Anyone who is impartial has to think Mayweather is a SURE favorite, right?

[codeman99998]

Right?

[brooklyn1550]

Definitely

[C Money]

Yes, Floyd is the favorite, I cant see any reasonable or acceptable scenario that makes Ricky the favorite.


That said?? So what!! Favorites were made to be broken:lol:

Not positive that Hatton will win, but pretty damn sure that he will give Floyd a hell of a fight:good

[kg0208]

He is the favorite. Anyone who thinks that the loser is a bum or overrated? Well you're the reason we don't get these fights very often. :deal

[Thread Stealer]

A 2-1 favorite seems about on point.

[brooklyn1550]

Well you're the reason we don't get these fights very often. :deal

:good

[Maxmomer]

On paper it looks like, but I have a feeling that Hatton could pull an upset. Of course, I'm never going to bet on a feeling, unless this one and the next one pan out, then I might.

[brooklyn1550]

This is as natural as gravity,Hatton moves forward he gets 3 jabs ,Floyd moves away,Hatton tries again the same procedure.Hatton is a one dimnesional fighter.Graham will get tired of seeing that and will throw in a towel

It's not out of the question to say Mayweather wins via TKO, but the question now becomes....

What will you say about this win for Mayweather and what will it do, in your opinion, for his legacy?

[McGrain]

I'd make him favourite for sure.

But i'll be watching. It's no mismatch.

[pipe wrenched]

:good Right.

[brooklyn1550]

Those counter rights would have stopped lil Ricketty:deal

Nope

[brooklyn1550]

Standi, how do you see Mayweather-Hearns going at 147?

[McGrain]

Lovely footage of Oscar-Mayweather. I liked that fight.

Hatton has the style to trouble Mayweather, the guts to carry it of and doesn't cut like he used to. He'll make it hard on Floyd for as long as he's in there and that will probably be all 12.

[C Money]

Sounds like the same bullshot leading up to the Gatti fight..

Floyd will whip Ricketty just as easilly...and as badly:deal


From whom???

certainly not I:nono

If you believe that Gatti and Hatton are on the same level??

Welcome to boxing:good

Floyd may win, but Hatton will most definitely be a more difficult proposition than gatti who was shitting his pants during the ringwalk.

[brooklyn1550]

Oscar and Frankie Randall made that guy in your siggy QUIT

And what does that have anything to do with the topic of this thread? By the way, I'm not a big Chavez fan so I don't care.

Frankie Randall didn't make him quit.

[bigtime9]

floyd is going to slash ricky hatton's face to pieces. the hook and hold tactic won't work because floyd is not going to be there for hatton in the first four rounds.

floyd is going to use his superior lateral movement to keep ricky off balance as he dives in to hold. around round 5 floyd is going to start going toe-to-toe with hatton and break him down. I doubt ricky sees the end of this fight. let alone ten rounds.

[brooklyn1550]

but even before then Ben Tackie exposed him as well.


Ben Tackie exposed Hatton?

[brooklyn1550]

Oh yes he did..Randall made him quit in the rematch..it's on tape for all prosperity..:yep

He used a small cut high on his forehead as an excuse to QUIT..

The doc did not stop the fight..He looked at the cut and said it's ok..but chavez kept shaking his head no,then the Doc said "he doesn't want to fight"

Go back and check it out..The Surgeon made his ass quit

I've seen it before and he didn't want to fight, but regardless, he won. Randall beat him convincingly the 1st fight though.

[brooklyn1550]

He made the whole arena quite,should have been in the 10th round,Ricky had to hold on for dear life
Dont get me wrong Hatton won hands down but he got caught towards the end of the fight

Everybody gets caught....in that case Judah exposed Mayweather because he stunned him with a straight left and a short little counter hook.

[C Money]

I've been labelled a fool for saying the same thing.Hatton is phoney,and unmissable,he cant take a beating all night,Collazo exposed him but even before then Ben Tackie exposed him as well.
Its gonna be brutal,I seriously believe hatton wont go the distance

You're both foolish to use gatti as a comparison for Hatton in this fight!!

Also foolish to call Hatton a phony when he beat Tszyu.

Yet, have it!!!!!!

[C Money]

Remember how Gatt was supposed to hit Floyd on the arms and blast through his shoulder roll?

Remember how Gatti was supposed to break Floyd's ribs like Dorin's?

Remember how Buddy had made Gatti a master boxer that could bomb Floyd from the outside??
WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN??:patsch

This fight will make the Gatti beating look like a massage:lol:

You're in a Frenzy all right?? So what did ya take??:lol:


My man Hatton is far better than gatti ever was.

Yes, Floyds the favorite and has stylistic advantages but this aint Gatti and Hatton WILL NOT BE AFRAID!!!

He might lose, but he will certainly give a better account of himself than Arturo "I shit my pants" Gatti.

[bigtime9]

He won because he was King's boy

Who else can QUIT and still win the fight??

If you QUIT that is a TKO...not a W I N

I bet you'd sing a defferent tune if they gave Randall the fight after QUITTING

brooklyn give it up you just got fucking owned:rofl

[Supreme]

This fight will look like when Floyd fought Jesus Chavez.

I 100% agree with you mate, it will be an almost carbon copy imho!

Im from england and i will be supporting hatton BUT he is very wreckless and was exposed against collazo later on and was very tired against Juan Urango later on aswell, he wont fight Junior witter because witter has an awkward south paw style which hatton strugles with and witter is also alot faster. I can see FMJ handing a serious beating out if hatton doesnt come with a game plan.. maybe he turns up and will show better punching power that will thwart flloyd who knows??

its going to be the bomb!!

[C Money]

brooklyn give it up you just got fucking owned:rofl

STFU BITCHTIME!!!!

You're picture is in the dictionary next to the definition of OWNED:yep

[brooklyn1550]

brooklyn give it up you just got fucking owned:rofl

You're a joke

[brooklyn1550]

Hearns was a great fighter but I believe Hatton would dance his way to a win,coz the guy hits and doesnt get hit

:huh

[brooklyn1550]

I bet you'd sing a defferent tune if they gave Randall the fight after QUITTING

I wouldn't care if Randall won in the same manner Chavez did

[boxingabc123]

I think Floyd has to be a big favorite to win this fight.

[C Money]

I wont get personal with you mate,thats fine you entitled to your own opinion.
Numbers dont lie,Tzyu was 63yrs old and had not fought in 2 years
Gatti was said to be thunder who would smash Floyd,yes Gatti had lost but only Floyd made him look ordinary,even Hatton wanted to fight Gatti at that time until when Gatti lost to Baldomir.
Come Decmebr 8 you will be eating those words,hope you remember what you have been writting

Numbers dont lie, but 63 is an exaggeration:yep

I doubt you actually read and comprehend what I've written, because its one thing to pick floyd and another to compare Hatton and gatti.

Also?? i said floyds the favorite.

[Robbi]

Hearns would have dealt with Mayweather, and Hatton would have been no more than a punching bag for him.

[brooklyn1550]

Hearns would have dealt with Mayweather, and Hatton would have been no more than a punching bag for him.

Spot on as usual

[Flatlander]

Right?

Mayweather would have to have the worst night of his life to lose to Hatton.

[Flatlander]

Hearns would have dealt with Mayweather, and Hatton would have been no more than a punching bag for him.

Just like he did Sugar Ray Leonard right?

[C Money]

Hearns would have dealt with Mayweather, and Hatton would have been no more than a punching bag for him.


Mayweather wouldnt have ever agreed to fight hearns:nono

Because Hearns would have KTFO Primadonna boy:good

[brooklyn1550]

Just like he did Sugar Ray Leonard right?

Floyd Mayweather and Sugar Ray Leonard are much different fighters....Leonard was more proven and better at 147

[C Money]

Guys dont forget Mayweather stiil has to be pushed to the limit,we havent seen it yet,he has made it all look easy so far

yeah..OK!!!

castillo in the first fight and DLh werent EASY.

[C Money]

Floyd has got better defence than Leornard


Less offense, heart, and will:yep

Floyd would shit his pants if Hearns were prime right now. Fuck floyd doesnt even want to consider Williams, he damn sure wouldnt face Hearns:good

[brooklyn1550]

As great as Floyd Mayweather is, it's fair to say he's not as good as Ray Leonard at 147.

[brooklyn1550]

Sometimes people tend to honour the retired and the dead more than the ones doing things now.I might be wrong but I think Floyd took the movement of Robinson and improved the defense and brought his own style which will be studied for centuries to come

A fight I would have loved to see is Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker

[C Money]

Very few people wud consider Williams,that guy is gonna be poor,he is too good for his own good,all he is gonna do is mandatories but noone will want to meet him with those mile long arms.
Floyd would beat Williams though,its only that there is no money yet for Floyd,in that fight.
People dont learn remember people used to say Floyd was ducking Margarito,realistically my grandmother would beat Margarito on points

:lol:

I so love floyd groupies:rofl


Examine what you just said, will ya??

leonard took on Hearns who was/is 3 times(atleast) better than Williams but Floyd's got better D and its OK not to fight Williams??

:lol:

Floyd doesnt compare to guy's like SRR and SRL and has a long way to go before he enters the realm of discussion:yep

[JAM Killer]

Floyd is definitely the favorite. That much is clear.

[codeman99998]

I just wanted to make a thread that finally got replies...

LOL! I WIN!

[psychopath]

Right?

Oh definitely. :D

The odd makers would be completely foolish to put an undefeated 5 divisional champ as an underdog against a moving up fighter.:yep

[codeman99998]

:lol:

I so love floyd groupies:rofl


Examine what you just said, will ya??

leonard took on Hearns who was/is 3 times(atleast) better than Williams but Floyd's got better D and its OK not to fight Williams??

:lol:

Floyd doesnt compare to guy's like SRR and SRL and has a long way to go before he enters the realm of discussion:yep

I'd pick both Hearns and Leonard to KO Mayweather but...

Let's be real. Mayweather is PART OF THE DISCUSSION. He has proved THAT much at least. Not that he is AS good as, but that he is worth talking about when we talk about the greatest WWs of all time.

[brooklyn1550]

I just wanted to make a thread that finally got replies...



Well you certainly achieved that:bbb

[Toopretty]

The whole thing with Hatton that I wonder about..is what is he going to do on the outside...I mean he has 0 outside game ..he HAS to smother guys to win..and his holding is frequent and used as a tactic to not get beaten up on the outside....I just think floyd will bring the fight where hatton dont want to be and when Hatton tries to clinch a backing up mayweather he will get tagged and floyd will get away and if hatton gets tired which HE DOES...he is toast.

[roly]

To me Mayweather is the best.I will be the most excited man come december 8 because I'm sick and tired of seeing mediocre boxers like Hatton being hailed as great.We know the real boxers never get the hype,people like Witter,.
I only appreciate quality and this will only make me like Mayweathert more (not because he will have beaten an inferior boxer) but he will have preached boxing to the unknowledgeable people in Britain who are always fooled by the press

so hatton is mediocre, but witter is a real boxer. you're a dick

[john b]

Witter a real boxer don't make me laugh the way he fights makes me want to go to sleep. I mean at least the hatton fight with castillo was entertaining I mean you had the atmopshere and one of those sickening shots. Yes I am an hatton fan as pirhana as suggested on many occassions when we have disagreed on a certain point but i discredit the fact that he said I wasn't a true boxing fan. Yes PBf is brilliant I just think he bitten of more than he can chew especially now he his in srictly come dancing.

[maracho]

Now this is an interesting fight and I hope Floyed stays on his new found path.

[C Money]

The whole thing with Hatton that I wonder about..is what is he going to do on the outside...I mean he has 0 outside game ..he HAS to smother guys to win..and his holding is frequent and used as a tactic to not get beaten up on the outside....I just think floyd will bring the fight where hatton dont want to be and when Hatton tries to clinch a backing up mayweather he will get tagged and floyd will get away and if hatton gets tired which HE DOES...he is toast.


Much love bro, but hatton wont stay on the outside:nono

You're rightthough in that regard, on the outside?? Its Floyd all day long. Thats precisely why ricky's style is what it is. Cant blame him, a fighter is going to do what he does best.

Thing is??? Where has floyd been active enough to impose you're scenario??? Its been A LONG TIME!!!!

Its a see saw and whoever gets more time in their element?? Is the winner!!!

Hatton will not go quietly into that good night:nono

[thesandman]

I
Let's be real. Mayweather is PART OF THE DISCUSSION. He has proved THAT much at least. Not that he is AS good as, but that he is worth talking about when we talk about the greatest WWs of all time.

I don't believe anyone can be considered to be one of the greatest WW's of all time, when they have only fought:


Sharmba Mitchell (at what age? - 35, 36?)
Zab Judah - straight after a terrible, terrible loss
Baldo

And now, fighting the best 140 fighter out his weight class.

at Welter.

Dozens and dozens of guys could have done that at welter.

[Alo2006]

Those counter rights would have stopped lil Ricketty:deal


Indeed! :yep

[codeman99998]

I don't believe anyone can be considered to be one of the greatest WW's of all time, when they have only fought:


Sharmba Mitchell (at what age? - 35, 36?)
Zab Judah - straight after a terrible, terrible loss
Baldo

And now, fighting the best 140 fighter out his weight class.

at Welter.

Dozens and dozens of guys could have done that at welter.
I think you misinterpreted what I said.

I don't think he is the greatest welterweight of all time. I don't think most people think he is the greatest welterweight of all time.

When we talk about matchups between the greatest heavyweights, people will throw in Frazier, people will throw in Foreman, people will throw in Bowe as names for hypothetical fights when we are talking about HW greats. Most people agree that neither of those three are the greatest HW ever, but that they deserve to be in the discussion, especially when talking about hypothetical matchups.

I think Mayweather deserves to be a part of the discussion is all.

Not all of Mayweather's opponents have been world beaters, but he does have a pretty damn good resume. Also, the WAY in which he beats his, admittedly not always the best, opposition is incredible. Typically he TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY outclasses his opposition, which is very important.

[bigtime9]

As great as Floyd Mayweather is, it's fair to say he's not as good as Ray Leonard at 147.


and ray is not as good as floyd at 130:lol: this is floyd's 4th weight class, did ray dominate 168:rofl

[thesandman]

I think you misinterpreted what I said.

I don't think he is the greatest welterweight of all time. I don't think most people think he is the greatest welterweight of all time.
...

I think Mayweather deserves to be a part of the discussion is all.

Based on what is my point? 3 fights against average fighters? (By average I mean championship level, not average overall)

He LOOKS like you possibly could include him in the discussion - but there's really no convincing counter arguments for him. You can't say BASED ON xyz that he did, then I think.. like you can with Hearns, SRL etc.

He has done nothing at welterweight to convince me he should be part of that discussion. Nor at light welter either to be honest.

[thesandman]

and ray is not as good as floyd at 130:lol: this is floyd's 4th weight class, did ray dominate 168:rofl

Having 3 fights against chumps hardly classes as "dominating" either.

[Blacc Jesus]

Yessir.

[gallagher430]

Hatton did break 4 ribs with that punch on castillo, an average fighter can beat a good one with the perfect shot... not saying hatton is average, or that it will happen, but it always could.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Numbers dont lie,Tzyu was 63yrs old and had not fought in 2 years

:patsch

not this stupid shit again.

kostya and ricky fought in june of 2005. tszyus last bout was in november of 2004 where he impressively demolished sharmba mitchell in three rounds.

next you'll be wheeling out the 'oh but it was 2am!!' excuse. next time, research your facts before you start forcing your agenda you dumb fuck.

[Ambition_Def]

Well, venue DOES matter in this case. Had this fight been in Manchester I'd have closed the book on a Mayweather win long ago.

Ricky Hatton is going to have some difficulty I think playing by the rules in Nevada. They will basically ensure that he cannot smother Floyd. We see it all the time, which is a constant break of the action/distance by the ref.

This is all business by Mayweather and he knows what he is doing. Hatton's best chance is to fight off of his chest, smother anything Mayweather can do and pound him out.

I just don't see the Nevada officials letting him do that. That said, I'll go with the upset anyways. Hatton IS faster than DLH and will jump in and get Mayweather where DLH couldn't. Even if the ref constantly breaks them up I like Hatton's chances at getting in and landing clean before that happens.

[roly]

yes I have one so
Thats a fact and it cant be changed,Witter wud blow Wicky Hatton's beer belly anytime

so if witter is better than hatton why has he only just won a world title at 32, whereas hatton has won numerous titles at two different weights and is the unbeaten 140lb ring champion. i'm not disputing he's a good fighter but not as good as hatton.