Worst Nuthugger on ESB!!!

[MSTR]

You decide...

[MSTR]

Multiple choice as well. At this stage, I am pretty close to ticking all the boxes (bar cotto) :)

[Scar]

Calzaghe in my opinion, some are just taking it WAY too far.

[vonBanditos]

It goes in cycles.

[MSTR]

Calzaghe in my opinion, some are just taking it WAY too far.
Have a look at the Aussie forum after a Mundine fight and I think you might change your mind. Mundine p4p no.1, fastest hands of all time, Mundine to KO Lacy in 6, to KO Kessler. Greatest athlete of all time ect. Its mind boggling.

[Marnoff]

A lot of people turn into Pacquaio "nuthuggers" because they hate Floyd and need a posterboy - anyone - to put in top spot just to say he isn't. Pacquaio got my vote. Klitschko also, just based on the fact that people believe Vitaly can still unify with a broken body.

[Scar]

Have a look at the Aussie forum after a Mundine fight and I think you might change your mind. Mundine p4p no.1, fastest hands of all time, Mundine to KO Lacy in 6, to KO Kessler. Greatest athlete of all time ect. Its mind boggling.

I've seen it and it's not as ridiculous as Calzaghe ones. At least for Mundine it's mostly a bunch of loyal Australian fans supporting their fighter, quite similar to Hatton and none are too ridiculous. Calzaghe on the other hand it's just laughable sometimes.

[Dantes]

Gotta be Calzaghe at the moment.

[Scar]

Calzaghe's fans just defend him against absurd accusations.

Kessler is the most hyped fighter on this site.

Nothing even close to how hyped Calzaghe is over here.

[Marnoff]

Have a look at the Aussie forum after a Mundine fight and I think you might change your mind. Mundine p4p no.1, fastest hands of all time, Mundine to KO Lacy in 6, to KO Kessler. Greatest athlete of all time ect. Its mind boggling.

That's probably why I haven't noticed them. That sounds extreme.

[Jose FM]

JoseFM with Oscar De La Hoya, Oscar has never and will never do anything wrong in his eyes, inside or outside the ring.
Haha, thats funny, i guess i would be considered a nuthugger. But hey at least my guy has fought worthy champions, your guys a pot-shotter (Gayrunner) that has cherry-picked guys all his career! BTW youre wrong, Oscars singing career was horrible at best.

[MSTR]

That's probably why I haven't noticed them. That sounds extreme.
It is. Wait until he fights next time and have a look. The name slinging matches over Mundine in the Aus forum are legendary.

[Amsterdam]

Nothing even close to how hyped Calzaghe is over here.

The only thing we claim is that nobody beats Calzaghe in history, what is extreme about that?:yep

[Marnoff]

Haha, thats funny, i guess i would be considered a nuthugger. But hey at least my guy has fought worthy champions, your guys a pot-shotter (Gayrunner) that has cherry-picked guys all his career! BTW youre wrong, Oscars singing career was horrible at best.

The same Floyd that beat Oscar?

[bigtime9]

Haha, thats funny, i guess i would be considered a nuthugger. But hey at least my guy has fought worthy champions, your guys a pot-shotter (Gayrunner) that has cherry-picked guys all his career! BTW youre wrong, Oscars singing career was horrible at best


now you a non-fighter will determine for the rest of esb who is a worthy champion for floyd to face:lol: kick rocks kid you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about:deal

[C Money]

Gotta be Floyd fans, IMO:good

My reasoning?? They are content(the majority at least, some are somewhat rational but they are the minority) to hype, revere, and praise floyd rather than see him define that reality.


I'm willing to one day accept Floyd for whatever he PROVES TO BE:yep But they are content to anoint without challenge. This is something I find totally unacceptable.


Many of the other groups mentioned might show insane fervor, but I dont hear all the EXCUSES offered as to why those fighters dont NEED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THE TOP OPPONENTS!!! :nono

[C Money]

now you a non-fighter will determine for the rest of esb who is a worthy champion for floyd to face:lol: kick rocks kid you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about:deal


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

need I say more????



:rofl :rofl :rofl


Damn they didnt give you a higher med dose this evening!!!!!

Oh, well, you just help illustrate my point.

Keep up the ridiculous work:good

Never mind the OBVIOUS:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jose FM]

I think there has been some kind of mistake Jose. I am not a Mayweather fan, never have been never will be even though I like to see him fight. My Top 5 favorites look like this

Whitaker
Trinidad
Norris
Holyfield
Taylor (Meldric)
I don't know where you got the Floyd thing from but you have had plenty of insults for Tito since your stay here so let's start over and then you can insult him instead just like you do for all of Oscar's opponents:good
Yeah, i dislike Tito too, just from what he says, his fights are exciting. I guess im just bitter over his loss with DLH, but get pure pleasure from seeing him get dominated by Hopkins and Wright, and will be happy when Jones knocks him out actually...

But really im a boxing fan. With favorites and not-so favorites.

[Jose FM]

now you a non-fighter will determine for the rest of esb who is a worthy champion for floyd to face:lol: kick rocks kid you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about:deal
Oh yeah and you do. The best guy hes fought in 3 years was a very past prime DLH, and still maintained his p4p status, how does that work? Gatti, Bruseles, Corley, Judah, Baldobum, Mitchell, all are bums! And yet hes the p4p? Gimme a break!

[4Rounder]

The Flips or Pac's Groupie, however you want to call these shitheads, these guys make it hard to want to enjoy Pacquiao the fighter.

[Thread Stealer]

Klit-Lickers are the worst.

Oscarsexuals should be nominated.

If Trinidad manages to beat Roy in January, the Trinidiots will come out. The Tito fanatics circa 2000-01 were among the worst ever.

[bigtime9]

Jeebus everyone knows a runner when they see one!

Can you explain why people left their seats in the Baldomir fight? :smoke

did you see people leaving their seats:deal or where you going by what that biased fuck larry merchant said.

[Jose FM]

Gotta be Floyd fans, IMO:good

My reasoning?? They are content(the majority at least, some are somewhat rational but they are the minority) to hype, revere, and praise floyd rather than see him define that reality.


I'm willing to one day accept Floyd for whatever he PROVES TO BE:yep But they are content to anoint without challenge. This is something I find totally unacceptable.


Many of the other groups mentioned might show insane fervor, but I dont hear all the EXCUSES offered as to why those fighters dont NEED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THE TOP OPPONENTS!!! :nono
Great Post.:good

[C Money]

did you see people leaving their seats:deal or where you going by what that biased fuck larry merchant said.

Anything Merchants ever said is more reliable than anything you ever said:yep


Oh, and I cant stand Merchant either:nono

You are my shining star:lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigtime9]

My reasoning?? They are content(the majority at least, some are somewhat rational but they are the minority) to hype, revere, and praise floyd rather than see him define that reality.


I'm willing to one day accept Floyd for whatever he PROVES TO BE:yep But they are content to anoint without challenge. This is something I find totally unacceptable.


Many of the other groups mentioned might show insane fervor, but I dont hear all the EXCUSES offered as to why those fighters dont NEED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THE TOP OPPONENTS!!!

ok so you're saying these were not top fighters when floyd fought them:

130- genaro hernandez ring/lineal/wbc champ
135- Jose Luis castillo #1 ranked by ring wbc lineal champ
140- Arturo Gatti #1 by ranked by ring wbc champ
147- carlos baldomir ring/lineal/wbc champ
154- oscar de la hoya #3 ranked by ring wbc champ

are we missing something here:blood

[bigtime9]

There were vacant seats, are you even disputing the fact that people were disgusted by the sheer cuntery put on show by Floyd Mayweather in his last two fights?

where? I have the fight recorded and the place was full to capacity, at what time did HBO show vacant seats:rofl

[bigtime9]

Oh yeah and you do. The best guy hes fought in 3 years was a very past prime DLH, and still maintained his p4p status, how does that work? Gatti, Bruseles, Corley, Judah, Baldobum, Mitchell, all are bums! And yet hes the p4p? Gimme a break!


once again:

130- genaro hernandez ring/lineal/wbc champ
135- Jose Luis castillo #1 ranked by ring wbc lineal champ
140- Arturo Gatti #1 by ranked by ring wbc champ
147- carlos baldomir ring/lineal/wbc champ
154- oscar de la hoya #3 ranked by ring wbc champ

how is it that the ring had these bums ranked so highly. either the ring is stupid or you are:deal don't worry I'll take my chances with the ring on this issue:rofl

[bigtime9]

Not Gatti ! Are you crazy ? Corrales and Chaves yes ! Floyd hasn't fought anyone good in my opinion since he left 135 . Hatton will be his first live , hungry opponent since 135 :goodBy the way those rankings mean shit :hi:

at least the ring has rankings you have what again:blood

[C Money]

once again:

130- genaro hernandez ring/lineal/wbc champ
135- Jose Luis castillo #1 ranked by ring wbc lineal champ
140- Arturo Gatti #1 by ranked by ring wbc champ
147- carlos baldomir ring/lineal/wbc champ
154- oscar de la hoya #3 ranked by ring wbc champ

how is it that the ring had these bums ranked so highly. either the ring is tupid or you are:deal don't worry I'll take my chances with the ring on this issue:rofl

Who was ring CHAMP at 40???


How is beating Hernad3ez in the last fight of a 14 year career, exactly legendary??

How is DLH more significant than SSM or a host of others???


How about YOU GET SOME NEW FUCKING MATERIAL BITCH BOY!!!!!

[Fab2333]

Oh yeah and you do. The best guy hes fought in 3 years was a very past prime DLH, and still maintained his p4p status, how does that work? Gatti, Bruseles, Corley, Judah, Baldobum, Mitchell, all are bums! And yet hes the p4p? Gimme a break!

Jose you cant say that man the Delahoya fight was a good win, Gatti was ranked #1 at the time. Baldomir was the champ at the time, and Judah was a good win as well. You cant say he is a bum win for Floyd, but it is a good win for Cotto in many peoples eyes.

I think the worst is the Calzaghe and Floyd fans. I dont have a problem with anyone having a favorite fighter, but sometimes from both camps that s**t clouds their judgment to see logically. I remember seeing some1 post that Floyd can beat Wladimir Klitchko (sorry if i mispelled the last name) but you get my point that s**t is plain ridiculous right there. Ans I like Floyd as a fighter, but sometimes s**t people are saying is dumb.

THe calzaghe fans are the same, some of them at least.

[Jose FM]

ok so you're saying these were not top fighters when floyd fought them:

130- genaro hernandez ring/lineal/wbc champ
135- Jose Luis castillo #1 ranked by ring wbc lineal champ
140- Arturo Gatti #1 by ranked by ring wbc champ
147- carlos baldomir ring/lineal/wbc champ
154- oscar de la hoya #3 ranked by ring wbc champ

are we missing something here:blood
Yeah, Genero Hernandez was DLH & MOsleys leftovers and too old at that point. JLC beat Floyd the first time so as far im concerned its still 1-1. Gatti was nothing more than a brawler and was a fighter but not elite just a fan favorite cause took lots of punishment. Baldobum was had 9 losses on his resume and was lucky that Clottey got a DQ'd against him cause he was clearly winning the fight. Judah was a has been. Finally , he barely beat a past prime DLH, that had fought 2x in nearly 3 years, and got a SD.

Let me ask you this... Do you think any of those fighters up there (except DLH) actually has a chance against Mosley, Cotto, Williams, even Margo? The answer is no, so why isnt the p4p fighting the best fighters out there now?

[bigtime9]

I saw lotsa vacant seats. You on the other hand, can't see anything because Floyd's balls are blocking your view. :hi:

which round did HBO show these vacant seats:lol: keep it up:thumbsup

[Napoleon]

Fucking Cotto fans.

[bigtime9]

How is beating Hernad3ez in the last fight of a 14 year career, exactly legendary??


hernandez was undefeated at 130 and was only 31 years old:deal

How is DLH more significant than SSM or a host of others???


please name this host:deal

How about YOU GET SOME NEW FUCKING MATERIAL BITCH BOY!!!!!

you are my material bitch made:deal

[Jose FM]

Jose you cant say that man the Delahoya fight was a good win, Gatti was ranked #1 at the time. Baldomir was the champ at the time, and Judah was a good win as well. You cant say he is a bum win for Floyd, but it is a good win for Cotto in many peoples eyes.

I think the worst is the Calzaghe and Floyd fans. I dont have a problem with anyone having a favorite fighter, but sometimes from both camps that s**t clouds their judgment to see logically. I remember seeing some1 post that Floyd can beat Wladimir Klitchko (sorry if i mispelled the last name) but you get my point that s**t is plain ridiculous right there. Ans I like Floyd as a fighter, but sometimes s**t people are saying is dumb.

THe calzaghe fans are the same, some of them at least.
I guess the DLH win was a good one, but a parttime fighter is not supposed to do so well against the BEST fighter on the planet, is he? And frankly, Gatti was not a good boxer and we all know it, he best win was against Ward, hardly someone to build your resume on. Those Ring rankings were a popularity contest. Baldobum was a glorified Journeyman who beat an under-prepared and over-rated Judah.

And the diference btw the Judah win for Mayweather and Cotto, are A. Judah won more rounds off Mayweather than he did of Cotto and B. Judah was stopped by Cotto not by Mayweather.

[Jose FM]

hernandez was undefeated at 130 and was only 31 years old:deal
No he wasnt, DLH taxed that A$$ WAYYYYY back :patsch god your an idiot.

[bigtime9]

Yeah, Genero Hernandez was DLH & MOsleys leftovers and too old at that point.

chicanito did not fight mosley you stupid fuck:lol: he did fight hoya at 135:nut how is 31 too old floyd retired the great chicanito, after the floyd fight they found bleeding on his brain and he had to retire. floyd was the only fighter in 14 years to beat genaro at 130:deal


JLC beat Floyd the first time so as far im concerned its still 1-1.

what do the record books say:deal


Gatti was nothing more than a brawler and was a fighter but not elite just a fan favorite cause took lots of punishment.

gatti was on a 5 fight win streak shit for brains why wouldn't ring rank him highly at 140:deal


Baldobum was had 9 losses on his resume and was lucky that Clottey got a DQ'd against him cause he was clearly winning the fight. Judah was a has been. Finally , he barely beat a past prime DLH, that had fought 2x in nearly 3 years, and got a SD.


baldomir hadn't lost in 7 years:deal


Let me ask you this... Do you think any of those fighters up there (except DLH) actually has a chance against Mosley, Cotto, Williams, even Margo? The answer is no, so why isnt the p4p fighting the best fighters out there now?

of course gatti has no chance against williams he is a 140lber. gatti was ranked highly at 140 not 147 fuck face:lol:

[bigtime9]

No he wasnt, DLH taxed that A$$ WAYYYYY back :patsch god your an idiot.

hoya beat chicanito at 135 not 130 learn how to fucking read:lol:

[Fab2333]

I guess the DLH win was a good one, but a parttime fighter is not supposed to do so well against the BEST fighter on the planet, is he? And frankly, Gatti was not a good boxer and we all know it, he best win was against Ward, hardly someone to build your resume on. Those Ring rankings were a popularity contest. Baldobum was a glorified Journeyman who beat an under-prepared and over-rated Judah.

And the diference btw the Judah win for Mayweather and Cotto, are A. Judah won more rounds off Mayweather than he did of Cotto and B. Judah was stopped by Cotto not by Mayweather.

But the partime fighter is naturally bigger, more experienced. This was floyd 1st fight at 154, and even though he didnt g2 154, he weighed in 150, Oscar was at 160 somethin, so no matter what that has to be taken into consideration. And its not like oscar is a total bum. Oscar made the ring smaller, chose the gloves, weight. All that g2 b taken into consideration. I kno Gatti was a bum, I been sayin that 4ever, dude dont have any boxing skill. but you cant fault floyd 4 that, he was ranked #1 at the time so he did what he had 2 do. Same thing with Baldomir, cant fault Floyd 4 that, he fought the champ.
A W is a W in my book, thats the name of the game Jose. And its not like Floyd looked horrible in the fight, he looked good. He focus mainly on the body the 1st 4 or 5 rounds, and then Judah got tired, and then he proceeded to whoop him. I think it was a equal win for both, good win for Floyd, good win for Cotto.

[bigtime9]

Even if I told you, the only round that you would care to see are Floyd's balls

ok which round did hbo show the empty seats:deal

[C Money]

hernandez was undefeated at 130 and was only 31 years old:deal



please name this host:deal



you are my material bitch made:deal


iT WAS THE LAST FIGHT OF A 14 YEAR CAREER AND DLH HAD BEAT HIM VICIOUSLY PRIOR!!!!


SSM, Cotto, Williams, Tszyu, Hatton, Wright, Margarito, or Cintron


I am Bitchtime 9 Killer and you are a running fucking JOKE:yep

Duran and SRl were UNIFIED and I'm still waiting for you to explain why Floyd chose 147 over 140 to fight Hatton, thus further away from his "natural weight" of 130 as you claim.:lol:

[Jose FM]

hoya beat chicanito at 135 not 130 learn how to fucking read:lol:
After this im done with your dumbass. So what youre saying is that if you lose in one division where the competition is stiffer and move down or up makes you a better fighter historically? Any top Welter can move up to 154 and dominate, but you dont see them making excuse for not fighting the best. Lastly when did rings rankings become so golden? The best fighters at 140 were Hatton and Tzysu, hell you can even say Torres and Cotto were better than Gatti.

[4Rounder]

No you just hate Pinoys you fucking racist. :twisted:
:patsch
Fuck off bitch, I'm no racist.

Its you motherfucking nuthugging flips I regard as clowns here to make everyone laugh. :lol:

[Alo2006]

Calzaghe's fans just defend him against absurd accusations.

Kessler is the most hyped fighter on this site.

Nope, Pavlik is the most hyped fighter on here.

[TheGreat]

ODLH by far.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Pac...
Calzaghe...
Mayweather..

In that order.

[Lance_Uppercut]

ESB NUTHUGGER HOF
Bigtime9
Pimp C
Radar
Johnco
domngo
Pacdbest
Amsterdam
China_Joe_hands
Isal
Widdo_wmaker
Dr. Z
Shamrock
2smart4u
(and about 35 other new Mayweather fans we've seen come and go the past year...)

:yep:deal

[theDUD3]

lol! i'm a pinoy and a pac fan but after what i see here on esb on a daily basis i just can't ignore the fact that, yes, some pac fans are way over the top.

paumanhin mga kababayan pero talagang totoo ito sa ilan sa ating mga pac fans.

peace!

[bigtime9]

Any top Welter can move up to 154 and dominate, but you dont see them making excuse for not fighting the best.

please name 1 welter in the past 10 years that has dominated 154 and 147:rofl and let me clarify what I mean by dominate:deal has had 5 defenses of the 147 lineal title and 5 defenses of the lineal title at 154:hey


Lastly when did rings rankings become so golden?

the ring has been around alot longer than you. are you an organization or just a fucking punk on a keyboard talking shit about fighjters you don't like:deal

The best fighters at 140 were Hatton and Tzysu, hell you can even say Torres and Cotto were better than Gatti.

gatti was on a 5 fight win streak that means he hadn't lost at 140 in over 2 1/2 years. are you saying that doesn't count:deal torres and cotto were not even on gatti's level in 2002-2005. cotto just started fighting in 2001:deal

[rendog67]

thats a tough one it changes all the time but i would say a tie between calzaghe and pac

[psychopath]

Nothing even close to how hyped Calzaghe is over here.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:good

Calzaghe Fans! ! !

[grayggr]

ESB NUTHUGGER HOF
Bigtime9
Pimp C
Radar
Johnco
domngo
Pacdbest
Amsterdam
China_Joe_hands
Isal
Widdo_wmaker
Dr. Z
Shamrock
2smart4u
(and about 35 other new Mayweather fans we've seen come and go the past year...)

:yep:deal

Agreed.

[T.C.W]

Polish boxing fans by far.

[lillarry]

Pac Fans. Do they even know any other fighters besides Pac:huh

[dragosuhail]

mundine fans. seriously he is the fighter on this poll who has achieved the least in this sport, and yet still compares himself to Ali etc.

hell his fans call him the Black Superman. Only he's more white than black lol.

anyway now that his career is virtually over, expect to see his fans crow til the end of time how his improving at a scary rate, and that on his best night NO ONE can ever beat him! :lol:

and what makes them worst is they refuse to see he has the character and charisma of a turd. some of the things he said or done:

said the people deserved to die on 9/11.
punched kessler after the break, and also at the end of one of the middle rounds.
said the football selectors were all racist because they didn't pick him to represent australia in the footie. (yet one of the boardmembers was more black than him!).
before his bout with sven ottke (showing zero respect as usual): "he punches like a woman". :rofl

can't remember the other ones but there was some real corkers.

and through it all, the nuthuggers lapped it all up and said what a demon he was in the ring, and a great humble guy out of it!

hell, they sound serious when explaining how sven okkte could possibly knock out their man for 4 minutes stone cold!!! "you see it's all in the way the temple nerves work" LOL

[Relentless]

Fucking Cotto fans.

:| :|

hey Vladik stop crying.

[Ilesey]

I went for Klitschko fans. Floyd fans are not too far behind.

[SteveO]

Floyd fans and the fans who I guess nuthug anything anti-floyd. "Floyd Gayweather" was funny the first time i heard it. It's worn a little thin.

[Sug3]

Even if I told you, the only round that you would care to see are Floyd's balls! :gayfight:rofl ,on a serious note bigtime9 wins the nuthugger award,damn his obsession for floyd is sick.

[Theo]

how come my lot arnt reprisented? ;)

us hatton fans can be royally stupid you know ;)

hehehe.

/Theo

[China_hand_Joe]

Well you have the Pacman fans and the Calzaghe fans both claiming their fighter is one of the very best ever.

Unlike the correct Calzaghe fans however, Pacman fans have no real case on the same level. So taking into account their fighter's abilities, they are the most extreme.

I'm not sure you can really describe Calzaghe fans as nuthuggers, for the same reasons that Roger Federer fans are not nuthuggers.

[BewareofDawg]

.
This Guy! :good

[MSTR]

:rofl ,on a serious note bigtime9 wins the nuthugger award,damn his obsession for floyd is sick.

:deal

[Boro chris]

China hand Joe makes some utterly ridiculous claims for his boy, but at least isn't obnoxious about it and he also argues his extreme nut hugging with intelligence. A bit of leftfield thinking here is allways worth a look.

[Thread Stealer]

Klit-Lickers are the worst.


Comments like these are why Klitschko fanatics are the worst.

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Vitali never truly lost, not once.


Vitali's biggest win was getting robbed in the Lewis fight.

[Boro chris]

Klit fans are the worst. But as a Lewis fan I may be biased.:D

[ApatheticLeader]

Together, Kessler and Calzaghe fans on here are the cause of seriously seismic nuthugging. Mundine fans are awful, but there are less of them.

The worst single nuthugger though is PacDBest.

[ApatheticLeader]

China hand Joe makes some utterly ridiculous claims for his boy, but at least isn't obnoxious about it and he also argues his extreme nut hugging with intelligence. A bit of leftfield thinking here is allways worth a look.
I agree with this. His brand of nuthugging is intelligent and actually bloody funny at times.

[C Money]

please name 1 welter in the past 10 years that has dominated 154 and 147:rofl and let me clarify what I mean by dominate:deal has had 5 defenses of the 147 lineal title and 5 defenses of the lineal title at 154:hey




the ring has been around alot longer than you. are you an organization or just a fucking punk on a keyboard talking shit about fighjters you don't like:deal



gatti was on a 5 fight win streak that means he hadn't lost at 140 in over 2 1/2 years. are you saying that doesn't count:deal torres and cotto were not even on gatti's level in 2002-2005. cotto just started fighting in 2001:deal


let me clarify what I mean by dominate:deal has had 5 defenses of the 147 lineal title and 5 defenses of the lineal title at 154:hey

Floyds had ZERO DEFENSES at 47 or 54, so wtf does that have to do with anything??:lol:

[Quik]

I havent been here for long but since im there i really think Calzaghe's fans are the worst.

[box03]

Klit brother fans I think are the most delusional about there gay fighters.

[andyZOR]

Kessler is the most hyped fighter on this site.

yes...

[GARCIA]

The PAC nutthuggery is endless.

[bigeddie27]

calzaghe fans are the most annoying on this board hands down. And expect it to get extremely bad if he beats kessler, which i honestly think he will.

[Toopretty]

See, I dont think the Floyd nuthugger is that bad. They say he can beat so and so and are probably right. They admit that Hearns would be Floyds nightmare. We also concur that Williams with his high output and southpaw stance will give him problems. We also agree that Cotto is no push over for anyone and would be a good fight as well as Shane. We know Floyd is going to fight one of those guys next year. On another note..the Calzaghe nut hugger is a special breed b/c they play mind games and really try to convince normal people that Calzaghe's resume is better then it appears which is bullshit by any good-great fighters standards. They try to say he or Kessler would beat prime great fighters that were vastly more skilled and had more dimensions. PAC FANS ARE THE ROOT OF ALL THAT IS EVIL. THEY ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AND PUT PACMAN AND SUGAR RAY ROBINSON IN THE SAME SENTENCE. THERE IS NOTHING MORE LAUGHABLE THEN THEM GIVING KUDOS TO A GUY THAT MOVED UP A FEW WEIGHTS(THOUGH HIS ASS GROWN OUT OF THE FLYWEIGHTS AND WEIGHS AT WELTER ON SOME FIGHTS) THERE IS NO NUTHUGGER THAT CAN COMPARE. Klitites are not as bad anymore, though they think that Wlad has not reached his peak even though there is nothing he does different in every single fight. I can predict his fight without even watching. "Oh look he thrown an uppercut...Add that to Klits vast array of offensive arsenal." I mean its a fucking uppercut...every fighter fighting knows how to throw an uppercut. Just b/c you are used to Wlad throwing the same three punches an uppercut is nothing special. Oscarsexuals like JoseFM are few but they are consistent in there hatred towards Floyd and every Oscar opponent. I think its a man-crush, they may say otherwise. Kessler fans are just as goofy as the Calzaghe fans as they dont know that Calzaghe fans are just fucking with them saying Kessler is very good-great only to make Calzaghes much needed BIG win look better. I can tolerate any other fans. Cotto fans are reasonable. Shane fans are so-so. But thats about it.

[Ambition_Def]

How in the hell are the klit and floyd fans not leading this poll? RIGGED I SAY!

[Toopretty]

How in the hell are the klit and floyd fans not leading this poll? RIGGED I SAY!

Shut up..Pac and Calzaghe fans have reached new nut hugging heights ..that has never been seen before.

[Quik]

Shut up..Pac and Calzaghe fans have reached new nut hugging heights ..that has never been seen before.

Well pray for wins of MAB and Kessler. :D

[C Money]

See, I dont think the Floyd nuthugger is that bad. They say he can beat so and so and are probably right. They admit that Hearns would be Floyds nightmare. We also concur that Williams with his high output and southpaw stance will give him problems. We also agree that Cotto is no push over for anyone and would be a good fight as well as Shane. We know Floyd is going to fight one of those guys next year. On another note..the Calzaghe nut hugger is a special breed b/c they play mind games and really try to convince normal people that Calzaghe's resume is better then it appears which is bullshit by any good-great fighters standards. They try to say he or Kessler would beat prime great fighters that were vastly more skilled and had more dimensions. PAC FANS ARE THE ROOT OF ALL THAT IS EVIL. THEY ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AND PUT PACMAN AND SUGAR RAY ROBINSON IN THE SAME SENTENCE. THERE IS NOTHING MORE LAUGHABLE THEN THEM GIVING KUDOS TO A GUY THAT MOVED UP A FEW WEIGHTS(THOUGH HIS ASS GROWN OUT OF THE FLYWEIGHTS AND WEIGHS AT WELTER ON SOME FIGHTS) THERE IS NO NUTHUGGER THAT CAN COMPARE. Klitites are not as bad anymore, though they think that Wlad has not reached his peak even though there is nothing he does different in every single fight. I can predict his fight without even watching. "Oh look he thrown an uppercut...Add that to Klits vast array of offensive arsenal." I mean its a fucking uppercut...every fighter fighting knows how to throw an uppercut. Just b/c you are used to Wlad throwing the same three punches an uppercut is nothing special. Oscarsexuals like JoseFM are few but they are consistent in there hatred towards Floyd and every Oscar opponent. I think its a man-crush, they may say otherwise. Kessler fans are just as goofy as the Calzaghe fans as they dont know that Calzaghe fans are just fucking with them saying Kessler is very good-great only to make Calzaghes much needed BIG win look better. I can tolerate any other fans. Cotto fans are reasonable. Shane fans are so-so. But thats about it.


Gotta be Floyd fans, IMO:good

My reasoning?? They are content(the majority at least, some are somewhat rational but they are the minority) to hype, revere, and praise floyd rather than see him define that reality.


I'm willing to one day accept Floyd for whatever he PROVES TO BE:yep But they are content to anoint without challenge. This is something I find totally unacceptable.


Many of the other groups mentioned might show insane fervor, but I dont hear all the EXCUSES offered as to why those fighters dont NEED TO ACTUALLY FIGHT THE TOP OPPONENTS!!!


You fall under the group in BOLD. Seriously though, I dont hear Pac fans or any others with MORE EXCUSES why their man shouldnt face top opponents:nono

In you're post, you admit Williams is a CHALLENEGE, that's all the more reason TO FACE THAT MAN, rather than talk his way out of it.

You didnt see SRL talk his way out of Hearns!!

I'll respect Floyd when he PROVES he's the legend ya'll talk him up to be:good

Pac's already faced the top guys and is in search of REMATCHES at the moment. Barrera's first, then JMM if he beats MAB.

[El Bombasto]

bigtime9

[Laydown]

You miss Hattons fans in the poll

[MoaningUrkel]

Albanians

[McGrain]

I'm surprised the Pac fans are leading. They really don't seem that rabid to me at all.

[MoaningUrkel]

Germans.
Nah, don't think so.

[McGrain]

Germans.

:think

[Amsterdam]

I'm surprised the Pac fans are leading. They really don't seem that rabid to me at all.

Who do you find rabid?

[McGrain]

Who do you find rabid?

Klit fans mostly.

And your man of course.

[Amsterdam]

Klit fans mostly.

And your man of course.

How about just straight 'classic boxing' nuthuggers?:yep

[McGrain]

How about just straight 'classic boxing' nuthuggers?:yep

It's a bit broad for me but valid.

[Amsterdam]

It's a bit broad for me but valid.

Cross Trainer admits that he nuthugs Fitzsimmons to unhealthy levels. Why all the hate for China hand Joe in that regard?:D

[McGrain]

Cross Trainer admits that he nuthugs Fitzsimmons to unhealthy levels. Why all the hate for China hand Joe in that regard?:D

CHJ's nuthuggery for Calzaghe isn't my problem with him at all. I love Calzaghe too, I think he's an excellent fighter, though as you know i'm dissapionted in his level of competition. What pisses me of where Joe is concerned is the way he despises the fighters of the past.

My position is this; fighters now and fighters from the 40s have absolute parity. The left hook that Louis threw is the same sort of punch that Lewis threw. Louis is an example of a fighter with really good footwork, but Hopkins has slightly better. Conn on the other hand has better footwork than Louis, Hopkins and possibly any other fighter fighting today. Now, I will tend to pick fighters over the past over ones from now only because there will tend to be more quality in the sum history of a thing than any given singular point (like right now) but I have no problem at all picking Mayweather over Zivic; that is not hard for me, I don't feel that it's betraying my position or any madness like that.

Now, you and CHJ both have a similair position on fighters from the past. They were shit. You or I could beat the best fighters of the 20's with a years training. Now, I find that position ludicrous and laughable. The difference between you? I've seen you engage with the problem, indeed you and I have done so ourselves. He does not engage with the problem - but that still isn't it. You are sincere (though horribly misguided) - CHJ's entire construct is about Calzaghe. His entire position on the history of the sport I love is described by his feelings for Joe and the fact that it allows him to pick Cal over every fighter from the place he calls "the past". That is why it is by far the most all consuming nut-huggery on this board, and that is the answer to your questiong concerning why I don't like him.

Furthermore - have a look at the poll. Calzaghe fans aren't that bad in terms of the poll - but CHJ is a smart, smart guy and his influence is pervasive. I'll confess that my first thought was of him when considering the question. He actually makes it HARDER to like Calzaghe on this board without coming across as a nuthugger. But easier to pick him over Ezzard Charles, which is why I think you've found yourself aligned with him.

[Boyd]

Margo fighters are the worst. they've just shut up since he lost for now.

[Toopretty]

Margo fighters are the worst. they've just shut up since he lost for now.

:good Talk about getting owned..They had a good 2 year most feared welter run...now that he tripped busted his head and is bleeding to death on the curb they have no backbone.

[China_hand_Joe]

Now, you and CHJ both have a similair position on fighters from the past. They were shit. You or I could beat the best fighters of the 20's with a years training. Now, I find that position ludicrous and laughable. The difference between you?

They weren't shit as such. But Montell Griffin is as good as the very, very best back then.

[Ambition_Def]

:good Talk about getting owned..They had a good 2 year most feared welter run...now that he tripped busted his head and is bleeding to death on the curb they have no backbone.

Oh please. You're so full of shit. He lost a close decision to a 6'2 162 lb welterweight on his way up. So what.

His career ain't over. When it is then we can talk.

[DoumB]

pac fans are the most delusional for sure

[cross_trainer]

They weren't shit as such. But Montell Griffin is as good as the very, very best back then.
Why?

[cross_trainer]

Cross Trainer admits that he nuthugs Fitzsimmons to unhealthy levels. Why all the hate for China hand Joe in that regard?:D

It all goes back to a Marciano vs. Fitzsimmons debate involving SuzieQ49, myself, and JimmyShimmy. We ultimately came to the conclusion that Fitzsimmons weighed 167 pounds.

In any event, while I have an affinity for the guy, I try not to let it cloud my judgment too much. Perhaps I overemphasize his abilities within his own weightclass, but I'm pretty sure he loses to most of the heavyweights of the past.

Still looking forward to the Calzaghe/Fitzsimmons debate when it comes. :D

[ApatheticLeader]

Margo fighters are the worst. they've just shut up since he lost for now.Ah, that's a good one :good

[Marc]

Picked Pac fans.

I'm pinoy myself but I cringe when I see certain stuff being said at Pacland. Not to mention some are intentionally being dicks and racists-- came across a youtube video where they call a man a monkey ****** for saying Barrera will beat Pac. Not cool.

[Shamrock]

Lewis Fans

[TheGreat]

Klit fans hands down.

[El Bombasto]

jack presscot, that boy is in love with delahoya

[SugarRay]

You decide...

I don;t know but, there is one fan that stands out and you should have put him on the list by himself...Bigtime9.

[puga_ni_nana]

Picked Pac fans.

I'm pinoy myself but I cringe when I see certain stuff being said at Pacland. Not to mention some are intentionally being dicks and racists-- came across a youtube video where they call a man a monkey ****** for saying Barrera will beat Pac. Not cool.

of course in pacland. but in esb? most pinoys here knows pac's limitations and are quite reasonable. some just try to depend him when some idiots here tends to be racist.

[Marc]

of course in pacland. but in esb? most pinoys here knows pac's limitations and are quite reasonable. some just try to depend him when some idiots here tends to be racist.

Haven't encountered racism directed against pinoys here in ESB, but then again I don't read all the Pac threads.

But again based on my experience, pinoys are the ones who tend to be racist. Just look at the comments here. [Only registered and activated users can see links] Sabhin ba naman hoy negro. :verysad Basta may lahing negro mababa na ang tingin. Look at the half-blacks in Subic and what they go through. Racism is very prevalent in our culture. Disgraceful.

[puga_ni_nana]

Haven't encountered racism directed against pinoys here in ESB, but then again I don't read all the Pac threads.

But again based on my experience, pinoys are the ones who tend to be racist. Just look at the comments here. [Only registered and activated users can see links] Sabhin ba naman hoy negro. :verysad Basta may lahing negro mababa na ang tingin. Look at the half-blacks in Subic and what they go through. Racism is very prevalent in our culture. Disgraceful.

most are decent posters here but i encountered some racist posters here like rebe1 and one polish dude.

i know what you mean and it really is a disgrace. but i think some of those pinoys are those without proper education or kids. but it is a different matter when you are a grown man and have a degree and still you overlook on other people just because of the color of their skin.

[bandeedo]

jack presscot, that boy is in love with delahoya
i thought i was the only one who saw this. that inner struggle going on inside him sometimes makes him sound completely irrational.

[Robbi]

Tyson nuthuggers are the worst. Period.

The worst single nuthugger I have came across: PacDbest.

[Lance_Uppercut]

of course in pacland. but in esb? most pinoys here knows pac's limitations and are quite reasonable. some just try to depend him when some idiots here tends to be racist.
You need to read some of johnco, pacdbest, or domngo's posts.

[KO Boxing]

of course in pacland. but in esb? most pinoys here knows pac's limitations and are quite reasonable.
:yikes :scaredas:

I know the discussions I've been in with them, and read of them, race has NEVER been an issue. The only thing they defend is their ridiculously irrational claims.

[puga_ni_nana]

You need to read some of johnco, poacdbest, or domngo's posts.

yeah i know. but if you consider their history here, you will understand why they act that way. i think they were ridiculed the first time they predicted that pac will ko barrera and morales back then.

now that pacquiao is more established now, some insane posters here are pitting pacquiao to bigger opponents when we all know that he started as a flyweight.

[Lance_Uppercut]

yeah i know. but if you consider their history here, you will understand why they act that way. i think they were ridiculed the first time they predicted that pac will ko barrera and morales back then.

now that pacquiao is more established now, some insane posters here are pitting pacquiao to bigger opponents when we all know that he started as a flyweight.

That has nothing to do with the crap they post. They still say some of the dumbest shit.

[PacDbest]

You need to read some of johnco, pacdbest, or domngo's posts.

You have to read mine coz my post are my Masterpiece. I believe in what I write and I've proven this by my Donaire-Darchinyan Prediction.

My claim in the past are that Pac is a Phenomenon, That he is the one saving Boxing, That Boxing got a boost after Pac TKOed Barrera, That Pac will KO Morales. This are all true now.

Recently I said Donaire will School Darchinyan, That Pinoy will win the World cup 5-1(I was wrong with bautista but I acknowledge he has a Suspect Chin).

I still believe that Pac will be an ATG, Pac will unseat PBF at the P4P crown, Pac-PBF will happen & he will beat PBF.

I don't know who are the Klits or Calzaghe fans here coz I don't care much about those fighters. All I care is Pac & the only one Challenging him to the top is Floyd. So I voted for Floyd fans coz they still stick to their Guy eventhou he acts like an ass, Fights like a Roadrunner, avoid risky opponents, and talks a lot of Trash but didn't do the walks.

[yesihavearm]

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[Toopretty]

Oh please. You're so full of shit. He lost a close decision to a 6'2 162 lb welterweight on his way up. So what.

His career ain't over. When it is then we can talk.

I see you are bleeding at your dome piece. The point is that margarito fuck boys claimed he was the most feared man in boxing...And Williams comes out of nowhere and slaps his ass up and outoworks him making him look as ordinary as most boxing smart people already know. He is a ABC, 123 fighter. Nothing special. Just chin stamina and heart. Thats all.:good

[Toopretty]

You have to read mine coz my post are my Masterpiece. I believe in what I write and I've proven this by my Donaire-Darchinyan Prediction.

My claim in the past are that Pac is a Phenomenon, That he is the one saving Boxing, That Boxing got a boost after Pac TKOed Barrera, That Pac will KO Morales. This are all true now.

Recently I said Donaire will School Darchinyan, That Pinoy will win the World cup 5-1(I was wrong with bautista but I acknowledge he has a Suspect Chin).

I still believe that Pac will be an ATG, Pac will unseat PBF at the P4P crown, Pac-PBF will happen & he will beat PBF.
:lol:
I don't know who are the Klits or Calzaghe fans here coz I don't care much about those fighters. All I care is Pac & the only one Challenging him to the top is Floyd. So I voted for Floyd fans coz they still stick to their Guy eventhou he acts like an ass, Fights like a Roadrunner, avoid risky opponents, and talks a lot of Trash but didn't do the walks.
:think:think:think:think:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:naughty:naughty:naughty:naughty:nonono:nonono

[Relentless]

I see you are bleeding at your dome piece. The point is that margarito fuck boys claimed he was the most feared man in boxing...And Williams comes out of nowhere and slaps his ass up and outoworks him making him look as ordinary as most boxing smart people already know. He is a ABC, 123 fighter. Nothing special. Just chin stamina and heart. Thats all.:good

well alot of people did avoid margarito, he was a tough fighter with little reward, paul williams was his mandatory, he fought him and lost a close decision, he could have NOT fought williams if he wanted to, he could have gotten a good payday against cotto.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I see you are bleeding at your dome piece. The point is that margarito fuck boys claimed he was the most feared man in boxing...And Williams comes out of nowhere and slaps his ass up and outoworks him making him look as ordinary as most boxing smart people already know. He is a ABC, 123 fighter. Nothing special. Just chin stamina and heart. Thats all.:good

What bullshit. Which Margarito fans claimed he was the most feared? :patsch It's not his fault he made Floyd look like a chump rejecting 6-8 MILLION dollars for a night of supposedly easy work.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I dont think so, but I do know you want the Iron Sheik to put a baby in your man uterus, there Wrestling Boy.

You obviously know more about pro wrestling then you do boxing. You're in the wrong board bitch..

[Lance_Uppercut]

And you need to go back to jacking off to Simpson's cartoons.

You need to STOP jacking off to the Ultimate Warrior and your master, Oscar de la hoya.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Are you upset because Germany cannot come up with a champion?

He's just stating the truth. You're the BIGGEST DLH nuthugger on the boards. You love to talk about him and bring attention to him. You're like his PR man, making sure he's getting attention. You're probably on his payroll you fuckin puppet.

[Amsterdam]

Louis showed Germany what he thought about the so called Superiority of the Third Reich, and it remains true today. Jermain Taylor will destroy Sturm.

Yes, but Sturm is shaky chinned fucking garbage with no punching power and highly overrated boxing skills. Taylor will not even be around after Pavlik blows him out, Abraham would also KO him.

Sturm is not even in the picture.