a strategic nightmare for him. If he does slug with Pavlik, it will be over in 5 rounds.

It's gonna be over in 5 rounds - or less - no matter what he does.:yep

There is a REASON Taylor has been facing light-hitting fighters coming up from lower weights ever since Hopkins rocked him!! :nod

[AJAX]

Slugfest - Taylor wins.

Boxing - Taylor wins.

It's not going to really make a difference.

when was Taylor ever in a slugfest? he will out box Pavlik but not in a slugfest

[Max Molyneux]

I'm not putting Witter down:nono Just pointing out that Tszyu was THE CHAMP, a unified Champ, and wasnt a tomato can type win which the original poster stated of hattons record. Perhaps Junior will, could, and might, but he hasnt faced that level yet.

Yes, taylor should box Pavlik and will. He'll use his jab, shuffle back, and come out swinging when hes forced too:good

Tszyu never seemed to be a very active champ to me.

What future hall of famer only fights once a year as champ? Hatton stalls and picks most fighters at the right time.

Witter took any fight he could get to get to world level while Hatton fought journymen or past their best fighters In Manchester to get a shot at Tszyu. Witter earned his titles much more.

[Max Molyneux]

Watch what Hatton will be eating for 6 rounds before he quits on his stool
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Floyd doesn't need to slip about pot shotting against Hatton. Hatton won't do as well as DLH did.

[Ramshall1]

no disrespect,only fools utter unfounded comments,justify your statement:hat

come on now, Gatti-Mayweather was a whitewash from the start. . . Hell, Hattons hugs will do more damage than any of Gatti's missed punches.

[JETSKI]

JT better be careful what he wishes for, cause he just might get it!:yep

[Picachu]

Watch what Hatton will be eating for 6 rounds before he quits on his stool
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Nice gif btw, great quality.

I think many people are underestimating Hatton. Hatton will (try) smother PBF, so that he cant realy throw jabs. PBF leans back when defending, giving him abit of space to get his reply-shots in. Against Hatton it will be a totaly different fight. Hatton will be sticking to PBF like JLo's tanga to her butt. If Hatton can not remove that space between him and PBF as shown in the picture, he'll lose badly.

Im realy curious to see how PBF handles Hatton's style. I think PBF got more in his arsenal to win this one, even though I hope Hatton will deliver us an upset.

Oops, nearly forgot the topic :nut

JT slugging it out ... this one I want to see first before I believe it.

[JAM Killer]

Taylor wants a slugfest because Taylor needs a slugfest, he is not going to be the better technical boxer in the ring on Sept. 29, but his experience in a slugfest, along with his power would make the fight swing in his favor.

[brooklyn1550]

Taylor wants a slugfest because Taylor needs a slugfest, he is not going to be the better technical boxer in the ring on Sept. 29, but his experience in a slugfest, along with his power would make the fight swing in his favor.

I don't think he has the advantage in power

[JAM Killer]

I don't think he has the advantage in power
I think that Taylor's power is underrated, and I know that Pavlik's chin is not tested, Taylor's power does seem to be inferior to Pavlik's, but his chin is tested.

Plus the x factor, Taylor is an experienced fighter.

[brooklyn1550]

I think that Taylor's power is underrated, and I know that Pavlik's chin is not tested, Taylor's power does seem to be inferior to Pavlik's, but his chin is tested.

Plus the x factor, Taylor is an experienced fighter.

There is no question about it: Taylor is the more experienced fighter and has faced the better fighters. I think Pavlik's chin has been tested against Miranda. He seems to have an excellent chin.

[Amsterdam]

I think that Taylor's power is underrated, and I know that Pavlik's chin is not tested, Taylor's power does seem to be inferior to Pavlik's, but his chin is tested.

Plus the x factor, Taylor is an experienced fighter.

Taylor's power is not enough to put away certain LMW's, much less a big MW with a proven solid chin at least. Pavlik has put away guys who have otherwise not been stopped outside of their bout with him.

The power is not even remotely comparable. The Ouma fight tells you everything you need to know about Taylor's mediocre power, considering LMW punchers have hurt Ouma badly and Taylor could not so much as drop him.

Pavlik would have had Ouma out in 3 rounds.

[JAM Killer]

There is no question about it: Taylor is the more experienced fighter and has faced the better fighters. I think Pavlik's chin has been tested against Miranda. He seems to have an excellent chin.

Miranda is a class a puncher that is for sure, but I do not remember Miranda hitting Pavlik clean, he was mainly firing off the back foot and looking tired and not his usual self.

[psychopath]

Taylor wants a slugfest

Good! That's what people wants to see. Pavlik will trade so he'll get what he wants.

Now . . . let's see who'll remain standing after the smoke clears up.

:hey :good

Go JT!!!!

[cdsimple]

Taylor would actually be better off in a slugfest, imo. Pavlik is very easy to hit, has an orthodox basic style, and tends to become off balance when he misses his sloppy shots. Plus, add to the fact that JT has a considerable speed advantage over Pavlik, I like his chances in a slugfest.

[JAM Killer]

Taylor's power is not enough to put away certain LMW's, much less a big MW with a proven solid chin at least. Pavlik has put away guys who have otherwise not been stopped outside of their bout with him.

The power is not even remotely comparable. The Ouma fight tells you everything you need to know about Taylor's mediocre power, considering LMW punchers have hurt Ouma badly and Taylor could not so much as drop him.

Pavlik would have had Ouma out in 3 rounds.

Okay, I am going to say something basic here.

In boxing, you do not go into the ring and compare and contrast strengths, you fight. Pavlik hits harder than Taylor, I know this, but it won't matter if Taylor is getting his shots off first. And that is where experience comes in. Taylor has fought awkward styles, and in my opinion lost a lot of championship fights, but all that means nothing now, he is not fighting an awkward man, he is fighting a man who is going to stand right there in front of him. This is Taylor's dream fight come true.

[Toopretty]

nah...pavlik is a tough dude..the guy is too tough for JT to slug with unless JT keeps his chin tucked and his gloves up to at block pavliks shots....JT will land clean and flush on pavlik but he needs to work pavliks body quick fast and in a hurry or he will crumble himself..

[psychopath]

Okay, I am going to say something basic here.

In boxing, you do not go into the ring and compare and contrast strengths, you fight. Pavlik hits harder than Taylor, I know this, but it won't matter if Taylor is getting his shots off first. And that is where experience comes in. Taylor has fought awkward styles, and in my opinion lost a lot of championship fights, but all that means nothing now, he is not fighting an awkward man, he is fighting a man who is going to stand right there in front of him. This is Taylor's dream fight come true.


:yep :good

[cdsimple]

Okay, I am going to say something basic here.

In boxing, you do not go into the ring and compare and contrast strengths, you fight. Pavlik hits harder than Taylor, I know this, but it won't matter if Taylor is getting his shots off first. And that is where experience comes in. Taylor has fought awkward styles, and in my opinion lost a lot of championship fights, but all that means nothing now, he is not fighting an awkward man, he is fighting a man who is going to stand right there in front of him. This is Taylor's dream fight come true.

Exactly. Taylor will not have to look hard to find his target with Pavlik. Contrast his style with that of Hopkins, Wright, or Spinks. All of those guys rarely get hit flush, where as Pavlik comes in to take a few shots to give a few shots. The problem for him will come when hes taking 2 or 3 consistantly before he can get his offense gng.

Pavlik is a very basic fighter, granted, hes a very good basic fighter but basic no less.

[Scar]

I'm a fan of both but Taylor is going to win this whether it's a slugfest or not.

[MSTR]

I wonder if he really will be aggressive and trade shots. That would be a strategic nightmare for him. If he does slug with Pavlik, it will be over in 5 rounds.
Agreed.

[Executioner]

I really don't see how Taylor wins in a slugest. I only see him winning if he goes back to his jab, hits Pavlik and moves away to AVOID getting into exchanges and plays it safe.

[Irländsk]

.....he Can't Handle A Slugfest!!!!!!

[JETSKI]

I really don't see how Taylor wins in a slugest. I only see him winning if he goes back to his jab, hits Pavlik and moves away to AVOID getting into exchanges and plays it safe.

Move away?

AVOID?

Plays it safe?

Not with Kelly. JT better be on his A+ game & even still, KP will pressure him, wear him down, find his chin & that will be the end of Taylors undefeated record.

[brooklyn1550]

Move away?

AVOID?

Plays it safe?

Not with Kelly. JT better be on his A+ game & even still, KP will pressure him, wear him down, find his chin & that will be the end of Taylors undefeated record.

You're going to the fight, correct?

[JETSKI]

You're going to the fight, correct?

(2) $200 seats. Section 103. You should know that by now.:D

You know, coming back from vacation in Maine the day of the fight...

[brooklyn1550]

(2) $200 seats. Section 103. You should know that by now.:D

You know, coming back from vacation in Maine the day of the fight...

Write us up a report on how the event was:good

[Jinx]

Taylor can win a slugfest with Pavlik because of his greater speed...whoever lands first will win the exchanges, both have power even tho Pavlik may have a little more in one shot...Taylor is going to look good against Pavlik...

[Alo2006]

Slugfest - Pavlik wins
Boxing - Pavlik wins, but Taylor has a decent chance in this type of fight

Taylor could beat Abraham, Sturm, Duddy, Sylvester, and Karmazin in my opinion, but I don't see him beating Kelly Pavlik.

Well u will get to see it soon :yep

[Grabonator]

"Taylor relishes the opportunity to swap power shots."
I think Taylor is going into this fight thinking he has a lot to prove, because of the public outcry he has suffered from his last two fights. He is going to ignore Manny's instruction, try to go toe to toe, and his pride is going to get him KTFO.

Yes, just like Miranda.

[Grabonator]

Slugfest - Taylor wins.

Boxing - Taylor wins.

It's not going to really make a difference.

How do you think Taylor would win a slugfest against Pavlick?? Thats makes no sence. even Miranda whos tough as nails and powerfull couldnt hang with Pavlick. tailor is not as strong as Miranda and Pavlick, a slugfest would be the dumbest he could do. But it will be an good fight and Taylor will show more as in his recent fights, he HAS to show more if he wants to beat Pavlick.

[Grabonator]

The laws of Physics clearly say Hatton cant land a shot on Mayweather.He swings hooks and by the time the hook is near Floyd will have detonated 3 jabs already,which literally mean hatton will be eating them jabs all night.

The grab and punch tactics wont work here,they couldnt work against Collazo ,what more Floyd with the hight,the speed and the movement.Hatton is nothing but a glorified bum

I cant stand you. Hatton wil lose to Mayweather but hes a verry good fighter and hes fast. If you say Hatton is a bum then why is Mayweather fighting him?? Hatton is verry good, but Mayweather is better. It will not be easy for Floyd, Hatton is far better than Gatti. Hatton could beat almost everyone at 140.

[Grabonator]

Watch what Hatton will be eating for 6 rounds before he quits on his stool
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Maybe Mayweather can really stop Hatton with shots like that.

[Grabonator]

Miranda is a class a puncher that is for sure, but I do not remember Miranda hitting Pavlik clean, he was mainly firing off the back foot and looking tired and not his usual self.

Watch it again, Miranda was tired after a few round but he landed some verry good hard punches as well. Pavlick has a damn good chin and he had better stamina thats why he has beaten Miranda. Im still not shure though if the problems making weight affected Miranda. We will se it in his next fights at 168 if he will do better or not.

[Ambition_Def]

Watch it again, Miranda was tired after a few round but he landed some verry good hard punches as well. Pavlick has a damn good chin and he had better stamina thats why he has beaten Miranda. Im still not shure though if the problems making weight affected Miranda. We will se it in his next fights at 168 if he will do better or not.

Exactly. I just infact watched this fight again. In the first 3 rounds Miranda hit Pavlik with everything he had and couldn't get him. At best he wobbled him momentarily.

Taylor can't even put a dent in little Kassim Ouma. No comparison in power.

I'll say it again. Taylor is where he is on youth and energy. He basically out-spirited Hopkins. And just because Pavlik is easy to find, doesn't mean he can't find you. There is a reason he gets hit so much. He throws that right hand one right after another, with no intent on letting up.

If Taylor handles that I'll be shocked.

[teekay00]

that boy taylor dont want a slugfest, i know his name is kelly but he can hit hard.

[jsimps]

Miranda is a class a puncher that is for sure, but I do not remember Miranda hitting Pavlik clean, he was mainly firing off the back foot and looking tired and not his usual self.

No way, Miranda caught him cleanly several times. Clean enough to snap his head back. Kelly was able to absorb those punches and kept coming forward. Also, almost everybody underrates his defense. He uses his shoulders a lot and his offense provides much defense.

[He Hate Me]

"Taylor relishes the opportunity to swap power shots."
I think Taylor is going into this fight thinking he has a lot to prove, because of the public outcry he has suffered from his last two fights. He is going to ignore Manny's instruction, try to go toe to toe, and his pride is going to get him KTFO.

If he ignores manny again like he did in the spinks fight ,im sure many will not train him anymore.

[BewareofDawg]

His "Pride" will be sent sprinting back to the locker room after he gets his bell rung and sees that his "Power Shots" have very little effect on his opponent. Then all that will be left is his will to eek out another bullshit decision.

[Executioner]

There is absolutely NO comparison in Power. Not even close. When they asked Ouma about Taylor after the fight, I remember him saying "my grandmother hits harder" :yep

Pavlik would have starched Ouma

[jsimps]

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Who could have taken these and remained on their feet?

[Zakman]

If Taylor trades with Pavlik, he'll get starched early - very early. If he doesn't, he'll get starched later.

There is a REASON he'd been fighting light hitters moving up from the lower weights. :yep

We're about to find out, when Pavlik knocks this overrated, gift-decision collecting, shaky-chinned hype job O-U-T, out! :nod

[BITCH ASS]

I think there's a big difference between a slugfest and a shootout. A slugfest would be standing flat-footed and trading like Gatti/Ward. For a shootout, I think of two guys fighting all offense, but usually incorporating movement, changing speeds and overall taking a more sophisticated approach.

I agree a slugfest would not be in Taylor's best interests, but he has a very good chance in a shootout.

My guess is that's what he has in mind.

Good point.

Lot's of straights in quick combination and then a change of direction hook. He could catch Pavlik flatfooted, and keep him grounded before Pavlik can set his feet and land those power shots.

Taylor would be best if he were to fight like a super aggressive Cory Spinks if there is such a thing.

Taylor can bang though, don't doubt him.

Taylor is a hard individual. Growing up in Little Rock is no joke. When I was younger, I had to watch a video on gangs of little rock. I thought some of the people around me were hard, then I saw those guys.

Those guys were ridiculous.

In order for Taylor to avoid a fate like that he must have had great courage which makes for a powerful heart.

Power is derived from the will to win.

If Taylor believes enough he will absorb the pain and keep strong mentally.

Don't doubt him because he might surprise us all by winning.

[marauder1999]

Taylor is as dumb as a pile of rocks if he even thinks for a second he can outlast a slugfest with Pavlik. Geez.

[jsimps]

Marvin Hagler and Jake LaMotta... Taylor on the other hand would undoubtedly be knocked the fuck out.:yep

That's my point... Taylor is neither.

[jsimps]

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